How angry are you about politics?

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I am a much angrier person than I used to be. What's ironic is that I've been known as a man who is really chill but will occasionally fly off the handle completely and punch walls until my knuckles bleed. I haven't done that in years, but over the last two years my chill has frayed badly, and now I get worked up about things much easier. And I blame politics.

I am so infuriated by the direction my country is taking that I have to fight my anger almost daily. Not in a scary wall-punching way, but in an "impotent rage that can only be turned inward" kind of way. I have nothing to do with my anger except swallow it, so I do, and it makes me feel sick. The whole process of electing Trump made me furious, and it's only grown worse since he took office. I see my democracy crumbling around me and I have no answers to my questions as to why, and it makes me insane. I have so much hate for so many people now, both for the individuals who are perpetrating this endless war on democracy, and for the faceless mass of fools who sanctioned it by voting for a madman.

My hope and faith have been eroded almost completely. I can no longer assume anyone I meet is basically decent, because they might have voted to destroy America. I can no longer believe that the self-policing built into the political system is working at all. I can no longer dismiss an obviously terrible idea as something that won't happen, because so many fucking awful ideas have already been implemented. I no longer have any confidence that there will be justice for the people who want to ruin my country, because there are so many of them that they can strangle any attempt at delivering that justice.

I'm looking at the end of what makes America great, and watching people cheer for it, and I'm just full of anger and hatred. Politics has made me a worse person. The GOP and Trump have made me a worse person.

I wonder if I'm not alone in this.

Oh, you're not.

It's amazing to think that, I dunno, 6 years ago I would've described myself as a centrist. The evangelical right has pushed me so hard left I'm almost left boggling how I had those opinions to begin with, and the utter gutlessness, indecisiveness, and utter lack of ability to take a stand by the Democrats have solidified that.

What infuriates me most is the near total lack of history people remember. Topical example: Net Neutrality. I'll hear people say "oh noes, the Internet will go back to how it was two years ago, when the FCC forced net neutrality, the horror [/smug]". But these idiots have already forgotten that the reason the FCC classified internet carriers under Title 2. See, the FCC had always regulated the internet companies like they were common carriers even though they didn't classify the companies like that. That gave us our old net neutrality. Then, 2014 rolls along, and ISPs start winning court cases saying that unless the FCC counted ISPs as common carriers, they couldn't regulate them as common carriers. That's what killed net neutrality. That's why we put ISPs under Title 2. To preserve the internet like we had prior to 2014.

That's what people forget.

But hey, we can't fund the Children's Health Insurance Program, but we were able to go through the couch cushions to fund permanent tax breaks for rich people. That's fine.

You're not alone. Though, I'd never held the US politic system in high regard, and there's a convincing argument that Trump is more of the same, or just louder, or the inevitable next step. I'm not too fussed on my own country's politicians either, but we've got relatively lucky.

I do find it tiresome when that Trump is so obviously terrible, he's not even good at pretending not to be terrible. But he keeps telling obvious lies, and his supporters lap it up and do likewise.

I'm pretty fine with Israeli politics (unless something really stupid happens), it's corrupt (like pretty much every political system) but at least I get the sense the people on top still have the survival of the country in their interest (somewhere). I can get pretty angry when it's people or other countries judging Israel by standards they don't apply for themselves, the former can get hypocritical and outright dehumanizing, the latter frequently disregards any Israel sovereignty and homes in on fairy tale solutions which only encourages more fighting rather than compromise.
For other countries I usually don't care that much except specific events, usually it's more fear for the stupidity to catch on in Israel.

It's only things like this, the sheer disgust people have for the government as it is right now, that's only making more and more people go on the political extreme. Friends that I knew who were mostly centrist or at least liberal are now straight up socialist or more; I know a few people personally that go to anti-protests and openly identify with Antifa and want communism, and after seeing the shit show that was our government and the economy for the past 10-ish years, I can't blame them. I used to just follow a few Democratic, and even some Libertarian, groups on social media and now communist and socialist ideologue pretty much fills my feed.

