Samurai Jack Season 5 thread.

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Like I kinda worried with the short season. This episode felt rushed. It seemed like three episodes rolled into one without any way to breathe.
At least compared to the episodes that came before it that were much slower and better for it.

erttheking:
Well, if that preview is anything to go by, we're going to see the return of a character that I really wasn't expecting.

Also, the Scotsman and his wife have been freaking busy, considering that he has around three dozen daughters, and I love that concept. Overall, pretty good episode.

And there will be more:

But I think the biggest surprise is the Horsemen that has been stalking Jack for the past 3 Episode, it spoke and it said its time. So its confirmed that he is Death? Or at least Jack's interpretation?

So far 2 episodes after Episode three and this show is lacking Blood and Gore...

Story:
Like I kinda worried with the short season. This episode felt rushed. It seemed like three episodes rolled into one without any way to breathe.
At least compared to the episodes that came before it that were much slower and better for it.

Despite my positive reception so far I still think it was a mistake for this finale season to be 10 episodes.

Or at least have each of the 10 episodes be an hour long like Game of Thrones and Star Trek.

Samtemdo8:

Story:
Like I kinda worried with the short season. This episode felt rushed. It seemed like three episodes rolled into one without any way to breathe.
At least compared to the episodes that came before it that were much slower and better for it.

Despite my positive reception so far I still think it was a mistake for this finale season to be 10 episodes.

Or at least have each of the 10 episodes be an hour long like Game of Thrones and Star Trek.

Agreed. I think the show works best when it takes its time. In fact part of what makes Samurai Jack unique to me is it's slow pacing. I hope this episode was just a fluke.

shows pretty dark when ur protag walks off at the end of the episode to commit suicide

On the next episode of Samurai Jack!!!

She is gonna see the aftermath of everything Jack has done in Past Episodes.

If they don't show the Spartans and the Family from the Haunted House episode I am gonna be sad :(

Really strong opening, the stuff with Jack and Ashi was kinda over the place. Even the very dark ending of Jack seemingly away of commit suicide felt really rushed. In general, this seems like it would have been improved as two separate episodes, I was more engaged with the Scotmans daughters than the Ashi's "What is wuv" part. It seems to have been the weakest episode thus far, but that in no way makes it bad.

My guess is that Jedi Ghost Scotman will end up fighting the Bruce Lee demon ghost.

MrBoBo:
Really strong opening, the stuff with Jack and Ashi was kinda over the place. Even the very dark ending of Jack seemingly away of commit suicide felt really rushed. In general, this seems like it would have been improved as two separate episodes, I was more engaged with the Scotmans daughters than the Ashi's "What is wuv" part. It seems to have been the weakest episode thus far, but that in no way makes it bad.

My guess is that Jedi Ghost Scotman will end up fighting the Bruce Lee demon ghost.

The only thing I cared about of this episode is the Ashi and Jack interactions since its clearly the overall story arc this whole season is building on.

But yes I think the flaw so far is that they are trying to do standalone-ish episodes while at the same time trying to develop an on going story arc.

Like the children being monsters and the giant sea worm could have easily been standalone episodes from past seasons.

And so far these last 2 episodes felt too filler-ish.

Samtemdo8:

MrBoBo:
Really strong opening, the stuff with Jack and Ashi was kinda over the place. Even the very dark ending of Jack seemingly away of commit suicide felt really rushed. In general, this seems like it would have been improved as two separate episodes, I was more engaged with the Scotmans daughters than the Ashi's "What is wuv" part. It seems to have been the weakest episode thus far, but that in no way makes it bad.

My guess is that Jedi Ghost Scotman will end up fighting the Bruce Lee demon ghost.

The only thing I cared about of this episode is the Ashi and Jack interactions since its clearly the overall story arc this whole season is building on.

I feel the opposite, I only truely enjoyed the Scotsman bits and thought the Jack and Ashi parts were okay

Samtemdo8:
But yes I think the flaw so far is that they are trying to do standalone-ish episodes while at the same time trying to develop an on going story arc.

Like the children being monsters and the giant sea worm could have easily been standalone episodes from past seasons.

And so far these last 2 episodes felt too filler-ish.

honestly, Samurai Jack has always been a show of filler. Like 100% filler. True, these last two episodes didn't advance the main plot but these last two episodes were also the most...accurate to the original feel of the show.

these revivals always kinda end up like this, trying to stay similar to the original show while wrapping up any plot threads that were left behind

at least this one is doing better than the X-Files revival

PapaGreg096:

Samtemdo8:

MrBoBo:
Really strong opening, the stuff with Jack and Ashi was kinda over the place. Even the very dark ending of Jack seemingly away of commit suicide felt really rushed. In general, this seems like it would have been improved as two separate episodes, I was more engaged with the Scotmans daughters than the Ashi's "What is wuv" part. It seems to have been the weakest episode thus far, but that in no way makes it bad.

