Count Dankula is now a member/supporter of UKIP.

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I figured on posting this as a continuation of the last thread concerning Count Dankula

So what does this mean now?

Not much, I would expect? I mean, how does this change anything about his legal situation?

Not much? As in nothing? There's really no point in talking about his party switch. So he supports a very right wing party now that's all.

Considering he joined them because Twitter told him to it doesn't mean much.

That's the nazi pug guy right? Hummmm isn't the law that got him in trouble very UK? I can understand the whole fight the system things when the system is what got you in trouble, but it's a bit strange when the group you join want to give the system more power.

I might be very much misinterpreting stuff though.

Meiam:

I might be very much misinterpreting stuff though.

UKIP is a one issue party, get out of the EU. Doesn't matter how one feels about them, if the Tories do their job it shouldn't be relevant in a few months. Unless, of course, they stab the UK in the back and make referendum as meaningful as a change.org petition and make it so that no government will ever be able to be trusted to hold one again. But I doubt that'll happen, since the Tories seem to be serious about Brexit, and Corbyn, for all of his faults, is just smart enough to realize how anti-worker and anti-socialist the EU is.

I feel like most of the UKIP supporters in my area would cross the street if they saw this guy.

Puck:
I feel like most of the UKIP supporters in my area would cross the street if they saw this guy.

Rightly so, it's well known he interferes with dogs.

Sargon of Akkad and Paul Joseph Watson also joined. The latter (possibly) joked about a soft coup. I can't tell if they're shitposting or not. I kind of hope not because it would be pretty funny to see honestly.

Here Comes Tomorrow:
Sargon of Akkad and Paul Joseph Watson also joined. The latter (possibly) joked about a soft coup. I can't tell if they're shitposting or not. I kind of hope not because it would be pretty funny to see honestly.

Is Watson even British?

Also, seems membership is already up 50%. Wow.

You mean the right-winged Nazi joined a party of right-winged Nazis?

Saelune:
You mean the right-ringed Nazi joined a party of right-winged Nazis?

Calling someone who isn't a nazi, a nazi? Um ok!

WolvDragon:

Saelune:
You mean the right-winged Nazi joined a party of right-winged Nazis?

Calling someone who isn't a nazi, a nazi? Um ok!

UKIP is a party that pushes bigoted white nationalism. The guy accused of doing Nazi stuff joins a party like that? If he isn't one, he is doing a poor job of proving it.

Saelune:

WolvDragon:

Saelune:
You mean the right-winged Nazi joined a party of right-winged Nazis?

Calling someone who isn't a nazi, a nazi? Um ok!

UKIP is a party that pushes bigoted white nationalism. The guy accused of doing Nazi stuff joins a party like that? If he isn't one, he is doing a poor job of proving it.

So is every member of the UKIP are racists? Maybe some are former left leaning voters who don't like the E.U. period and see the UKIP as someone who represents their views?

Also does Count Dakula actually believe in killing jews, does he believe in any of the nazi ideology? Answer me those questions, and I'll agree with you that he's a nazi.

Making that nazi joke with the pug, as crude, tasteless and stupid as it was, doesn't make him a nazi. It's no different then the family guy nazi and jewish jokes that airs on tv.

Dankula is a moron so I'm assuming ukip is rather stupid.

WolvDragon:

Saelune:

WolvDragon:

Calling someone who isn't a nazi, a nazi? Um ok!

UKIP is a party that pushes bigoted white nationalism. The guy accused of doing Nazi stuff joins a party like that? If he isn't one, he is doing a poor job of proving it.

So is every member of the UKIP are racists? Maybe some are former left leaning voters who don't like the E.U. period and see the UKIP as someone who represents their views?

Also does Count Dakula actually believe in killing jews, does he believe in any of the nazi ideology? Answer me those questions, and I'll agree with you that he's a nazi.

Making that nazi joke with the pug, as crude, tasteless and stupid as it was, doesn't make him a nazi. It's no different then the family guy nazi and jewish jokes that airs on tv.

When you join a political party, you support that party's politics. If you vote for the racist guy, yeah, you're racist too. If you were not, why did you vote in favor of the racist? Does Mark Meechan NOT believe in those things? Cause he needs to defend himself now. Joining UKIP was the opposite of that.

Family Guy tends to actually make fun OF Nazis though.