What really gets me though is how defensive people are about the status-quo. You can pull out facts and reasoned arguments for things like supporting Net Neutrality and why it's important, how tax cuts for the capitalist and political class will not nor ever will jump start an economy, how Obamacare did help millions of people who needed it most, and that the growing disparity of access, wealth, and information is just going to lead to a very messy conclusion that not all countries can recover from, but they don't care. They're so bought into the prosperity doctrine and the "American Dream" that they're hoping and holding for when they'll become rich "middle class" instead of trying to focus on their situation right now and wonder why they're still there.

That's what's so frustrating for me. Instead of asking for better pay, working conditions, education, or healthcare, they just think that the affluent and influential will just somehow give to them down the road out of the goodness of their hearts, or they'll somehow be able to afford something that should honestly just be a given.

Moderately angry. Mostly disappointed and frustrated.
The thing is that we approach it from different sides.

I see threats against democracy and freedoms coming mainly from Cultural-Marxists, Forced Globalists and Islam.

If absolutely forced, I could go on about how hate-speech is a silencing scare-tactic, how open-borders and no-demands welfare is a draining economic sink, how accommodating islam erodes western ideals about women/culture/politics/religion and raises crime-rates, how being thrice removed from the politicians who force laws upon ones country is akin to tyranny, etc.

About 4-5 years ago I would have called myself a liberal leftist even. Now I'm Alt-Right.
I won't even deign to post the usual disclaimers used against that label.
Modern day racists and sexists use those same terms to attack anyone they disagree with.

My president is fucking my country and people who complain about other people telling them what?s best tell me I should be happy with him and they don?t care about the people he?s hurting because they?re too busy complaining about how they?re the victims, even when their party controls the government.

I?m pretty damn pissed. I?m even more pissed that these people are complaining that people criticize them on the internet and they?re the REAL victims. Two of my best IRL friends almost had their livelihoods destroyed by that fucking tax plan, but you?re the real victim because people online disagree with you. Sure. Keep telling yourself that.

I'm pissed too.

I look at Canada's government and go "Uhhh, yes, that social stuff is all sweet and smiley, but can you actually...yaknow...do something that has an actual helpful impact? What's that, you're trying to get us to sign onto TPP again?! Goddammit what the hell, you're a moderate conservative in sheep's clothing!"

Then I look at the provincial government and I see them going "saying bonjour-hi is an irritant! Stop doing it! You MUST greet people with just 'bonjour' if you're in any kind of customer service! Stop the Bonjour-hi!" and "We must make all face covering illegal if you're providing or receiving any government service, including the bus! What, no we SWEAR it's not about muslim face-coverings and we SWEAR we're not dogwhistling for racist votes from saint-jaques-de-nulle-part!", and I shake my head and go "What the hell are you doing?! This helps no one! Don't you have more important things to fix?!"

And I see zero way to vote against any of the stuff that's going sideways in my province because any party that opposes it happens to be hardline separatist, which is a total deal-breaker for me.

And I look at the general apathy of Canadians when politics happens and I have no idea how this can get fixed.

Then I look south of the border and go:

Internet losing all protections from ISPs who WILL throttle it for maximum profit and ruin it for everyone? Check. Possibility of the effects creeping up here to Canada? Check.

Raising taxes on working people to give to those who already have too much, with the added bonus of "Oh now we have a huge deficit, we MUST cut SAVE these pesky programs that help people like medicare and social security that people have pain into their whole lives!". Check.

More senseless warmongering! Check.

An opposition party that can see that the people are angry and rather than channel that into a wave that takes back teh country...They shame and shame and shame and change nothing from the strategy that lost them the most easily winnable election in US history, because they're corrupt to the bone. Check.

