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Gone Gonzo
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Funny how every time a new generation comes a long the kids love it but the parents sit back and say 'Whats is this crap you kids are listening too? Back in my day we had REAL music!'

It happened with Rock'n'Roll, punk, heavy metal, rap, pop, grunge and so on.

Infamous Scribbler
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speedcoreXdandy:

House25:

Arachon:

MrBrightside919:

Emo killed Punk so it deserves to die.

I'm sorry to use a tired old cliché, but Punk is not dead >:|

Sure, it ain't as mainstream as it was during... say the '77 era, but it's still alive and kicking, you just need to know where to look...

Are The Dead Kennedys still making albums?

They were an awesome punk band.

I don't know if they're still making albums but they're definitely still touring.

Whilst the "Dead Kennedys" still tour, they're really not the same band anylonger, they kicked their lead singer (Jello Biafra) after the first breakup, and has since "sold out" to the extreme, employing lawsuits (the lawsuit concerned the fact that the "new" kennedys wanted to use the "Holiday in Cambodia" song for a Levi's commercial, a company known to use sweatshop labor) and signig to huge corporate labels (including Coca-Cola), completley going against everything that the "original" Dead Kennedys stood for.

Very sad story, they used to make such awesome music, perfect lyrics, awesome message... R.I.P

Beat Writer
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Joined: 3 Dec 2008

Just so you know I'm not racist, but i can tell you what, Rap and Hip Hop and helping any Civil Rights movements. I just hate Rap and what it does to people.

Muckraker
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Some bands I think have a similar sound to "classic rock":

Queens Of The Stone Age - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5ivZ-4DmPY
The Strokes - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFSYf-sgBIw
Arctic Monkeys - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30w8DyEJ__0
Jet - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7HkXI70t88&feature=related

That's pretty much what immediately comes to mind. Those might not be the best songs by each band, but if you browse around you should find plenty of good stuff by all of them. You might've even heard of them all, no idea.

Now, if you just want to broaden your horizons a little...

Flobots - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuK2A1ZqoWs
Deltron 3030 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdur7odHUfE&feature=related
K-Os - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6VrgPMLsiE
Psyche Origami - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFwoewkV9Cw

But yeah, I don't really like a lot of new music either. None of the bands I listed are newer than 4 or 5 years.

Press Junketeer
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Eggo:

You rockists never get old.

It's probably because we like rock. Pretentiousness is unbecoming, my friend.

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Kikosemmek:

Eggo:

You rockists never get old.

It's probably because we like rock. Pretentiousness is unbecoming, my friend.

I (and plenty of people out there) like rock and aren't rockists. Is your world shattered now?

Infamous Scribbler
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What about Ween? They've been around since the 80s and they're still going, they're one of my favourite bands by far.
As for rap, what's wrong with Public Enemy, NWA or Run DMC?

Press Junketeer
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Eggo:

I (and plenty of people out there) like rock and aren't rockists. Is your world shattered now?

What is a rockist, then? (it's dented irreparably)

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To be honest, it's a term I've never heard before, so let me lay out a bit of explanation:

If a musician really likes some music, I believe it will variably influence his/her output. This makes most genres not as dead as people like to think. You should check out Wolfmother if you think classic rock is dead. I'd point you toward Immortal Technique and The Roots for some hip-hop which is largely out of he mainstream, and Gogol Bordello's still rocking out in the spirit of punk. You could respond that these bands are shit, but that wouldn't really contribute to the argument since it's just a subjective statement.

The argument is that something so wide-reaching as a music genre will live on in one way or another. The fact that the 60's, 70's and 80's are mere decades away makes it way to early for me to say anything about the aforementioned genres claiming that they're completely gone.

Not many people listen to classical music anymore. Saying that it's dead is just as ludicrous.

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Kikosemmek:

Eggo:

I (and plenty of people out there) like rock and aren't rockists. Is your world shattered now?

What is a rockist, then? (it's dented irreparably)

http://tinyurl.com/7qx645

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Eggo:

http://tinyurl.com/7qx645

Ah, ok. I'm not one either. We're good.

Excuse me. I assumed a rockist is someone who merely holds rock as a favourite genre.

However, it is still a matter of taste to say that at some point, people got music right and then never again. I know many who would say the same of classical music, though it is gone from the mainstream of today, relegated to radio and film scores. I am one to say that the LA Philharmonic is the best thing I've ever seen in terms of musicianship. I won't say that I'm a 'classicist.' Everything changes.

I also won't give people shit for liking something that I don't. Tone down the aggression.

Pulitzer Laureate
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Mmm, Say Anything has been, in my opinion, the greatest Alt. Rock band in at least 6 years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-ld9EMrbtA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxnFz0GsDfM

MrBrightside919:
Emo is the herpies of the music industry. Everytime I hear one of those emo songs I just wanna smack someone. Seriously, i've NEVER heard of a bad with such a stupid name as some of those emo bands. Hell, i've never heard of MANY of those bands that fall under the genre.

