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Gone Gonzo
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Joined: 14 Jan 2009

Yeah, I'm getting the errors too, and now it seems that genre wars is down completely.

Pulitzer Laureate
Posts: 803
Joined: 2 Dec 2008

When this comes out of beta, could you make it so that members of the same faction can't attack each other? It makes no sense and completely goes against the point of the game, as well as making it feel like you're not actually part of a faction.

Pulitzer Laureate
Posts: 743
Joined: 7 Nov 2006

Internet Kraken:
"GodsOneMistake eliminated 1 unit without a loss.
Decisive Victory! GodsOneMistake earns a bonus of $828 in cash.
Internet Kraken gains $16600 in cash, GodsOneMistake gains $7023 in cash"

I find it weird that I lost because they killed my weak bait squad. I dispatched more units and had a much higher profit gain. Maybe the conditions for victory should be altered.

This is what I was talking about. It would seem you earned more than twice as much cash as he did, and yet he had a DECISIVE victory? Umm.. sure...

I bet you walked away from that encounter in much better shape than he

On the Record
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Joined: 18 Mar 2009

Taerdin:

Internet Kraken:
"GodsOneMistake eliminated 1 unit without a loss.
Decisive Victory! GodsOneMistake earns a bonus of $828 in cash.
Internet Kraken gains $16600 in cash, GodsOneMistake gains $7023 in cash"

I find it weird that I lost because they killed my weak bait squad. I dispatched more units and had a much higher profit gain. Maybe the conditions for victory should be altered.

This is what I was talking about. It would seem you earned more than twice as much cash as he did, and yet he had a DECISIVE victory? Umm.. sure...

I bet you walked away from that encounter in much better shape than he

This has actually happened several times since I made that post. Each time because they killed my weak bait unit.

Gone Gonzo
Posts: 4642
Joined: 25 Feb 2008

In the last 20 minutes I've gone from 80'000+ cash total (roughly 20k units/60k on hand) to 15220 (total value of my units/0 on hand).

Haven't fought any battles, have been in base, not doing anything, won the last (several) battles without spending much at all. What gives?

#Edit: Money has re-appeared. No idea why.

Press Junketeer
Posts: 353
Joined: 30 Jul 2008

I was playing and challenged a guy, by the time I'd navigated to the next page it said I'd won and was awarded about 3k or so, (not much but still free monies) but my messages never got updated to show a record of teh battle, it's as tho it never happened at all.

On the Record
Posts: 5300
Joined: 18 Mar 2009

"Lord Hattie eliminated 1 unit without a loss.
Decisive Victory! Lord Hattie earns a bonus of $894 in cash.
Lord Hattie gains $9699 in cash, Internet Kraken gains $16180 in cash"

Come on

Pulitzer Laureate
Posts: 887
Joined: 17 Mar 2009

Servers seem to be stabilizing bit by bit. The hour long response time seems a bit much. I've been waiting on one guy's counter attack here for about ten minutes now; really gonna suck if he retreats. Another thing that bothers me is the faction unit differences. Having different classes be top tier is fine, but I don't see why only some factions get units with epic O and epic D.

Pulitzer Laureate
Posts: 709
Joined: 16 Jun 2008

Anyone else do a battle, have the results screen not load correctly then on trying to reload it be pushed back to your profile screen with it saying you retreated from the battle? I'm rather pissed at this cause despite it only being my second fight I didn't retreat and I don't want it mucking up my record further in the future.

Press Junketeer
Posts: 353
Joined: 30 Jul 2008

I'd like to make a suggestion,

When you get notice that someone is attacking you I'd like the option to surrender there and then. it'd save the time of people who are getting picked on by those waaaaaaaaay stronger then themselves and it would avoid incidents like the one i just experienced.

I was challenged by a guy and then had to wait basically 10 mins to play a round because he wouldn't finalize his attack - meaning i was stuck waiting on a guy who wasn't doing anything.

Gone Gonzo
Posts: 2082
Joined: 1 Jan 2008

Right now, I can't play at all because the game glitches when I try to engage in combat with anybody. I made sure Javascript was on, and I've tried refreshing and updating the browser, all to no avail. Any help?

Gone Gonzo
Posts: 4969
Joined: 10 Jan 2009

Sgt. Dante:
I'd like to make a suggestion,

When you get notice that someone is attacking you I'd like the option to surrender there and then. it'd save the time of people who are getting picked on by those waaaaaaaaay stronger then themselves and it would avoid incidents like the one i just experienced.

I was challenged by a guy and then had to wait basically 10 mins to play a round because he wouldn't finalize his attack - meaning i was stuck waiting on a guy who wasn't doing anything.

Agreed: the same thing keeps happening to me with the high-level players: they jump the weaklings. I would ask you guys to implement some sort of restrictions (low levels could attack high levels, but not vice versa) on this. The only thing you can do right now is get wiped out or retreat, which I despise. The distinct lack of honor on the part of some individuals is destroying the game, which is a pity, cause while I fought players in the same skill set as me, it was fun.

