Where's a good place to meet women after college?

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RipVanTinkle:
Roam the countryside...might as well start young...just imagine: ripe and supple...fresh for the picking...sure your first batch might be a little sour at first, but you'll get a feel for it -

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We're not talking about the local apple orchard are we?

ALTERNATIVELY:

Run into your local bar, naked and screaming: "I demand intercourse! Who will become the chosen one!? LOOK AT MY DISPLAY OF COURAGE!"

If I want to go down that route I might as well have a gladiator knife fight in the bar. Find someone who's already suicidal to fight to make it easier.

EeveeElectro:

Elementary - Dear Watson:
I would only reccomend online! I was single for 2 years because I was failing to meet anyone elsewhere, and due to my busy career life was kinda struggling. I then got on Match.com (I'm in the UK) and I am now meeting loads of interesting people, who like me, don't like clubbing and have similar interests. And they are of proffessions that are busy like mine too, which reduces the chance that I would meet them naturally, but ultimately feeds our capatability... Military Officers pair naturally nicely with medical professions and teachers, and that is what a lot of these girls have been!

Would... would you lower your standards very slightly and go for someone who works for Greggs? *sparkly eyes*
LOL.

Depends how many baked bean slices are sealed in the offer... Damn I haven't had one of them since I worked for Iceland! (Shit... I joined up in 08! :S)

What is it with you northerners (read: Yorkshire Dwellers) that you have so many pie shops and bakeries? I went to Doncaster recently and had a point in the shopping center where I could see 2 Greggs and a pie stand just by turning my head! :O

Then again... Southern town and cities are the same, but with Tea Shops and Antique Shops! Ely is absurd!

A pitfall trap and season 3 of Sex and the City as bait works pretty well for me (/sarcasm).

Seriously though, there's no club house where they all hang out. If you have any hobbies that require human interaction then that would probably be a good start.

Just do stuff. Gigs, dance clubs, Martial arts, swimming, nature groups etc. - whatever your passions/hobbies/interest do them and you'll meet other people. You may not meet lots of women straight away, but you'll meet people who know people and it'll develop from there.

Binnsyboy:
You sound like an ad bot right now. Just Saiyan. :D

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jackdeesface:

Johnny Novgorod:
Why are bars and dating sites a bad idea? They work, you know?

dating sites arnt for everyone. i find them incredibly depressing. The only way i meet women is stumbling into them in some Hugh Grant (like in the movies, not in real life with prostitutes) kind of way and being befuddled which apparently comes across as charming.

They're as depressing as you want them to be. It's all about not investing yourself too seriously on them and not trying to force anything just 'cause.

I'd give Okcupid another chance, it has helped me a lot. Here's the thing you need to understand though, there are a lot and I mean a LOT of creepy guys on that site. Most women on that site will get at least 50 messages a day from guys propositioning them for sex (one of the reasons I'm glad I'm a lesbian). As a result, most women you message will constantly have their guard up. Just be patient, don't be an asshole, and remember that people aren't obligated to respond to your messages

The local radio guy was discussing this recently. His suggestion: you want to go somewhere where you will be the only guy, so , 1) Fabric store, see interesting girl, ask her for her opinion about a random fabric, start talking, proceed from there. 2) Find a course that is offered at a local community centre or college that would be biased heavily toward women, his suggestion: hand reflexology or a random cooking class.

As someone who works in a supermarket if you want to meet women GO TO THE SUPERMARKET. I see more pretty women running around in there, a good amount during the day and almost always later at night like 8/9 o clock. Usually they come in then to pick up stuff for whatever their plans for the night are. Usually its like a group of two or three though so that might be a bit intimidating. Better to just stick with like the afternoon if you've got time to kill. Remember everyone has to eat, even pretty women :).

Kuilui:
As someone who works in a supermarket if you want to meet women GO TO THE SUPERMARKET. I see more pretty women running around in there, a good amount during the day and almost always later at night like 8/9 o clock. Usually they come in then to pick up stuff for whatever their plans for the night are. Usually its like a group of two or three though so that might be a bit intimidating. Better to just stick with like the afternoon if you've got time to kill. Remember everyone has to eat, even pretty women :).

Still kinda fuzzy on how that works. Do you just go: hey, you're buying pasta. I love pasta, wanna go out for italian food? I don't really see myself having a conversation that ends with 'can i get your number?' next to the canned tuna (if I did, it would certainly END with 'can i get your number').

