Seriously, itīs okay. When i was her age, i was into Power Rangers. She will be awesome, just like me.

greygelgoog:

Sheppard:
My favorite anime series/movies are gundam, appleseed, and robotech. But of course the best is HAMTARO!!!!!

For mentioning Robotech rather than any of the anime it's derived from, you officially hate anime.

What if he put Robotech/SDF Macross, because aside from what he said that is basically 80%of my collection.

I never really liked anime.

Something about those tiny mouths.

To be honest, I can't agree with a lot of the stuff here because I just don't 'get' anime. I don't get how people find anime girls hot when they have weird plugsocket contraptions with ridiculous eyes instead of human faces. I don't get how people can enjoy anime fight scenes because they're just whizz-bang-boom nonsense. One memorable fight scene in Naruto just consisted of one scene of a guy running played over and over, interrupted every ten seconds so somebody could explain what was happening. No joke. I don't know how people can find anime writing exemplary when something crucial must've been lost in translation.

I didn't enjoy Hellsing because of Alucard. He just sucked all the tension out of it. 'Oh here's Alucard, they shot him, yep, he isn't dead, oh he killed them, surprise, roll credits'. Essentially it felt more like an exercise in throwing blood around than a series.

I didn't enjoy Neon Genesis Evangelion because, from the way people described it, it was a magical dream machine made of sex and beauty and sculpted out of strawberry cheescake. Frankly I wanted to choke the life out of everyone involved for their quasi-philosophical musing and repeated refrain of 'this guy/girl is messed up'. It's like Supernatural; there's only so much 'oh god life is so bleak my daddy never loved meee' a man can take. Also the series that was meant to reinvent anime had a fucking penguin waddling around. Why? And the last few episodes were just a Powerpoint presentation on more pseudo-deepness.

I could've strained to enjoy Trigun. The idea of an anime protagonist who isn't a blood-crazed psychopath was a nice idea, but again, too much introspection. To leave something implied is to allow the viewer to know the character more deeply on their own terms. To deliver huge unwieldy monologues on everything you ever thought or did is to allow the viewer a bathroom break.

That's my two cents anyway. I've erected my flame-shield, just in case.

Quite an amazing necro. I forgot I had this. On hindsight, I find my English has improved immensely. Though, to reply to a post:

Foolish Mortal:
I didn't enjoy Neon Genesis Evangelion because, from the way people described it, it was a magical dream machine made of sex and beauty and sculpted out of strawberry cheescake. Frankly I wanted to choke the life out of everyone involved for their quasi-philosophical musing and repeated refrain of 'this guy/girl is messed up'. It's like Supernatural; there's only so much 'oh god life is so bleak my daddy never loved meee' a man can take. Also the series that was meant to reinvent anime had a fucking penguin waddling around. Why? And the last few episodes were just a Powerpoint presentation on more pseudo-deepness.

I agree with your point about Hellsing. I've grown tired of a series where the main character can't be killed. But with Evangelion, I find myself attracted to the script. It to me is a subject few films grasp. The script as well was brilliantly crafted. The fact that there was robots and intelligent penguins I can overlook for that fact.

The Franco:

The sum of this is that I've come to the conclusion that I'm a closet anime fan, but that I also can't stand 90% of anime out there. Seriously, I hated Neon Genesis Evangelion . I had no idea what the hell was going on half the time. Why were there huge robots that fought aliens? If civilization had advanced to the point that giant robots were a feasible option as a weapon, why the hell didn't they just make an army of tiny ones complete with rail guns, or mini-hadron cannons, or just pick a word from a Quantum physics book and make a gun that shoots that. Seriously, I think they wouldn't lose too much of the audience if they decided to use all of a sudden use a gluon-quark wave cannon. (Although in a practical sense it wouldn't do shit, but it certainly does follow the Rule of Cool, along with the Giant Robots).

The "aliens", as you called them, were just there to make you think you were watching a generic fighting robot show.

Neon Genesis Evangelion has the most beautiful apocalypse I have ever seen.

