Hurricane Maria death toll officially upped to 2,975; Trump claims he did "a fantastic job"

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Trump doubles down on the deaths of over 2000 American Citizens being 'incredibly successful'.

I've given up trying to listen to anything Trump has to say. Hearing the same line repeated 5/6 times in a minute is particularly grating.

Now Trump is denying that almost 3,000 people have died as a result of Hurricane Maria. Who's responsible? The Democrats, for making up numbers, according to Trump.

To add to all that, Trump has diverted FEMA funding to ICE.

thebobmaster:
Now Trump is denying that almost 3,000 people have died as a result of Hurricane Maria. Who's responsible? The Democrats, for making up numbers, according to Trump.

Trump is an Idiot who does not understand that if he denies people the help they need that they will die as a result. Those who said that Trump had a 6th grade understanding were giving him far too much credit.

Thaluikhain:
To add to all that, Trump has diverted FEMA funding to ICE.

Of course because he is not capable of understanding that there was no way to give tax cuts to the 1% and be able to fund his crusades against his scapegoats without cutting necessities. None of that mattered in his own businesses, he just repeatedly declared bankruptcy and left tax payers with the bill instead so he could go spend other's peoples money on ugly tacky decor.

Hell the guy even left Puerto Rican tax payers to pay his $33 million bill from his poor decision making.

That's assuming that he cares about people dying. He's not given me much reason to think so.

thebobmaster:
Now Trump is denying that almost 3,000 people have died as a result of Hurricane Maria. Who's responsible? The Democrats, for making up numbers, according to Trump.

At this point, honestly, all the Trump supporters and/or excusers, I need you to come and help us all to explain how this man isn't an embarrassment to all Modern Civilization. How is there any apologizing for this? Any second thought or explanation?

How can 50, 100, or 1000 extra dollars in your check be worth this denigration of our mortality?

Samtemdo8:

erttheking:
The people who voted for him don?t care about brown people so he has no motive to either.

Do these former and current governors of Puerto Rico who are ethnically Puerto Rican look like Brown People to the people that voted Trump?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/Ricardo_Rossello_%28cropped%29.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/Puerto_Rican_Governor_Sila_Calderon_at_the_Pentagon%2C_Feb_27%2C_2001.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/41/PedroRossello.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f5/AGP.jpg

http://politics.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/20150917-MSPP_0027-e1443629162297-682x1024.jpg

I swear though Luis Fortuno (the bottom one) looks like a total dweeb.

Many racists do not consider Spanish, Portuguese, Italians, Greeks, some French as being the same as they are either, not unlike how they separate Jewish people even if they appear white:

The Nazis regarded central/southern Italians, Spanish, Portuguese, southern French, and Greeks as sharing a similar origin with Germans from ancient Indo-Aryan migration, but being almost purely of a distinct so-called Mediterranean race.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism_and_race

SO yes, you can have light skin and not be considered " white" by many racists, especially the neo Nazis that were marching through the streets in the US. They do not consider people from Spain to be "white" either. Yes, these people are idiots and that is why they elect idiots.

Lil devils x:

Samtemdo8:

erttheking:
The people who voted for him don?t care about brown people so he has no motive to either.

Do these former and current governors of Puerto Rico who are ethnically Puerto Rican look like Brown People to the people that voted Trump?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/Ricardo_Rossello_%28cropped%29.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/Puerto_Rican_Governor_Sila_Calderon_at_the_Pentagon%2C_Feb_27%2C_2001.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/41/PedroRossello.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f5/AGP.jpg

http://politics.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/20150917-MSPP_0027-e1443629162297-682x1024.jpg

I swear though Luis Fortuno (the bottom one) looks like a total dweeb.

Many racists do not consider Spanish, Portuguese, Italians, Greeks, some French as being the same as they are either, not unlike how they separate Jewish people even if they appear white:

The Nazis regarded central/southern Italians, Spanish, Portuguese, southern French, and Greeks as sharing a similar origin with Germans from ancient Indo-Aryan migration, but being almost purely of a distinct so-called Mediterranean race.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism_and_race

SO yes, you can have light skin and not be considered " white" by many racists, especially the neo Nazis that were marching through the streets in the US. They do not consider people from Spain to be "white" either. Yes, these people are idiots and that is why they elect idiots.

Ironically it was the Mediterranean peoples who ruled all of Europe and deemed those "white" Germanic/Celtic peoples as filthy uncivilized barbarians, the Germanics in particualr were the "immigrants" of then.

