Well after a 15 minute wait, I got to try the L4D2 Demo, and for the most part it's fun. For one your AI teamates are better, they don't waste health, hurry to save your sorry ass when a special infected pounces, maims, pounds, or burns you. While I wasn't looking at them most of the time, they used some form of stratagy and kept close to both me and themselves, they keep up as always and are much better for it.

There are 3 more "special" infected added to the list, making it 7. Armored and hazmat infected don't count. You have the Charger, an f'ed up looking zombie with a bigass arm, his job is to split/divide players and maybe kill a survivor. Next is the Spitter, she can spit acid at you and the ground to make it impossible to cross for a few seconds, her job is to slow down/divide players to allow other special infected finish players off (thats gotta suck on expert!). Finally there is the Jockey, an annoying little bastard that will jump on you and steer you into danger, that makes him a pain in the ass on harder difficulties.

A new option to add to your secondary, I just used up all my shotgun ammo and I'm fucked slot, is a melee weapon. Now against normal infected these weapons work great, against the special infected well... hope you got some pain pills and maybe a med pack. Another new add on is a pair of jumper cables, to revive a person by putting X amount of watts into their flesh, that's designed more for expert difficulty, but still shows up in the lower difficulties. They've also added new gernades like boomer bile which attracts zombies but doesn't kill them like a pipebomb, and new drugs like adrenaline which speeds you up.

What I didn't like was how the Witch can kill you in two hits, they also took out player closets (porbably to keep players from being cheap), I also don't like how most of the content in L4D2 could have been DLC for the first. Still this is a better L4D and it works good and plays good, and thats all we need to ask from a game. Kudos to Valve, for giving us the game that allows us to shoot southern zombies!

Good review. They didn't take out dual pistols, though. They did add a magnum that I'm not sure you could dual with, but the magnum is so awesome by itself that it doesn't matter. I'm actually pretty excited about L4D2 at this point.

They didnt take out dual pistols you can still find pistols on the ground, as well as the magnum which replaces your pistol but is still long range. Also yes all of the content in L4D2 could have been downloadable, other than the AI improvements, but it would have cost a fortune and took up a ton of space so its better off this way, at least in my opinion.
Edit: After seeing the guy above me I thought Id clear up that you cannot dual wield magnums.

EnigmaticThor:
Good review. They didn't take out dual pistols, though. They did add a magnum that I'm not sure you could dual with, but the magnum is so awesome by itself that it doesn't matter. I'm actually pretty excited about L4D2 at this point.

Yeah, your right. I'm not sure about how many campaigns theres going to be, but I hear it's going to intertwine with one another, but still limited amount of levels to go through.

adledog:
They didnt take out dual pistols you can still find pistols on the ground, as well as the magnum which replaces your pistol but is still long range. Also yes all of the content in L4D2 could have been downloadable, other than the AI improvements, but it would have cost a fortune and took up a ton of space so its better off this way, at least in my opinion.
Edit: After seeing the guy above me I thought Id clear up that you cannot dual wield magnums.

You actually used a magnum? Why didn't I see it? I played the demo about 10 times.

Because of the defibrillator I'm curious as to how expert will work, will there be no more hero closets but a resurrection at the end of a chapter? Killing someone off in front of a hero closet was an effective way to resurrect a player and then they were able to pick up their gear.

Look with any new information on this thread about the game I'll update the review accordingly.

Diablini:

adledog:
They didnt take out dual pistols you can still find pistols on the ground, as well as the magnum which replaces your pistol but is still long range. Also yes all of the content in L4D2 could have been downloadable, other than the AI improvements, but it would have cost a fortune and took up a ton of space so its better off this way, at least in my opinion.
Edit: After seeing the guy above me I thought Id clear up that you cannot dual wield magnums.

You actually used a magnum? Why didn't I see it? I played the demo about 10 times.

Once you leave the room that has new guns and melee weapons over the the trucks, run around the corner and all the way down the alley and sometimes there will be magnums by the fence.