Saelune:

WolvDragon:

Saelune:
UKIP is a party that pushes bigoted white nationalism. The guy accused of doing Nazi stuff joins a party like that? If he isn't one, he is doing a poor job of proving it.

So is every member of the UKIP are racists? Maybe some are former left leaning voters who don't like the E.U. period and see the UKIP as someone who represents their views?

Also does Count Dakula actually believe in killing jews, does he believe in any of the nazi ideology? Answer me those questions, and I'll agree with you that he's a nazi.

Making that nazi joke with the pug, as crude, tasteless and stupid as it was, doesn't make him a nazi. It's no different then the family guy nazi and jewish jokes that airs on tv.

When you join a political party, you support that party's politics. If you vote for the racist guy, yeah, you're racist too. If you were not, why did you vote in favor of the racist? Does Mark Meechan NOT believe in those things? Cause he needs to defend himself now. Joining UKIP was the opposite of that.

Family Guy tends to actually make fun OF Nazis though.

Believe it or not there are racist liberals and democrats. Sure they're not as numerous, but racist liberals do exist, don't pretend left leaning parties don't have racists in their ranks. Sure the UKIP might have racists in there, but not everyone in the UKIP is a racist. Not everyone in the republican party is a racist or bigot.

WolvDragon:

Saelune:

WolvDragon:

So is every member of the UKIP are racists? Maybe some are former left leaning voters who don't like the E.U. period and see the UKIP as someone who represents their views?

Also does Count Dakula actually believe in killing jews, does he believe in any of the nazi ideology? Answer me those questions, and I'll agree with you that he's a nazi.

Making that nazi joke with the pug, as crude, tasteless and stupid as it was, doesn't make him a nazi. It's no different then the family guy nazi and jewish jokes that airs on tv.

When you join a political party, you support that party's politics. If you vote for the racist guy, yeah, you're racist too. If you were not, why did you vote in favor of the racist? Does Mark Meechan NOT believe in those things? Cause he needs to defend himself now. Joining UKIP was the opposite of that.

Family Guy tends to actually make fun OF Nazis though.

Believe it or not there are racist liberals and democrats. Sure they're not as numerous, but racist liberals do exist, don't pretend left leaning parties don't have racists in their ranks. Sure the UKIP might have racists in there, but not everyone in the UKIP is a racist. Not everyone in the republican party is a racist or bigot.

There is a difference between having bigots, and being run by bigots. And we should make sure those bigots dont have sway.

Every Republican who supports Trump supports his views. Trump is a bigot.

Saelune:

WolvDragon:

Saelune:
When you join a political party, you support that party's politics. If you vote for the racist guy, yeah, you're racist too. If you were not, why did you vote in favor of the racist? Does Mark Meechan NOT believe in those things? Cause he needs to defend himself now. Joining UKIP was the opposite of that.

Family Guy tends to actually make fun OF Nazis though.

Believe it or not there are racist liberals and democrats. Sure they're not as numerous, but racist liberals do exist, don't pretend left leaning parties don't have racists in their ranks. Sure the UKIP might have racists in there, but not everyone in the UKIP is a racist. Not everyone in the republican party is a racist or bigot.

There is a difference between having bigots, and being run by bigots. And we should make sure those bigots dont have sway.

Every Republican who supports Trump supports his views. Trump is a bigot.

You really need to stop throwing the word bigot so much to people. Not everyone who voted for Trump supports his bigoted views. You mean to tell me, the people who voted for Obama twice and who voted for Trump are suddenly racists? We can agree that Trump is a racists, but accusing the non hardcore Trump voter, aka people who voted for him for economic reasons or just wanted a candidate who wasn't the status quo, as bigots is pushing it.

WolvDragon:

Saelune:

WolvDragon:

Believe it or not there are racist liberals and democrats. Sure they're not as numerous, but racist liberals do exist, don't pretend left leaning parties don't have racists in their ranks. Sure the UKIP might have racists in there, but not everyone in the UKIP is a racist. Not everyone in the republican party is a racist or bigot.

There is a difference between having bigots, and being run by bigots. And we should make sure those bigots dont have sway.

Every Republican who supports Trump supports his views. Trump is a bigot.

You really need to stop throwing the word bigot around to people. Not everyone who voted for Trump supports his bigoted views. You mean to tell me, the people who voted for Obama twice and who voted for Trump are suddenly racists?

Trump ran on blatantly bigoted platforms. Anyone who voted for Trump knew what they were voting for.