Emo killed Punk so it deserves to die.

I swear i'm going to lose my head if another band names themselves something like "Say Anything".

Once again, South Park said it best in the last episode of the latest season. Those vampire kids are not goth or dark in any way AND neither is Emo music.

Oh my god, I almost died. Someone who listens to The Killers is saying Say Anything is emo. bahahahahahaha The Killers are true punk, huh bro?

Now I've seen it all, I can go in peace.

For the record, listen to anything pre-In Defense of the Genre (specifically Baseball) and you will find SA is one of the most punk bands that ever lived.

Max Bemis is God.

On the Record
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Classic Rock-like that isn't Classic Rock?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkJ2ru68Cx8&feature=channel_page
Ludo, Save Our City.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKwQKqQ8MMY&feature=channel_page
Northern Kings. You might like them.

Gone Gonzo
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Hmmm, well, some songs by my favorite band, Clutch, I suppose could be considered kind of "classic rock"-sounding. Especially their later stuff, albums like Robot Hive/Exodus and From Beale Street to Oblivion. Here are songs you might like -

The Incomparable Mr. Flannery

Burning Beard

Electric Worry

Opossum Minister

And they're right up there when it comes to meaning and lyrical integrity. All the lyrics for their songs are listed on their website (http://pro-rock.com/v6/main.html). I don't pretend to understand it all, but just take a look.

Beat Writer
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Thanks, BenMan, the sound great, I'll look into getting some albums of theres

Gone Gonzo
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Arachon:

MrBrightside919:

Emo killed Punk so it deserves to die.

I'm sorry to use a tired old cliché, but Punk is not dead >:|

Sure, it ain't as mainstream as it was during... say the '77 era, but it's still alive and kicking, you just need to know where to look...

The real question is...do I want to find it?

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Kikosemmek:
Tone down the aggression.

What an apt statement to make in a thread like this!

Infamous Scribbler
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MrBrightside919:

The real question is...do I want to find it?

But of course you do... But you might want to cover your nose first...

Beat Writer
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Joined: 3 Dec 2008

Arachon:

MrBrightside919:

The real question is...do I want to find it?

But of course you do... But you might want to cover your nose first...

And when do you find it, who says you're gonna like it?

Like I said earlier, the 60's 70's and 80's are over. And that SUCKS.

Beat Writer
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Joined: 3 Dec 2008

I recently heard a band Apocalyptica, but i can't seem to find any albums or anything like it.

I don't know how to describe it,but does anyone know any bands like Apocalyptica or the Trans Siberian Orchestra? Bands that take Classical and put in a very modern spin.

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They use orchestral instruments to play covers of crappy rock and metal songs. It's not classical in any sense of the word.

Gone Gonzo
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MrBrightside919:
Emo is the herpies of the music industry. Everytime I hear one of those emo songs I just wanna smack someone. Seriously, i've NEVER heard of a bad with such a stupid name as some of those emo bands. Hell, i've never heard of MANY of those bands that fall under the genre.

Emo killed Punk so it deserves to die.

I swear i'm going to lose my head if another band names themselves something like "Say Anything".

Once again, South Park said it best in the last episode of the latest season. Those vampire kids are not goth or dark in any way AND neither is Emo music.

Agreed. I'll give you Emo kids something to cry about!

Go for the Voodoo Glow Skulls, and Fugazi. You'll enjoy those bands!

Gone Gonzo
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there's this band called state radio that deserve more recognition than they have now. it's mostly reggae and punk, but it's good and well worth a listen.

Pulitzer Laureate
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JaguarWong:
Broaden your fucking horizons.

Hang on, what if he just doesn't like rap? I only listen to one or two genres of metal, not because i have narrow taste, but because it's the only music i like. I can't help it, i've tried to 'broaden my horizons', but i don't like anything else. I hate it when people say stuff like this, people can't help what music they like, they can't force themselves to like other music.

Eggo:
They use orchestral instruments to play covers of crappy rock and metal songs. It's not classical in any sense of the word.

That's not entirely true. They started just doing metallica covers, but they right loads of their own stuff now. Listen to their albums 'Cult' and 'Worlds Collide'.

Beat Writer
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Rusty Bucket:

JaguarWong:
Broaden your fucking horizons.

Hang on, what if he just doesn't like rap? I only listen to one or two genres of metal, not because i have narrow taste, but because it's the only music i like. I can't help it, i've tried to 'broaden my horizons', but i don't like anything else. I hate it when people say stuff like this, people can't help what music they like, they can't force themselves to like other music.

Exactly, and I live in Downtown Chicago, so it couldn't any more forced on than it already is, and I refuse to give in to that "Gansta" bull shit.

Gone Gonzo
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House25:
Anything that can hold a guitar is in, even country can pass, but now I'm currently listening to Linkin Park, Dave Matthews, Fall Out Boy, Panic at the Disco, and a tiny bit of Avenged Sevenfold.

