Well first off don't bloody flame each other alright.

I like Star Trek better, for the simple reason that it seems slightly more realistic, although Humanity would probably not be the head of a Federation of Planets, more like the aliens from Independance Day(movie). And at least Star Trek is taking a chance by going back in time, don't mess with the classics some will say, well what possible harm could that do? I really don't like the original series because of the fact that i grew up with The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, and Voyager, Enterprise was sweet(except that bloody opening credits music).

Star Wars is always the same, always always always, you look at the Empire under darth sideous and then you look at the republic from KOTOR, there is not that much of a difference here people, except for swords, because people will use a sword instead of a laser pistol. Plus theres the whole force thing, nice thought but it will never happen, same thing goes with light sabers. My opinion on remaking the original series: Wait until Lucas is dead, then go for it.

You are part of the rebel allience and a traitor!

Yeah I'm a Star Wars man, just for the Empire.

Star wars fan myself, if only because I liked Star Wars Episode 1 Racer so much.

Pohlkat:
Star wars fan myself, if only because I liked Star Wars Episode 1 Racer so much.

Wow, lol i hated that game, that game was BULL, Now Rougue Squadren, that was fun

1) only ever ends in fanboy flame warring
b) I know this because I've been most of these, that show up every two or so months, over and over again. you would know this two if you used the search button

Anyone who says Trek is a traitor to the Republic! That being said...LIGHTEN UP! It's "science FICTION". I like trek but it is nothing compared to the awesomeness that is starwars...

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Um, I'm going to throw out the apples to oranges argument here and be done with it.

Kukul:
Ok I wanted to say "please not this thread again" but I think I am genuinely curious how would someone defend such a piece of shit that Star Trek is. I couldn't stand a single episode. It's boring, it has no atmosphere, it has shitty actors and retarded plot. How could anyone possibly be a fan of such a dumb series, please enlighten me.

I am sorry but Patrick Stewart could kick Mark Hamills arse, how do i know this? Patrick Stewart has been in more movies and can do voice overs other than Mark Hamill(only does himself and luke skywalker)

and by the way, the last thread of this on this website that i found(using the key words Star Trek vs Star Wars) was in august. I believe that Star Wars is better for gaming but I could see Star Trek happening in the distant future. Star Trek tends to make people think more rather than "use the force" for everything.

mattttherman3:
I am sorry but Patrick Stewart could kick Mark Hamills arse, how do i know this? Patrick Stewart has been in more movies and can do voice overs other than Mark Hamill(only does himself and luke skywalker)

That is where you are wrong. Mark Hamil also did the voice for The Joker in Batman the Animated Series (the best Joker ever). That alone makes him better than Stewart (in my opinion)

Anyway, I never liked Star Trek, and have always been a bit of a Star Wars fanboy.

rottenbutter:

mattttherman3:
I am sorry but Patrick Stewart could kick Mark Hamills arse, how do i know this? Patrick Stewart has been in more movies and can do voice overs other than Mark Hamill(only does himself and luke skywalker)

That is where you are wrong. Mark Hamil also did the voice for The Joker in Batman the Animated Series (the best Joker ever). That alone makes him better than Stewart (in my opinion)

Anyway, I never liked Star Trek, and have always been a bit of a Star Wars fanboy.

I never knew that he was The Joker. That's awesome. But Star Wars wins!. Think about it. Storm Trooper vs. Red Shirt. Who dies? The red shirt. They always die.

Gxas:
Um, I'm going to throw out the apples to oranges argument here and be done with it.

Thank you. Star Wars is action, Star Trek is drama.

Is it a crime to like 'em both equally?

If I have to pick which one's deeper, I'd have to go with Star Trek. The only real underlying theme of the Star Wars saga is Anakin's corruption and redemption. The great thing about Trek is that it deals with a lot of issues, and the characters are developed beyond Joseph Campbell archetypes.

EDIT: My personal favorite Star Trek series is TNG, because that's the one I grew up watching. The original series is just as deep most of the time, but it shows it's age...

PPS: I'm one of a handful of people who actually liked Episode III, bloated CGI fest though it may be...

mattttherman3:

I am sorry but Patrick Stewart could kick Mark Hamills arse, how do i know this? Patrick Stewart has been in more movies and can do voice overs other than Mark Hamill(only does himself and luke skywalker)

I know someone's already commented on this, but I just thought you should know that Mark Hamill's post-Star Wars career has been 99.9% voice acting. Don't believe me? Check out his resume: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000434/

EDIT: But yeah, Patrick Stewart kicks Mark Hamill's ass.

