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On the Record  Posts: 5012 Joined: 28 Feb 2008     | |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1092 Joined: 23 Sep 2008     | not last week with the "OMG FIRST POST!" people, but probably be back this week i guess but without ZP many people wouldn't be here including me |
Anonymous Source  Posts: 3 Joined: 7 Jan 2009   | Just because some people get banned, doesn't make everyone who comes on for ZP a troll does it? Each to their own... |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1175 Joined: 13 Nov 2007     | I blame ZP, at least partially, for the fact that we're not allowed to like any video games anymore that weren't made by Valve. |
On the Record Posts: 5012 Joined: 28 Feb 2008 |
You didn't even read my OP, did you? |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 606 Joined: 2 Nov 2008    |
Same. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1225 Joined: 13 Dec 2007   | Yes, the traffic from Zero Punctuation is worth it because the mods have become quite accustomed to having their Banhammers at the ready on Wednesdays to seperate the wheat from the chaff. It's always funny to see a Zero Punctuation thread go like this: Yahtzee: This week on Zero Punctuation, (*insert game here*) |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 113 Joined: 25 Nov 2008   | I came here because of ZP... I just am not a complete idiot to begin with. That's the problem with most people who are like that. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 3086 Joined: 13 Jul 2008    | I came here because of a recommendation from a friend, and discovered Mr. Croshaw afterwards. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 800 Joined: 25 Nov 2008    | I found this site because of ZP and yes it does attract a lot of idiots. Overall though, I believe that it is good for the site. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1065 Joined: 27 Aug 2008    | I came here because of ZP and I find myself scratching my head at how keen some people are being the first to post a response. I've had the internet like 12-13 years now and I don't get it. What am I missing? Do you win some magical digital prize for busting the comment page's cherry? Or are they just tools? |
BANNED  Posts: 3535 Joined: 11 Oct 2008    | Erana, you should pass by the IRC chat more often, I'm talking to the staff right now and they're all just huddled up watching the ZP thread and banning people. It's true that each Wednesday ZP brings trolls and morons but the staff is always ready for it griping their big banhammers. On the whole I think the ZP's videos are worth it, it brings traffic to the site which is a good thing. User was banned for: FUN FORUM GAME THX FO PLAYIN :3. (Permanent) |
On the Record  Posts: 5973 Joined: 7 Feb 2008  | For the site? Good. For the Forums? Bad, because we get so many "I only watch ZP and have no opinions of my own" idiots wandering in here on Wednesdays. However we all started as one of them, admit it! |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 86 Joined: 30 Aug 2007   | Well as a person who only found this website because of ZP my opinion may bve slightly biased but I think it's probably a good thing. You'll get probably an equal amount of retards and intellectuals coming in, hopefully the people who can string 2 sentences together will stay. And as for the rest of them... Well let's just say there are other places they could frequent. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2030 Joined: 7 Sep 2008  | Came here for ZP, stayed for the forums. This is the only forums I know of where grammar is taken as a priority in posts. Plus there's a sense of community here not present in other videogame culture forums I went through. |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 501 Joined: 28 Aug 2008   | I don't consider my self a valuable asset to The Escapist communion, however I am not a (complete) retard and I got here through ZP. I reckon there are some people here who are considered worthy and who also came here through ZP. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1318 Joined: 19 Dec 2008   | Well, speaking as a person who got dragged in by ZP, I'm glad I found this forum (ZP or no ZP) and I like to think I'm a part of the non-troll newbie population. Population increases are always a mixed blessing and generally tend to seem worse than they actually are since idiots tend to be more vocal. However, Escapist appears to be very well moderated and if the mods can keep up the pace, the downsides of more trolls will be insignificant compared to the benefits of a greater number of productive community members. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 730 Joined: 29 Feb 2008    | I loved this forum a bit more before the sudden boom of new members, but some have been very good for this forum were as allot more have been trolls. Speaking specifically about the forums not the escapist in a whole I wouldn't mind if ZP was to find itself on another site in which the trolls would blindly follow. |
On the Record Posts: 5012 Joined: 28 Feb 2008 |
From what I can tell, you are. =D |
