BrynThomas:
Firefly any day over both.

Sadly Firefly didnt get more seasons *sob*

I also think star wars is action and trek is drama. But trek has more of a real world tone to it. and Wars has more of this action packed saga. I prefer wars over trek anyday but that cause I don't have the patience to watch trek its too slow. But also alot of our modern day technology is based off star trek ideas.

Star Wars, hands down. SW tells an epic story, the most epic ST gets ouside of the movies was Shatner. Though sadly I do have to agree with the earlier statement that RL Patrick Stuart would whip RL Mark Hamill hands down. In charachter though Jedi Master Luke Sywalker FTW.

And why does everyone have to bash Ep's 1-3? There was not a damn thing wrong with them.

Edit: Since the OP went ahead and pulled KOTOR into this, he went ahead and opened this up to include Expanded Universes too. Since I haven't read much ST I can't speak to it, but if he want's to complain the SW is always the same then may he (and all other naysayers) should try the SW universe post EP6. It just keeps getting even more awesome.

Trek minus Enterprise and the films.

As much as I like (nay, love) Star Wars the sheer quantity of Star Trek wins me over. Hundreds of 40 minute episodes compared to three 2 hours films.

It really is quantity for me because I rate them about equally in quality.

I'm a big fan of both of them. I would probably pick Star Trek though. I'm a big fan of TNG, DS9, and Voyager but I never got into Enterprise or the movies.

both starwars and startrek are being milked beyond what I consider good taste, no examples needed.

another vote for Dr. Who.

-Sigh-

I have a better battle of the sci-fi universes: 'Red Dwarf' Vs. 'Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy'.

Illesdan:
-Sigh-

I have a better battle of the sci-fi universes: 'Red Dwarf' Vs. 'Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy'.

Hmm the improbability drive vs the holly hop and the ability to travel back in time but not move.

so yeah back to the subject at hand, star wars has more action, unless you include all the star trek episodes combined then maybe not.

Who is scarier? The Sith or The Borg? I would rather face the sith any day, less of a risk to be assimalated.

Star Wars. Long live the empire!

this is like the Nerd war to end all nerd wars. been going on for decades. aside all that. I'm a star wars fan. I'm not going to blog why. I just am

Ace of Spades:
Star Wars. Long live the empire!

the empire was overthrown in return of the jedi

Not Good:
I'm gonna add a third option just to be snobby and say Dr. Who > Star Trek/Wars.

darn tootin

I'm a Trekkie myself tho, I grew up with TNG, DS9 and Voyager

mattttherman3:

Ace of Spades:
Star Wars. Long live the empire!

the empire was overthrown in return of the jedi

I know, it was a joke.

Honestly, I've heard the words Doctor Who, never seen it, no idea what it it aboot

mattttherman3:
Honestly, I've heard the words Doctor Who, never seen it, no idea what it it aboot

The doctor is the last of his species named the time lords. He travels through time and space saving the universe with his trusty companion from the monsters of the day; most commonly cybermen, daleks or the master. He travels in the TARDIS which is meant to camouflage with the surroundings but it broke and is permanently a police phone box, fortunately you can only get in with a key and did I mention that it is bigger on the inside?
The Doctor doesn't use weapons but saves the day with his wits, sonic screw drver an psychic paper.

It is the longest running sci-fi show of all time.

im a star wars fan

Why are people always comparing these two? It's pointless.

That being said, I like Star Trek more. I saw the original Star wars movies when I was a kid and liked them (especially Yoda), but never really became a fan.

Meh, Dr Who's just far too silly for me - can't take any of it seriously. Watched the Christmas episode; 'stay out of the shadows of they'll eat you!' 'oh no, the shadows are making a space suit attack us! Really slowly!' bah ;P

As to Trek vs Wars, both have their major failings.

I grew up on TNG, and then Voyager, and loved them both, but looking at them now the acting is pretty horrible, the situations have fairly predictable endings, and they pretty much always carry a message of personal improvement - war is bad, generosity is good, stand up to evil, if in doubt use the deflector array, etc. Voyager went a bit further if I remember right, with having to make some difficult decisions in the quest to get home, which was nice. Didn't seem much of Enterprise, but I liked the modern CGI.

In short, although Trek had some good persistent characters, occasional interesting situations, and long sub plot arcs (in a sort of Borg in the back ground kinda way...), the simplicity of the general moral decision and the common resorting to technobabble to save the day pissed me off a little. Unless the cgi was good, heh.

Wars I initially loved, back when I saw the first episode and all that. However, watching it again makes me realise just how thin the story really is, and just how bad the majority of the line delivery and writing was. The whole thing is just farcical outside of the battles and sections without dialogue. And even in the battles... well, Ewoks? Were they seriously just there for the cute factor? Did their slings seriously injure the troopers though their body armour? Bull. And then Episode 1, another excuse to throw a silly alien race up against the evil military force, but this time they weren't even cute, and there weren't any actors involved. What a cop out. Not impressed.

