Conspiracy Theorists/Theories that annoy you?

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Need I go on? This is the thread for all those particular theories and theorists that sound nothing short of insane. To be clear, I don't believe that all theories are completely insane nor that all of them aren't without some form of merit. Sometimes, they can probably be partially right. However, this thread isn't about them. It's about the really crazy ones. So, post what annoys/baffles/or scares you.

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Maybe in the future I'll make a poll thread of all the ones that take the cake, but for now here's a list of mine:

1. 9/11 truthers. It's not the fact that they believe a democratic government has that much micromanagement and man power that annoys me, it's the fact that they think that George was actually competent enough to orchastrate such an incrediby complex plan. Imagine all the groups of people this moron had to control and have cooperate with other groups of people. Scientists, military, firemen, police, insurance, business. That's not even getting into how much money this endeavor would have costed, especially when they keep saying 'follow the money.'

2. Ancient Astronaughts. I don't hate religion, but I hate it very much so when it disguises its self as a form of science. And well, this is a perfect example of this. It tries to come across as pretty much a science when really it pretty much follows the exact same patterns as theology does. Bla bla bla, created by a greater being, we are a greater species, and our existence has greater meaning. Oh, and lets not forget how fallacious and desperate their arguments can be.

This particular empire was more advanced than the others, THEY MUST HAVE BEEN VISITED BY ANCIENT ASTRONAUGHTS. (Kind of reminiscent of the religious argument that a fortunate, powerful empire MUST be on the side of a god)

This landmark is incredible, THEY MUST HAVE BEEN VISITED BY ANCIENT ASTRONAUGHTS.

The bible claims of angelic beings, THEIR MUST REALLY BE ANGELS, BUT THEY MAY POSSIBLY BE ANCIENT ASTRONAUGHTS.

We weren't praising gods, WE WERE PRAISING ANCIENT ASTRONAUGHTS.

Need I go on?

3. The Liberal Media!

The most down right obnoxious of conspirists. They like to assume that they're these knowledgeable underdogs residing in this terrifying world where Liberals are slowly indoctrinating everyone into what's basically a massive collectivist mind net. Christ, if they just said that we're all run by cyborgs I'd sooner find even that more believable. But I can understand what they're so worried about, indoctrination is a horrifying thing and clearly giving two men the right to marry isn't too far off from a statist nightmare. Fuck, first it's just letting two guys kiss and the next thing you know we've got a totalitarian nation that completely brainwashes people. Beep boop zoink, SUBMIT YOUR MIND TO THE LIBERAL MEDIA!

4. Those 'science is just massive lie!' Creationists.

I could go on for hours on how completely offensive this belief is, but instead I'm just going to tell a story:

There was this man that believes these invinsible things existed. Because of this, people thought he was fucking crazy. Which is ironic, given that they all, for the most part, believed that a single gigantic invisble man had existed. Well, unlike them this man decided to prove his theories and it turned out - through mathematics and a great deal of other things - that his peculiar belief had something going on.

If science is a lie and atoms aren't real, then I've just got to ask how the nuclear bomb was created. What, did the guys involved split an imaginary object? Did they just randomly guess how to create this weapon, and end up finding it by fluke? Or, is it that nuclear bombs don't even exist to begin with.

It only takes moments just based on the discovering the nuclear bomb to realize how completely insane these arguments are. So basically, what we've got here is that either science is wrong and they somehow managed to make a perfect weapon with incorrect equations, that they didn't have a clue what they were doing and just magically stumbled across making the nuclear bomb, or - worst of all - that Japan had never suffered the terrible fate which they had.

Personally I think the bilderberg/zionist/nwo 'they'll take over the world' conspiracy is the worst. It's a spawn of anti-semitic propaganda before the second world war, and you'd think people with more than half a brain could see through antique nonsense over 80 years old.

The illuminati legends really annoy the hell out of me. A lot of the nuttier conspiracies can be dismissed out of hand, but it is very difficult to prove that something that once did exist (for less than a decade, wiped out before it could achieve a damn thing), doesn't anymore.

