Gone Gonzo Posts: 2070 Joined: 23 Jan 2008 | |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1077 Joined: 26 Apr 2008 | Wow. You really hated this film, didn't you? Great review. It's crossing into rant territory a little, but that's okay because you manage to keep a solid pace and back up your points well. Entertaining read. Great job. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 847 Joined: 3 Aug 2008 | Muahaha I love this review! Entertaining, brief but to the point and god damn did they screw this up! Haha thanks for the review Caliostro! -Joe |
On the Record Posts: 5491 Joined: 13 Aug 2008 | Yeah, I had heard that a bunch of people hated this movie. But man, you make it sound like it was Max Payne without the Max Payne. |
Press Junketeer Posts: 477 Joined: 13 Dec 2008 |
it IS Max Payne with out Max Payne in it because some fucker cast Marky Mark as him P.S. if you got that reference The Escapist should give you a badge |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 801 Joined: 29 Apr 2008 | a good rant, but you seem to be trying to hard to sound like yatzee. dunno if this was intentional or not. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1015 Joined: 11 Jan 2009 | I almost completely agree with this review....the only part I don't agree with...oh wait I can't the movie was pretty horrible. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1198 Joined: 2 Oct 2008 | Max Payne is just like Hitman... Both movies are so stock that they could be any action movie EVER! |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 528 Joined: 25 Apr 2008 | Awesome review, I just watched the film, and I must say I agree with you on pretty much everything. Will look forward to seeing more, good job :) Thumps up. |
Anonymous Source Posts: 8 Joined: 12 Jan 2009 | When I first heard they were making a Max Payne movie, I naively got excited. However, the more and more I read about it, the sadder I got. I haven't seen it, but I'm not feeling "Good Vibrations". You'd think they would have learned from the BloodRayne movies? Oh, the humanity... |
Beat Writer Posts: 146 Joined: 10 Sep 2008 | I couldn't watch more than 30 minutes of this crap! I loved Max Payne, it was one of my favorite XBOX games. Ludacris, really? He had no business even being NEAR this movie. But as for Mark, he has the look but he didn't really pull off the bad assery that is Max. |
BANNED Posts: 2513 Joined: 3 Dec 2008 | My problem is that Max Payne is a film noir parody. The movie missed that point like an absolute champion. User was banned for: The artist in thee. (Permanent) |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1602 Joined: 13 Oct 2008 | I thought it was pretty bad. I'm just happy that I didn't waste the money seeing it in a theater. When will a video game movie get it right? |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 770 Joined: 7 Jan 2008 |
Actually, the point is that Max Payne never should have been a movie exactly because of that. While you could certainly make a nice Action Flick out of Max Payne, i don't think the very essence of the game (mainly the art style, the comic/movie references, the bizarre humor and the contrasting tragic scenes) could not be translated well and would look very arkward on screen. (And now give us Max Payne 3, pleaase) |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 878 Joined: 19 Aug 2008 |
I would respectfully disagree. Both of those movies are buried somewhere in the middle of my mental movie reviews, maybe a little lower on the list. Sure, Max Payne the game was a no-holds-barred action fest, but so utterly ridiculous that you can't make a movie based on that, so they chose to do it primarily on the story. The storytelling was drawn out, sure, but I didn't think it was bad. Marky Mark was actually cast well; I predicted he would get considered for it. But seriously...fucking Ludacris??? Hitman reminded me of the Bourne movies, though with a slower, more deliberate approach than Matt Damon's frantic planning. And really, isn't that what the Hitman games are all about: slowly approaching your target, finding the best way to pull it off without being seen, and slipping away? Besides, the rooftop sniper scene pretty much defined badass. |
Press Junketeer Posts: 383 Joined: 18 Jan 2008 |
Yeah, approaching the target in order to start a gun battle in a middle of a club, is the definition of stealth. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1198 Joined: 2 Oct 2008 |
Hitman is nothing like the Bourne movies, other than the idea that someone is being chased by someone else. The movie was full of pointless action that made no sense to the idea of what the Hitman games were all about; STEALTH. And the rooftop sniper scene pretty much defined badass? Were you watching the same movie I was because I don't think you were. The biggest difference has to be that the Bourne movies were incredible, intense action packed thrillers that had me on the edge of my seat the entire movie. Was Jason going to get caught? What was all this conspiracy stuff? Did Bourne just kill a guy with a book?! Could these movies get any better?!? With Hitman, I always knew he wouldn't get caught, mainly because i've seen that movie before, except it wasn't called Hitman. Come to think of it, i've seen that movie many many times before. Hitman is nothing more than a stock action movie with the name Hitman (check out my review of that movie). Max Payne is the same thing, a stock revenge movie with the name of a video game. Hitman was nothing like the game it was based off while Max Payne was TOO much like the game it was based off of but without the fun gameplay and incredible looking graphic novel cutscenes with the great voice acting. God, now I think i'm going to have to review the Max Payne movie. |
Paperboy Posts: 19 Joined: 13 Jan 2009 | I didn't think it was that bad. I thought the use of demons as the drug took over was kick ass. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2863 Joined: 14 Jun 2008 | Quite frankly, I like rants, I like making them and I like agreeing with correct rants. This, rant was spot on, good work, sir. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1634 Joined: 11 Jan 2009 | Why do movies when they base it off games insist of changing details all the time? I guarentee if they stuck to the story in the game exactly it would have been much better. |
Press Junketeer Posts: 379 Joined: 13 Jan 2009 | I don't understand some of the hype that goes into video game movies, chances are you know you will like it when you see the first commercial because you are either a "fanboy" of the series of games, or you like the idea. You shouldn't let someone change your opinion on a movie. DISCLAIMER: Sorry if I offended anyone with my use of fanboy. |
