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Gone Gonzo
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Recently I have started sampling different types of music and tried to listen to a variety of different bands

The one thing though I have found with every single genre is there so much hatred within/towards it. Music is supposed to be an expression of emotions, not just hatred. So this lead me to think why is hatred the most common thing expressed in music.
I would like to hear some opinions why hatred has made so many songs and why there's so much hatred towards songs.

Note: Can we keep this flame free?

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It's because the biggest market for consuming music are young people who are almost always insecure, frustrated, and/or angry about themselves and others.

On the Record
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Eh... wut?

There will always be hatred against different music genres. It's just the way it is. What I don't get is why people make fun of 'emo' music.

Note: Can we keep this flame free?

No we can't. It's not gonna happen.

EDIT:
That's what he meant. Oh.

Infamous Scribbler
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I only find this in the steaming fetid pile of dung that is Metal.

All other genres are cool.

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Hard question to answear. I think why its so much hatred WITHIN music is becuse people are drooling after drama, and they simply give it to them by writing songs about cutting themselves or others throats off.
Why theres to much hatred TOWARDS music... Well, theres many explanations to why, for example, people may find for example hip-hop/RnB music videos and songs as disturbing becuse most songs/videos are including sex, drugs and overhorny girls with big tits(last thing is atleast in most videos).

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Beat Writer
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Eggo:
It's because the biggest market for consuming music are young people who are almost always insecure, frustrated, and/or angry about themselves and others.

Pretty much this. Not only young people, but a lot of people in general. Music tends to be seen as an emotional outlet for most artists, a way for them to let off some steam and get some suffering off their chests. In turn, the consumer's looking for empowerment, and they tend to find that in songs or music they relate to. Or, if not necessarily songs to relate to, then at least songs that let them know that there are other people who are having it worse.

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Very true, but the biggest market is young people :]

Paperboy
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Eggo, I think you've got it. Most of the hatred i've seen in music is in music marketed to young people. There onbious exceptions but I think that the lyrics are aimed to attempt to "speak" to young people.

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J-Man:
I only find this in the steaming fetid pile of dung that is Metal.

All other genres are cool.

Take that back! You take that back, man! Metal is not I repeat NOT a steaming pile of dung. You..you.. your face!

sorry:(

Paperboy
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Yes and no on the young people thing. After all, there's always that quote: "it's not that I'm old, your music really does suck".

Music is a cultural expression, which seems like it's going to tend to divide people into tribes by gender, or by class, or by age, or some combination of the above (or other factors), probably because people like finding similar people and it seems to be human nature to fear and try to be separate from the unknown/"others".

It's easy to say "damn kids and their insecure squabbling", but I think there's probably more to it than that. Humans like communities - look how we've built and used the internet - so my guess would be it's more of a general identification/tribe/human nature thing than just simply being a matter of music marketed to the young.

If nothing else, I'm pretty sure Wayne Newton, Bing Crosby, Perry Como et al weren't particularly shooting for the 18-24 demographic.

Edit: genre, gender, same thing, right?

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Mr. Squirrel:

J-Man:
I only find this in the steaming fetid pile of dung that is Metal.

All other genres are cool.

Take that back! You take that back, man! Metal is not I repeat NOT a steaming pile of dung. You..you.. your face!

sorry:(

Ok, I accept your apology. I just don't see the appeal of having a teenager with too many peircings/middle-aged man trying to be a teenager with too many peircings screaming in my ear while having a seizure on a guitar.

Press Junketeer
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J-Man:

Mr. Squirrel:

J-Man:
I only find this in the steaming fetid pile of dung that is Metal.

All other genres are cool.

Take that back! You take that back, man! Metal is not I repeat NOT a steaming pile of dung. You..you.. your face!

sorry:(

Ok, I accept your apology. I just don't see the appeal of having a teenager with too many peircings/middle-aged man trying to be a teenager with too many peircings screaming in my ear while having a seizure on a guitar.

OK, you're right about that though, don't want that myself too, but not all metal is like that.

Gone Gonzo
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Eggo:
It's because the biggest market for consuming music are young people who are almost always insecure, frustrated, and/or angry about themselves and others.

Sums it up, also i think because angry/angsty/hatefull lyrics are the easiest to write

Gone Gonzo
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J-Man:

Mr. Squirrel:

J-Man:
I only find this in the steaming fetid pile of dung that is Metal.

All other genres are cool.

Take that back! You take that back, man! Metal is not I repeat NOT a steaming pile of dung. You..you.. your face!

sorry:(

Ok, I accept your apology. I just don't see the appeal of having a teenager with too many peircings/middle-aged man trying to be a teenager with too many peircings screaming in my ear while having a seizure on a guitar.

What kind of shit metal have you listened to?

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Avida:

Eggo:
It's because the biggest market for consuming music are young people who are almost always insecure, frustrated, and/or angry about themselves and others.

Sums it up, also i think because angry/angsty/hatefull lyrics are the easiest to write

And also angry stuff is easy to play aswell, take for instance Stricken by Disturbed, which is piss easy to pay on the guitar

Copy Clerk
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I find it odd that for every style of music, there is a "elitist" bunch holding their noses high in the air, mostly mocking the "mainstream" fans...

And I like metal, anyone who doesn't should try it, until they die or like it.

Beat Writer
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These kids these days and their rock music. Music is usually the artists own impression on the world. So if an artists live alone in a basement and cuts himself, what do you think the music will be like? Of course, it could be that the song sells, which is all the record companies care about.

On the Record
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I only "hate" music when people force me to listen to it. Thougj... I don't like "hip hop culture" one bit, all these bloody wanksters can play in traffic.

Paperboy
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PedroSteckecilo:
I only "hate" music when people force me to listen to it. Thougj... I don't like "hip hop culture" one bit, all these bloody wanksters can play in traffic.

You mean you don't like Gangster culture. Hip Hop culture is different.

 
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