Heronblade:
The illuminati legends really annoy the hell out of me. A lot of the nuttier conspiracies can be dismissed out of hand, but it is very difficult to prove that something that once did exist (for less than a decade, wiped out before it could achieve a damn thing), doesn't anymore.

In a public speaking class i had a while back one girl gave a speech about the illumati having massive influence and that they had symbols everywhere. Fallacious arguements and illogical connections abounded to the point where at the end I raised my hand to ask " Are you kidding me?" ...which I got to say took tons of self control to not come out as "Are you fucking kidding me?"

Bloody Sunday was pre-planned.

^ I don't like the British that much, I like their food and I like their T.V. I don't like their cities and the superiority complex they've got going on.

But them orchestrating Bloody Sunday with 'plants' in the crowd is just plain offensive, to both the people that died that day and to the soldiers, who may or may not have believed they had a reason to fire.

While the idea that 9/11 was caused entirely by the government is not very plausible, the idea that they ignored warning signs intentionally to give cause for a war is not one without precedent.

Also, fair chance that Waco had government involvement, but not conspiracy level. I just think someone in charge screwed up.

Also, I am willing to believe that we didn't land on the moon till 1972. Before that, it was staged to ignite patriotism during our giant pissing contest with the Soviet Union. It just seemed like our rocket technology suddenly got leaps and bounds better once the Soviets launched Sputnik. That doesn't seem likely. I still think we made it first, but the original landings were staged to buy us more time, since the race to the moon was politically important for both sides.

OT: Illuminati. Not terribly likely.

lSHaDoW-FoXl:
2. Ancient Astronaughts. I don't hate religion, but I hate it very much so when it disguises its self as a form of science. And well, this is a perfect example of this. It tries to come across as pretty much a science when really it pretty much follows the exact same patterns as theology does. Bla bla bla, created by a greater being, we are a greater species, and our existence has greater meaning. Oh, and lets not forget how fallacious and desperate their arguments can be.

This particular empire was more advanced than the others, THEY MUST HAVE BEEN VISITED BY ANCIENT ASTRONAUGHTS. (Kind of reminiscent of the religious argument that a fortunate, powerful empire MUST be on the side of a god)

This landmark is incredible, THEY MUST HAVE BEEN VISITED BY ANCIENT ASTRONAUGHTS.

The bible claims of angelic beings, THEIR MUST REALLY BE ANGELS, BUT THEY MAY POSSIBLY BE ANCIENT ASTRONAUGHTS.

We weren't praising gods, WE WERE PRAISING ANCIENT ASTRONAUGHTS.

Need I go on?

WELL *INSERT CURSE*!

Kendarik:
I've never heard of anyone doing that so its impossible for it to be common to call them names. I'm also used to people being civilized and not accusing people of a mental disorder because you think they are silly/ill informed.

Kendarik look over here! Some guy calling a lot of people insane, crazy and annoying because of not-so-strange beliefs. Start criticizing him for his hateful position right now please!

'lSHaDoW-FoXl', if you had truly research Ancient Aliens, you might have spelled 'Ancient Astronauts' like 'Ancient Astronauts' and not like 'Ancient Astro-Naughties'.

If cultures from all over the world report that men came from the sky, often in some kind of vehicles, taught them writing and other skills, and then left and told them to come back in hundreds or thousands of year, that's quite interesting.

Seriously, how could people thousands of years ago know the difference between "A God from his special God-dimension" and "An advanced alien from a different galaxy"? I really don't understand why religious people are so sure that God doesn't live in some distant part of our universe.

Also, while religion has caused a lot of people to have really silly ideas (sex is dirty, homosexuality is evil, masturbating is sinful, pornography must be banned), I've never seen the Ancient Aliens-show promote those stupid, harmful ideas.