CKYNEMESIS:
Because of the defibrillator I'm curious as to how expert will work, will there be no more hero closets but a resurrection at the end of a chapter? Killing someone off in front of a hero closet was an effective way to resurrect a player and then they were able to pick up their gear.

Resurrection still works the same way, just if you pull out a defib it highlights dead bodies so you can run up to them and use it just like a med kit.

Way too much like the first, a no buy from me.

Errrr... The survivor cloests are there, if you mean the closets you respawn in.

I shock paddled my friend back to life during a melee dual, and he hit me with the guitar before I could switch back. He killed me and left me but I respawned in a cupboard, banging on the doors just like L4D.

CAPITAL LETTERS ARE FUN

Yeah, it is good, it's certainly helped me decide to buy the game when it comes out.

You forgot to mention the now extensive list of weapons. Y'know, what with everything?
They have;
M-16/Old Assault Rifle (From LFD1)
Old Sub-machine Gun (No Silencer; From LFD1)
Pump Shotgun (From LFD1)
Chrome Shotgun (New; slightly better than the pump)
Combat Shotgun (New; an automatic Chrome Shotgun)
Tactical Shotgun (Automatic Pump Shotgun; From LFD1)
Hunting Rifle (From LFD1)
Improved Rifle ([Don't know the proper name; bigger clip, more accurate]New)
Grenade Launcher (Not In Demo; New)
Burst Assault Rifle (New; High Accuracy)
AK-47 (New; Bigger clip, Low Accuracy)
And the melees so far...
Nightstick
Machete
Guitar
Frying Pan
Ninja Sword (Not In Demo)

You already heard about them there magnums, so need to go there...
Oh, right, Other...the usual
Bile Bomb
Pipe Bomb
Molotov
Adrenaline
Pills (Coach; I know one thing...I'm grabbin pills)
Med Kit
Defibrillator

The Uncommon Common (CEDA Agents [Hazmat] and Police zombies) aren't around inside the Non-Violent version. But there are ways to alter the files and remove the violence blocker...the other computer in this house has it.

I enjoyed the demo. DEFINITELY feels like an expansion pack, NOT a sequel. I'll def pick it up on a weekend sale.

EnigmaticThor:
Good review. They didn't take out dual pistols, though. They did add a magnum that I'm not sure you could dual with, but the magnum is so awesome by itself that it doesn't matter. I'm actually pretty excited about L4D2 at this point.

I have read someone else talking about a desert eagle, mind telling me where in the demo you found the DE or magnum? I would love a mess about with it. :D

OT: Yep agree with the review, especially about the friendly AI, they def know how to handle themselves better now, thank god.

I actually disagree about the Survivor AI, I think they're just as terrible as they were in Left 4 Dead. They're excellent at killing a single target, but fail against multiple targets, making them pathetic at dealing with the common infected. On Expert the common infected are the second biggest threat (friendly fire being number one IMO) so you basically have to kill half the zombies by yourself if you want to stand a chance. Plus they do really stupid things, like run twenty feet to melee something off instead of just shooting it.

Here's a fun game - download the plugin that lets you play as Infected, set up a single-player game on Expert, allow an all bot team, switch to infected, hide somewhere out of sight, do not attack, and watch the AI fail repeatedly.

Blatherscythe:

EnigmaticThor:
Good review. They didn't take out dual pistols, though. They did add a magnum that I'm not sure you could dual with, but the magnum is so awesome by itself that it doesn't matter. I'm actually pretty excited about L4D2 at this point.

Yeah, your right. I'm not sure about how many campaigns theres going to be, but I hear it's going to intertwine with one another, but still limited amount of levels to go through.

5 Campaigns with 4 levels each I think.

Story will link them together.

Really good demo. Definitely equal or greater value than the original game. I'm gonna be buying this one.

What do you mean by player closets?

Do you mean the cupboards they respawn in? In that case, they're still in the game

You can still dual-wield

The Bots still do that damn annoying "try to pick up a downed player at all costs, even if it means running into a Tank" thing

Dusty Pancakes:
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I also heard that there's going to be cricket bats in the game.