Voting for someone IS supporting someone! It is one of the most blatant methods of supporting someone's views! Why do I need to keep explaining how voting works!?

Saelune:

WolvDragon:

Saelune:
There is a difference between having bigots, and being run by bigots. And we should make sure those bigots dont have sway.

Every Republican who supports Trump supports his views. Trump is a bigot.

You really need to stop throwing the word bigot around to people. Not everyone who voted for Trump supports his bigoted views. You mean to tell me, the people who voted for Obama twice and who voted for Trump are suddenly racists?

Trump ran on blatantly bigoted platforms. Anyone who voted for Trump knew what they were voting for.

Voting for someone IS supporting someone! It is one of the most blatant methods of supporting someone's views! Why do I need to keep explaining how voting works!?

No! That's not how it works! I voted for Hillary Clinton, does that mean I support her war mongering, her neoliberal policies, and her corruption? No! I'd rather have her be president then Trump, but it doesn't mean I support her pro-war, pro-corruption policies. I was for Bernie first and foremost. All you're doing is generalizing people. And frankly the left needs to stop doing that, we're becoming as bad as some in the right wing tend to do.

WolvDragon:

Saelune:

WolvDragon:

You really need to stop throwing the word bigot around to people. Not everyone who voted for Trump supports his bigoted views. You mean to tell me, the people who voted for Obama twice and who voted for Trump are suddenly racists?

Trump ran on blatantly bigoted platforms. Anyone who voted for Trump knew what they were voting for.

Voting for someone IS supporting someone! It is one of the most blatant methods of supporting someone's views! Why do I need to keep explaining how voting works!?

No! That's not how it works! I voted for Hillary Clinton, does that mean I support her war mongering, her neoliberal policies, and her corruption? No! I'd rather have her be president then Trump, but it doesn't mean I support her pro-war, pro-corruption policies. I was for Bernie first and foremost. All you're doing is generalizing people. And frankly the left needs to stop doing that, we're becoming as bad as some in the right wing tend to do.

Minus the corruption, yes, yes it does. I voted for her too, which means I supported her entire views, not just the ones I liked.

You cant have it all. If you're pro-guns, and pro-LGBT, well, you have to basically decide which is more important. If you vote for Republicans to protect your guns, then clearly you do not care enough about LGBT people. If you vote left to protect LGBT rights, then clearly guns are less important to you than equal rights for LGBT people (though I think thats a good thing).

Generalizing? THATS AN ELECTION DAMMIT! We had two choices, pick one. Choose carefully cause who you pick says A SHIT TON about what is more and less important to you.

Saelune:

WolvDragon:

Saelune:
Trump ran on blatantly bigoted platforms. Anyone who voted for Trump knew what they were voting for.

Voting for someone IS supporting someone! It is one of the most blatant methods of supporting someone's views! Why do I need to keep explaining how voting works!?

No! That's not how it works! I voted for Hillary Clinton, does that mean I support her war mongering, her neoliberal policies, and her corruption? No! I'd rather have her be president then Trump, but it doesn't mean I support her pro-war, pro-corruption policies. I was for Bernie first and foremost. All you're doing is generalizing people. And frankly the left needs to stop doing that, we're becoming as bad as some in the right wing tend to do.

Minus the corruption, yes, yes it does. I voted for her too, which means I supported her entire views, not just the ones I liked.

You cant have it all. If you're pro-guns, and pro-LGBT, well, you have to basically decide which is more important. If you vote for Republicans to protect your guns, then clearly you do not care enough about LGBT people. If you vote left to protect LGBT rights, then clearly guns are less important to you than equal rights for LGBT people (though I think thats a good thing).

Generalizing? THATS AN ELECTION DAMMIT! We had two choices, pick one. Choose carefully cause who you pick says A SHIT TON about what is more and less important to you.

Then why are there black republicans? Why are there LGBT republicans. Why do minorities vote for a party that they know are against their own interests? I questioned their reasons why, but I can understand why they would vote republican.

Trump may have exposed bigoted views, but he ran on a anti-establishment platform with some of his policies being fairly on the left economic wise. Of course we know all that is bullshit and I knew better,but people in general are tired of the stautus quo and they saw Trump as someone who will be apart of the establishment. He was anti-war at first (Even more bullshit). He promised to not cut Social Security and Medicare (Even more bullshit, he has changed his stance on that).

Yes alot of people did vote for him because he is a bigot, but alot of other people voted for him because they're tired of the establishment.