Tree man:
I don't like the British that much, I like their food and I like their T.V. I don't like their cities and the superiority complex they've got going on.

Are you confusing us for someone else? We're probably the most self deprecating people on Earth

OT: 9/11 truthers really piss me off. I find what they're saying an insult to the victims and just outright stupid.

Danyal:

lSHaDoW-FoXl:
2. Ancient Astronaughts. I don't hate religion, but I hate it very much so when it disguises its self as a form of science. And well, this is a perfect example of this. It tries to come across as pretty much a science when really it pretty much follows the exact same patterns as theology does. Bla bla bla, created by a greater being, we are a greater species, and our existence has greater meaning. Oh, and lets not forget how fallacious and desperate their arguments can be.

This particular empire was more advanced than the others, THEY MUST HAVE BEEN VISITED BY ANCIENT ASTRONAUGHTS. (Kind of reminiscent of the religious argument that a fortunate, powerful empire MUST be on the side of a god)

This landmark is incredible, THEY MUST HAVE BEEN VISITED BY ANCIENT ASTRONAUGHTS.

The bible claims of angelic beings, THEIR MUST REALLY BE ANGELS, BUT THEY MAY POSSIBLY BE ANCIENT ASTRONAUGHTS.

We weren't praising gods, WE WERE PRAISING ANCIENT ASTRONAUGHTS.

Need I go on?

WELL *INSERT CURSE*!

Kendarik:
I've never heard of anyone doing that so its impossible for it to be common to call them names. I'm also used to people being civilized and not accusing people of a mental disorder because you think they are silly/ill informed.

Kendarik look over here! Some guy calling a lot of people insane, crazy and annoying because of not-so-strange beliefs. Start criticizing him for his hateful position right now please!

'lSHaDoW-FoXl', if you had truly research Ancient Aliens, you might have spelled 'Ancient Astronauts' like 'Ancient Astronauts' and not like 'Ancient Astro-Naughties'.

If cultures from all over the world report that men came from the sky, often in some kind of vehicles, taught them writing and other skills, and then left and told them to come back in hundreds or thousands of year, that's quite interesting.

Seriously, how could people thousands of years ago know the difference between "A God from his special God-dimension" and "An advanced alien from a different galaxy"? I really don't understand why religious people are so sure that God doesn't live in some distant part of our universe.

Also, while religion has caused a lot of people to have really silly ideas (sex is dirty, homosexuality is evil, masturbating is sinful, pornography must be banned), I've never seen the Ancient Aliens-show promote those stupid, harmful ideas.

For the record, I never called them insane or crazy, I tend to think they're silly. The annoying part comes in when they start to pretend to be scientific when a lot of their beliefs/arguments seem to practically parallel a lot of theological ones. Much in the same way religion would credit everything to god, these people credit everything to aliens. And well, there is absolutely no science behind any of their arguments. All their logic amounts to X is peculiar, therefor we must credit it to Y. It is science to look for answers, not to assume them.

Aliens are possible, that part I can deal with. The part that pisses me off, however, is where we're supposedly this incredible race that came from a far greater one. Seriously, what the fuck is with humanity feeling the need to always jerk off to our selves? Why do we always need some incredible explanation for our existence on Earth?

The universe was made for man, everything on earth was made for man, men are the second to god, we are made in gods image. Holy fuck, and now to add to this unhealthy masturbation material we've got to add 'sons of aliens, alien descedents, and my personal favourite, alien fuck toy to the list. Fuck, the truth is, no matter how absolutely incredible, dramatic, or awesome we want our origins to be, the truth will probably never reach our expectations, and we're going to be greatly be let down.