You left out a ton of details. You neglected to mention most of the new weapons and items. You always only gave a very brief description of the new SI, and didn't even talk about the UCI. What about all the improvements made to the AID?

Sorry, it's just that there is a lot missing from this review. Had I not played the demo myself I would know almost nothing about the game.

Also, hero closets and duel wielding are still in the game.

Hoppetussa:

Dusty Pancakes:
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I also heard that there's going to be cricket bats in the game.

There is. In fact, the dialogue spoken by the survivors when they pick it up is already in the game.

I like how Ellis calls it "some sort of paddle-bat thing."

Mrsnugglesworth:
5 Campaigns with 4 levels each I think.

Story will link them together.

There are 5 campaigns, but 3 of them have 5 levels each. The only ones with 4 levels are Dead Center and Swamp Fever (or was it Hard Rain?), and in those campaigns the levels are lengthened so that they are just as long as the other campaigns.

Played the Demo, thought it kicked ass. That new high-powered rifle is my new favorite. 30 rounds per clip, one-hit kills and zoom? Time to retire the old assault rifle.

Good review, I don't plan on buying but renting on release. My experience was a little different though. For the Charger he was spot on, but he came alone so as tough as he was the whole team destroyed him pretty fast. The spitter is obscenely weak I took her down way to fast but her acid is a good slow down and hurts! if your not paying attention. The jockey seems more dangerous then he actually is, like the spitter was already down when he would show up, and for some reasons when there was regular zombies he would stir me away from them most of the time, one time he did put me in the middle of a mob and I did go down. To me the best new zombie is the armored at first I figured that if I just shot a lot he would die, but no he keeps getting back up, eventually I did the melee then shoot strategy and that made it easier, hes still a fiend in mobs.
I was playing on advanced difficulty level.

Flushfacker:

EnigmaticThor:
Good review. They didn't take out dual pistols, though. They did add a magnum that I'm not sure you could dual with, but the magnum is so awesome by itself that it doesn't matter. I'm actually pretty excited about L4D2 at this point.

I have read someone else talking about a desert eagle, mind telling me where in the demo you found the DE or magnum? I would love a mess about with it. :D

OT: Yep agree with the review, especially about the friendly AI, they def know how to handle themselves better now, thank god.

I dont remember exactly but there's a desert eagle behind a dumpster in the second part I think. It counts as a primary gun instead of secondary though, so you cant carry a shotgun and a Deagal. which sucks.
edit: its a magnum.

RoseBridge:

Flushfacker:

EnigmaticThor:
Good review. They didn't take out dual pistols, though. They did add a magnum that I'm not sure you could dual with, but the magnum is so awesome by itself that it doesn't matter. I'm actually pretty excited about L4D2 at this point.

I have read someone else talking about a desert eagle, mind telling me where in the demo you found the DE or magnum? I would love a mess about with it. :D

OT: Yep agree with the review, especially about the friendly AI, they def know how to handle themselves better now, thank god.

I dont remember exactly but there's a desert eagle behind a dumpster in the second part I think. It counts as a primary gun instead of secondary though, so you cant carry a shotgun and a Deagal. which sucks.
edit: its a magnum.

Hey thanks for the help, I found it in the end since then anyway, but appreciated none the less. I think it is a secondary weapon though, I was sure it just replaced my standard pistols when I found it. PS: it rocks!

Flushfacker:

RoseBridge:

Flushfacker:

EnigmaticThor:
Good review. They didn't take out dual pistols, though. They did add a magnum that I'm not sure you could dual with, but the magnum is so awesome by itself that it doesn't matter. I'm actually pretty excited about L4D2 at this point.

I have read someone else talking about a desert eagle, mind telling me where in the demo you found the DE or magnum? I would love a mess about with it. :D

OT: Yep agree with the review, especially about the friendly AI, they def know how to handle themselves better now, thank god.

I dont remember exactly but there's a desert eagle behind a dumpster in the second part I think. It counts as a primary gun instead of secondary though, so you cant carry a shotgun and a Deagal. which sucks.
edit: its a magnum.