Cops getting away with murder and evidence-planting and certain people screaming about how we're being unfair if we point that out. Check.

And to cap it all off, people with literal nazi flags shouting about how they want to expel all the minorities by any means they can manage marching down the street...And people not just agreeing with them, but people saying that trying to oppose them makes us worse than them. Even though one of their goons ploughed through a crowd of people. God-checking-dammit.

This is a bad political time in the west's history. :s I'm just thankful my grandparents on my mom's side chose to immigrate to Canada and not the madhouse south of the border. At least up here I can get my health problems looked at without going bankrupt and I can rest easy knowing that if I get pulled over by a cop I'm not rolling the dice with my life.

I'm not that angry. I'm mostly just sad and disillusioned. I'm feeling more and more estranged from my own countrymen and the rest of the western world. I feel like we're heading towards a horrible future and my only hope is that I'm gonna die before everything goes to hell. People are bringing about the death of human civilization and making memes about it. It's grotesque and frightening and I feel completely powerless.

Not really angry, just disappointed (I'm not American though).

It's just hard to care when so many people either voted for Trump or didn't vote at all. It's not like a super fringe took over the country, there's 1/3 of American who think Trump is doing a great job, then another 1/3 who just can't be bothered to care either way. As a whole, the country got what it deserved.

That's not entirely fair, more people voted Hillary and the republican have been supressing vote hardcore. But at the same time it was still very close.

As far as where I'm from (Canada)... meh. It's uninteresting in both way, nothing really bad is happening but nothing that special either. It's a bit too much of virtue showing and not enough interesting project and the stuff that obvious need fixing are just being ignored. But at the same time comparing ourselves with the US, it's obvious we have it good.

Vendor-Lazarus:
Moderately angry. Mostly disappointed and frustrated.
The thing is that we approach it from different sides.

I see threats against democracy and freedoms coming mainly from Cultural-Marxists, Forced Globalists and Islam.

And of course we all know that they're dangerous because there are just so many Marxists and Islamists in power, right? Seriously.

Some basic questions:

Who, exactly, are these people (names, institutions)?
Where, exactly, are they?
What evidence is there that they're representative of a systemic trend?
What evidence is there that they can achieve their goals?
What exactly is the harm that will be caused if their goals are achieved, and what evidence is there that this harm will occur?

I move between angry and despondent - angry at the way the (UK) government treats the (poorer elements of the) public, moving to despondency when I realise quite how many of the (ever so slightly less poor) members of the public can't get enough of it. I'm absolutely resolute that Iain Duncan Smith is a cunt though - I don't waver on that one at all. So's Gove.

My government is well to the right of what I'd prefer but still acceptable. In terms of economic policy we won't turn into America anytime soon though, so that's allright. I am rather worried though, about the racism and callousness and about the world wide lack of response to global warming. The thing that angers me most is the pandering from the (center)right to the racists further right. Now, while I'm somewhat quickly angered on the whole I'll manage and I think my country will manage so I'm not that persistently angry. The world though, is going backwards with Hungary, Poland and America turning to the dark side, the UK being dumb and lets not even speak of Turkey or Russia.

Im running out of display cases...

Oh, you're far from alone (as this thread demonstrates); the only question for a lot of people (in the US, at least) is how much of your anger is directed at "your side". In the past few years, I've watched a bloviating, fame-hungry, egotistical asshole sweep into power with the longest-lasting criticism of him being how, ten years earlier, he had said, essentially, that gold-digging whores love you when you're rich and famous; while the world ignored his actual criminal activities. I saw him win an election against a proselytizing, power-hungry, manipulative asshole, who thought nothing of committing national-security-violating felonies both in office and while on the campaign trail, and watched the media focus on: her wardrobe. I had countless people tell me that she deserved to win because, quote: "it's her turn" (to which, for the record, I invariably replied "no, it's Harold Stassen's").