Trust me, us humans aren't THAT great. Being privileged enough to be a human, I can honestly say that we're simply not deserving of such conceit to assume that we're greater than even the Earth its self. Personally, I'm hoping that the reason for our existence is that a pig fucked a monkey and that we're just the retarded off spring, if only for how completely let down everyone would be. I know, it sounds a bit extroardinary, but hey, at least I'm not making any bull shit up about us being the the descendents of some super species. There is a great difference in assuming that aliens exist and that we came from aliens. And that just so happens to be one claim that deserves to be criticized. Extroardinary claims call for extroardinary evidence, and these people should offer a lot more than just 'This place used advanced architecture methods, ALIENS MUST HAVE DONE IT!' Because again, it is in no way any different than crediting god for thunderstorms, misfortune, fortune, and other things which we know absolutely that he did not have his hand in.

Anyone claiming President Obama is secretly a Muslim radical born in Kenya.

Do I even need to explain why these people get on my tits? It's just... they're fucking morons!

Tree man:
I don't like the British that much, I like their food and I like their T.V. I don't like their cities and the superiority complex they've got going on.

*looks at crowd claiming "America is the greatest nation in the world!"*
*looks at British people complaining about anything and everything they can*

Seriously? On the list of "nations with superiority complexes", we British aren't near the top. Like, at all. We bitch constantly, about everything.

Simple really:

People who say the Illumintari exist
People who say Republicans are Evil
People who say Deomcrats are immoral
People who say there is ANY conspiracy behind the Kennedy shooting
People who say there is ANY government coverup of 9/11 (The white house cant keep an affair secret. You really think they could hide intentionally screwing over americans)
People who say Bush was evil
People who say Bush was a war criminal (if starting a war is consider being a war criminal, I will gladly sit at Satans right hand)
People who say Obama is a Muslim, Kenyan "manchurian canidate" (I may not like the guy, but there are plenty of valid critisms without making up obviously false stuff like that)
People who say we should ignore chivalry because of its origins
People who rule out military force as an option for ANY reason
People who say that all gun owners are shooting sprees waiting to happen
People who say that being a "redneck" makes you backward, poor, racist, etc. (IM REDNECK!)
Hippies-nuff said

I think MovieBob more or less hit the nail on the head here.

Danyal:

Seriously, how could people thousands of years ago know the difference between "A God from his special God-dimension" and "An advanced alien from a different galaxy"? I really don't understand why religious people are so sure that God doesn't live in some distant part of our universe.

And I don't know why you are such a close minded bigot that sterotypes everyone in HUGE group in the billions of people based on your preconceived notions. Lots of religious people have considered that possibility, as well as the possibility that god is completely made up.

Also, while religion has caused a lot of people to have really silly ideas (sex is dirty, homosexuality is evil, masturbating is sinful, pornography must be banned),

Oh look, more stereotyping. Not all of that stems from religion and not all religions believe any of that.

BOOM headshot65:

People who say there is ANY conspiracy behind the Kennedy shooting

Of course there was a conspiracy to kill Kennedy. Now, it is very likely not as far-reaching as, say, the CIA and the mob and the Cubans or anything like that; however, many investigations (including the House Select Committee on Assassinations) have concluded that while Oswalt was the assassin, it likely was the result of some sort of conspiracy. Remember, for something to be a conspiracy, you only need two conspirators.

BOOM headshot65:
People who say Bush was a war criminal (if starting a war is consider being a war criminal, I will gladly sit at Satans right hand)

Earth to Boom: Simply "starting a war" is not the only reason many people consider Bush to be a "war criminal."

BOOM headshot65:
People who say Bush was a war criminal

That's not a conspiracy, that's a fact. He gave direct orders to the military that violated the laws of war, so he's a war criminal. Torturing prisoners of any kind is forbidden under any and all circumstances, to name just one example. An officer or any other commander who orders his subordinates to commit war crimes, is a war criminal.

No need to assume why that would suddenly fail to hold true when it gets above the field ranks.

2012.

Even the Mayans themselves don't think the world is going to end (couple of exceptions for monetary purposes, of course) - actually get off your arse and read an older book on the subject or even speak to an elder, stay away from this "trendy" crap that's all over the internet and popular media.