Hey thanks for the help, I found it in the end since then anyway, but appreciated none the less. I think it is a secondary weapon though, I was sure it just replaced my standard pistols when I found it. PS: it rocks!

well anyway glad to help.

This wasn't a very good review, sorry. A lot of the information is false, if by "Player Closets" you mean when a new character spawns inside of a closet, or a room, then you are wrong, they DO have that. And there is NO WAY the game could have possibly been "DLC" for the first. The new game is just too big and would be too much of a hassle and expenditure on Valve's end.

I'd also like to state to a lot of the people who bitch about how this should have been DLC in the first place. Fuck you. you have no right to be entitled to anything.

RoseBridge:

Flushfacker:

EnigmaticThor:
Good review. They didn't take out dual pistols, though. They did add a magnum that I'm not sure you could dual with, but the magnum is so awesome by itself that it doesn't matter. I'm actually pretty excited about L4D2 at this point.

I have read someone else talking about a desert eagle, mind telling me where in the demo you found the DE or magnum? I would love a mess about with it. :D

OT: Yep agree with the review, especially about the friendly AI, they def know how to handle themselves better now, thank god.

I dont remember exactly but there's a desert eagle behind a dumpster in the second part I think. It counts as a primary gun instead of secondary though, so you cant carry a shotgun and a Deagal. which sucks.
edit: its a magnum.

Wait a second, the Deagle counted as my firearm, so I was able to keep my chrome shotty AND a deagle (Up until I find a machete :D)

AkJay:
I'd also like to state to a lot of the people who bitch about how this should have been DLC in the first place. Fuck you. you have no right to be entitled to anything.

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Tad bit hostile aren't we? We are all entitled to our opinions.

I wasn't originally gonna get it until a sale went on but after hearing coach say "I know one thing for sure. I'm grabbing peelz" I was Sold (Until a smaller sale goes off) :D

dududf:

AkJay:
I'd also like to state to a lot of the people who bitch about how this should have been DLC in the first place. Fuck you. you have no right to be entitled to anything.

...

Tad bit hostile aren't we? We are all entitled to our opinions.

I wasn't originally gonna get it until a sale went on but after hearing coach say "I know one thing for sure. I'm grabbing peelz" I was Sold (Until a smaller sale goes off) :D

I'm no more hostile than the people who are outrage, OUTRAGED, at the fact that they actually have to pay money for a video-game instead of it being DLC, which as i stated before, would be impossible.

AkJay:

dududf:

AkJay:
I'd also like to state to a lot of the people who bitch about how this should have been DLC in the first place. Fuck you. you have no right to be entitled to anything.

...

Tad bit hostile aren't we? We are all entitled to our opinions.

I wasn't originally gonna get it until a sale went on but after hearing coach say "I know one thing for sure. I'm grabbing peelz" I was Sold (Until a smaller sale goes off) :D

I'm no more hostile than the people who are outrage, OUTRAGED, at the fact that they actually have to pay money for a video-game instead of it being DLC, which as i stated before, would be impossible.

That's no exscuse, remember the saying "Don't argue with idiots, they'll bring you down to their level then beat you with experience."

'sides some may honestly have thought it was going to be DLC to begin with, then out cried when they thought that they were paying a full game price for (In their minds) DLC.

From which over all is wrong, but nonetheless it's their opinions, same as it is ours that it shouldn't be DLC.

Ah well, don't wanna get all hostile on yeah, in case that's what your gettin' =]

Hoppetussa:

Dusty Pancakes:
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I also heard that there's going to be cricket bats in the game.

Of course, how could I have forgotten!
The baseball bat, for pre-ordering.
Well, I haven't heard anything about cricket bats, but sure, why not?

Powerman88:
I enjoyed the demo. DEFINITELY feels like an expansion pack, NOT a sequel. I'll def pick it up on a weekend sale.

I agree with this of that being this is more of an expansion rather than an actual sequel.

I'll be waiting till till it hits discount on steam in a year or so. It looks nice and plays much the same I just don't feel the need to dish out another 40 dollars like i did on thier first game.