I've seen people who lived through eight years of Reaganomics under Reagan and eight more years of it under Dubya look forward to having it yet again, with no grasp of pattern recognition. I've had people link arms and shout "black lives matter!" at me (as though I had ever asserted otherwise), and then express anger at me when I say that throwing open the border to unrestricted Syrian refugee access is not so much asking as begging for trouble. I've seen people refer to Barack Obama, who made it standing policy that being the sex in the wrong place was, in his eyes, worthy of a death sentence, called "a champion of gender equality". I've seen people blast Trump for creating a country-specific visa ban who applauded Obama when he did the same thing. I've seen the media depict moderate and even mildly conservative gatherings as "rallies of white supremacists". I have seen the attitude of modern "liberalism" shift to "I do not agree with a word you are saying, but I defend your right to say it, unless someone's feelings might be hurt, then fuck you." I have seen nearly every media outlet I knew of expose itself as hideously biased and politicized. I have had family members tell me I'd gone Republican because I said that fixing underlying social problems was a better way of helping black people than going around tearing down statues- nothing says "land of the free" quite like telling municipalities that they're only allowed to have socially acceptable artworks, right? I've had people, both liberal and conservative, ask about politics and, hearing my reply of "I think you're both becoming increasingly insane", tell me "you're sticking to a Golden Mean fallacy to make yourself sound more reasonable! The [other side] are the crazy ones!". I have had all these things happen in real life; I shudder to think what the social media world looks like these days.

Remember Bill Clinton? When the great American political scandal was a guy getting a blow job and lying about it and nobody died? When the US was an international laughingstock because of our stupid sexual skittishness instead of our wicked "let's beat the crap out of everyone" approach to international relations? I miss those days. But am I angry about politics? I turned eighteen less than a year after the September 11th attacks, and I made the mistake of doing so with a Y chromosome. Trump may be a megalomaniacal demagogue with no real political experience, but he's a lot smarter and a lot less scary than Dubya was. I was obvious Dubya wanted war with Iraq, and was going to get it, and that was where the situation stood when the government sent me my slavery registration card. Oh, they don't call it that, but that's what it is. Never before or since have I felt more anger, fear, and isolation than I did on that day when my mother and I had the great explosive fight that followed- my father, who still has the actual Vietnam-era draft card he was sent, sat silently and stared at the letter the whole time. And my friends and my peers, who were facing down the same threat? Nothing. Many wouldn't even register to vote. Unwilling to lift a political finger to defend their own lives and freedoms. I still have the card they sent me; I keep a photocopy in my wallet. I still have the application packet I requested when Dubya said the draft boards should reassemble. I keep them as reminders that this country deserves what it gets.

Compared to those days, these seem almost idyllic. Disappointed? Sure. But this isn't worth anger.

I'm rather pleased with the current state of Dutch politics. Sure the current coalition is a political cat fight waiting to happen and its a bit to far on the right when it comes to Economics but it could be a lot worse. Before the election everyone was shouting doom and gloom about the populist winning but Wilders didn't and now comes across as a politician on the edges of his (political) death.

The future may not be so bright because Wilders already has a successor who actually seems competent. I can see this guy eventually winning the election and screwing us all over for his benefit.

But the rest of the world seems to decay all around us. Americans collectively going insane and electing an inept, obviously corrupt populist fraud is the most obvious example but they aren't the only ones. In Turkey they are cheerfully throwing away their secular political system and are installing an Islamic dictator who's obviously a freak, In France Le Pen only barely didn't win which would have meant the destruction of the EU and Europe following suit, in the Philippines people thought it was a good idea to vote a self admitted serial killer into office and populism has even gained ground in Germany.

In Europe you generally see populist anti EU parties grow and we got the shadow of an increasingly aggressive Russia looming over them. A lot of these parties are very favorable to Russia while one of them even got Russian funding and the Dutch populist tries very hard to keep his funding a secret which is very suspicious when you take Le Pen's funding into account.