There are a few ones that are more down to earth and less zany. Spice and Wolf, and Kino's Journey (title in Japanese but with Kino in it) are thought provoking and enjoyable for me. I occasionally watch zany ones, if they are a parody of zany ones (example being Ouran High School Host Club) or if the crazy moments are intermittent (Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya). Just some other options to think about.

the last ten years have not spawned an even halfways decent anime, bebop, trigun and ruroni kenshin were the last good ones. everyone else not made by miyazaki(i havent seen ponyo yet but from what iv seen its below par of his usual work) is the same crap over and over. although fairy tale isnt bad as a manga so far. manga has been doing ok in some areas

There's good anime, there's bad anime, & there's typically bad anime. The difference between the latter 2 is that bad anime TRIES while typically bad anime is simply aimed at sweaty teens entering puberty. Or is just typical & bad.

Kuhkmala:
There are a few ones that are more down to earth and less zany. Spice and Wolf, and Kino's Journey (title in Japanese but with Kino in it) are thought provoking and enjoyable for me. I occasionally watch zany ones, if they are a parody of zany ones (example being Ouran High School Host Club) or if the crazy moments are intermittent (Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya). Just some other options to think about.

I don't even know how I found out about it, but I did & watched Aria recently (Aria The Animation, The Natural, & The Origination, 3 seasons altogether). It's very down-to-earth, peaceful, relaxing, & at some times sad & happy at once. There is no action whatsoever!

i quite liked higurashi actually. i'll admit the first thing you mentioned sounded awful, but higurashi was quite fun to watch, although the second season kind of killed it for me.

i generally go in for dark anime. i cant stand the light hearted stuff, it puts me off really badly. and i dislike the humour attempts in anime, or people getting angry and increasing in size because of it.

and just so you know, yugioh the original series was created before the card game got created. it just seems like a cash-in because 4kids did a bad job of dubbing it.

out of the many crappy Animes there are the ones that glimmer of goodness. just depends on the ones you watch.

Watch Death Note then come back :)

PurpleRain:
Hurry up Goku!

Good rant.

I tend to treat anime as a big file of fertilizer. Generally it smells, there's too much of it and you wouldn't want to touch it with a 10ft extended bo staff. Sometimes, that filthy stench ridden manure, creates a beautiful blossom of genius or at least some tasty fungi of pleasure.

Personally I tend to let others wade through the much but have enjoyed the following and others (haven't seen Evangellion, yet):

Cowboy Bebop - the rose of the anime pile
Ghost in the Shell - a delicious tuber grown deep the collective swamp of anime and bad sci-fi.
FLCL - the dangerously hallucinogen of that grew of the side of the pile.

a good few animes are very close to hentai

So the OP didn't like Ikki Tousen or Higurashi, and therefore all anime is bad. Call the waaambulance already!

Well, there is bad, stupid, action-y stuff, but there is also clever, interesting stuff. Watch

Nausicaa - Very depressing themes and a great ending. Absolutely beautiful presentation.
Spirited Away - Powerful themes and extraordinary presentation. Also, great music
And finally, if you enjoyed those, then you might like this:
Paprika - Clever and post-modernistic, but might be to weird for you. Covers great themes, like rape, homosexuality, and identity. Don't worry, it isn't sick. It covers those themes in a mature way.

I've been for the last year and a half looking for another great anime to watch. I've watched Dragon ball(since kid, Death note, Claymore, Ghost in shell, Trigun, All studio studio ghibli stuff and a few others I can't recall the names or spellings at this time. I've loved them all but recently I cannot find a new great one to watch. Nothing seems to be both mature enough and still have that anime kid feel that studio ghibli gives out. so Can any one please message me with a list of good mature undertone yet still be fun anime to watch I'd be ever so grateful.

What's the difference?, the anime you watched is shit, most of them are. Same with video games, movies, books. The reason most exceptional things stand out is because everything else looks like shit by comparison. I haven't seen a lot of anime, but I have seen a lot of good anime.
Samurai X, Berserk, Gankutsuou, Death Note, these are all good anime. The anime you saw was made by somebody who obviously didn't know how to tell a story, but you can't judge other anime on those. The top grossing film this year(or at least one of them) was Transformers. If somebody who's never seen a movie before watched Transformers and then decided movies were crap would it make any sense. And I'm sorry if I sound like I'm angry, I'm not, it's just that I've seen people insult, under appreciate art, and sometimes even blame it for their problems instead of taking responsibility. Art forms are defined by the pieces that represent their potential not spit on it

I still watch Anime. And I have never heard of those anime you talked about.

