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Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 858 Joined: 9 May 2009     | |
Muckraker  Posts: 269 Joined: 17 Apr 2009     | hey, this guy called 05rutterb has challenged me, but hasn't set any orders. It's been at least half an hour and he still hasn't set any orders. Since I can't retreat at this point, I'm caught in limbo. Help? |
On the Record  Posts: 5199 Joined: 13 Dec 2008     |
You can only wait for him, sorry, but that's all you can possibly do here. He only has half an hour left anyway so if there's no orders by then, then you'll be free to fight someone else anyway. |
Muckraker Posts: 269 Joined: 17 Apr 2009 | I've waited another couple of hours. I'm confident in my army being able to beat his, so I don't mind if the only way pout is to fight him. I just can't figure out how to move on... |
Beat Writer  Posts: 126 Joined: 16 Apr 2009     | For some reason there is no longer a limit on how long someone can make someone else wait while they select their moves. Case in point, I was challenged yesterday by someone whose army had a single unit, and has no previous records in anything. (No battles, no posts, etc.) This poster's name is "qecman", and I am reasonably certain that this is deliberate, so please resolve this, because until he does something, (Which he won't...), I can't do anything. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 111 Joined: 21 Mar 2008    | When I look at the stats, mine, and other peoples stats, it's all 0 everywhere, 0 battles fought, 0 wins, losses and retreats, same with units lost, killed and treasure, and we all joined Dec 31, 1969 19:00 and none were active. |
Paperboy  Posts: 38 Joined: 4 May 2009     | where is home base? it keeps saying i cant do this, coz im not at home base |
Muckraker  Posts: 239 Joined: 5 Nov 2008   | Someone called Calzac24 has been challenging me for over 12 hours now, without issueing any orders. It sould have cut off the challenge after 10 minutes if no orders were issued, so I know somethings wrong. I can't do anything while it stays like this. |
Muckraker Posts: 269 Joined: 17 Apr 2009 | That's three of us now... |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 683 Joined: 29 Apr 2008     | I have been beating up on the bots when I realized that my bank was going down. In all my battles I wound up with more money gained than I had lost. See this battle as a typical example: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/profiles/genrewars/view_battle?b=78711 I did the math and found not only had the money I earned for destroying units not been added to my bank, but I had lost money just for engaging in battle. This money loss was calculated before I had replenished my army. |
Beat Writer Posts: 126 Joined: 16 Apr 2009 | I am experiencing the same problem as Hamster, only I have noted that it doesn't matter which bot I fight, I still lose money, even if I win. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1582 Joined: 3 Dec 2008    | I've fought about 8 bots (to begin with I wasn't aware I was fighting bots, I was curious about the quick reply time but I thought screw it I'm winning) I won every fight but in total have lost around 16,000 (don't know exact numbers). Also should bots really count towards your loss/wins I think they're a good idea so you can make money but it makes badges like Unconquerable seem pointless because surely you can just keep fighting easy bots, it makes my unconquerable badge feel empty. |
Copy Clerk Posts: 111 Joined: 21 Mar 2008 | I lost over 50,000 before realizing fighting bots didn't give any money. I think the bots are a good idea, but they should be seperate from real players, and also, fighting bots shouldn't give any statistics and should be free (replenishing an army after fighting a bot should be free or automatic to the status of the army before the fight). Once you find the strategy to win against a bot, it becomes way too easy to have fake statistics and win some specifics badges. I don't know if it's possible to remove what had been done (wins/losses vs bots) and give back the missing money to people, but I think that's how the bots should work, and if it stays like it is now, then it's better to not have them at all. |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 456 Joined: 12 May 2009    | Yeah I noticed that I lose money or rather didn't gain any sometimes after fighting bots (either easybot etc. or the list under send scouts). It's weird because I sometimes gain money and others none even if it says you have won 20,000 etc. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2639 Joined: 28 May 2009   | I agree that the amount of cash won is confusing. The battle report might say that you won $10.000 but when you hire new troops, it looks like the maximum amount of money you really git is enough to re-buy the units you lost. It just happened to me a couple of times that I won a battle, "won" $7.000 but actually didn't get any money at all, resulting in only the loss of a couple of precious troops. *Update* I'm not sure but I get the feeling that the first couple of times you win against a specific npc that you do actually win said amount, but that after that, you reach a stale-mate or even don't get any money at all. There's an npc called Xeno that doesn't appear on the list but that you can find on the "Issue challange" dropdown. You should be able to test this by fighting Xeno since normally you didn't fight him before. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2639 Joined: 28 May 2009 |