Samtemdo8:

Lil devils x:

Samtemdo8:

Do these former and current governors of Puerto Rico who are ethnically Puerto Rican look like Brown People to the people that voted Trump?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/Ricardo_Rossello_%28cropped%29.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/Puerto_Rican_Governor_Sila_Calderon_at_the_Pentagon%2C_Feb_27%2C_2001.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/41/PedroRossello.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f5/AGP.jpg

http://politics.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/20150917-MSPP_0027-e1443629162297-682x1024.jpg

I swear though Luis Fortuno (the bottom one) looks like a total dweeb.

Many racists do not consider Spanish, Portuguese, Italians, Greeks, some French as being the same as they are either, not unlike how they separate Jewish people even if they appear white:

The Nazis regarded central/southern Italians, Spanish, Portuguese, southern French, and Greeks as sharing a similar origin with Germans from ancient Indo-Aryan migration, but being almost purely of a distinct so-called Mediterranean race.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism_and_race

SO yes, you can have light skin and not be considered " white" by many racists, especially the neo Nazis that were marching through the streets in the US. They do not consider people from Spain to be "white" either. Yes, these people are idiots and that is why they elect idiots.

Ironically it was the Mediterranean peoples who ruled all of Europe and deemed those "white" Germanic/Celtic peoples as filthy uncivilized barbarians, the Germanics in particualr were the "immigrants" of then.

Actual History is irrelevant to those promoting this nonsense. They have no interest in the truth, as they want to promote their "alternative facts" instead and create a reality that fits their narrative. That is why this is so dangerous, they create a fiction and promote it as truth until they have masses of people who believe them. Trump and his supporters could care less about truth or reality as they are just making it up as they go along to promote whatever agenda they have at the time.

Trump didn't want to spend money on or designate the needed resources to Puerto Rico, so he could care less how many people actually died as a result and will invent his own "alternative facts" to promote why it is more important to spend the money on ICE than to save lives of Americans that he does not see as being "Americans". He has already shown repeatedly he has no use for the actual truth. Neither do his supporters who promote race superiority BS.

God damn it.

I want to actually post these tweets here in case people are just not motivated to check the links, because Jesus Christ. You gotta read them to believe them. Every time I think this man has hit rock bottom, he digs deep within himself and finds a new way to be terrible.

Just fucking impeach him already, America. This isn't even a disgrace anymore. There's nothing left to disgrace.

bastardofmelbourne:

I want to actually post these tweets here in case people are just not motivated to check the links, because Jesus Christ. You gotta read them to believe them. Every time I think this man has hit rock bottom, he digs deep within himself and finds a new way to be terrible.

It doesn't matter, does it? His supporters either don't notice, don't care, or don't question what he says.

Better just hope Trumpism isn't the future of politics. Just think: this could be normalised and we'll have it for decades or more.

If you support Trump, you support all the horrible things he does, has done, and will do.

Remember when Clinton's 'big flaw' was that she would be mean to Russia? I do.

Saelune:
If you support Trump, you support all the horrible things he does, has done, and will do.

Remember when Clinton's 'big flaw' was that she would be mean to Russia? I do.

Its gonna be a VERY interesting 2020 mid-term election if he doesn't resign or gets impeached by now.

I just, fucking, would anyone accept this from any other president in any other circumstance? I sure as hell hope not. So why are people tolerating it here?

erttheking:
I just, fucking, would anyone accept this from any other president in any other circumstance? I sure as hell hope not. So why are people tolerating it here?

Because trump and the repubs have essentially promoted to everyone that it's ok to openly not care about anything but themselves. It's fine to be willfully ignorant and pretend you're the best while berating anybody different or challenging of your preconceptions. Anti-intellectualism validated and encouraged from the highest seat of power.

bastardofmelbourne:
Just fucking impeach him already, America. This isn't even a disgrace anymore. There's nothing left to disgrace.

This brings up that age old question; What's more important? Rule of Law or Perceived Safety?

Rule of Law and the adherence to it is one of the only things that keeps me feeling safe before I move to Canada. I know that doesn't even really apply to me, but one clings to hope. It's other 'Perceived Safety' that would put a bullet in me because I'm one of 'dem threatening minorities' they heard so much about.

By Rule of Law, we need to await for the mid-term elections to hit more Blue than Red, because the Republicans are winning financially and they couldn't care less about anything else. And more to the point, I think this is 'Holding onto the Floating Debris around the Titanic' time for them. There is no walking back what they allowed, parroted, or supported Trump over. So, for their very job safety, they wouldn't impeach Trump is they had actual video of him shooting someone.

