The other day a friend told me that there were heavy rumors going around about Eddie Murphy as the Riddler for the next installment of batman, personally im on the fence about this cause i would opt for a darker menaceing villian(s) (can't really think of examples at the moment) Anyways the purpose of this is mainly for any of what the title of the thread says and this is my first post so if there is another like it I didnt see it sorry and yes my grammar sucks sorry about that as well.

Can the riddler talk to animals now? I think Jim Carry would make a good riddler (agian) if he can be serious for more then two seconds.

First of all, if your friends was using the old "I heard a rumour" bit to voice his own opinion, please, pleeaasse tell him he has terrible taste.

If they do end up making another Bat film I would like them to use villains who have yet to appear in films like Deadshot, a suicidal assassin for hire.

If they do end up using the Riddler I would like him to be portrayed by Casey Affleck and more of a sub rosa type character in comparison to the Joker. A guy whose identity Bats has to figure out with his detective skills.

No Angelina Jolie. She's a great actress but she doesn't have to be anywhere near the Nolan films.

I so blindly want to believe that Christopher Nolan's Batman didn't jump the shark (a phrase I've used twice this evening) with The Dark Knight, but with the HUGE response it got, it's going to be a heavily criticized movie none the less.

I want penguin back. If not then I like the idea of using some of the less known villains, it makes it more interesting as they can work a bit more with how the character works, and there's so many to choose from that you could come up with so many different scenarios for each, then work with the best one which I think could really help them make a great movie.

I've got a Riddler AND a Penguin rumor. Apparently Johnny Depp will be the Riddler and Philipp Seymour Hoffman will be the Penguin.

EDIT: That's not my opinion but an actual rumor.

I want to see Bane, Black Mask, and Clayface, personally.

4thegreatergood:
I've got a Riddler AND a Penguin rumor. Apparently Johnny Depp will be the Riddler and Philipp Seymour Hoffman will be the Penguin.

That actually sounds really good, interesting to see if Depp could do it correctly, and I think P.S.H. would make a pretty good penguin now that you mention it.

Indigo_Dingo:
My thoughts are thus - The Joker dies, leaving behind his beaten love interest/hooker 9bear with me). She's devoted to him to an unbelievable degree, and sets out to avenge him - So we have a psychotic Harley Quinn pursuing Batman with a single mindedness that outdoes even his own. We have the Batman being fought by someone with no ends other than his own destruction.

Well I think it would be cool.

Me too. She's the only villain sidekick (that I know of) in Batman.

I think they will never top The Dark Knight in terms of comic to film.
They shouldn't even try to make another Batman film.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. The only villian possible for this installment is Bane. Bats needs to go down, and the only person, EVER, who's been able to take him down for any decent amount of time is Bane.

I really hope that they don't use Eddie Murphy as The Riddler, as he would probably ruin it. The other 2 Batman movies were pretty dark, so Eddie Murphy would ruin the entire Christopher Nolan Series. I think a serious Riddler would be interesting.

I can tell you who it won't be, Mr Freeze(unless it becomes some guy that puts his victims into freezers after impailing them with an ice-pic) or clayface(unless its just some ugly ass guy)

RedDiablo:
I really hope that they don't use Eddie Murphy as The Riddler, as he would probably ruin it. The other 2 Batman movies were pretty dark, so Eddie Murphy would ruin the entire Christopher Nolan Series. I think a serious Riddler would be interesting.

They won't. That rumor originated from a joke article.

mattttherman3:
I can tell you who it won't be, Mr Freeze(unless it becomes some guy that puts his victims into freezers after impailing them with an ice-pic) or clayface(unless its just some ugly ass guy)

Yay to Mr. Freeze!

But seriously, I think The Riddler might be a good choice as a villain. They might want to adapt him into the style of the last two Batman films, though. He's depicted a wee bit cartoony in.. Uhm.. Batman and Robin was it?

new_age_reject:
I think they will never top The Dark Knight in terms of comic to film.
They shouldn't even try to make another Batman film.

I'm just wondering why the thread continued after this: There is no possible way that they can ever up TDK.

RedDiablo:
I really hope that they don't use Eddie Murphy as The Riddler, as he would probably ruin it. The other 2 Batman movies were pretty dark, so Eddie Murphy would ruin the entire Christopher Nolan Series.

Hey, isn't that what everyone originally said about Heath Ledger?

Anyways, I think Bane would be a cool villain to see in the next film. The set up could work pretty well. All of Gotham's after Batman now. He's public enemy number 1, and he's going to be unleashing some heavy duty punishment on the gangsters of the city. The mob need to hire someone with some serious balls to make sure that Bats goes down and stays down. Bane's come closer than anyone to doing this. He's got a solid backstory, fan-appeal, he's more than a match for Batman both physically and intellectually, and he can be made to work in the more realistic setting that Nolan's gone for.

Part of me would also love to see Superman in the next film, just so that Christian Bale can go all 'The Dark Knight Returns' on his arse.

BudZer:

new_age_reject:
I think they will never top The Dark Knight in terms of comic to film.
They shouldn't even try to make another Batman film.

I'm just wondering why the thread continued after this: There is no possible way that they can ever up TDK.

They could. They just have to adapt Frank Miller's 'The Dark Knight Returns'. That would be all kinds of awesome.

Rachael is Catwoman and Eddie Murphy will play the Riddler. Those are my predictions.