I wouldn't use the word angry though. I'm concerned but not personally involved enough to grow legitimately angry just yet. But I have grown disillusioned with a lot of voters. Trump is the most obvious example. Trump has never succeeded in hiding what he was, its out in the open for everyone to see so when people still champion him I can only see bad faith. Those voters know what he is but don't care. I think that the populist voters know on some level that they are dealing in a scorched earth policy where they don't care who or what gets damaged as long as the establishment is damaged with it. I view them as purposely inflicting harm just for their own self satisfaction just as the populist they vote for purposely inflict harm for their own self advancement.

altnameJag:
Oh, you're not.

It's amazing to think that, I dunno, 6 years ago I would've described myself as a centrist. The evangelical right has pushed me so hard left I'm almost left boggling how I had those opinions to begin with, and the utter gutlessness, indecisiveness, and utter lack of ability to take a stand by the Democrats have solidified that.

What infuriates me most is the near total lack of history people remember. Topical example: Net Neutrality. I'll hear people say "oh noes, the Internet will go back to how it was two years ago, when the FCC forced net neutrality, the horror [/smug]". But these idiots have already forgotten that the reason the FCC classified internet carriers under Title 2. See, the FCC had always regulated the internet companies like they were common carriers even though they didn't classify the companies like that. That gave us our old net neutrality. Then, 2014 rolls along, and ISPs start winning court cases saying that unless the FCC counted ISPs as common carriers, they couldn't regulate them as common carriers. That's what killed net neutrality. That's why we put ISPs under Title 2. To preserve the internet like we had prior to 2014.

That's what people forget.

But hey, we can't fund the Children's Health Insurance Program, but we were able to go through the couch cushions to fund permanent tax breaks for rich people. That's fine.

Can I get sources on the NN stuff? I'm tired of people bringing up that defense and i could use a counter to it on stand by.

I used to keep up with political events and watch the news regularly to see what was going on...and it just pissed me off all the time.

Now i don't watch it and i still have no power to control anything but i don't get angry about it either.

I'm at the "eat the rich" point


This is all I can think of...

No, not really angry. That doesn't really fittingly describe it.

I wouldn't really characterise it as anger. I'm not American, so I'm not directly affected by the majority of the stupidity that Trump gets up to. I get invested in American politics, but mainly because it feeds my hate-boner.

Probably the strongest emotion I feel in response to American politics is...disappointment. I admired many things about America, even as I saw much to criticise. Hillary was very far from perfect, but Donald Trump...?

What I don't understand is how so many people are able to suppress their capacity for critical thinking when it comes to a guy they perceive as being on their "side." Trump really brought that particular human failing into sharp relief, because he is a guy who has pretty much always been the worst at everything and somehow all the Republicans still held their nose and voted for him. And you've still got guys on the news and the internet defending him, and I just - ugh. I thought people were better than that. I thought people were smarter than that. How can anyone listen to this guy talk for more than five minutes and go "Yes! That is what I want to see in my President!"

erttheking:

altnameJag:
Oh, you're not.

It's amazing to think that, I dunno, 6 years ago I would've described myself as a centrist. The evangelical right has pushed me so hard left I'm almost left boggling how I had those opinions to begin with, and the utter gutlessness, indecisiveness, and utter lack of ability to take a stand by the Democrats have solidified that.

What infuriates me most is the near total lack of history people remember. Topical example: Net Neutrality. I'll hear people say "oh noes, the Internet will go back to how it was two years ago, when the FCC forced net neutrality, the horror [/smug]". But these idiots have already forgotten that the reason the FCC classified internet carriers under Title 2. See, the FCC had always regulated the internet companies like they were common carriers even though they didn't classify the companies like that. That gave us our old net neutrality. Then, 2014 rolls along, and ISPs start winning court cases saying that unless the FCC counted ISPs as common carriers, they couldn't regulate them as common carriers. That's what killed net neutrality. That's why we put ISPs under Title 2. To preserve the internet like we had prior to 2014.