British superiority complex. What superiority complex? I see everyone from Celts to Kiwis trotting out this stereotype and laying into Brits, but what they really mean are the English and there's no real reason for it aside from bigotry.

BOOM headshot65:
People who rule out military force as an option for ANY reason

So, military force is the answer to every problem, and anyone who disagrees is a conspiracy nut? Um...and oh yeah, Bush, Iraq, 'stan, etc etc.

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Also hate the ancient astronauts crap.

Is it still a conspiracy theory when it gets enough adherents to constitute a serious demographic, or does it become a cultural trend or something then? Cause there's a lot that seem to be along those lines.

BOOM headshot65:
People who say Republicans are Evil
People who say Deomcrats are immoral
People who say Bush was evil
People who say Bush was a war criminal (if starting a war is consider being a war criminal, I will gladly sit at Satans right hand)
People who say we should ignore chivalry because of its origins
People who rule out military force as an option for ANY reason
People who say that all gun owners are shooting sprees waiting to happen
People who say that being a "redneck" makes you backward, poor, racist, etc. (IM REDNECK!)
Hippies-nuff said

You appear to have confused the word for "conspiracy theory" with the word for "having an opinion."

BOOM headshot65:
People who say we should ignore chivalry because of its origins
People who rule out military force as an option for ANY reason
People who say that all gun owners are shooting sprees waiting to happen
People who say that being a "redneck" makes you backward, poor, racist, etc. (IM REDNECK!)
Hippies-nuff said

You started off with conspiracies with a few that were just common opinions, then somehow got into the territory of "people I don't like."

Anyway, birthers, truthers, Holocaust deniers, people who think the moon landing was faked... For the most part, I just point to anything Alex Jones says and say, "That."

Heronblade:
The illuminati legends really annoy the hell out of me. A lot of the nuttier conspiracies can be dismissed out of hand, but it is very difficult to prove that something that once did exist (for less than a decade, wiped out before it could achieve a damn thing), doesn't anymore.

was the KKK removed from the government after the Civil Rights movement?

DrVornoff:
For the most part, I just point to anything Alex Jones says and say, "That."

That's actually a very good way to look at it. If Alex Jones is espousing it, you can rest assured it's more than likely Full Metal Nutter nonsense.

Conspiracy Theorists/Theories that annoy you?

All of them. People love to speculate and make up shit. They hate facts based on evidence.
Like the clean up help at the local store who knows all about the moon landing hoax and are convinced the government are monitoring them. Met that type on more than one occasion.

9/11 "truthers," the evil "Hollywood Agenda." I think my favorite is "chemtrails."

"Oh, hey you know those little clouds that trail behind supersonic jets? Those are actually chemicals being sprayed on us by the government, to cause illnesses or put latent mind-control technologies in us. Never mind that since it's in the air, whatever is in it will inevitably affect EVERYONE, including all government officials and law enforcement. Never mind that there is no way to make sure it hits a certain area. Never mind that since it's being sprayed MILES high in the sky and blows far away before it can get into our region of the atmosphere the only possible way to make sure people get affected is to achieve total saturation of all of the air on the earth, which means THOUSANDS of cubic miles of air to fill. Never mind that tainting something like water or food or medicine would be a hell of a lot easier to administer and control. Never mind that it would be a lot more inconspicuous to have a spray that's INVISIBLE. No, it has to be chemicals being sprayed by supersonic jets. Because conspiracies."

1. Global Climate Change deniers (they annoy me the most because they are actually doing very real harm to the world, and by the threatening my personal well being)
2. birthers (how blatantly racist and crazy can you get?)
3. evolution is a lie (then how come you can't come up with a single piece of evidence to prove that claim?)
4. THEY'RE COMING TO TAKE AWAY OUR GUNZ (we'd probably be better of if they did, to obad they won't, now stop handing out money to NRA and helping innocent people get shot without any repercussions to the killer you crazy fucks)
5. Liberal Media (does not exist, you view of the world is simply wrong, get over it)

CAPTCHA: step back

but SYG says you can shoot someone instead.