Strazdas:

Colour Scientist:

It' also pretty easy to go to a bar and not drink alcohol, maybe try to talk to both men and women, you never know, they might have friends you could meet down the line.

sulking in a corner of a bar with a pepsi is not an effective strategy.

Who said anything about sulking in a corner?

Bookstore? Just out there in the world?

I dunno, man. There's also a certain amount of requisite guts involved here, so it's hard to say. Easiest might be something like meetup.com or something that foregrounds some interest (romantic, like through dating sites, or otherwise) that'll make it easier. My thing is usually just to go up, say hi, and strike up a conversation, but I'm told I have a certain roguish charm that helps the things I say succeed.

Colour Scientist:

Strazdas:

Colour Scientist:

It' also pretty easy to go to a bar and not drink alcohol, maybe try to talk to both men and women, you never know, they might have friends you could meet down the line.

sulking in a corner of a bar with a pepsi is not an effective strategy.

Who said anything about sulking in a corner?

If i went to bar thats what id be doing.

Out of personal experience, I only ever ended up getting a date with one when I didn't go out specifically looking for one. Yet when I actually go out looking for someone to potentially date, I have the most rotten luck ever.

My best advice I can give is to just forget about women and relationships and all that bullshit, go out and do things you want to do for yourself, like start a new hobby to learn an awesome skill or hang out with your friends or go watch a great live performance to talk about. Just shift that focus to anything but finding a girlfriend, and things will start to naturally happen.

Remember: Women are people, people are everywhere, you meet them and befriend them the same way you did your other friends, only difference being you possibly develop feelings for one down the line and ask her out. It's not rocket science but it takes a truckload of time.

Strazdas:
you only tried 2/3 gilrs online, you shouldnt give up that easily.

I've tried more than that it's just that I've been blown off by 2 or 3 with no explanation (except in one case).

AngloDoom:

Strazdas:

sulking in a corner of a bar with a pepsi is not an effective strategy.

I hear dancing and socialising in the centre of a bar with a Pepsi does wonders, though.

OT:

Have any hobbies that take you out of the house? If not, consider one. Whether a cooking class or judo, chances are you'll meet a lot of new people, at least a few of them will be your friend, and if those people aren't female they may invite you out to places where you can meet some.

In fact, any situation where you leave the house and are in a small enough group to talk to the same individual women for at least a short while is fine. A lot of people find partners at work, some end up chatting to the attractive lady who works in Lidls on a Wednesday when they come back from work. So long as you can keep bumping into them, it's a potential place where you could meet a partner.

The gym, perhaps, isn't the best place - because a lot of people feel conscious enough of moaning and sweating in front of mirrors and often physically-superior strangers without someone goggling them.

Thanks for the advice, I don't have a lot of activities that take me out of the house.

Any other suggestions for things I can try (cooking classes sound good, although I can't help but feel I might be able to learn cooking online and save money)? Even if I don't meet any women I could use a new hobby

EeveeElectro:
(edited because of my derp.) however you still make it sound a bit like women are a different and sought after species...

Your problem is you see women as potential girlfriends and not friends.

I realized that a while ago and I am trying to work on it but it's easier said than done.

And on top of that the only friends I hang out with are an all male group, and being an introvert who plays games and is out of college it's hard to find places to make new friends. Like someone else said I need more hobbies that take me out of the house.

I'm not trying to whine, I'm just giving you my situation in case you'd have some other advice. I appreciate all the advice so far.

EeveeElectro:

Look to make friends first, then go from there.

Before anyone screams friendzone, I was friends with all my boyfriends before. You can't just walk up to a woman and say, "fair maiden! You and I are to be locked in holy matrimony!"
You've got to work on it.

No offense but everyone else tells me that that's rare and if they only see you as a friend, best to move on.

EeveeElectro:

I don't want to sound rude but I think your desperation is putting women off.
Being single isn't the worst thing and having a relationship shouldn't define you.
I understand not wanting to be lonely, but just relax.

Try more places than online, if there's an hobby classes, try them. There's plenty of things you can do, although online is very good.

Just relax. You're only young and when you stop trying so hard, it'll be easier to find someone.

I'll level with you, I haven't had a significant relationship before (previous record 2 or 3 weeks) and I feel like a fuck up for not having experienced it at my age, so I am kind of desperate. I could try to relax and I probably should, but I'm used to being a loner so if I did nothing, I'd go back to old habits and never find someone.