I've always been a huge fan of the original star trek series and I enjoyed the original 3 Star Wars. I found the newest three to be shallow and boring...except for the Yoda fight scenes.

I am looking forward to the new ST movie. It actually looks like what ST movies should have been from the start.

I'm gonna add a third option just to be snobby and say Dr. Who > Star Trek/Wars.

I like them both, but watching both the Star Wars movies and some Star Trek stuff again recently, I'd say I prefer Star Trek.

It's more credible, you can actually believe a lot of the stuff that's going on'there. First off, characters are actual characters with some depth to them, of which there isn't a single one on Star Wars.
Second, the makers of Star Trek actually give a rat's ass about the SCIENCE in Science Fiction - actually, they kind of put it there in the first place. Nevermind the techno bubble taking over in the more recent installations of the franchise (and the mind bending 60s-ness of the original show), next to Star Trek, Star Wars looks like the fantasy of a six-year-old made up on a rainy afternoon.

It does have its strengths, however. Star Wars has an extremely well done mythology, giving you goosebumps while watching in a way Star Trek never could - although it gave much of that away over the time in exchange for Ewoks, babbling idiots and an irrelevant "Trade Federation" with French accents to please the 6-year-old moron demographic.

That said, I recently discovered that it's impossible to watch even the original Star Wars movies with a straight face. The last time I did, i couldn't stop wondering when the plot holes would merge to a giant improbability black hole that would swallow up the Star Wars universe, my TV and pretty much everything with it.

So, Star Trek wins.

Star Wars, hands down! Although, my current gf would beg to differ...she's such a nerd! :)

Star Wars is absolutely NOT science fiction. It's fantasy, though Lucas seems to have tried to make it a little more sci-fi by explaining the Force with midichlorians (I can't believe I know how to spell that). Star Wars is all about mysticism and magic with some standard mythological archetypes thrown in. Don't get me wrong, I prefer SW to Trek any day, but I don't think it qualifies as sci-fi. Trek is at least sort of trying to say "this could be the future" but I get real tired of the aliens with different foreheads and nothing else.

Also, Patrick Stewart has done a lot of good work. Mark Hamill more often shows up to make a SW joke than anything else, though he's pretty cool in Avatar and Batman.

Nigh Invulnerable:
Star Wars is absolutely NOT science fiction. It's fantasy, though Lucas seems to have tried to make it a little more sci-fi by explaining the Force with midichlorians (I can't believe I know how to spell that). Star Wars is all about mysticism and magic with some standard mythological archetypes thrown in. Don't get me wrong, I prefer SW to Trek any day, but I don't think it qualifies as sci-fi. Trek is at least sort of trying to say "this could be the future" but I get real tired of the aliens with different foreheads and nothing else.

Star Wars is space opera. That's not hard s.f. but it's still regarded as science fiction. Think about Lensman, for example.

Star Trek is pretty much space opera, too. It avoids a few of the big space opera tropes (such as mega-huge "epic" scale, like interstellar governments that last thousands of years, or planets with trillions of people on them, or a two-billion-year-long psychic breeding program, or battles fought by ripping whole planets out of another dimension to hurl them at stuff), but it's still space opera at its core. Star Trek just dresses up the magic with more phlebotium (tachyons! chronatons! trilithium! baryon sweep!).

-- Alex

Star Wars. I find it far more interesting to watch intergalactic conflict than watch a group of people strive for intergalactic peace.

Star Wars FTW over Star Trek forever even with the stain of the newer ones.

As I grew older my tastes began to lean heavily towards Star Trek. The universe feels so much more natural and full of flavor, where Star Wars just seems cheap after a while. Even at its worst, Star Trek has never been truly embarrassing, unlike how George Lucas has essentially made a mockery of just about everything at this point.

I still enjoy Star Wars and Empire is still one of the best si-fi (or fantasy) films ever made, but man, nothing really compares to a good episode of Next Generation or even the original series. The scale it all is so much more impressive then some haphazard flashlight duel.

karmapolizei:
It's more credible, you can actually believe a lot of the stuff that's going on'there. First off, characters are actual characters with some depth to them, of which there isn't a single one on Star Wars.