Press Junketeer
Posts: 353
Joined: 30 Jul 2008

scotth266:

Sgt. Dante:
I'd like to make a suggestion,

When you get notice that someone is attacking you I'd like the option to surrender there and then. it'd save the time of people who are getting picked on by those waaaaaaaaay stronger then themselves and it would avoid incidents like the one i just experienced.

I was challenged by a guy and then had to wait basically 10 mins to play a round because he wouldn't finalize his attack - meaning i was stuck waiting on a guy who wasn't doing anything.

Agreed: the same thing keeps happening to me with the high-level players: they jump the weaklings. I would ask you guys to implement some sort of restrictions (low levels could attack high levels, but not vice versa) on this. The only thing you can do right now is get wiped out or retreat, which I despise. The distinct lack of honor on the part of some individuals is destroying the game, which is a pity, cause while I fought players in the same skill set as me, it was fun.

yeah, eventually getting sick of only hugely overpowered guys challenging me (almost everyone I challenge retreats regardless of level) I took on a red. went from a 100k+army to just under 50k, and those early thousands aren't all that easy to make.

Infamous Scribbler
Posts: 553
Joined: 25 Jun 2008

from what it seems weak HORDES ARE STRONGER THAN strong SINGLES

Gone Gonzo
Posts: 1616
Joined: 16 Jan 2008

Sgt. Dante:

scotth266:

Agreed: the same thing keeps happening to me with the high-level players: they jump the weaklings. I would ask you guys to implement some sort of restrictions (low levels could attack high levels, but not vice versa) on this. The only thing you can do right now is get wiped out or retreat, which I despise. The distinct lack of honor on the part of some individuals is destroying the game, which is a pity, cause while I fought players in the same skill set as me, it was fun.

yeah, eventually getting sick of only hugely overpowered guys challenging me (almost everyone I challenge retreats regardless of level) I took on a red. went from a 100k+army to just under 50k, and those early thousands aren't all that easy to make.

As (currently) the highest level player, I'm not surprised that people are doing that. I've done it once or twice out of boredom, but usually fix my attacks quickly, at least. It will sort itself out though. Once you reach the highest level you run out of equal level people to kill. Lately we just take weaker armies again, but it should stop doing that soonish.

Muckraker
Posts: 239
Joined: 5 Nov 2008

Singing Gremlin:

Sgt. Dante:

scotth266:

Agreed: the same thing keeps happening to me with the high-level players: they jump the weaklings. I would ask you guys to implement some sort of restrictions (low levels could attack high levels, but not vice versa) on this. The only thing you can do right now is get wiped out or retreat, which I despise. The distinct lack of honor on the part of some individuals is destroying the game, which is a pity, cause while I fought players in the same skill set as me, it was fun.

yeah, eventually getting sick of only hugely overpowered guys challenging me (almost everyone I challenge retreats regardless of level) I took on a red. went from a 100k+army to just under 50k, and those early thousands aren't all that easy to make.

As (currently) the highest level player, I'm not surprised that people are doing that. I've done it once or twice out of boredom, but usually fix my attacks quickly, at least. It will sort itself out though. Once you reach the highest level you run out of equal level people to kill. Lately we just take weaker armies again, but it should stop doing that soonish.

There are few people around the higher levels at the moment, but I'm sure that once more people rise up the ranks this problem will take care of itself.
I have attacked some lower level people myself, but I always try to attack the strongest I can. (That obviously won't utterly destroy me.)

Paperboy
Posts: 28
Joined: 19 Oct 2008

Qty issues killed me for battles. :(

(That's my story and I'm sticking with it!)

Muckraker
Posts: 245
Joined: 18 Mar 2009

If people gank their units into one division and you opt to attack the empty divisions, it marks as nothing happened.

One guy who challenged me did that and confused me into defeat.

And a trivial error in the background:
The plural for Ninja is Ninja.

Web Developer
Posts: 2696
Joined: 12 Nov 2002

Internet Kraken:
"Lord Hattie eliminated 1 unit without a loss.
Decisive Victory! Lord Hattie earns a bonus of $894 in cash.
Lord Hattie gains $9699 in cash, Internet Kraken gains $16180 in cash"

Come on

Can you PM me the battle results link?

Web Developer
Posts: 2696
Joined: 12 Nov 2002

GenHellspawn:
Right now, I can't play at all because the game glitches when I try to engage in combat with anybody. I made sure Javascript was on, and I've tried refreshing and updating the browser, all to no avail. Any help?

What browser are you using? Do you have any adblocking software that might prevent the JavaScript from working?

Web Developer
Posts: 2696
Joined: 12 Nov 2002

KeyMaster45:
Anyone else do a battle, have the results screen not load correctly then on trying to reload it be pushed back to your profile screen with it saying you retreated from the battle? I'm rather pissed at this cause despite it only being my second fight I didn't retreat and I don't want it mucking up my record further in the future.

This was more thank likely due to some of the server hiccups we had, but we are checking logs out to make sure it doesn't happen again.