Hey hey hey...don't knock Digimon. It's awesome. I use my five year old brother as an excuse to watch the movie.

Damn it, gotta love Cherubimon.

I do like anime, well actually I usually read the manga, I'm too impatient to wait for the show to do it's thing, whereas if #I read it, I can go as fast as I like.

The main thing to realise is that manga/anime is a huge media, and there are a lot of good ones. Unfortunately, there are a /LOT/ of really sucky ones which shouldn't even be allowed to exist. Also unfortunately, the ratio of good-to-bad is massively tipped towards the bad side. As long as you can dig through the layer of crap to the gleaming treasure of awesomeness buried within, anime is good. Stuff like Akira, Fullmetal Alchemist, Death Note, Katekyo Hitman Reborn!, etc. Those are good. Just avoid the crap.

sumanoskae:
What's the difference?, the anime you watched is shit, most of them are. Same with video games, movies, books. The reason most exceptional things stand out is because everything else looks like shit by comparison. I haven't seen a lot of anime, but I have seen a lot of good anime.
Samurai X, Berserk, Gankutsuou, Death Note, these are all good anime. The anime you saw was made by somebody who obviously didn't know how to tell a story, but you can't judge other anime on those. The top grossing film this year(or at least one of them) was Transformers. If somebody who's never seen a movie before watched Transformers and then decided movies were crap would it make any sense. And I'm sorry if I sound like I'm angry, I'm not, it's just that I've seen people insult, under appreciate art, and sometimes even blame it for their problems instead of taking responsibility. Art forms are defined by the pieces that represent their potential not spit on it

I think this sums up what I was thinking perfectly.

I also think its strange how people will be like "ANIME IS FUCKING STUPID" (except I really liked Cowboy Bebop, Akira, Ghost in the Shell, etc.).

That means you LIKED anime.

The Sorrow:

Jagdedge:

The Sorrow:
L's my favorite fictional character of all time, so I had to work something in there.

Anyway, I have to respectfully disagree with naming Kamina the manliest, Jagdedge. Berserk's Guts is the manliest, possibly tied with Hellsing's Alucard.

The thing is, you have to die a manly death in order to even qualify for the manliest being in exsistence. Punching a kid in the face, having the obligatory hot girl waiting for your tender loving, killing upwards of twenty people in giant mechs, and then killing their General, all while sustaining injuries resulting from a giant laser to the chest and a glaive 20 times your size being stabbed into your back are all awesome and manly things, and all things that made up his death sequence. Kamina was the embodiement of everything GAR.

Counterpoint: You know what it took to kill Alucard? They had to bloody erase him from existence in a paradox. He survived mutilation, decapitation, hundreds of bullet wounds, even crashing an SR-71 into an aircraft carrier's deck.

Guts: Where do I begin? The fact that his sword as more than a foot wide and between 6-7 feet long? The fact that he sliced off his own hand to get it free to protect the woman carrying his child? The fact that he's taken out demons twice his size? That his hand was replaced with a fake one that conceals a cannon? HOW MUCH MANLIER CAN YOU GET?!

You could be Chuck Norris.

But back to the subject at hand, anime is far too chummy with paedophilia in many circumstances, and for that it falls foul with me. The subtle suggestions in Kuroshitsuji of Sebby and Ciel (Sebby being of unknown age and Ciel a ripe old TWELVE) were nearly enough to put me off, but that was really nothing compared to Loveless. Loveless just took the cake and all my desire to watch anymore and threw it out the bloody window asap.

Heh, people are starting to assume that I hate all anime (the nazi worshiper especially). But as I recall, I was posting ones I love. I guess at the time I wrote this, I didn't get the point across to well.
So, I'll try and powerphrase what I may have meant:
'You can't say that you like anime or you hate anime. It is a big genre with both great, good and crap, just like all genres. I do like many anime shows, but there is also many many that I just can't bare to watch. Sadly, the latter outweighs the former and it is because of people who say "I love all anime" I feel is the cause of this. It's a big market with lots of money. So of course, there will be lots of churn out products. As long as they still continue to make money on crap, shows and movies like Ghost in the Shell and Spirited Away will be drowned out by anime shows about roller skating while gaining power animals of some shit like that.'