Han Solo. He was just some ruffian caught up in something bigger than himself, and a huge part of Empire and even the end of Hope showed how we was growing as a character - and as a man - and learned to accept and embrace the bigger picture he was suddenly a part of. Also, there was that Leia babe to deal with.

There are more examples (Luke coming to terms with the Force and learning about Vader, the love triangle with Leia, etc) as well.

Granted, we're comparing apples to oranges here - Trek has a much easier time of this - by now, all the characters are set, defined and don't change, and as a TV series it has far more to work with.

The Original Trilogy, however, did amazing things with only about six hours character-wise.

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Star Trek Episode in a Nutshell:

Redshirt: Hey Captain, this anomalous thing is gonna destroy the entire universe.

Engineer: Hey Captain, I just made this thing out of scrap parts 30 minutes before because I thought we might need it. All you gotta do is have Data hit the little button at the exact nanosecond.

Data: My positronic brain can influence the tachyons just outside of the ship and create a temporal paradox. When we collide it with the anomalous thing, it should create a quantum time fluctuation dialation with the neutrinos technobabbly....

Captain: PUNCH. THAT. SHIT.

<Day is saved. End of Episode. Data plays with its cat.>

I think I just quoted most episodes verbatim. Star Trek is the king os pseudoscience. At least Star Wars knows the stuff is impossible and makes no attempt to explain it.

mattttherman3:
Well first off don't bloody flame each other alright.

I like Star Trek better, for the simple reason that it seems slightly more realistic, although Humanity would probably not be the head of a Federation of Planets, more like the aliens from Independance Day(movie). And at least Star Trek is taking a chance by going back in time, don't mess with the classics some will say, well what possible harm could that do? I really don't like the original series because of the fact that i grew up with The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, and Voyager, Enterprise was sweet(except that bloody opening credits music).

Star Wars is always the same, always always always, you look at the Empire under darth sideous and then you look at the republic from KOTOR, there is not that much of a difference here people, except for swords, because people will use a sword instead of a laser pistol. Plus theres the whole force thing, nice thought but it will never happen, same thing goes with light sabers. My opinion on remaking the original series: Wait until Lucas is dead, then go for it.

This is the Age old question. I guess I consider myself a little more of a Trekkie. I would have to agree with you that the characters in Star Trek are more Dynamic. It also seems more plausible although some things I think would take humanity much longer to develop, and how could something set in the past like Star Wars be so advanced? However there is one thing I have to give Star Wars and that is that they have more creative alien designs.

The original star wars are pretty much the greatest thing since God invented sex. But I think the writing in star trek is alot more intelligent and thoughtfull. plus star trek has continued to make decent stuff while the latest starwars films were like a reverse enema for my fanboy soul.

Firefly any day over both.

BrynThomas:
Firefly any day over both.

You may have something here......*cries over a dead show that RULED TV like it was it's bitch*

Star Wars. Though I pretend Episodes 1-3 don't exist.

Jared Rea:
Even at its worst, Star Trek has never been truly embarrassing, unlike how George Lucas has essentially made a mockery of just about everything at this point.

Oh, come now!

TOS gave us multiple planets with their own clones of the United States, American flags and all.

TNG gave us a warship/Loveboat, complete with an entertainment system that occasionally turns into a deathtrap or craps out sentient beings.

-- Alex

I don't belive they can really be compared. Star Trek is a prediction for the future while Star Wars is... well... ''in a galaxy far far away''. I almost agree with Nigh Invulnerable in that Star Wars is fantasy as aposed to science fiction. It's propablaly why is is superior as material for games than Star Trek (althougth elite force isn't bad). People seem compelled to compare them due to the obvious similarity between names. The fact is, they are both prime examples of what they are. They do a good job at what they attempt to do which is different for each.

Star Wars is ftw. Han and Chewy > anything in Trek. Also Storm Troopers have damage amplifying armour, which is genius.

Not Good:
I'm gonna add a third option just to be snobby and say Dr. Who > Star Trek/Wars.

You pretty much hit the nail on the head. Dr. Who is going to be more creative than either of these shows because they can do literally anything they can think of because the guy can go anywhere.

And if you stand the good doctor next to almost any character in either of these series they will look like cardboard cutouts.