ACTA, or, how to make SOPA worse.

ACTA is a treaty being discussed internationally to protect copyright on the internet.

So basically it is a treaty that would be SOPA, if SOPA included constant watching of EVERYTHING you do, and applied to you even if your outside of the US.

Thoughts?

F*cking scary video. I hope the anti-ACTA movement will be even bigger than the anti-SOPA movement.

-Living in the Netherlands. Thank you European Union.

Thoughts:

- Unenforcable.
- Let's kick all these politicians off the internet, and pass laws to stop them ever enforcing legislation like this.

Christ! SOPA, PIPA, ACTA... I'm getting more and more inclined to just firebomb the fuck out of the corporations, rather than just protest against this bullshit.

A signing ceremony was held on 1 October 2011 in Tokyo, with the United States, Australia, Canada, Japan, Morocco, New Zealand, Singapore, and South Korea signing the treaty. The European Union, Mexico, and Switzerland did not sign the treaty, but "attended the ceremony and confirmed their continuing strong support for and preparations to sign the Agreement as soon as practicable"

so how do we stop it when its already been signed?

I was under the impression that ACTA got sank a long while back...

Goddamnit, do we need to do an open revolt to stop these stupid fucking laws?

nikki191:
A signing ceremony was held on 1 October 2011 in Tokyo, with the United States, Australia, Canada, Japan, Morocco, New Zealand, Singapore, and South Korea signing the treaty. The European Union, Mexico, and Switzerland did not sign the treaty, but "attended the ceremony and confirmed their continuing strong support for and preparations to sign the Agreement as soon as practicable"

so how do we stop it when its already been signed?

O_O

IT ALREADY IS LAW?

Is Sopa America's attempt to comply with the treaty?

nikki191:
A signing ceremony was held on 1 October 2011 in Tokyo, with the United States, Australia, Canada, Japan, Morocco, New Zealand, Singapore, and South Korea signing the treaty. The European Union, Mexico, and Switzerland did not sign the treaty, but "attended the ceremony and confirmed their continuing strong support for and preparations to sign the Agreement as soon as practicable"

so how do we stop it when its already been signed?

As long as the EU doesn't sign it and no enforcement measures are put in place, it'll be as effective as the Kyoto treaty.

Not G. Ivingname:

nikki191:
A signing ceremony was held on 1 October 2011 in Tokyo, with the United States, Australia, Canada, Japan, Morocco, New Zealand, Singapore, and South Korea signing the treaty. The European Union, Mexico, and Switzerland did not sign the treaty, but "attended the ceremony and confirmed their continuing strong support for and preparations to sign the Agreement as soon as practicable"

so how do we stop it when its already been signed?

O_O

IT ALREADY IS LAW?

Is Sopa America's attempt to comply with the treaty?

Has the treaty been ratified by the US senate? Any treaty requires Senate ratification before the actual signing means anything.

Not G. Ivingname:
Thoughts?

Poland here.
My country will sign ACTA/26 January.

What's funny - Acta isn't discussed. Mainstream media are silent on this matter. Simple people asked some politicians about their attitude towards ACTA and most of them were surprised. Half people don't know what's it about, other half doesn't give a sh*t.
It seems that our government does some thing without the public knowledge.

Such is life in Soviet Poland...

I speculate...

If you look at this from a broader view than the internet, it makes a lot of sense. Richer countries only really have intellectual industries as their comparative advantage. IP laws are the route through which ideas directly make money. The reason these bills are coming about isn't so much a vendetta against the internet (Indeed, many on here would agree that most lawmakers don't know much about it), but a vendetta against those developing countries which are 'stealin our jurbs'.

The idea is that, besides allowing sanctions in response to copying and then producing it way cheap, it will also prevent Western consumers from buying those foreign goods, forcing demand switching to domestic producers and providing jobs. This will also probably push prices up- but then perhaps it could be argued that stuff has been too cheap for too long.

*Shrug*

Sorry my knee didn't jerk.

Of for the love of God, SOPA's up, then it's down, I relax, then it's up again, then it's down again, then this pops up. For the love of God I'm sick of all of this, I just want to be able to go on the internet and play games without everything being focused on how everything sucks or how my freedom is going to be destroyed, let's just sink this bill and move forward to happier times. If we can get rid of SOPA and PIPA we can take this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=citzRjwk-sQ&feature=player_embedded#!
For the love of god we need to spread the word.

The Gentleman:
...Has the treaty been ratified by the US senate? Any treaty requires Senate ratification before the actual signing means anything.

It's an internationally agreed treaty - like the Nuclear Proliferation Treaty. If the U.S. Senate doesn't ratify the treaty, they'll have more than their share of international backlash. Trust me - the ACTA is already considered "a done deal".

the scary thing about acta wasnt that its not discussed before it was signed, its that alot of countries made it an official state secret, the USA especially.

im wondering if that british student who will be extradited is a result of acta

Zeh Don:

The Gentleman:
...Has the treaty been ratified by the US senate? Any treaty requires Senate ratification before the actual signing means anything.

It's an internationally agreed treaty - like the Nuclear Proliferation Treaty. If the U.S. Senate doesn't ratify the treaty, they'll have more than their share of international backlash. Trust me - the ACTA is already considered "a done deal".

Normally you'd be right, but given that the minority in the US Senate wasn't even willing to ratify the new START treaty until there was a massive pile-on by every foreign policy expert on their side of the debate, I need to see some ratification.

 

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