PurpleRain:

Kinetic_man:

PurpleRain:
The gorgeous emotional drama that is Neon Genesis?

Actually a LOT of people all over the world really hate Evangelion, but I do see the point you're trying to make here. Although I myself like many Anime series/movies of old and new such as Eva, Lain, GitS (movies and the series), even Ergo Proxy, I always shudder at the bastard half-breed (mainstream?) Anime such as Naruto that feels like it was essentially manufactured for American seventh graders with learning disabilities.

I'm imagining there's a lot of hate over NG:E because everyone expects it to be a giant robot duel thing. Then the ask questions like: Why are the robots bleeding? Why do 14yr olds pilot them? Why does everyone have shields? Why don't they just blow the angels up with big lasers instead of making robots?

I've heard them all.

Every one of those questions is answered either in the show or the outrageously MA-rated movie that takes place during the psychological bit at the end of the show.
Edit: While I whole-heartedly reccommend the show, I wouldn't reccommend the movie.

Short and Simple - Animay has become Eay.

NuclearJonJon:
Watch Death Note then come back :)

iv seen it. not only did it run out of good story about 7 episodes in its pretty much yaoi. its a bad story marred even worse by a writer who wanted to milk the money as long as possible

boyvirgo666:

NuclearJonJon:
Watch Death Note then come back :)

iv seen it. not only did it run out of good story about 7 episodes in its pretty much yaoi. its a bad story marred even worse by a writer who wanted to milk the money as long as possible

Why do you say that? Saying something has a bad story or bad writing is not sufficent nor particularly intelligent criticism.

Shadedblade:

PurpleRain:

Kinetic_man:

PurpleRain:
The gorgeous emotional drama that is Neon Genesis?

Actually a LOT of people all over the world really hate Evangelion, but I do see the point you're trying to make here. Although I myself like many Anime series/movies of old and new such as Eva, Lain, GitS (movies and the series), even Ergo Proxy, I always shudder at the bastard half-breed (mainstream?) Anime such as Naruto that feels like it was essentially manufactured for American seventh graders with learning disabilities.

I'm imagining there's a lot of hate over NG:E because everyone expects it to be a giant robot duel thing. Then the ask questions like: Why are the robots bleeding? Why do 14yr olds pilot them? Why does everyone have shields? Why don't they just blow the angels up with big lasers instead of making robots?

I've heard them all.

Every one of those questions is answered either in the show or the outrageously MA-rated movie that takes place during the psychological bit at the end of the show.
Edit: While I whole-heartedly reccommend the show, I wouldn't reccommend the movie. Every one of the characters that you may have liked is butchered in the movie. Everyone either turns into an evil bastard, or is killed off.

And that is precisely what makes the ending so good. Its hurtful and it fills you with rage and depression.

Easykill:

But Death note takes the cake.

I think you mean it takes the chip. AND EATS IT

Fredrick2003:

Shadedblade:

PurpleRain:

Kinetic_man:

PurpleRain:
The gorgeous emotional drama that is Neon Genesis?

Actually a LOT of people all over the world really hate Evangelion, but I do see the point you're trying to make here. Although I myself like many Anime series/movies of old and new such as Eva, Lain, GitS (movies and the series), even Ergo Proxy, I always shudder at the bastard half-breed (mainstream?) Anime such as Naruto that feels like it was essentially manufactured for American seventh graders with learning disabilities.

I'm imagining there's a lot of hate over NG:E because everyone expects it to be a giant robot duel thing. Then the ask questions like: Why are the robots bleeding? Why do 14yr olds pilot them? Why does everyone have shields? Why don't they just blow the angels up with big lasers instead of making robots?

I've heard them all.

Every one of those questions is answered either in the show or the outrageously MA-rated movie that takes place during the psychological bit at the end of the show.
Edit: While I whole-heartedly reccommend the show, I wouldn't reccommend the movie. Every one of the characters that you may have liked is butchered in the movie. Everyone either turns into an evil bastard, or is killed off.

And that is precisely what makes the ending so good. Its hurtful and it fills you with rage and depression.

it's ironic that anime is very popular over here, but japan(the creators of anime.) are pretty xenophobic.

It's all gone wrong!! The shows are bad, cheesy, horrible, and complete %#$@! But their movies are fine.