That's what people forget.

But hey, we can't fund the Children's Health Insurance Program, but we were able to go through the couch cushions to fund permanent tax breaks for rich people. That's fine.

Can I get sources on the NN stuff? I?m tired of people bringing up that defense and i could use a counter to it on stand by.

Wikipedia has the general rundown, as it always does: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_neutrality_in_the_United_States#Narrowing_of_the_FCC's_authority_(2014)

I'm not happy aboot the current state, but it looks like a turnaboot is on the horizon.

I'm not angry at politics. I'm angry at idiots IN politics. The thing itself is blameless before the user.

FalloutJack:
I'm not angry at politics. I'm angry at idiots IN politics. The thing itself is blameless before the user.

this.
although i am pissed at American politics, mostly because how stupid it is and the fact that its going to spread because if the US does it its only a matter of time before everyone else does it as well.

Politics has always been the necessary evil in human society, only this time we don't assassinate people just for merely disagreeing with them, or immediately declare war just because someone was a bit power hungry.

Globally? Angry enough that I decided not to vacation in the US anymore. I cancelled plans to go to Disney World in 2016 and am very leery about a friend's offer to go to Vegas with me in the winter of 2018. I can't do much to influence how things work in the world, but I can at least take steps to avoid giving gratuitous (by my standards) amounts of money to..... well y'know.

Federally, My PM is more interested in looking good and saying the right things than he is in addressing real issues. Hard to say that I miss the Canadian Liberal Party of the 90's (who were also hella flawed) but I do.

Provincially, every single government in my lifetime has promised to make tackling provincial debt and hydro rates their priority, yet those two things keep getting bigger.

Locally, the city council is seemingly going full-Simpsons-episode and has plans on spending years and hundreds of millions of dollars digging up the city on a mass-transit train system of some kind. Yeah.

jademunky:
Globally? Angry enough that I decided not to vacation in the US anymore. I cancelled plans to go to Disney World in 2016 and am very leery about a friend's offer to go to Vegas with me in the winter of 2018. I can't do much to influence how things work in the world, but I can at least take steps to avoid giving gratuitous (by my standards) amounts of money to..... well y'know.

Federally, My PM is more interested in looking good and saying the right things than he is in addressing real issues. Hard to say that I miss the Canadian Liberal Party of the 90's (who were also hella flawed) but I do.

Provincially, every single government in my lifetime has promised to make tackling provincial debt and hydro rates their priority, yet those two things keep getting bigger.

Try to talk him into doing his gambling in Macau instead.

Hades:
I'm rather pleased with the current state of Dutch politics. Sure the current coalition is a political cat fight waiting to happen but it could be a lot worse.

Yeah, I don't know yet how this'll go wrong but I'd be very surprised indeed if the current coalition makes it through 4 years. A bad first chamber election, a conflict about medical ethics, personal animosity between Pechtold and Buma, expected electoral problems for D66, a single rogue member of parliament, all of those could break a coalition of 4 parties and minimal majority in parliament.

I agree that it could be a lot worse, though.

Pseudonym:

Hades:
I'm rather pleased with the current state of Dutch politics. Sure the current coalition is a political cat fight waiting to happen but it could be a lot worse.

Yeah, I don't know yet how this'll go wrong but I'd be very surprised indeed if the current coalition makes it through 4 years. A bad first chamber election, a conflict about medical ethics, personal animosity between Pechtold and Buma, expected electoral problems for D66, a single rogue member of parliament, all of those could break a coalition of 4 parties and minimal majority in parliament.

I agree that it could be a lot worse, though.

Well thats what I meant when I described it as a political catfight waiting to happen. It certainly doesn't seem very stable. From what I hear the personal animosity seems to be more between Rutte and Buma while the difference between Pechtold and Buma is political.