Rastelin:
Conspiracy Theorists/Theories that annoy you?

All of them. People love to speculate and make up shit. They hate facts based on evidence.
Like the clean up help at the local store who knows all about the moon landing hoax and are convinced the government are monitoring them. Met that type on more than one occasion.

what?

the government all throughout history have shown that they deceive the people for power. even religion has done this.

this is why many Christians believe Christmas is Jesus's birthday, and that Eastern is the day Jesus rose from the dead. Those were pagan holidays that the government wanted the pagan community to get comfy with the powerful controlling Christian movement at that time.

Governments have even attacked their own and blamed others for it, just to gain support.

what makes you believe that they wouldnt do this same kind of stuff, if its been done all throughout history?

Grandcrusader:
what makes you believe that they wouldnt do this same kind of stuff, if its been done all throughout history?

So all conspiracy theories are credible because conspiracies exist?

I "love" the one about the Lizard People who have infiltrated high levels of sports, entertainment, business and government. This CT (can we used CT for Conspiracy Theory? I think that a great idea) believes that many famous people have been replaced by a race of lizard like creatures who live inside the earth (oh yeah; did I mention most of them believe the earth is hollow). They even know the names of many of them...

Its just so fantasticly funny (if it wasn't for the fact that people believe it).

The think with a lot of these theories that appeals is that they seems to make a lot of sense internally. When people make the claims they often use a lot of facts (actual facts) to back up their claims so the CT sounds plausible to someone who doesn't know much about the subject. In fact with many (such as 9/11 CT, Moon Landing Hoax, Intelligent Design and Holocaust denial) you often need to be an expert on the subject matter to realise that you aren't being presented with the full picture.

A good book on the subject is: Denying History: Who says the Holocaust Never Happened and Why Do they Say It?

http://www.amazon.com/Denying-History-Holocaust-Happened-Expanded/dp/0520260988/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1333179900&sr=8-1

It is, mostly about the holocaust denial movement (and explains why they are wrong), but it uses that as a jumping board to talk about evaluating evidence and history in broader terms. Its not difficult and I would reccomend it to most people who frequent these boards.

Grandcrusader:

what?

the government all throughout history have shown that they deceive the people for power. even religion has done this.

this is why many Christians believe Christmas is Jesus's birthday, and that Eastern is the day Jesus rose from the dead. Those were pagan holidays that the government wanted the pagan community to get comfy with the powerful controlling Christian movement at that time.

Governments have even attacked their own and blamed others for it, just to gain support.

what makes you believe that they wouldnt do this same kind of stuff, if its been done all throughout history?

Quite true that.

But hence "Conspiracy Theorists/Theories". I am talking bat shit crazy with foil hats.

Grandcrusader:
what?

the government all throughout history have shown that they deceive the people for power. even religion has done this.

this is why many Christians believe Christmas is Jesus's birthday, and that Eastern is the day Jesus rose from the dead. Those were pagan holidays that the government wanted the pagan community to get comfy with the powerful controlling Christian movement at that time.

Governments have even attacked their own and blamed others for it, just to gain support.

what makes you believe that they wouldnt do this same kind of stuff, if its been done all throughout history?

And you know what? The theories which have the weight of evidence behind them are generally seen as valid. We're pissed about all the unvalidated ones. The ones that have no or flimsy evidence behind them.

NameIsRobertPaulson:

Also, I am willing to believe that we didn't land on the moon till 1972. Before that, it was staged to ignite patriotism during our giant pissing contest with the Soviet Union. It just seemed like our rocket technology suddenly got leaps and bounds better once the Soviets launched Sputnik. That doesn't seem likely. I still think we made it first, but the original landings were staged to buy us more time, since the race to the moon was politically important for both sides.