Again sorry if this seems like whining or me thinking of excuses not to take your advice.

EeveeElectro:
(edited because of my derp.) however you still make it sound a bit like women are a different and sought after species...

Your problem is you see women as potential girlfriends and not friends. Look to make friends first, then go from there.

Before anyone screams friendzone, I was friends with all my boyfriends before. You can't just walk up to a woman and say, "fair maiden! You and I are to be locked in holy matrimony!"
You've got to work on it.

Just relax. You're only young and when you stop trying so hard, it'll be easier to find someone.

The best advice I've seen so far. All my relationships started out this way. Get with a group of friends and expand your social circle. Hangout with your friends friends. Take a class. I have a friend who took a dancing class and he met tons of women there. If you suck at dancing than this could be an opportunity to not suck. Take an art class, or join a hiking club.

The point is, if you look at every woman as a potential girlfriend than it's going to be harder to just socialize with them. Women like a guy whose laid back and friendly, so just socialize with people and don't expect anything from them. Worst case, you've made a new friend. If you get to know a girl and you decide you like her then ask her out on a date. By then you'll probably know each other well enough for you to both be relaxed.

Online dating is good too, but if you give up after talking to only two women then you aren't going to get very far. Social clubs and organizations don't have to end with college, after all.

"Cooking classes sound good, although I can't help but feel I might be able to learn cooking online and save money."

My friend, this isn't about learning to cook, it's about meeting women. You can learn anything online, but it's not about what you do, it's about finding an excuse to socialize. I get the sense that you're nervous, but the moment you stop worrying about finding a girlfriend is the moment it will become easier to get one. A cruel irony, I know.

RipVanTinkle:
Roam the countryside...might as well start young...just imagine: ripe and supple...fresh for the picking...sure your first batch might be a little sour at first, but you'll get a feel for it -

>.>

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We're not talking about the local apple orchard are we?

ALTERNATIVELY:

Run into your local bar, naked and screaming: "I demand intercourse! Who will become the chosen one!? LOOK AT MY DISPLAY OF COURAGE!"

Did... did you just deconstruct the very concept of a bar? That's some deep sociophilosophical shit right there.

*tips hat*

Hmm.

I would say to go to some convention, social event, or charity event that you are interested in.

That way, you can meet women that share similar interests as you or are interested in the event to give you something to talk about. Even if you don't land a date, at the very least you will feel more comfortable being out and sociable, as well as gaining courage to talk to women outside of these predetermined conventions, social events, and charity events.

I would recommend finding women outside an abortion clinic. Just don't do it sunday. Then you'll have to put up with the protesters after they get out of church. Also don't forget the world's most effective pick up line: "Does this smell like chloroform to you?". It requires some follow up, but I'm sure you'll figure it out. good luck.

Better idea. Train up your ability to small talk. A big problem isn't that you're not finding places, it's that your number of places in which any kind of interactions occur are small, probably limited to work/school and your hobby of choice. If you can say hello to people in the halls, at restaurants in line, on the elevator, other places where other people happen to be and have a couple seconds of time on their hands, then things will be much better for you in general, socially speaking. Naturally: practicing interacting with strangers with little in common will help you to better interact with strangers with whom you may have little in common.

Just be friendly. Smile (it sounds dumb but it makes talking easier). If you have to, put something in your mouth to keep it partially open--a lollipop, a pencil, a fork while your hands are full carrying your food--because science shows that it makes you more prone to expressing yourself more easily.

Best of luck. Don't fret if someone reacts badly--their hangups are not your problem, ultimately, and if your biggest problem in a day is that someone frowned at you for two seconds, your day is pretty damn swell.

MuffinMan74:

Strazdas:
you only tried 2/3 gilrs online, you shouldnt give up that easily.

I've tried more than that it's just that I've been blown off by 2 or 3 with no explanation (except in one case).

Fair enough, you made it sounds like you entered the site couple times and deicded it doesnt work. if you really tried in there then i can udnerstand your position. perosnally i always though dating sites are a scam as it seems to have 99% males 1% fake males pretending to be females and maybe 1 or 2 real women that lost all hope.
oh and spambots, plenty of them.
aprrently you seem to tell me there are real women in there.

MuffinMan74:
I graduated and I'm not the most social person in the world so I have no idea where to look. There aren't any women my age where OI work and I don't drink so I haven't checked out the bar scene. I've never been to a club and I don't know if there are any within 30 miles of where I live.