And Hilary Clinton is the establishment. And I regret voting for her.

WolvDragon:

Saelune:

WolvDragon:

No! That's not how it works! I voted for Hillary Clinton, does that mean I support her war mongering, her neoliberal policies, and her corruption? No! I'd rather have her be president then Trump, but it doesn't mean I support her pro-war, pro-corruption policies. I was for Bernie first and foremost. All you're doing is generalizing people. And frankly the left needs to stop doing that, we're becoming as bad as some in the right wing tend to do.

Minus the corruption, yes, yes it does. I voted for her too, which means I supported her entire views, not just the ones I liked.

You cant have it all. If you're pro-guns, and pro-LGBT, well, you have to basically decide which is more important. If you vote for Republicans to protect your guns, then clearly you do not care enough about LGBT people. If you vote left to protect LGBT rights, then clearly guns are less important to you than equal rights for LGBT people (though I think thats a good thing).

Generalizing? THATS AN ELECTION DAMMIT! We had two choices, pick one. Choose carefully cause who you pick says A SHIT TON about what is more and less important to you.

Then why are there black republicans? Why are there LGBT republicans. Why do minorities vote for a party that they know are against their own interests? I questioned their reasons why, but I can understand why they would vote republican.

Trump may have exposed bigoted views, but he ran on a anti-establishment platform with some of his policies being fairly on the left economic wise. Of course we know all that is bullshit and I knew better,but people in general are tired of the stautus quo and they saw Trump as someone who will be apart of the establishment. He was anti-war at first (Even more bullshit). He promised to not cut Social Security and Medicare (Even more bullshit, he has changed his stance on that).

Yes alot of people did vote for him because he is a bigot, but alot of other people voted for him because they're tired of the establishment.

And Hilary Clinton is the establishment. And I regret voting for her.

Cause Ben Carson and Milo Yannibabiboop are bigots against their own kind. Why do some people stay in abusive relationships? Not everyone makes good, even when its obvious, choices.

Trump went on an anti-Obama platform. None of his policies were left-wing. At 'best' he was Libertarian, but Libertarianism is the loyal dog of corporations which Trump IS one. And Libertarians are very decidedly on the same side as Republicans.

Trump also used to think David Duke was a terrible person until suddenly he needed his and the KKK's votes and retroactively never heard of him.

He 'promised'? Oh, you mean he LIED. HE LIED like the lying liar he is.

The 'establishment' was a progressive black guy pushing equal rights.

So you wish you voted for Trump?

Saelune:

WolvDragon:

Saelune:
Minus the corruption, yes, yes it does. I voted for her too, which means I supported her entire views, not just the ones I liked.

You cant have it all. If you're pro-guns, and pro-LGBT, well, you have to basically decide which is more important. If you vote for Republicans to protect your guns, then clearly you do not care enough about LGBT people. If you vote left to protect LGBT rights, then clearly guns are less important to you than equal rights for LGBT people (though I think thats a good thing).

Generalizing? THATS AN ELECTION DAMMIT! We had two choices, pick one. Choose carefully cause who you pick says A SHIT TON about what is more and less important to you.

Then why are there black republicans? Why are there LGBT republicans. Why do minorities vote for a party that they know are against their own interests? I questioned their reasons why, but I can understand why they would vote republican.

Trump may have exposed bigoted views, but he ran on a anti-establishment platform with some of his policies being fairly on the left economic wise. Of course we know all that is bullshit and I knew better,but people in general are tired of the stautus quo and they saw Trump as someone who will be apart of the establishment. He was anti-war at first (Even more bullshit). He promised to not cut Social Security and Medicare (Even more bullshit, he has changed his stance on that).

Yes alot of people did vote for him because he is a bigot, but alot of other people voted for him because they're tired of the establishment.

And Hilary Clinton is the establishment. And I regret voting for her.

Cause Ben Carson and Milo Yannibabiboop are bigots against their own kind. Why do some people stay in abusive relationships? Not everyone makes good, even when its obvious, choices.

Trump went on an anti-Obama platform. None of his policies were left-wing. At 'best' he was Libertarian, but Libertarianism is the loyal dog of corporations which Trump IS one. And Libertarians are very decidedly on the same side as Republicans.

Trump also used to think David Duke was a terrible person until suddenly he needed his and the KKK's votes and retroactively never heard of him.