However, considering how poor the execution of the source material was, the Star Wars franchise has made some nice games - Rogue Squadron was awesome, I played Jedi Knight, I enjoyed Pod Racer (heh :p)

Summing it up, neither franchise is awesome, though I'm praying that the new Trek movie doesn't suck... really want to enjoy that. Both have had some good and bad games made from them - Star Trek Armada I & II, Elite Force I & II against Rogue Squadron series, Jedi Knight series, Force Unleashed to name some of the better ones (imo). Both's sciences rely on you not picking too closely at how they work, though Trek makes FAR more of an effort to at least put names to its brands of magic. Which you prefer depends entirely on personal preference, and can change over time, so picking a side is closed minded and petty, tbh. There's better sci-fis out there - Firefly for sheer awesome win, Red Dwarf and Hitchhiker's for comedy.

Alex_P:
Star Trek just dresses up the magic with more phlebotium (tachyons! chronatons! trilithium! baryon sweep!).

Bounce a graviton particle beam, off the main deflector dish,
That's the way we do things lad, we're making shit up as we wish
Your post reminded me of this song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2v6rXs5J9M
And I like both star trek and star wars equally, I even like Enterprise and Episode 3 (probably the only person in existence who does).
And I see the mention of Firefly and, awesome show that it was, raise you Farscape.

The Holy Inquisition of the God-Emperor of Mankind would like to speak with you.

All of you.

And by speak, I mean they're going to point the loud end of their Godwyn-Diaz pattern bolters at you.

And pull the trigger.

That is all.

Firefly was amazing /sob

why did it have to go so soon?

Crofty:

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And I see the mention of Firefly and, awesome show that it was, raise you Farscape.

Eeeeh, I'd say not - no other sci fi has an evil bad race that will rape you to death, eat your flesh, and sew your skin into their clothing... if you're very lucky, in that order.
Firefly had a perfect blend of humour, action and character development, set in a collection of worlds that we could see existing, populated by the sort of people you would expect to see eking out a hard life on a desert moon. It took the whole 'evil empire' thing Star Wars tried to do, but does it so much more maturely and intelligently. It had no aliens, so no silly foreheads. Lasers, plasma guns and all that sci-fi jazz were avoided largely, although all the ballistic weapons did have a strange warmup noise... now why would a revolver or a shotgun go *click* *bwwwwweeee*? Meh. Also, no FTL - journeys between planets take weeks or months - how's that for realism?

ImpStar Deuce > USS Anything.

Babylon 5 was far better than either though. I did love the X-Wing comic series from dark horse and michael stackpole's novels though. Great fix of space soapie after bab5 ended.

[Edit] Wicky32: I believe they signified some kind of recoil compensator activating. I vaguely recall whedon babbling something about it in an interview somewhere.

Or, instead of posting an argument on this thread, everyone could sit down and watch Babylon 5...?

Am I crazy for loving both the same amount? I think the SW movies are amazing and I sometimes stay up after 3AM just to catch a Star Trek episode on tv; so I love 'em both.

the rouge squadron series was the best SW games for me (cant stand treck) but over them both is Dr Who and Stargate (the BC3-04's could destroy both sides with the asguard plasma beam weapons)

Just signed up for an account to show you guys the truth

Star Gate > all other sci-fi's combined

*Edit* Bah! dragonforce you beat me to it!

Wicky_42:

Crofty:

[snip]
And I see the mention of Firefly and, awesome show that it was, raise you Farscape.

Eeeeh, I'd say not - no other sci fi has an evil bad race that will rape you to death, eat your flesh, and sew your skin into their clothing... if you're very lucky, in that order.
Firefly had a perfect blend of humour, action and character development, set in a collection of worlds that we could see existing, populated by the sort of people you would expect to see eking out a hard life on a desert moon. It took the whole 'evil empire' thing Star Wars tried to do, but does it so much more maturely and intelligently. It had no aliens, so no silly foreheads. Lasers, plasma guns and all that sci-fi jazz were avoided largely, although all the ballistic weapons did have a strange warmup noise... now why would a revolver or a shotgun go *click* *bwwwwweeee*? Meh. Also, no FTL - journeys between planets take weeks or months - how's that for realism?

Should have phrased my comment better, I wasn't insulting firefly, I said it was awesome. I was saying both that and farscape were better than star wars/trek. Though farscape felt more sci-fi than firefly, because firefly avoided lasers, plasma guns and the like. Firefly is better for believeability (apart from how they got as far as the other system on craft barely faster than we have now, but I'll let them off that), Farscape better for escapism.

Star Wars for me. been a fan since I was a kid

I do agree with the fact that Star Trek is superior in realism...
But what is more fun? a man that jungles storm troopers with a light saber and force pushes? or Deh Phazers... Star Wars is more for the spectacle while trek is more for the actual drama. It is like comparing Metroid prime With halo... VERY DIFFERENT... But hell I haven't had much experience with both to say much... I'm a jack of all trades a master of none.

Even with the new Trilogy I still need to say "Star Wars" even Gungans are better than "Forehead of the Week" and serious techno babble. The Medichlorians suck, oh god do they suck.

I would have to say I lean more towards Star Wars.