I have a gym membership but I haven't had much luck meeting women there. I even tried okcupid but I've been blown off by 2 or 3 different women (meaning they said they want to meet up with me then just stopped responding to me for whatever reason). Also I usually start a conversation with someone by asking about movies they like, and since they already list that I'm not sure what to say a lot of the time (my small talk isn't good).

So other than a different dating site (or maybe a bar) I'm out of ideas.

Where do you guys go, and where do you ladies hang out?

Just do online dating. Seriously, the nice thing about it is even if you get blown off by a few, there's a dozen more waiting to take their place right there. Likewise, compared to a lot of other things (namely bars), it's a lot cheaper.

If you're looking for a serious relationship, avoid bars. Also, book stores and what-not are great, but the problem with them is the same thing with all other instances of meeting women in public: you know nothing about them except that you are physically attracted to them. You have no idea if they are sane, employed, have a boyfriend, have kids already, etc. (this is probably the biggest reason I like online dating). Also, in situations such as that you frequently only have a few minutes to charm the girl, and many girls won't give out their phone numbers that quickly to a complete stranger.

The main thing is don't be discouraged, rejections are going to happen. Even people who are extremely good at meeting women admit that they get rejected about 70-80% of the time, the difference is they don't let it discourage them or affect their confidence.

Also, if you are stateside, find something you enjoy and use Meetup.com. If you're in a major city, they probably have a group for it specifically tailored for singles in your age range.

First off I would say ... Enjoy life fresh out of college! Devote your time to a hobby, find ways to express yourself, do something creative, go on a holliday, see the world and all that. There will always be time for relationships after that, and you'll probably get one allong the way doing one of those previous things. Just don't forget, a relationship isn't everything. Yes it's nice to be loved and have someone to talk to when you get back from work but hey, there's lots of things you can do that you will no longer do once you have a girlfriend or kids. Live life a little!

Apart from that... I would say you'll obviously meet some women at work, either as your co-workers or as customers and whatnot. You'll also meet them during your morning commute, during your travels abroad, during your coffee break, during your outdoors lunch, during your walk in the park and pretty much everywhere else.

There really isn't a go to place to pick up women really. Just do the things you love to do and you'll meet one as you go like I said before. Besides, this often provides you with common ground to begin with, wich is often a far better basis for a relationship then just a random club pickup. In the end, noone can tell you where you'll meet the right one, but it does happen even if you don't force it.

It's like others have said. Women are everywhere. Have adventures. Be sociable. Talk to fuckin anyone who'll listen. If they won't listen they're moody wankers anyway and you don't need that kind of negativity in your life.

I met my partner on a ferry in the middle of the Irish Sea. My travel-buddy fell asleep while he was supposed to keep an eye on the luggage and I had to keep myself awake, so I just started talking to a random passenger. And then we met for a drink a couple of days later and now we're a couple. A long-distance couple (Stoke-on-Trent, England and Dublin, Ireland) but a damn good couple nonetheless.

Wintermute:
Get a dog.

People see you walking your dog and suddenly you're the most accessible guy on the planet. I've met quite a few interesting people, most of them women, simply because I had a dog.

something about that just makes me cranky for whatever reason...although the parallel to women and dogs is quite uncanny coming to think about it.

(JOKING!)

Otherwise if your introverted stay far away from bars and clubs, don't even consider them. From my experience it just develops anger problems, which will set you back heaps. Your best bet is just to understand that there all different people with different perspectives of life and that you have to keep working on yourself as an individual.

Whorehouses are always a good option. With enough cash in hand, you're guaranteed to get laid.

If that option isn't available, then try online dating. That's how my mother met her new boyfriend.

MuffinMan74:

EeveeElectro:

Look to make friends first, then go from there.

Before anyone screams friendzone, I was friends with all my boyfriends before. You can't just walk up to a woman and say, "fair maiden! You and I are to be locked in holy matrimony!"
You've got to work on it.

No offense but everyone else tells me that that's rare and if they only see you as a friend, best to move on.

I don't know how it is where you are (assuming you're in a place with a different culture) but all of my past girlfriends were friends first, sometimes for years. In fact, I think I know a grand total of about two people who tried dating before being friends and both of them ended up severely disappointed.

It might just be a case of different strokes for different folks, but I don't understand how you could let your guard down enough to be with someone if you didn't at least know what they were like as a friend. How do you even know if you like someone without getting to know them? To me, it's unfathomable.