Philipp Seymour Hoffman as the Penguin has been around for quite a while, I think he was even approached about it if I'm not wrong. But Nolan has stated that it will be hard to make the Penguin work in the darker, more realistic Batman universe that they try to set up. I would love to see it though, would be friggin sweet, and I don't think it's too far fetched either, just get rid of his penguins with guns or whatever ^^

The portrayal of the Joker by Heath Ledger was amazing, and i think it'll be near on impossible to top a villain like that. And if they don't, or come close, or almost top it but not quite then all the critics will say is 'not as good as TDK'. They probably will make another one to make more money, but it'll have to be seriously good.

And as for the villain.. Spiderman. Mary-Jane was accidentally sent to a human research facility by Bruce Wayne and killed by Marcus Fenix. So Peter Parker sets out for revenge against the love of his life.

or something..

jim_doki:
I've said it before and I'll say it again. The only villian possible for this installment is Bane. Bats needs to go down, and the only person, EVER, who's been able to take him down for any decent amount of time is Bane.

But we already had Bane (or somebody who looks like him) as a villain. I want The Phantasm as a live action villain. I know he was in a cartoon movie but not many people know it.

Edit: Eddie Murphy as The Riddler? Are those guys crazy? Jim Carrey was bad enough.

Vlane:

jim_doki:
I've said it before and I'll say it again. The only villian possible for this installment is Bane. Bats needs to go down, and the only person, EVER, who's been able to take him down for any decent amount of time is Bane.

But we already had Bane (or somebody who looks like him) as a villain. I want The Phantasm as a live action villain. I know he was in a cartoon movie but not many people know it.

Edit: Eddie Murphy as The Riddler? Are those guys crazy? Jim Carrey was bad enough.

we didn't have Bane, we had Ivy Henchman in a Mask. He doesn't count

I personally think they should use a lesser known villain, like Bane or someone very obscore and sinister. People looking for poison and clayface and so on, you've got no chance. Christopher Nolan's batman is set in a very real world, not a world of all american aliens and teenagers in tights. Who ever it will be will be protrayed as a very real character.

We can dispell the Penguin idea from out heads because Christain Bale, I don't know if I have my facts straight SUE ME! But he said if their doing Penguin hes out, since the last penguin did such a good job.

I personally think Scarecrow needs to come back in the third and have his ass handed to him again. Another Camo

But Villians that should be in a Batman movie:
Harley Quinn
SCARFACE AND THE VENTRILOQUIST
Mad Hatter
Onomoepia
Julian day i.e. The Calendar man
KILLER CROC
Black Mask
Batzarro(Now im just f***ing with yah sorry lol)

BudZer:

new_age_reject:
I think they will never top The Dark Knight in terms of comic to film.
They shouldn't even try to make another Batman film.

I'm just wondering why the thread continued after this: There is no possible way that they can ever up TDK.

It could actually be quite possible since they are doing "realistic" Batman, it would fit if they did all their movies, and then moved the last one to be TDK.

DO NOT believe any rumors going around about the next batman movie at all. Nolan has publicly sated MANY times that he is the final word on the next movie and he has decided absolutely NOTHING. All your rumors are WRONG.

Speculation is fun, but rumors suck monkey balls.

Personally I want Bane to be the next Batman villain. The "Dark Knight Falls" story idea would kick some serious ass. Bane VS Batman would make for a very good movie experience.

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They won't. That rumor originated from a joke article.[/quote]
thank you for clearing that up my buddy sounded like he heard it from a creditable source and after reading some of the feed back depp i think would make an interesting riddler but i'd really like to see bane or deadshot or any villian that hasn't been in previous (live action)flics

Indigo_Dingo:

Marv21:

But Villians that should be in a Batman movie:
Harley Quinn
SCARFACE AND THE VENTRILOQUIST
Mad Hatter
Onomoepia
Julian day i.e. The Calendar man
KILLER CROC
Black Mask
Batzarro(Now im just f***ing with yah sorry lol)

Thats ignoring why they changed the Jokers origin to just getting his face carved instead of being bleached, and why they changed the fear gas from just a chemical cocktail to a hallucenogen - they are trying to ground these things in reality. In reality, a criminal organisation is not going to listen to a man who co-ordinates his crimes by the date, a guy who just wears an ebony mask on his face, or a guy who speaks through his puppet. And Killer Croc....same reason as Man-Bat - it strains the ideal of reality.

For those of you who think I'm looking into it too much, why else would they have bothered to show where he gets his gadgets and where he was trained? They needed to make the character into someone believable.

Valid viewpoint, however you point they are making is why a criminal organization would bother with the mentally Ill. Case in point Joker, a criminal organization would not take him Seriously(lol) unless he had some leeway or form of gaining their respect...er sort of.

So the same point stands for the Joker as say The Calendar man, the calendar man would fit perfactly, More so perfactly he has an obession with the calendar and it makes sense that this man is in reality. If you're saying that Black Mask couldn't become a mob man, then Hell, the joker would'nt even be in crime.

You do have a point but if they will listen to a man who scarred his face up, I can damn well bet they will listen to a man who wears an ebony mask, and a man who talks through a puppet(as long as he got cash to pay you with).

But we can reach commonground that the Mad Hatter could fit perfactly in this world of "Reality".

new_age_reject:
I think they will never top The Dark Knight in terms of comic to film.
They shouldn't even try to make another Batman film.

That is actually another rumor going around. Christopher Nolan doesn't want to disappoint by making a film that can't live up to the Dark Knight's standards. It would be very difficult to craft another masterpiece again, since what else is there? Once you do a dark psychological thriller you can't go back without repercussions. So while I hope with all my heart that they can make another one that would be better than the Dark Knight I agree with you.