Paperboy Posts: 30 Joined: 26 Dec 2008 | The original game was amazing, shame they crapped all over it with Mark Wahlberg. He manages to be out-acted by a plastic potted plant in The Happening. So considering that he was a terrible casting for Max. |
On the Record Posts: 5624 Joined: 14 Sep 2008 | I knew it. I'm a Hitman fan, watched the Hitman movie... Was average. Not a complete failure, but could've been much better. Can't imagine how bad must the Max Payne film be. Guess I should take same PAYNEkillers and watch it, no? |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 676 Joined: 16 Aug 2008 | I haven't seen this movie, but I like Mark Wahlberg. He's a good actor. I would like to see this movie just out of intrest. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1084 Joined: 5 Jan 2009 | I'm sorry, but the title of this thread has got to be the laziest pun on earth. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2396 Joined: 30 Aug 2007 | The last 25 minutes of the film are good, and I have to commend the "shakey" camera work, similar that seen in the legendary firefly, but with people worked exceptionally well. But the rest of the film is slow and dreary. It stretches out the obvious story line for over an hour, giving you little to no reason for liking Payne. Sure, his wife & kid were murdered 3 years ago, but he's a total ass! Obnoxious, arrogant with a constant look on his face as if he's contemplating a good fart. |
Beat Writer Posts: 182 Joined: 16 Jan 2009 | Max Payne 1 and 2 are in my top 10 favorite games. It wasn't everything it could have been, but it wasn't a bad movie. There's several worse movies that get praised that I think would better justify discussion. Mark Wahlberg was probably the only actor in the business that could pull Max Payne off, and he pulled it off very well. Mila Kunis was the complete opposite though, just awful. I think the movie would have been better off without Mona Sax at all than Mila Kunis acting as her, though she basically had no part in the movie anyway. |
Copy Clerk Posts: 110 Joined: 3 Aug 2008 |
I see what you did there ;) Good review mate Perhaps Tom Jane of The Punisher would've been a better Max...they're very similar roles :P |
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Honestly, who didn't see this coming? With the current trend of converting any franchise into a movie we all knew it was a matter of time before they picked up one of the most iconic games in the history of videogames. Max Payne was a beautiful game, with an epic story that already came with a very cinematic feeling to it... But can the movie truly live up to the icon? Can it live up to the Max Payne legacy?
The answer is a resounding and heartbreaking no.
I don't even know where to begin... There are just so many things wrong with it... Don't get me wrong, I wanted to like it... I really did... But I can't, I just can't. When someone decides to do a movie based on something as epic as Max Payne, you know there's a high chance they'll be forced to cut something, or just miss something, or that they'll screw up a lot, but to miss it entirely is a feat. I don't know what game John Moore played, but it isn't the same I did.
Remember how Max Payne was an ACTION game? A third person shooter that only slowed down when you pressed the mighty "bullet time" key? Well it seems all of that was thrown in a fucking bin, and then burned for good measure... While most videogame/comic based movies are generally criticized for having too much action and not enough story, that is not a piece of criticism that can be leveled with Moore's Payne... Oh no... Strangely, for a movie based on an action-oriented third person shooter there is almost no action. There is more action in a nursing home. There are approximately 15 whole minutes of action in a 100 minute movie. The movie just doesn't flow, it drags itself, begging you to have mercy and put it down... A Max Payne movie should have a pacing close to, say, a Die Hard movie, not of a goddamn chess match. It helps that the geniuses behind this conversion decided to take the game's "first person story telling" and mangle it into your average "third person mode".
And 1 whole bullet time sequence? I mean, seriously? Over hour and a half of a movie based on an action game that lived of "bullet time" and all you managed to squeeze out was ONE contrived sequence? It's not even a good one either. Bullet time is supposed to simulate a state of extreme "awareness", reflexes so quick time seems to move slower, not fucking clairvoyance...
But if only "pacing" was the biggest problem in the movie, I could cope with it. I could give in for the sake of Max Payne's brilliant storyline... If only... It seems somewhere along the process of manhandling this piece of art Moore thought that much like the action, story was also overrated and did away with it. Remember the game? Remember how everything gradually escalated smoothly from what originally seemed like a junky's B&E gone wrong into a massive conspiracy? Remember thinking it was awesome? Well fuck you then, says Moore. Once again the movie fails to tackle the essential in favor of the superfluous. The majority of the movie revolves around the "crazy junky" part, suddenly exploding into a very poorly explained conspiracy in the last minutes, like they suddenly realized they were out of time and had gone nowhere yet.
And to top it all off like a rancid cherry on top of a cake made of pus this movie is a good example of some of the worst casting I have seen in a long while. Leaving aside the "dead horse" that Jim Bravura was an Italian, white, fat guy and not an American, thin, black man, whoever picked Mark Wahlberg to be Max must have suffered from a brain hemorrhage or 10. Wahlberg manages to pull a Keanu Reaves better than Keanu could. He keeps the one same "wtf is going on?" expression on his face throughout the whole movie, whether he's looking at a gun, a naked woman or people firing at him...
In fact if you're looking for anything that relates this to the game, any "classical" game scenes in the movie (like the baseball bat beatdown) then you can forget about it. You'll find none.
In essence, this is Max Payne without the brilliant story telling, action scenes, bullet time sequences, great characterization... In fact, if I can't recommend this movie for general public I especially can not recommend it to a Max Payne fan as it'll hurt twice as much: once because it's a terrible movie, and twice because of what they did to a brilliant and beloved franchise.