He 'promised'? Oh, you mean he LIED. HE LIED like the lying liar he is.

The 'establishment' was a progressive black guy pushing equal rights.

So you wish you voted for Trump?

A "progressive" guy who had the chance to pass single payer, and all we got was a watered down right wing plan that came from Mitt Romney. We didn't even get the public option. And Obama had a 60 senate supermajority and he had the house. Obama is not a progressive, he's a Bill Clinton moderate.

Of course he lied, he always lied. I just said he did lie didn't I?

Your crazy if you think I'll ever vote for Trump, fuck him. But Hillary has shown to be such a sore loser since the election ended. You don't think that's embarrassing. Regardless I stand by what I said. Not everyone voted for Trump is a racist, but they were fooled in the end by him, and we're suffering the consequences.

WolvDragon:

Saelune:

WolvDragon:

Then why are there black republicans? Why are there LGBT republicans. Why do minorities vote for a party that they know are against their own interests? I questioned their reasons why, but I can understand why they would vote republican.

Trump may have exposed bigoted views, but he ran on a anti-establishment platform with some of his policies being fairly on the left economic wise. Of course we know all that is bullshit and I knew better,but people in general are tired of the stautus quo and they saw Trump as someone who will be apart of the establishment. He was anti-war at first (Even more bullshit). He promised to not cut Social Security and Medicare (Even more bullshit, he has changed his stance on that).

Yes alot of people did vote for him because he is a bigot, but alot of other people voted for him because they're tired of the establishment.

And Hilary Clinton is the establishment. And I regret voting for her.

Cause Ben Carson and Milo Yannibabiboop are bigots against their own kind. Why do some people stay in abusive relationships? Not everyone makes good, even when its obvious, choices.

Trump went on an anti-Obama platform. None of his policies were left-wing. At 'best' he was Libertarian, but Libertarianism is the loyal dog of corporations which Trump IS one. And Libertarians are very decidedly on the same side as Republicans.

Trump also used to think David Duke was a terrible person until suddenly he needed his and the KKK's votes and retroactively never heard of him.

He 'promised'? Oh, you mean he LIED. HE LIED like the lying liar he is.

The 'establishment' was a progressive black guy pushing equal rights.

So you wish you voted for Trump?

A "progressive" guy who had the chance to pass single payer, and all we got was a watered down right wing plan that came from Mitt Romney. We didn't even get the public option. And Obama had a 60 senate supermajority and he had the house. Obama is not a progressive, he's a Bill Clinton moderate.

Of course he lied, he always lied. I just said he did lie didn't I?

Your crazy if you think I'll ever vote for Trump, fuck him. But Hillary has shown to be such a sore loser since the election ended. You don't think that's embarrassing. Regardless I stand by what I said. Not everyone voted for Trump is a racist, but they were fooled in the end by him, and we're suffering the consequences.

See, Obama was trying this crazy idea of working together and compromising to hopefully create a fair and united country. I mean sure, it turned out to be a bad idea and blew up in our faces, but it was with noble intention. And besides, Republicans would not have let him do it the way he would have wanted anyways. We got as much as we did because Obama was smart and fair-minded.

Obama is the first and only openly pro-LGBT SITTING President. That means way more than you realize. He did not wait till out of office, he said that shit in the middle of it.

You used his lies as a defense for voting for him. If someone did not know he was a liar, they did not know anything about him.

Sore loser? Really? THATS your criticism here? For one, Hillary was democratically elected President, but since we do not live in a Democracy, Trump was President. That's a great reason to be sore, especially since she would have kept us from becoming the shit show we are today. Maybe she is sore cause she actually gave a fuck about this country and seeing it burn to the ground hurts her deeply?

And Trump is a sore winner, which is worse. That and he is ruining this country hand over fist. We live in a world where the US President praises North Korea and demonizes Canada.

Everyone who voted for Trump voted for everything Trump stood for, which was bigotry.

I think it is more offensive to say people were 'tricked' by Trump.

I'd say that to retain logical consistency someone claiming UKIP is racist would have to admit that Labour and the Democrats are racist too, but given it's coming from someone who constantly spams the same video of an uneducated, know-nothing, openly card carrying racist to make the point, I think it goes without saying.

Saelune:

WolvDragon:

Saelune:
Cause Ben Carson and Milo Yannibabiboop are bigots against their own kind. Why do some people stay in abusive relationships? Not everyone makes good, even when its obvious, choices.