MuffinMan74:

Thanks for the advice, I don't have a lot of activities that take me out of the house.

Any other suggestions for things I can try (cooking classes sound good, although I can't help but feel I might be able to learn cooking online and save money)? Even if I don't meet any women I could use a new hobby

Not a problem! Happy to try and help.

I would say, firstly, that that price of admission to a cooking class will be well worth it for the people you'll meet there. That aside, you'll learn faster with a group of people around you sharing tips and mistakes. Plus, being able to cook can be quite an impressive skill for a young man.

If it's skill not appealing to you, perhaps try a language class? Or a sport - it doesn't have to be something like football/basketball, something more unusual like a martial-art or fencing might appeal? If you're skill near your uni (or near a different one) then you'll likely find a lot of different clubs for people with interests in anything from manga to outdoor survival, from film and television to art critique and interpretive dance.

The best thing you can do to raise your confidence (and the 'dating game' is nothing if not a game of confidence) is to launch yourself into the unknown and come out on top. Pick something you quite like the sound of, but you're not too sure of it. Throw yourself in head first - the worst that happens is you waste a couple of hours and never go again. The best thing that can happen is you find something which keeps you smiling for a very long time and helps you meet a lot of interesting people.

Wintermute:
Get a dog.

People see you walking your dog and suddenly you're the most accessible guy on the planet. I've met quite a few interesting people, most of them women, simply because I had a dog.

This is pretty good. And as a bonus, if you don't meet any women, at least you still have a dog. Seriously, when I think of unconditional love, I think of my dog before anything else.

Having been in a relationship that took out most of my twenties I was in a similar boat just after turning thirty, I got quite down about it with no replies on dating sites (such as ok cupid) and also fairly stringent requirements on what I was looking for in a person, I didn't want anyone, I wanted someone to love.

So I gave up, stopped looking, like yourself I don't drink (well, had quit in my late twenties) so I started getting involved with something I enjoyed, music. An old work colleague I'd not seen for a while was in a band, as were several old friends, so I started going to see them more (standing in the corner with a pepsi, well, coke, pepsi's vile) but that still took a while before I was chatting with girls, I got to know my friends partners and would get to talk to their friends which helped build my confidence and overcome my crippling shyness and inability to make small talk - we all had a central premise to talk around, the band.

Ultimately my old work friend needed someone to operate the mixing desk whilst they were playing (or he took pity on me) and I was going to more and more gigs and people are always interested in speaking to "part of the band" even if you've not got an instrument.

The same friend's wife is a fashion designer and asked me to DJ the opening night of her new store - I'd gone from spending most of my nights bored and alone to hanging out with models and designers at an invitation only party, and being the DJ, again, focus of attention. That night I met the girl who completes me.

She'd helped with the store design and painted murals over all the walls to give the place some real unique character, her ability was awesome - giving me something to break the ice but before I could bite the bullet she came over and asked if I was playing Rob Dougan, he's one of all time fav's (and turns out hers) but few know the name (though chances are you've heard something on a movie/tv/radio). She was wearing an "WOOT" (Want One Of Those) daily shirts, the Freddie Cougar Kitty one, I remarked I had the Delorean/Tardis mash-up one, so did she, rest is history.

So there's a way out, stop focusing on the end goal, focus on enjoying yourself, try not to say no even if it's to something you wouldn't feel comfortable with - I went to a bar on my own one night to see a mates band, usually I'd have to take a friend but at my age they're usually too busy with their wives. I wasn't going to, but thought, feck it, I can always come home, and I had an awesome night, ended up tagging on to my mates girlfriend and her mate and we had a great laugh and dance (I never dance, it was great fun).

Obviously this doesn't have to apply to music, it could be any interest you have - at one point I was going to join a cycle club or running club (as I enjoy both too) but the music just came around more naturally (and let's be honest, the other two are probably sausage fests anyway).

Just get out and meet people, keep an open mind and find happiness in what you do and have - I think that's the biggest thing, who's going to want to like you if you don't seem to, if you're going to bring them down they're not going to stick around to get to know you enough to want to hold you, on the couch, as you run your fingers through their hair after a long hard day at work, comfortable silence backed by the noise from the tv.

MuffinMan74:
I graduated and I'm not the most social person in the world so I have no idea where to look. There aren't any women my age where OI work and I don't drink so I haven't checked out the bar scene. I've never been to a club and I don't know if there are any within 30 miles of where I live.