For Perceived Safety, we can't remove him just because we know how much of an idiot he is. Sad part is, every population has idiots. And a good deal of his Cult fall under that umbrella. Not all, because I know some people are actually just cashing out under Trump's rule, so I can't hate them that much for that (I do hate them, but just not that much). But the point is that enough of a cult is around him that I feel we'd face more civil unrest than we actually think if we just ousted him without following rule of law.

For the record, though, can you please not say it's America? It's the Republicans. The rest of us are showing up to fight. It's the Republicans who keep beating the dead horse of the Trump Presidency.

erttheking:
I just, fucking, would anyone accept this from any other president in any other circumstance?

Basically, yes they would.

I think when you look at representative democracies such as ours, the access of leaders to the top is a politically controlled process. Specifically, the political (economic and social) elites usually control the candidates who go forward for the public to pick. Thus it's a democratic process within the constraints of what "the establishment" are prepared to provide.

The system has however broken down with the colossal disfavour that the political elites have ended up, resulting in the collective public id permitted to run free. Thus there was always the potential for this to happen, were it not for the fact the elites blocked it.

Another possibility is that anyone could behave like Trump and be elected at this point in time; previously they could not because of societal and political standards, lower partisanship or less sense of crisis, etc. So it's not Trump per se, just a function of this period that we'll accept any old despicable tosser as long as they press a specific handful of the right buttons.

Thaluikhain:

Pseudonym:
Idunno. This is the same country where bringing foto-ID to elections is still a major problems because many don't have any and the process for aquiring it can be rather hard. I sometimes feel like certain feats of administrative and bureaucratic competence that other governments have long perfected are still lagging in the US. Not just because of political choices but also due to a generally less competent government.

Photo ID for elections is a bad example, it's not accidental that there's a problem there.

My state has one of those voter-ID laws, and I can't imagine it actually prevents anyone who should be able to vote from doing so. I mean, I have trouble imagining someone actually being a resident of the state and in any way significantly interacting with society that doesn't have at least one of the following:

- West Virginia driver's license or other West Virginia ID card issued by the DMV
- Driver's license issued by another state
- U.S. passport or passport card
- Military ID card issued by the U.S.
- U.S. or West Virginia government employee ID card
- Student ID card
- A concealed carry permit
- Voter registration card
- Medicare card or Social Security card
- Birth certificate
- West Virginia hunting or fishing license
- West Virginia SNAP ID card
- West Virginia TANF program ID card
- West Virginia Medicaid ID card
- Bank or debit card
- Utility bill or bank statement issued within six months of the date of the election
- Health insurance card issued to the voter

With two exceptions:

1. If someone who can meet that ID requirement is willing to come to the polling place and sign a sworn statement affirming that they have known you at least 6 months and confirming your identity. A poll worker is permitted to sign these, presuming they have known you for at least six months and are willing to sign a document affirming that fact and your identity.

2. If you are a resident in a licensed state care facility that is also your polling place, you are not required to provide ID. Such facilities are very common choices for polling places.

Lil devils x:

Samtemdo8:

Lil devils x:

Many racists do not consider Spanish, Portuguese, Italians, Greeks, some French as being the same as they are either, not unlike how they separate Jewish people even if they appear white:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism_and_race

SO yes, you can have light skin and not be considered " white" by many racists, especially the neo Nazis that were marching through the streets in the US. They do not consider people from Spain to be "white" either. Yes, these people are idiots and that is why they elect idiots.

Ironically it was the Mediterranean peoples who ruled all of Europe and deemed those "white" Germanic/Celtic peoples as filthy uncivilized barbarians, the Germanics in particualr were the "immigrants" of then.

Actual History is irrelevant to those promoting this nonsense. They have no interest in the truth, as they want to promote their "alternative facts" instead and create a reality that fits their narrative. That is why this is so dangerous, they create a fiction and promote it as truth until they have masses of people who believe them. Trump and his supporters could care less about truth or reality as they are just making it up as they go along to promote whatever agenda they have at the time.

Trump didn't want to spend money on or designate the needed resources to Puerto Rico, so he could care less how many people actually died as a result and will invent his own "alternative facts" to promote why it is more important to spend the money on ICE than to save lives of Americans that he does not see as being "Americans". He has already shown repeatedly he has no use for the actual truth. Neither do his supporters who promote race superiority BS.

I like to see this happening to a gang of Neo Nazis:

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