Trump went on an anti-Obama platform. None of his policies were left-wing. At 'best' he was Libertarian, but Libertarianism is the loyal dog of corporations which Trump IS one. And Libertarians are very decidedly on the same side as Republicans.

Trump also used to think David Duke was a terrible person until suddenly he needed his and the KKK's votes and retroactively never heard of him.

He 'promised'? Oh, you mean he LIED. HE LIED like the lying liar he is.

The 'establishment' was a progressive black guy pushing equal rights.

So you wish you voted for Trump?

A "progressive" guy who had the chance to pass single payer, and all we got was a watered down right wing plan that came from Mitt Romney. We didn't even get the public option. And Obama had a 60 senate supermajority and he had the house. Obama is not a progressive, he's a Bill Clinton moderate.

Of course he lied, he always lied. I just said he did lie didn't I?

Your crazy if you think I'll ever vote for Trump, fuck him. But Hillary has shown to be such a sore loser since the election ended. You don't think that's embarrassing. Regardless I stand by what I said. Not everyone voted for Trump is a racist, but they were fooled in the end by him, and we're suffering the consequences.

See, Obama was trying this crazy idea of working together and compromising to hopefully create a fair and united country. I mean sure, it turned out to be a bad idea and blew up in our faces, but it was with noble intention. And besides, Republicans would not have let him do it the way he would have wanted anyways. We got as much as we did because Obama was smart and fair-minded.

Obama is the first and only openly pro-LGBT SITTING President. That means way more than you realize. He did not wait till out of office, he said that shit in the middle of it.

You used his lies as a defense for voting for him. If someone did not know he was a liar, they did not know anything about him.

Sore loser? Really? THATS your criticism here? For one, Hillary was democratically elected President, but since we do not live in a Democracy, Trump was President. That's a great reason to be sore, especially since she would have kept us from becoming the shit show we are today. Maybe she is sore cause she actually gave a fuck about this country and seeing it burn to the ground hurts her deeply?

And Trump is a sore winner, which is worse. That and he is ruining this country hand over fist. We live in a world where the US President praises North Korea and demonizes Canada.

Everyone who voted for Trump voted for everything Trump stood for, which was bigotry.

The fact she didn't blame her horrible campaign but Russia, and James Comey only is reason enough for me to regret voting her. She ran a horrible campaign and she doesn't have the guts to admit it.
You're preaching to the choir here. Trump is a horrible person, any sane person can realize that. You have to be a hardcore Trump supporter to not admit it. Obama is a progressive on social issues, but when it comes to economic policy, he and the dems just flat out stink.It's good that he's pro-lgbt, I'm glad he came out in support of gay rights. But I rank him an D when it comes to economic policy.

Zontar:
I'd say that to retain logical consistency someone claiming UKIP is racist would have to admit that Labour and the Democrats are racist too, but given it's coming from someone who constantly spams the same video of an uneducated, know-nothing, openly card carrying racist to make the point, I think it goes without saying.

Err dumb question Zontar but who are you refering to?

Saelune:

Everyone who voted for Trump voted for everything Trump stood for, which was bigotry.

Everyone who voted Clinton hates white people.

Everyone who voted Labour hates English people.

Everyone who voted Liberal hates white Canadians.

These are all positions you hold. That isn't an accusation or an insult, it's a statement based on my assuming you are logical in your views, because it's the only thing you can possibly believe without holding two or more conflicting beliefs at the same time.

Also, stop using videos of open racist to make your point about others being bigots, it really does nothing to help your case and only harms it. Not that you didn't already know that.

WolvDragon:

Zontar:
I'd say that to retain logical consistency someone claiming UKIP is racist would have to admit that Labour and the Democrats are racist too, but given it's coming from someone who constantly spams the same video of an uneducated, know-nothing, openly card carrying racist to make the point, I think it goes without saying.

Err dumb question Zontar but who are you refering to?

Trevor Noah, he's an open racist (despite one of his parents being the race he hates. It would be like me being a raging antisemite). His being used to argue that someone else is a bigot is pretty hilarious, especially since, even if we do assume the TDS isn't clouding people's view of Trump for once, Noah is still the larger bigot. Trump, for all people can say about him, still has it somewhat open if he's actually a bigot or just an asshole (he certainly has no problem fucking women of any race), Noah, on the other hand, is unambiguously a racist and even takes pride in that fact.