Beat Writer  Posts: 212 Joined: 31 Dec 2008 | Just like any good RPG and a few SCI-FI games... Trolls are inevitable. You will find them everywhere. I would bet that if you went to the forum for Hello Kitty Online, you will find them there. Give it up, they are there. |
Paperboy  Posts: 19 Joined: 17 Oct 2008   | If they want to say "FIRST!" let them do it and get banned. Seeing another ZP episode is worth having to deal with the occasional idiot. |
Beat Writer  Posts: 153 Joined: 28 Nov 2008  | All traffic is good traffic for a website. The Escapist gets to charge a few more dimes for the ads that it places on the site, which means more honoraria for good writers and, conversely, better content for us all. The forums may suffer, but your ability to freely move your eyes to and away from the screen as you desire acts as a very good filter for the trolly bullshit that floods our beloved threads each Wednesday. |
Muckraker  Posts: 339 Joined: 18 Dec 2008    | I came to this site for ZP, joined to comment on a review of a game I enjoyed, and I stay because people get banned for being agressively stupid or offensive to others. The only thing I can't stand is people quoting Yahtzee in lieu of an actual opinion... |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2996 Joined: 13 Aug 2008    |
Not true. We're not allowed to like any video games anymore that weren't made by Valve or Tim Schafer. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2142 Joined: 23 Jan 2008  | Well.. the people and mentality I value would be here. The ones who were here before me and came because of the actual value and potential of the Escapist community. Those that helped shape it into what it was. The maturity in predisposition, the insightful discussions, the inspiring RPG's and the unmatched concentration of incredible talent, conjuring works of art of world-class quality and originality. I fell upon the Escapist community through a link to an article. Possibly at Wikipedia. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1426 Joined: 3 Apr 2008   | i came for ZP and then i found the forum by accident and thought it would be fun and here i am |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 423 Joined: 27 Aug 2008 | well if were going to be elitist we can all claim that we liked the escapist before ZP and burn anyone who didn't on the stake... cause that would be cool... |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1341 Joined: 19 Jun 2008   | |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1318 Joined: 19 Dec 2008 |
<3 Also, as others have mentioned, I was drawn to the forums in part due to all the "Banned" posts I kept seeing. I was actually lurking here for about a month before I decided to join. My only concern is that the increased traffic might put too much strain on the moderators, which might result in a reduction of quality... |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1175 Joined: 13 Nov 2007 |
Good point, I forgot about that. Another entry on the meager list of things we're forbidden from NOT liking. |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 606 Joined: 2 Nov 2008 | |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 857 Joined: 24 Mar 2008 | All I know is that every time I visit the Escapist I wonder why there aren't more ZP focused threads, because there are hardly ever any. Thanks for bringing one more to this forum horribly devoid of ZP discussion. and, in response to your next comment, yes I did read it, the point stands. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2116 Joined: 23 Feb 2008 | I'd say overall it's a good thing. This website would probably have almost no members if not for yahtzee. Seriously, does anyone here actually read the articles on here with any consistency? I've read maybe three articles in the past year that I've been here and none of them entertained me that much. Shit, Khell Sennet's rants are more enjoyable than most of the articles on here. I would without a doubt leave this website and never come back if yahtzee stopped making his videos. And yes, with more traffic comes more idiots but I see trolls and idiots on almost every forum but here it hasn't gotten out of control yet mostly because of the mods. The mods have been very good about keeping idiots off the forum and hence our community stays the way it is. |
On the Record Posts: 5012 Joined: 28 Feb 2008 |
It takes massive skills to call Yahtzee a religious figure and not look like a fanboy. |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 606 Joined: 2 Nov 2008 |
Do I have those massive skills? |
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So, its Wednesday, and the newest ZP isn't out yet. Of course, this leads to several people- destined to be frozen for shouting, "First"- making posts and threads that most of the more frequent visitors to the escapist frown upon.
Of course, who would be here today without ZP having drawn them to the Escapist in the first place? (Cookies to you if you found it in another way.)
So, I ask, is the negative impact of the weekly influx of trolls worth the benefits of new, decent, users? (And possibly silly threads to be entertained by?)