I have a gym membership but I haven't had much luck meeting women there. I even tried okcupid but I've been blown off by 2 or 3 different women (meaning they said they want to meet up with me then just stopped responding to me for whatever reason). Also I usually start a conversation with someone by asking about movies they like, and since they already list that I'm not sure what to say a lot of the time (my small talk isn't good).

So other than a different dating site (or maybe a bar) I'm out of ideas.

Where do you guys go, and where do you ladies hang out?

Online sites generally don't work unless you're already successfully dating. OKCupid is probably the best but you will need to make a _really_ strong connection with someone before they will go out with you.

My suggestion is to find some hobby where you will often come into contact with women, for example learning to dance e.g. salsa is one possible thing you can do.

Dating sucks at the moment for guys, have fun.

MuffinMan74:

EeveeElectro:
(edited because of my derp.) however you still make it sound a bit like women are a different and sought after species...

Your problem is you see women as potential girlfriends and not friends.

I realized that a while ago and I am trying to work on it but it's easier said than done.

And on top of that the only friends I hang out with are an all male group, and being an introvert who plays games and is out of college it's hard to find places to make new friends. Like someone else said I need more hobbies that take me out of the house.

I'm not trying to whine, I'm just giving you my situation in case you'd have some other advice. I appreciate all the advice so far.

EeveeElectro:

Look to make friends first, then go from there.

Before anyone screams friendzone, I was friends with all my boyfriends before. You can't just walk up to a woman and say, "fair maiden! You and I are to be locked in holy matrimony!"
You've got to work on it.

No offense but everyone else tells me that that's rare and if they only see you as a friend, best to move on.

EeveeElectro:

I don't want to sound rude but I think your desperation is putting women off.
Being single isn't the worst thing and having a relationship shouldn't define you.
I understand not wanting to be lonely, but just relax.

Try more places than online, if there's an hobby classes, try them. There's plenty of things you can do, although online is very good.

Just relax. You're only young and when you stop trying so hard, it'll be easier to find someone.

I'll level with you, I haven't had a significant relationship before (previous record 2 or 3 weeks) and I feel like a fuck up for not having experienced it at my age, so I am kind of desperate. I could try to relax and I probably should, but I'm used to being a loner so if I did nothing, I'd go back to old habits and never find someone.

Again sorry if this seems like whining or me thinking of excuses not to take your advice.

Don't listen to a word that person says

Making friends with women is the last thing you want to do.

Yosharian:
Don't listen to a word that person says

Making friends with women is the last thing you want to do.

You might want to qualify this with 'if you want to date that particular woman'. While turning from friends to dating is a pretty rare thing (at least in my own experience), simply getting some female friends would be good for the guy. From what he's said so far, he seems pretty insulated from women all together.

Raioken18:
Generally friends are good because they will likely be able to scope someone out before recommending them. If you haven't had a friend try to set you up by now it's likely that you either have an unreasonably high expectation of woman you'll meet or you yourself are so distant that they don't even know you care.

Oh, is that how easy it is? Dang, you and (according to you) everyone else's lives must be awesome with how everybody's just setting up everybody all the time. There are people, like this lovely gentleman (the OP) and at least one other person I won't deign to name, that are not in either of those two categories - they just don't have many friends, or any at all, that would do that for them. I don't mean to go off on you, but if it were that simple, life would be golden and you'd see a lot less of these threads.

On topic, if you haven't guess it, I'm in the same boat as you, OP. Well, kinda. Anyways, all you can do is just go out and live your life, and hope that you meet some new people. You have to make the effort, of course. Like others have said, there's no "place" for it, just... you know, at your job, or if you're shopping, then talk to some girl who's at her job.

Do you play Magic The Gathering? Because if you do I could recommend trying to attend a few of your local events on a frequent basis. You'll definitely make a bunch of new friends, though granted it probably will be rather male dominated. Worse case scenerio you lost 1-5$ for a few weeks in a row (assuming you have a deck) playing Magic The Gathering for couple hours with a bunch of (probably) nice people. Best case scenarios, you make a bunch of friends and move from there. And it wouldn't really be awkward because you're kinda already interacting with them. And I do mean routinely attend. You rarely make friends in one ~30 minute session of card games. And as other said. Go for friends, not lovers. Expecting to be sudden lovers is bullshit.

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