It looks like the only method of not losing money against the bots is by completely removing at least one type of troops. If you do this, then you don't loose any money, but you don't gain any either. You will gain badges of course, over time. |
Web Developer  Posts: 2696 Joined: 12 Nov 2002     |
The bots were following the same rules as people. If you battle a person too many times in a row during a period of time, then you stop earning money as to not battle your friend just for money. Unfortunately, if you had the GW message box popup disabled you didn't get this warning. The bots, however, decided they didn't like that rule and have started paying out no matter how many times you fight them. So you should be able to kick bot butt and receive your just rewards now. |
Press Junketeer Posts: 456 Joined: 12 May 2009 | Ah that explains it. I didn't mind if only 50% of the time you received a reward it was just the fact that I did not know about it. |
Web Developer Posts: 2696 Joined: 12 Nov 2002 |
Understandable. We are working on revamping the message windows to help the visibility of the information and not be annoying at the same time. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2944 Joined: 4 Oct 2008   | My loot count is currently over 100,000, and I still haven't received the corresponding Genre Wars badge relating to it; is my profile wrong, do I have to wait a day, or is something else going on? |
Press Junketeer Posts: 456 Joined: 12 May 2009 |
Thanks. |
Web Developer Posts: 2696 Joined: 12 Nov 2002 | The annoying popup box is gone for good. Messages will appear just under the menu. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2944 Joined: 4 Oct 2008 |
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Web Developer Posts: 2696 Joined: 12 Nov 2002 |
You've got mail! In fact, many players got mail. This bug has been fixed. Retro badges awarded! |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2944 Joined: 4 Oct 2008 | Thanks, Delmar. :) While we're on the subject of Genre Wars, do you think you can tell me about these 'specialty' E-Bots? I've heard about one of them, it's apparently named Fumo or Fuma or something like that....do you know anything about that? |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 494 Joined: 5 Mar 2009   | The Alien UFO claims it has an epic offense, and an epic defense. However, I think it only has a mighty offense. I recently looked at the battles of smartmoose and Lord Azrael and I noticed their units with an epic offense were able to kill 20+ units a round on the opposing side with an epic defense. The UFO can only kill 10-13 units a round that have an epic defense. As for units with a mighty defense, theirs can kill about 30 a round while the UFO can only kill about 20 a round. So either someone misprinted the offense of the UFO or the UFO is supposed to have an epic offense but has only a mighty offense. |
Press Junketeer Posts: 494 Joined: 5 Mar 2009 | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/profiles/genrewars/view_battle?b=88014 I wasn't aware the e-bots were able to choose whether or not they attack. I'm still having trouble believing it says "Todd the T1000's are ordered to attack, but nothing happens!" |
Beat Writer  Posts: 215 Joined: 3 Feb 2009 | Its strange, I passed 100 battles yet got no badge... |
Press Junketeer Posts: 494 Joined: 5 Mar 2009 |
Retreats don't count. |
Time Lord  Posts: 10120 Joined: 13 Feb 2008    | Everytime I go into a match I get I lose money and units but don't receive any mails or details. |
Beat Writer Posts: 215 Joined: 3 Feb 2009 | Then only seven more to go! |
Press Junketeer Posts: 494 Joined: 5 Mar 2009 |
That happened to me last time you challenged me; lost money and units and i didn't get a message. |
Copy Clerk Posts: 111 Joined: 21 Mar 2008 | I got a similar error message 7-8 times in the last 2 weeks but for me, the entire site was down: Fatal error: Database Error: Connection Failed in /sixpack/web/global/classes/class.db.mysql.inc on line 74 |
Web Developer Posts: 2696 Joined: 12 Nov 2002 |
Looking into this. I think its the anti-evil code we have in place :)
This was actually related to another issue, not Genre Wars.
Thanks I will see what Todd is up to.
I will double check the numbers on this.
Several bots will appear in the list such as Todd the T1000, Fuma, Rex, and Carrie (all I can think of off the top of my head). They will randomly show up in the list only when not enough players are in the list. These bots will always be the same faction everytime (somewhat themed - like Todd is always Robots). They also are always the same level of difficulty. Other than that they act like the e-bots that you can always click on. More bots will be showing up over time, with different tricks to challenge you with. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2944 Joined: 4 Oct 2008 |
Sounds great! Thanks a lot for the info. |
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I have a suggestion, when using the "Scout" search bar maybe there could also be a button underneath that lets you find players roughly your level. That would make matches a lot more fair.
Also if you have a really abysmal record of battles you should be able to carry out loans on purchasing units. I know you can reset factions but you still keep your badges and Profile so it is possible to use loans if your doing terribly enough. And to balance it out the player would have to pay it off a little bit each round (or all if they want) since the loan would probably net them an easy victory they would have tons of momney to pay it off eventually. There should also be a limit to what kind of units you can puurchase so they aren't TOO powerful.
Hope that helps!