So I guess I'll call it a plethora

The way you complain about the music being put out now, then the music you say you listen to... I think you need to broaden your horizons unfortunately.
Go last.fm and sign up, it will introduce yourself to new music.
Once you do, add me (my last.fm profile is on my profile here) and I will more than happily introduce you to a shit load of new artists you will never heave heard of.

Beat Writer
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new_age_reject:

House25:
Anything that can hold a guitar is in, even country can pass, but now I'm currently listening to Linkin Park, Dave Matthews, Fall Out Boy, Panic at the Disco, and a tiny bit of Avenged Sevenfold.

So I guess I'll call it a plethora

The way you complain about the music being put out now, then the music you say you listen to... I think you need to broaden your horizons unfortunately.
Go last.fm and sign up, it will introduce yourself to new music.
Once you do, add me (my last.fm profile is on my profile here) and I will more than happily introduce you to a shit load of new artists you will never heave heard of.

I'm going to start recommending everyone to Last.fm

I listened for 20 minutes, found 4 new bands that sound great and 5 or 6 songs I've never heard from bands I already like.

Copy Clerk
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Joined: 4 Dec 2008

A wise man once told me "You can't spell Crap without Rap." but serously, what can you do than ignore it? Even though I absoultly hate Rap, there are a lot of people who do like it and are not going to stop liking it because you hate it...

Beat Writer
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I'm not trying to start a revolution against rap. It's just my opinion, and no matter how vulgar or obtuse, I'm entitled to it.

Press Junketeer
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I love 80s music. When pop & rap were all the rage in 1998 & the only thing a singer needed was looks & zero talent, I started listening to music from other countries, partly because I hate love songs & that's pretty much all anyone sings about.

I like rock & techno from Japan, Korea, Russia, Romania, Sweeden, & to a lesser degree, some German Metal, Mexican Mariachi, & Jamaican Reggae (can't understand a word they say). The UK has good techno, as long as they don't sing in it (okey, so that makes it trance). & back in the 90s, Korea had GOOD hip-hop & pop, but that went bye-bye in 2001. I miss Synthpop! Bring it back! ;_;

Rap is not music to me because there is no actual singing. If they were singing, it would be hip-hop. Hip-Hop is music & Rap isn't. Don't care for Country either.

Gone Gonzo
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House25:

new_age_reject:

House25:
Anything that can hold a guitar is in, even country can pass, but now I'm currently listening to Linkin Park, Dave Matthews, Fall Out Boy, Panic at the Disco, and a tiny bit of Avenged Sevenfold.

So I guess I'll call it a plethora

The way you complain about the music being put out now, then the music you say you listen to... I think you need to broaden your horizons unfortunately.
Go last.fm and sign up, it will introduce yourself to new music.
Once you do, add me (my last.fm profile is on my profile here) and I will more than happily introduce you to a shit load of new artists you will never heave heard of.

I'm going to start recommending everyone to Last.fm

I listened for 20 minutes, found 4 new bands that sound great and 5 or 6 songs I've never heard from bands I already like.

Deffo mate, it's the greatest place for expanding what you listen to.

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JaguarWong:

House25:
Rap is the Herpes of the music world

Hey, everyone has the right to an opinion.

Unfortunately, it's opinions like this that make people like me question the wisdom of rights like those.

Broaden your fucking horizons.

QFT. I love certain Rap music (Gangsta Rap like Mack 10, XZibit, and anything similar to Tupac) but can't shit like Soldiaboy or whatever his fucking name is. (THAT is not rap. That is Shit. Just like Britney Spears is Shit.)

Personally, my favorite band of all time (Foreigner) has a bunch of CDs but can't release new music because their lead singer had throat cancer. No offense, but his voice was WAAAAAAY better than anyone from Journey, AC/DC, Guns 'n Roses, Metallica, or anyone else. And I like those other bands. Modern rock sounds like guys just slamming their fingers into random strings at a set time. Just never got into it, but I don't call it shit. Pop music on the other hand, is an unmitigated wasteland of shit and American Idol rejects spewing the same thing over and again. IT SUCKS. And again, their are exceptions. Hell, I have Pocket Full of Sunshine by Natasha Bedingfield on my hard drive. But yes, I find your opinion uneducated and uninformed. Please Mature your tastes.

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Gone Gonzo
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JaguarWong:

House25:
Rap is the Herpes of the music world

Hey, everyone has the right to an opinion.

Unfortunately, it's opinions like this that make people like me question the wisdom of rights like those.

Broaden your fucking horizons.

Oh leave him be, well just take him behind the barn and put him out of his misery befor it gets too bad.

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Muckraker
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JaguarWong:

House25:
Rap is the Herpes of the music world

Hey, everyone has the right to an opinion.

Unfortunately, it's opinions like this that make people like me question the wisdom of rights like those.

Broaden your fucking horizons.

I personally think there's gold and there's shit in every genre of music, therefore i agree that the writer of the OP should "Broaden your fucking horizons".

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I demand listening to the music I'm about to put on my (brand new) Zune:
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