The biggest argument I have against that train of thought is that it would be impossible to cover up; not only did you have all the people in NASA who would have to be involved, you also had to get the Australian government involved (because it was an Australian-operated RADAR Dish that connected Apollo 11 to NASA), you'd have to make a pretty convincing fake moon set (Mythbusters did a good episode showing that the things brought up as claims that it was staged were all untrue, not to mention that it'd be impossible to fake some things present in the video).

Oh, and the biggest one of them all; that the Soviet Union wouldn't cry foul if they thought anything was suspect. They certainly would have the means to detect if something was amiss (like there being no signal sent from the moon back to Earth for example).

As for the technology advancing so quickly, Sputnik kicked NASA into gear, you'd be suprised at what that can do for motivation. Technology can and demonstratably has improved by such leaps and bounds in less time.

lSHaDoW-FoXl:
For the record, I never called them insane or crazy, I tend to think they're silly.

lSHaDoW-FoXl:
This is the thread for all those particular theories and theorists that sound nothing short of insane. It's about the really crazy ones. So, post what annoys/baffles/or scares you.

lSHaDoW-FoXl:
The annoying part comes in when they start to pretend to be scientific when a lot of their beliefs/arguments seem to practically parallel a lot of theological ones. Much in the same way religion would credit everything to god, these people credit everything to aliens. And well, there is absolutely no science behind any of their arguments. All their logic amounts to X is peculiar, therefor we must credit it to Y. It is science to look for answers, not to assume them.

So you know ALL their arguments? You've watched ALL episodes and not one of their claims sounded remotely scientific?

I would say they're unscientific too. But as a scientist-in-training myself, I would say that they're unscientific because they lack peer review, not because all their arguments are unscientific.

lSHaDoW-FoXl:
Aliens are possible, that part I can deal with. The part that pisses me off, however, is where we're supposedly this incredible race that came from a far greater one. Seriously, what the fuck is with humanity feeling the need to always jerk off to our selves? Why do we always need some incredible explanation for our existence on Earth?

The universe was made for man, everything on earth was made for man, men are the second to god, we are made in gods image. Holy fuck, and now to add to this unhealthy masturbation material we've got to add 'sons of aliens, alien descedents, and my personal favourite, alien fuck toy to the list. Fuck, the truth is, no matter how absolutely incredible, dramatic, or awesome we want our origins to be, the truth will probably never reach our expectations, and we're going to be greatly be let down.

Trust me, us humans aren't THAT great. Being privileged enough to be a human, I can honestly say that we're simply not deserving of such conceit to assume that we're greater than even the Earth its self. Personally, I'm hoping that the reason for our existence is that a pig fucked a monkey and that we're just the retarded off spring, if only for how completely let down everyone would be. I know, it sounds a bit extroardinary, but hey, at least I'm not making any bull shit up about us being the the descendents of some super species. There is a great difference in assuming that aliens exist and that we came from aliens. And that just so happens to be one claim that deserves to be criticized. Extroardinary claims call for extroardinary evidence, and these people should offer a lot more than just 'This place used advanced architecture methods, ALIENS MUST HAVE DONE IT!' Because again, it is in no way any different than crediting god for thunderstorms, misfortune, fortune, and other things which we know absolutely that he did not have his hand in.

Wait, you've dedicated all that text to mocking 'Ancient Aliens' because the theory assumes we're 'made by Gods' in the 'image of Gods' and it's just stupid jerking off to ourselves...

...while they assume that we're made as slaves to work in gold mines?

Sigh.

Shaoken:
The biggest argument I have against that train of thought is that it would be impossible to cover up; not only did you have all the people in NASA who would have to be involved, you also had to get the Australian government involved (because it was an Australian-operated RADAR Dish that connected Apollo 11 to NASA), you'd have to make a pretty convincing fake moon set (Mythbusters did a good episode showing that the things brought up as claims that it was staged were all untrue, not to mention that it'd be impossible to fake some things present in the video).

Oh, and the biggest one of them all; that the Soviet Union wouldn't cry foul if they thought anything was suspect. They certainly would have the means to detect if something was amiss (like there being no signal sent from the moon back to Earth for example).