Pulitzer Laureate
Posts: 737
Joined: 23 Jan 2008

Alright, my earlier post in this thread was a complaint because I didn't receive 83k after battle. I decided to remove it after deciding it was no big deal, and I worked my way back. However, it just happened again, and this time I didn't get 99k I should've gotten from the battle. A little pissed off, if anyone could fix this I'd appreciate it. I'd hate to be bumped from third place again.

If they're possible to track (I have no idea), here are the matches:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/global/profiles/genrewars/view_battle?b=2687
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/global/profiles/genrewars/view_battle?b=11000

BANNED
Posts: 12958
Joined: 30 Jan 2008

I'm not recieving any money for my winnings after a battle - I'm just left with the losses to my troops. I've had to downgrade three times despite wins.

Press Junketeer
Posts: 482
Joined: 15 May 2008

you should have included Nazi army I would have pcicked them if they had Hitler with the 2 miniguns from wolfenstien 3-D.

On the Record
Posts: 5789
Joined: 9 Jul 2008

I can't get into any battles anymore. I'm in the warzone, click attack on someone, brings me to their profile, hit back, and they're still on the warzone. I just can't attack.

Pulitzer Laureate
Posts: 815
Joined: 28 Sep 2008

Could you set the game where it shows your net gain?
I know that if you lose troops, you lose the money for them, but I'm lazy and don't want to calculate it myself.

Infamous Scribbler
Posts: 599
Joined: 16 Mar 2009

Why does there appear to be no one in the warzone?

On the Record
Posts: 5300
Joined: 18 Mar 2009

Hey, some units like the Horseback samurai archer (or something like that) have really long names, so the text goes off the screen. As a result, I can't see the number of units that player is using, which is a major problem.

Web Developer
Posts: 2696
Joined: 12 Nov 2002

Sacman:
you should have included Nazi army I would have pcicked them if they had Hitler with the 2 miniguns from wolfenstien 3-D.

Send a suggestion to genrewars@themis-support.com.

newguy77:
Could you set the game where it shows your net gain?
I know that if you lose troops, you lose the money for them, but I'm lazy and don't want to calculate it myself.

LOL. Send a suggestion to genrewars@themis-support.com.

orannis62:
I can't get into any battles anymore. I'm in the warzone, click attack on someone, brings me to their profile, hit back, and they're still on the warzone. I just can't attack.

I have seen a few issues where browser caching is getting the better of people when they hit the back button.

Indigo_Dingo:
I'm not recieving any money for my winnings after a battle - I'm just left with the losses to my troops. I've had to downgrade three times despite wins.

Can you PM me or send an email to genrewars@themis-support.com with the battle result links for battles you didn't receive money?

Nox13last:
If people gank their units into one division and you opt to attack the empty divisions, it marks as nothing happened.

One guy who challenged me did that and confused me into defeat.

And a trivial error in the background:
The plural for Ninja is Ninja.

So they had like 0/0/50 for # of units and you attacked the 0 units for all rounds and they attacked you with their 50 units?

I will see if we can't do something to make sure it is obvious that the unit being attacked has armies to attack.

Pulitzer Laureate
Posts: 834
Joined: 4 Oct 2007

Taerdin:
I find it odd when I come out of a battle with not only more money than my opponent earned, but more money than the troops I lost were even worth, and he still 'wins' the battle by eliminating one of my weaker units.

I mean its probably working as intended, but its kinda funny dontcha think?

Not really, if you consider this means that your opponent was able to get access to the command area your troops are protecting.

However, I would suggest that the game make this more explicit, by slapping a *serious* penalty on your attacking effectiveness if one of your units is completely eliminated.

Web Developer
Posts: 2696
Joined: 12 Nov 2002

cptjack42:
Why does there appear to be no one in the warzone?

You might try leaving the warzone and coming back in. I see several people in the warzone.

Internet Kraken:
Hey, some units like the Horseback samurai archer (or something like that) have really long names, so the text goes off the screen. As a result, I can't see the number of units that player is using, which is a major problem.

Minimize your browser text :)

Just kidding, looking into this.

Beat Writer
Posts: 126
Joined: 25 Jan 2009

I cant seem to attack anyone. when i try i just get sent to their profile page.

Edit : seems to be working again

Gone Gonzo
Posts: 1776
Joined: 22 Mar 2009

The pop-ups that rear their heads every time you refresh at the Warzone have certainly worn out their welcome in my home...

Copy Clerk
Posts: 105
Joined: 6 Apr 2008

its annoyign having to wait for my opponent to decide what they will do before being able to accept or decline the challange. it is possible for that to be changed?

Gone Gonzo
Posts: 4969
Joined: 10 Jan 2009

Sparrow Tag:

Delmar Wynn:

Sparrow Tag:

Spudgun Man:
Been stuck on

'A person has challenged you! sit around sraching your head for a while during which time they are deciding what to do'

screen for an hour now.

Same. I suggest a retreat button before they attack?

You should sit around no longer than 10 minutes.

It's been at least an hour.

EDIT: Eh! WTF! It just reset my entire team! I didn't press a thing, and all my money and troops are gone, it's telling me to select a class again.

This happened once to me as well, but it fixed itself?!?! I have no idea, but I'm grateful it didn't mess up completely.

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