Zontar:

WolvDragon:

Zontar:
I'd say that to retain logical consistency someone claiming UKIP is racist would have to admit that Labour and the Democrats are racist too, but given it's coming from someone who constantly spams the same video of an uneducated, know-nothing, openly card carrying racist to make the point, I think it goes without saying.

Err dumb question Zontar but who are you refering to?

Trevor Noah, he's an open racist (despite one of his parents being the race he hates. It would be like me being a raging antisemite). His being used to argue that someone else is a bigot is pretty hilarious, especially since, even if we do assume the TDS isn't clouding people's view of Trump for once, Noah is still the larger bigot. Trump, for all people can say about him, still has it somewhat open if he's actually a bigot or just an asshole (he certainly has no problem fucking women of any race), Noah, on the other hand, is unambiguously a racist and even takes pride in that fact.

You have a point. The irony of posting a link to a racist, to make claims against another racist. It's like racistinception?

WolvDragon:

Saelune:

WolvDragon:

A "progressive" guy who had the chance to pass single payer, and all we got was a watered down right wing plan that came from Mitt Romney. We didn't even get the public option. And Obama had a 60 senate supermajority and he had the house. Obama is not a progressive, he's a Bill Clinton moderate.

Of course he lied, he always lied. I just said he did lie didn't I?

Your crazy if you think I'll ever vote for Trump, fuck him. But Hillary has shown to be such a sore loser since the election ended. You don't think that's embarrassing. Regardless I stand by what I said. Not everyone voted for Trump is a racist, but they were fooled in the end by him, and we're suffering the consequences.

See, Obama was trying this crazy idea of working together and compromising to hopefully create a fair and united country. I mean sure, it turned out to be a bad idea and blew up in our faces, but it was with noble intention. And besides, Republicans would not have let him do it the way he would have wanted anyways. We got as much as we did because Obama was smart and fair-minded.

Obama is the first and only openly pro-LGBT SITTING President. That means way more than you realize. He did not wait till out of office, he said that shit in the middle of it.

You used his lies as a defense for voting for him. If someone did not know he was a liar, they did not know anything about him.

Sore loser? Really? THATS your criticism here? For one, Hillary was democratically elected President, but since we do not live in a Democracy, Trump was President. That's a great reason to be sore, especially since she would have kept us from becoming the shit show we are today. Maybe she is sore cause she actually gave a fuck about this country and seeing it burn to the ground hurts her deeply?

And Trump is a sore winner, which is worse. That and he is ruining this country hand over fist. We live in a world where the US President praises North Korea and demonizes Canada.

Everyone who voted for Trump voted for everything Trump stood for, which was bigotry.

The fact she didn't blame her horrible campaign but Russia, and James Comey only is reason enough for me to regret voting her. She ran a horrible campaign and she doesn't have the guts to admit it.
You're preaching to the choir here. Trump is a horrible person, any sane person can realize that. You have to be a hardcore Trump supporter to not admit it. Obama is a progressive on social issues, but when it comes to economic policy, he and the dems just flat out stink.It's good that he's pro-lgbt, I'm glad he came out in support of gay rights. But I rank him an D when it comes to economic policy.

Russia and Comey are part to blame. She ran a perfectly fine campaign. THAT WAS THE PROBLEM. We don't live in a world where being logical and decent wins elections. People wanted bigoted, arrogant, bombastic shit-flinging.

Just like Obama trying to work together with Republicans was a bad idea cause it was a good idea, so was Clinton running on a platform of actual political stances and processes.

If you rank Obama as a D, then you need a new rating system. Trump isn't even a Z.

WolvDragon:

Zontar:

WolvDragon:

Err dumb question Zontar but who are you refering to?

Trevor Noah, he's an open racist (despite one of his parents being the race he hates. It would be like me being a raging antisemite). His being used to argue that someone else is a bigot is pretty hilarious, especially since, even if we do assume the TDS isn't clouding people's view of Trump for once, Noah is still the larger bigot. Trump, for all people can say about him, still has it somewhat open if he's actually a bigot or just an asshole (he certainly has no problem fucking women of any race), Noah, on the other hand, is unambiguously a racist and even takes pride in that fact.

You have a point. The irony of posting a link to a racist, to make claims against another racist. It's like racistinception?

So you believe Trevor Noah is a racist just because Zontar says he is?

Zontar thinks Trump is a good President and thinks Trudeau is a terrible leader.

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