My guess is that Jedi Ghost Scotman will end up fighting the Bruce Lee demon ghost.

The only thing I cared about of this episode is the Ashi and Jack interactions since its clearly the overall story arc this whole season is building on.

I feel the opposite, I only truely enjoyed the Scotsman bits and thought the Jack and Ashi parts were okay

Agree.

We've had Ashi for a couple of episodes now, and we got the ladybird realization, it's basically an extension of that, spelled out bluntly with the totally expected friendship/romance blossoming. The Scotsman is the most beloved side-character and it immediately opens with him dying, and us learning what he's been up to and how things progressed, it's kind of a no brainier that would automatically be more interesting.

Hmm, previous episode felt kinda slow after dynamically unveiling plot in first 3 episodes. This one on the other hand felt like too much events being cranked into one episode. It didn't kill my enjoyment, but i can get where the complaints about pacing are coming from.

undeadsuitor:
shows pretty dark when ur protag walks off at the end of the episode to commit suicide

Oh, and it managed to be one of the darkest and the funniest episodes so far, at the same time.

SPOILER, LEAKED IMAGES OF THE NEXT EPISODE.

YES YES I CALLED, I FREAKIN CALLED IT!!!

The Three Blind Archers will make an appearence. And holy shit its also a reference of the Viking Warrior turned Stone Monster.

But I swear if they don't have the Spartans in this episode or the Haunted House family.....

Samtemdo8:
SPOILER, LEAKED IMAGES OF THE NEXT EPISODE.

YES YES I CALLED, I FREAKIN CALLED IT!!!

The Three Blind Archers will make an appearence. And holy shit its also a reference of the Viking Warrior turned Stone Monster.

But I swear if they don't have the Spartans in this episode or the Haunted House family.....

That last pick kinda reminds me of that time Jack met the spirit of spring(?). The backgrounds are kind of similar.Maybe we will see her, who knows? Judging from the pics I hope we get to see Ashi do some karate raving like Jack.

Dansen:

Samtemdo8:
SPOILER, LEAKED IMAGES OF THE NEXT EPISODE.

YES YES I CALLED, I FREAKIN CALLED IT!!!

The Three Blind Archers will make an appearence. And holy shit its also a reference of the Viking Warrior turned Stone Monster.

But I swear if they don't have the Spartans in this episode or the Haunted House family.....

That last pick kinda reminds me of that time Jack met the spirit of spring(?). The backgrounds are kind of similar.Maybe we will see her, who knows? Judging from the pics I hope we get to see Ashi do some karate raving like Jack.

All I can say is her hair makes her look much more cuter than the spikey Illana look she always sported.

Samtemdo8:

Dansen:

Samtemdo8:
SPOILER, LEAKED IMAGES OF THE NEXT EPISODE.

YES YES I CALLED, I FREAKIN CALLED IT!!!

The Three Blind Archers will make an appearence. And holy shit its also a reference of the Viking Warrior turned Stone Monster.

But I swear if they don't have the Spartans in this episode or the Haunted House family.....

That last pick kinda reminds me of that time Jack met the spirit of spring(?). The backgrounds are kind of similar.Maybe we will see her, who knows? Judging from the pics I hope we get to see Ashi do some karate raving like Jack.

All I can say is her hair makes her look much more cuter than the spikey Illana look she always sported.

Haha yes, I just noticed it after reading your comment :D

Okay, thoughts on the new episode:

Seeing all the people Jack helped again was nice... not to mention nostalgic... shame they couldn't fit in more, but eh, what can you do?

Speaking of nostalgic, anyone notice the Astro and Popeye cameos?

I know the show is on Adult Swim now... but some moments really caught me off guard, one in particular. You know the one. (Okay, more of a certain line to be specific...)

And it's nice to see Ashi opening up even more and losing the dark girl look. (Also, that was ashes, not a body suit? Jesus Christ that was a disturbing revelation!)

Still, she does look really cute now... what?

CrazyGirl17:
Okay, thoughts on the new episode:

Seeing all the people Jack helped again was nice... not to mention nostalgic... shame they couldn't fit in more, but eh, what can you do?

Speaking of nostalgic, anyone notice the Astro and Popeye cameos?

I know the show is on Adult Swim now... but some moments really caught me off guard, one in particular. You know the one.

