Ecce homo

To those few people who are still lost on this godforsaken island of madness.

Yes, it's Jordan Peterson. No, it's not about politics the way it is being promoted here. This is 1 of answers he gave in recent Q&A to a personal question. Link is set to start 1:31:51 into the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GcU9LjuVOo&t=5511

The man is fragile as anyone else. Peterson as any of you has a button to turn you into 'snowflake' instantly.

Maybe next time you lambaste one another with 'far-right' and 'libtards', 'nazi' and 'cucks' try and see an individual not that far off from you just of different and likely in your eyes contrary opinion to yours.
On the other hand maybe you should also mature and accept that these buttons need to be pressed. You can't just get triggered and run, hide among homogenous commune of 'our side', strong arm everything out of your safety bubble. That of course, if you are ever to grow as an individual. That is an uncomfortable part of discourse. Safe space being breached, not on your terms. Having your ideas challenged. Thinking about reforming them and adapting new concepts from diversity of opinions of your 'uh-oh so hateful' but 'not always wrong' (imagine that) adversaries.

If this place is to survive it needs to become progressive again and fight off prevalent, regressive proposal, that circle jerking ad nauseum is a discussion. It is not.

Having said that,
while keeping in mind Bayesian inference
and knowing propensity of 'mind readers',
who hijacked this website.

Goodbye and good luck.
Check other Peterson's works, come challenge his ideas.
He'll get triggered. You both will learn something.

What is the point of this?

Because all I'm getting is "you should have been more respectful of my opinions", but when were you ever respectful? Do you feel you're being respectful now?

You came into a community where not everyone agreed with you. I personally didn't agree with you on a lot of things, but I never had a problem with you being here, and I don't think anyone else did either. But now it seems like you were only here because you thought everyone would come around to your way of thinking.

Do you think that makes me feel respected? Do you think that makes me feel like the time I voluntarily spent engaging with you was well spent?

Good riddance, if that's how you feel.

Jamcie Kerbizz:
Maybe next time you lambaste one another with 'far-right' and 'libtards', 'nazi' and 'cucks' try and see an individual not that far off from you just of different and likely in your eyes contrary opinion to yours.

...
Goodbye and good luck.

Well, okay.

But the only thread I saw you post in this forum, you charged in with a snide comment about someone else's opinion. Whilst that's not technically calling someone a libtard or Nazi, it's also not a constructive and respectful way to speak to people either and rather undermines what you're trying to say here.

Mostly, it's disrespectful, unconstructive and arrogant behaviour to assume moral, emotional and intellectual high ground, preach at and abuse others, and then flounce off without listening to them in return (assuming by "Goobye and good luck" you're not sticking around to discuss it). That makes your post hypocritical as well, and betrays whatever good intentions you might have had in there.

Jamcie Kerbizz:

Check other Peterson's works, come challenge his ideas.
He'll get triggered. You both will learn something.

I'd really rather not.

Even if I was ever going to watch a politics youtube video (not fucking likely) I think I've already learned all I need to know from actual news: Namely that Jordan Peterson has real issues with transpeople that he should probably try to work on.

it would be wise to remember that when looking to brandish a 'mic-drop,' one does not drop it on their face as they trip over their own self-assured hypocrisy at the door

jademunky:

I'd really rather not.

Even if I was ever going to watch a politics youtube video (not fucking likely) I think I've already learned all I need to know from actual news: Namely that Jordan Peterson has real issues with transpeople that he should probably try to work on.

Jordan Peterson is at least quite interesting. I think a problem can be that he pursues a sort of academically defensible (and potentially rigorous) psychology-based discourse... and then bastardises it with some lurid alt-right dog whistles about cultural Marxism or whatever.

I'm suspect it's more the latter that gets him the YouTube hits.

I'm confused. Is this a /flounce or not?

This thread mentions Jorden Peterson, and I like to ask something here, what are you're stances on Jorden Peterson people of the Escapist?

Samtemdo8:
This thread mentions Jorden Peterson, and I like to ask something here, what are you're stances on Jorden Peterson people of the Escapist?

Academically, I think he suffers from a problem a lot of celebrity academics suffer from, in that he is too willing to talk about things outside of his discipline and doesn't have the specialist knowledge or engagement with other scholars to back it up. For me as someone who works in conceptual history, it's particularly evident when he talks about postmodernism that he does not actually understand what he means by that word. To him, it's just code for some kind of secret Marxist conspiracy to destroy meaning which he imagines must exist for some reason.

Politically, he's Milo for grown ups. He's someone who fits into some of the "boxes" the right associates with the left, and who thus serves to deflect the allegation of being bigoted or anti-intellectual. Unfortunately, it doesn't work because despite his position, Peterson is incredibly anti-intellectual, and openly calling for academic censorship is not something people with a sincere commitment to free speech or to the university as an institution would ever do.

I appreciate Samtemdo8's attempt at making this into a topic with actual substance, serious kudos for that. However, R&P is not the place for anyone's goodbye threads.

 

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