But I don't think they need to last four years, they just need to outlast the dying Wilders. The worst possible scenario is if the coalition falls when Wilders is still relevant because if both Wilders and baudet do well they could form a coalition, possible with a rogue VVD joining them once Rutte is gone.

But I predict Baudet have gobbled up the PVV by the time of the next elections.

Hades:
Well thats what I meant when I described it as a political catfight waiting to happen. It certainly doesn't seem very stable. From what I hear the personal animosity seems to be more between Rutte and Buma while the difference between Pechtold and Buma is political.

But I don't think they need to last four years, they just need to outlast the dying Wilders. The worst possible scenario is if the coalition falls when Wilders is still relevant because if both Wilders and baudet do well they could form a coalition, possible with a rogue VVD joining them once Rutte is gone.

But I predict Baudet have gobbled up the PVV by the time of the next elections.

Huh. Well, to my knowledge Buma generally doesn't get allong with other people.

Hadn't heard about the PVV dying. I sure hope the PVV crumbles but I'm not that optimistic to be honest. I'm also not sure if I find them more worrying or Baudet. Baudet seems smarter which could make him slightly more moderate or just more effective. I'd prefer them both to stay small.

edit: I thought this post was eaten by bad internet but it wasn't. Ain't that neat.

Pseudonym:

Hades:
Well thats what I meant when I described it as a political catfight waiting to happen. It certainly doesn't seem very stable. From what I hear the personal animosity seems to be more between Rutte and Buma while the difference between Pechtold and Buma is political.

But I don't think they need to last four years, they just need to outlast the dying Wilders. The worst possible scenario is if the coalition falls when Wilders is still relevant because if both Wilders and baudet do well they could form a coalition, possible with a rogue VVD joining them once Rutte is gone.

But I predict Baudet have gobbled up the PVV by the time of the next elections.

Huh. Well, to my knowledge Buma generally doesn't get allong with other people.

Hadn't heard about the PVV dying. I sure hope the PVV crumbles but I'm not that optimistic to be honest. I'm also not sure if I find them more worrying or Baudet. Baudet seems smarter which could make him slightly more moderate or just more effective. I'd prefer them both to stay small.

edit: I thought this post was eaten by bad internet but it wasn't. Ain't that neat.

Stories of how Baudet seems to be outshining Wilders in every area have been cropping up ever since the elections. Wilders also moved himself in a position where absolutely no one will work with him anymore and I can imagine his voters may be very annoyed at him never getting into a government and achieving something. They didn't have any other options but now there's a clear competitor for the populist voterbase. Those votes Baudet is predicted to get must come from somewhere and its logically they would come from his fellow populists.

Most commentators also comment on how exhausted Wilders seems to be after all this time.

I think Baudet is the bigger danger. Wilders has always been his own worst enemy because he made it so easy to dismiss him as an out of control radical. Baudet on the other hand is civil and ''charming'' and makes the effort to make coherent statements. Unlike Wilders he might actually achieve something.
Russiafillia is also a constant factor in Baudets career which is very worrying. Even MH17 is a subject Baudet happily sides with the Kremlin on.

I'm getting angrier and angrier towards globalism. Social media and mainstream media are introducing globalist crap into our culture non-stop. It seems unavoidable and unstoppable unless we turn more inwards. And oh boy is that a red button for a lot of people - so I can't help but get angry at them, now can I?

On a scale of one to ten, my anger at modern politics should be "DOOM SLAYER", but I've just been pushed so far that I can hardly find it in me to care anymore. I feel as though nothing I do matters, like my vote doesn't count. Now granted, that recent Alabama election where Roy Moore got his ass kicked is a little bit of a bright spot; but in general, it feels like everything's going to shit and the only worthwhile thing I can do is just push things further along into being even shittier so that maybe people will decide they don't want to put up with shit living anymore. But even that feels like it's going to backfire horribly.

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