And it's nice to see Ashi opening up even more and losing the dark girl look. (Also, that was ashes, not a body suit? [i]Jesus Christ[/?] that was a disturbing revelation!)

You also have to consider the sudden lack of blood since Episode 3. I was worried that was all they were gonna do with Adult Swim's freedom, but I almost never expected T and A. And to be honest it was beautiful T and A.

But now that the episode is over, I am bit dissipointed in one thing mainly the ending.

The horsemen that stalked Jack the whole time and when we finally reached the climax of it, it was rather rushed and short. We have no idea who these Warrior spirits are and why they torment Jack for a failure we don't know as of yet.

I mean instead of wasting time with Scaramouche who apperently did nothing in the end anyway, mabye you could have developed more of that.

Also no Spartans and No Haunted House girl now grown up. But Da Sa Moo Rai and Rave made a reappearence :P

Samtemdo8:

The horsemen that stalked Jack the whole time and when we finally reached the climax of it, it was rather rushed and short. We have no idea who these Warrior spirits are and why they torment Jack for a failure we don't know as of yet.

Same thing from Episode 1: "You've forgotten your purpose! You've forsaken us!" I think Phil LaMarr gave us some insight into how we should look at this:

[Jack] changed a lot in some ways and not enough in others. He has not aged the way he would've expected to over those 50 years. And really, the story in a lot of ways is about - you've got a hero, you've got a hero's journey - but what happens when the hero gets sidelined on his journey and gets stuck? If you haven't accomplished your goal in 50 years, are you still a hero? Who are you? A lot of it is an explanation of that."

The failure is that after 50 years Jack's quest is still incomplete. The suffering continues. Aku's grasp chokes the past, present, and future. Hope is lost. The rider is practically a manifestation of Jack's despair and his feelings of inadequacy in the face of his inability to vanquish Aku.

Asita:

Samtemdo8:

The horsemen that stalked Jack the whole time and when we finally reached the climax of it, it was rather rushed and short. We have no idea who these Warrior spirits are and why they torment Jack for a failure we don't know as of yet.

Same thing from Episode 1: "You've forgotten your purpose! You've forsaken us!" I think Phil LaMarr gave us some insight into how we should look at this:

[Jack] changed a lot in some ways and not enough in others. He has not aged the way he would've expected to over those 50 years. And really, the story in a lot of ways is about ? you've got a hero, you've got a hero's journey ? but what happens when the hero gets sidelined on his journey and gets stuck? If you haven't accomplished your goal in 50 years, are you still a hero? Who are you? A lot of it is an explanation of that."

The failure is that after 50 years Jack's quest is still incomplete. The suffering continues. Aku's grasp chokes the past, present, and future. Hope is lost. The rider is practically a manifestation of Jack's despair and his feelings of inadequacy in the face of his inability to vanquish Aku.

Regardless another thing I am now convinced is Jack and Ashi are gonna do it with each other, I be surprised if they don't even kiss romantically in the lips.

Heck the amount of stuff this episode got away with I be more surprised if they don't show Sex.

Really dug the last episode. The cameos from the Woolies, the three archers, and the rave was nice. I was kind of hoping Da Samurai would have followed through on his promise to become a true samurai so that he would join the inevitable final battle, though his scene was still funny. I also heard a rumor that, if true, would be a really nice detail.

That rave sequence was so cute.

Synopsis for Episode 9 and 10 have been leaked and they are as vague as possible:

Samtemdo8:
Synopsis for Episode 9 and 10 have been leaked and they are as vague as possible:

This is something more than interesting now!

Jack is definately back...

For the most part I liked the episode. My one complaint is the "running down the mountain" bit. I accept feats of strength to a degree (cleaving metal, Jumping Good, the stone throw, and even tearing apart robots) but picking up someone and then using them to bulldoze through...I don't know, a hundred or so people with seemingly greater ease than a 18-wheeler? That feels...well a bit too brutish. Most every other feat performed by the protagonists has tended to leverage their greater skill, but that was pure 'hulk smash' raw power that feels out of place for the franchise.

Alright I can't deny it any longer.

This season is disapointing and not because of what is actually there, but the big problem is what I was fearing from when they announced this season.

IT IS RUSHED!!!

The pacing is too fast, all the events and resolutions happened too quickly and un-eventfully and its entirely because its only 10 episodes with 30 minute run time each.

For example when Jack stopped himself from commiting Suicide and defeated that ghostly horsemen. That Horsemen was grossly underdeveloped. We have no idea who that is and why? Where did Jack began to be stalked by this being?