As for the technology advancing so quickly, Sputnik kicked NASA into gear, you'd be suprised at what that can do for motivation. Technology can and demonstratably has improved by such leaps and bounds in less time.

Eh, all you need is the US government and scientist, and those of Australia and the USSR? Pft, that's not a far fetched conspiracy, not like chem-trails, which require every single operator of large aircraft in the whole to be in on it.

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I like the one about Lady Gaga being produced by a secret eugenics program to make superhuman entertainers or whatever. Unfortunately, it then goes into how she's a hermaphrodite/bisexual (those being the same things) because of incest (which cause that), which is taking it too far.

But people selectively breeding people to be the next generation of singers, that's sorta cool, though you'd expect her to have lots of siblings if that was true.

Is it just me or does A LOT of conspiracy theories seem to come from the US. Just look at the CTs here, most of them are from the US, what do the Brits have, Diana was murdered and that is about it.

Is it just that the US has a lot of nutters, or is it the distrust of government that leads to the belief that the government is always hiding massive secrets from the public.

My favourite counter to conspiracy theories involving the US government that I have heard is "the White House couldn't keep a blowjob that involved two people a secret, how the fuck are they going to keep the lid on these conspiracies involving thousands and thousands of people".

Kendarik:
And I don't know why you are such a close minded bigot that sterotypes everyone in HUGE group in the billions of people based on your preconceived notions. Lots of religious people have considered that possibility, as well as the possibility that god is completely made up.

Okay, you're right. I should have inserted 'most' somewhere.

Kendarik:

Also, while religion has caused a lot of people to have really silly ideas (sex is dirty, homosexuality is evil, masturbating is sinful, pornography must be banned),

Oh look, more stereotyping. Not all of that stems from religion and not all religions believe any of that.

Doesn't change the fact that "religion has caused a lot of people to have really silly ideas". Santorum has won in some states, nuff said.

I enjoy conspiracy theories. I find them entertaining. The only conspiracy theorists that piss me off are the ones that are blatantly ignorant and completely lacking in imagination such as most Truthers and Birthers. Speaking of Truthers I also get pissed off when people try to use science to prove their point and do nothing but show an utter lack of any idea what they are talking about. The most annoying, though not conspiracy theorists, are the quantum mysticism crystal wavers. Every time I see someone saying that Schrodinger's Cat is actually both alive and dead several of my braincells commit suicide.

And I can't stand Dan Brown.

thaluikhain:

Shaoken:
The biggest argument I have against that train of thought is that it would be impossible to cover up; not only did you have all the people in NASA who would have to be involved, you also had to get the Australian government involved (because it was an Australian-operated RADAR Dish that connected Apollo 11 to NASA), you'd have to make a pretty convincing fake moon set (Mythbusters did a good episode showing that the things brought up as claims that it was staged were all untrue, not to mention that it'd be impossible to fake some things present in the video).

Oh, and the biggest one of them all; that the Soviet Union wouldn't cry foul if they thought anything was suspect. They certainly would have the means to detect if something was amiss (like there being no signal sent from the moon back to Earth for example).

As for the technology advancing so quickly, Sputnik kicked NASA into gear, you'd be suprised at what that can do for motivation. Technology can and demonstratably has improved by such leaps and bounds in less time.

Eh, all you need is the US government and scientist, and those of Australia and the USSR? Pft, that's not a far fetched conspiracy, not like chem-trails, which require every single operator of large aircraft in the whole to be in on it.

Still, the US Government can't keep a conspiracy of five people secret, how do they hope to accomplish it with one agency the size of NASA, several agencies belonging to another country (the people operating the RADAR dish, the people who transmit the data from the Dish to the US), and an entire country with no reason to go along with the hoax.

See ith the chem-trails all you need to do is brainwash the operators and you're set (seriously, that was someone's response when I pointed out the biggest flaw in the Illumanti thery).

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