And for this episode and I hope it isn't the end, but Ashi is met by her mother again and they fight, but sadly she is killed off. And Jack does not even know she exists. Because of that we will never know who she is and why she worships Aku and why she wants Jack dead, it feels like she has a personal stake at this.

I mean instead of wasting our time with unnecessary things like the insides of a Giant Worm, the children corrupted, some of the call backs (The Rave, And the Samoorai were not cool callbacks) and fucking SCARAMOUCHE!!! They could have added something that furthered the storyline of these interesting plotlines.

And again another problem is that the fastforwarded 50 years, who knows what else has happened between the seasons.

But still this season is grossly rushed to tell finale of Jack and the arcs and charcaters you introduced deserves at least 20 episodes and thats a conservitive esitimate. I think it should have 20 episodes each an hour long or 30 episodes.

I am sorry but this is disapointing. I mean the final episode is Jack facing off Aku, and its gonna be done in 30 minutes. And Jack has been shown in the past to easily outmatch Aku in every time they combat so where is the tension? Which is why I found Aku to be an unintimidating, failure of a villain played now for laughs as the series progressed.

I mean how I would have done this season justice with the material of what they presented:

Make the Ashi and Jack relationship more gradual.

Have the Horsemen be more subtle and mysterious. I mean people in the interent were making more interesting speculations than the resolution that did happen. I mean did the guy had too look beefy when he got off his horse?

Have the final confrontation with Ashi's mother be a whole episode with no filler scenes and take place in the place where Ashi was born and trained and mention a back story to who Ashi's mother is.

Cut Scaramouche entirely, he is to me what Jar Jar Binks is to Star Wars fans, and cut out these unnecessary plot lines like the Giant Worm.

And if the callbacks are needed there are much more interesting charcaters you can callback to than the Black Samoorai and the Rave.

Like the Spartans, the little girl from the Haunted House, the Lava Monster, the Monkeys and the caveman the Jumps good, The Mountain Monks, and the Shaolin Monks.

I thought it was pretty good. The only issue for me was that the mother randomly showed up.
Besides that, typically good action scenes with character development.

The sword thing was like King Arthur where you need to be worthy, which ties into the original show when his father was gifted the sword and his character at the start of season 5 with his inner demon.

MrBoBo:
I thought it was pretty good. The only issue for me was that the mother randomly showed up.
Besides that, typically good action scenes with character development.

The sword thing was like King Arthur where you need to be worthy, which ties into the original show when his father was gifted the sword and his character at the start of season 5 with his inner demon.

That was the worse part, I thought she and Jack and Ashi was gonna have a confrontation with her back in her Lair, I mean Jack deserves to face her to considering she is that dead set on trying to kill Jack.

Samtemdo8:

MrBoBo:
I thought it was pretty good. The only issue for me was that the mother randomly showed up.
Besides that, typically good action scenes with character development.

The sword thing was like King Arthur where you need to be worthy, which ties into the original show when his father was gifted the sword and his character at the start of season 5 with his inner demon.

That was the worse part, I thought she and Jack and Ashi was gonna have a confrontation with her back in her Lair, I mean Jack deserves to face her to considering she is that dead set on trying to kill Jack.

She was never Jack's demon to face, though. She might have fancied herself Jack's archnemesis, but it was Ashi she hurt, Ashi she lied to, and Ashi she pushed down the path of hatred. Jack's only investment in her is self-preservation, no different than the countless bounty hunters sent his way. Ashi's is redemption and the final rejection of her mother's teachings. She was Ashi's battle to win, not Jack's.

Asita:

Samtemdo8:

MrBoBo:
I thought it was pretty good. The only issue for me was that the mother randomly showed up.
Besides that, typically good action scenes with character development.

The sword thing was like King Arthur where you need to be worthy, which ties into the original show when his father was gifted the sword and his character at the start of season 5 with his inner demon.

That was the worse part, I thought she and Jack and Ashi was gonna have a confrontation with her back in her Lair, I mean Jack deserves to face her to considering she is that dead set on trying to kill Jack.

She was never Jack's demon to face, though. She might have fancied herself Jack's archnemesis, but it was Ashi she hurt, Ashi she lied to, Ashi she pushed down the path of hatred. Jack's only investment in her is self-preservation, no different than the countless bounty hunters sent his way. Ashi's is redemption and the final rejection of her mother's teachings. She was Ashi's battle to win, not Jack's.

Even I understand that, I was hoping for both him AND Ashi to take her on. And at least an explination as to who she is, because again I feel she has a personal stake for killing Jack. I mean she could have easily went to kill Jack herself considering she is clearly skilled in Combat.

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