Pseudo witty phrases that piss you off?

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A thread dedicated to all kinds of phrases and quotes in which the individual tried show wit, but instead only revealed their lack of brains. The one that I personally hate the most is 'I believe in Adam and Eve, not Adam and steve' on the basis that it portrays three levels of unapologetic absurdity. Homophobia, creationism, and the phrase its self just sounds kind of stupid. Personally I for one prefer Eve and Ada.

African nations having barbaric anti-sodomy laws tend to use the arguement that "It's our old, beautiful traditions that we need to keep and care for, you shut your mouth!"

I wonder, doesn't that allow me to claim that European colonialism and institutional racism is a "beautiful conservative value" that must be given special treatment and kept alive into the 21'st century?
It's the same thing, claiming that an abhorrent way to mistreat your fellow man for absolutly no reasonable cause (their ethnicity and their sexuality, neither is anything that hurt anyone else nor is it reason enough to murder anyone) is actually an old tradition of sorts to be kept around, like christmas trees or something.

Another classic is the good ol' "But it says so in the Bible (or other holy text) so it can't possibly be wrong! What more proof do you need?!"

It's an ancient text, cobbled together from random bits and scraps collected over several thousands of years, often given rather dodgy translations and interpretations during editing, with several bits left out. It's interesting, alright, and a piece of cultural heritage, but it's not perfect in any way. A sidenote are those extremists who says that the Koran is the only book in the world that matters, that all you need to know is in it. I somehow doubt that the Koran is much help for Iran's nuclear programme...

And for last:

"Free speech, looool!"
People seem to confuse freedom of speech with freedom of not being called on what you say. It comes with a responsibility as well, and just because you are allowed to say it, doesn't mean you are somehow above criticism.

"You certianly won't succeed if you don't try"...while that is true, it doesn't negate the many times when you certainly won't succeed even if you do try.

Oh, "conventional wisdom" or "common sense" get bandied about too much as well.

The american conservatives are making me hate the words freedom and constitution.
Also "traditional marriage", "family values" and "friend of israel".

Muspelheim:
African nations having barbaric anti-sodomy laws tend to use the arguement that "It's our old, beautiful traditions that we need to keep and care for, you shut your mouth!"

O_o

That was my countries excuse for ruling a good portion of those African Nations >.>

This sort of thing brings me to a quote I found recently by some Brit when addressing Indians who would burn a Widow with her dead husband. Its not really related but I found it funny xD

"This burning of widows is your custom; prepare the funeral pile. But my nation has also a custom. When men burn women alive we hang them, and confiscate all their property. My carpenters shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the widow is consumed. Let us all act according to national customs." - General Charles James Napier

A sophisticated way of saying: We are in charge. You can do it but we'll kill you for it.

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Mine without a doubt is "Now for the purposes of balance we go to..."

OK sometimes this is appropriate... but never do it to a scientist unless you bring out another scientist... don't bring out a commentator, a politician or a nut job...

Two phrases: "That's offensive!" and "That's so arrogant!".

I'm sure the fine posters here can guess the context for each.

Batou667:
"That's so arrogant!".

I'm sure the fine posters here can guess the context

If the context is correct then that one could be both appropriate or bloody daft.

If someone has left a 1 line comment stating something which others guage to be controversial then I'd be willing to side with that comment being something more reasonable to post, on the condition that said user is also willing to explain why they have said that the offending statement is arrogant. If that statement is there all by itself then... just...... urgh...

Equally if that statement is used in reply to a post where someone has actually written out their reasoning to think that and their reply is limited to just that without spesifying where the lack of experiance or knowlage leading to arrogance is... again... your lost for words even if you happen to agree thats the original statement was rather arrogant of the offending induvidual.

Sorry I just felt that your post needed expanding as without said expansion it could have appeared arrogant to particular induviduals :P
Who saw what I did there?

"Let's see you do better!"

To which I have two possible retorts:
1) "I am not a professional paid for it"
or, my favorite
2) "Unless you can do better yourself, your opinion is as valid as mine."

lSHaDoW-FoXl:
A thread dedicated to all kinds of phrases and quotes in which the individual tried show wit, but instead only revealed their lack of brains. The one that I personally hate the most is 'I believe in Adam and Eve, not Adam and steve' on the basis that it portrays three levels of unapologetic absurdity. Homophobia, creationism, and the phrase its self just sounds kind of stupid. Personally I for one prefer Eve and Ada.

"Team doesn't have an I in it"

Rebuttal: To quote House; "But it does have 'Me' if you jumble the letters a bit"

That old chestnut about "Atheism just takes your disbelieve in all gods but yours and extends it one further," or some such.

It is a reasonable enough statement to make in defense of atheism, as in when demonstrating that atheism is not necessarily a radical or controversial position. But unfortunately I've encountered far too many people who think that that little quip is an effective way to proselytize atheism- in other words they use it as an argument to try to convince others to adopt atheism. And that demonstrates that they couldn't have missed the point more if the point was on a rocket ship flying to Mars.

It's not a race to see who can believe in the fewest gods. Believing in fewer gods isn't in and of itself superior to believing in more gods. And yet still people choose to take an isolated line out of a book they apparently do not understand and quote it out of context in order to badger people into believing the same thing they d- HEY WAIT A TICK!

"What (they/he/she) doesn't know won't hurt (them/him/her)"

Among the most ridiculously stupid phrases in all of history, it serves as a general excuse for all kinds of moronic decisions, while being inherently untrue. What a person doesn't know tends to bite them in the ass on a regular basis.

'Because you can't prove it isn't real doesn't mean it isn't real'

^ Pisses. Me. Off.

No, we can't prove it doesn't exist, but we have proved every single other thing that we have ever stated...You, cannot claim to have proven anything.

Sorry, but I'm afraid that what we can prove far outstrips what you can't prove and what you can prove put together.

If there is evidence then it exists, if there is no evidence then it could exist. But that would be like me saying I shat golden wire yesterday...But it's invisible to anyone but me.

"But you don't KNOW that for SURE"
Ffffff...Ffsikfjlew4;wekflw KLG;J43WIOKA AAAAAAH.
Nobody actually knows ANYTHING for sure, but as long as we assume that things are real and are normal, can we have a discussion where you don't try to pick at the threads of reality as your defense?

the phrase 'put up or shut up' really pisses me off, in any context. The demand is totally unreasonable.

1. The horns of the dilemma are effectively synonymous. So right off the bat it is a logical fallacy
2. It is a poorly disguised attempt to bully someone out of the discussion.

Comando96:

Muspelheim:
African nations having barbaric anti-sodomy laws tend to use the arguement that "It's our old, beautiful traditions that we need to keep and care for, you shut your mouth!"

O_o

That was my countries excuse for ruling a good portion of those African Nations >.>

This sort of thing brings me to a quote I found recently by some Brit when addressing Indians who would burn a Widow with her dead husband. Its not really related but I found it funny xD

"This burning of widows is your custom; prepare the funeral pile. But my nation has also a custom. When men burn women alive we hang them, and confiscate all their property. My carpenters shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the widow is consumed. Let us all act according to national customs." - General Charles James Napier

A sophisticated way of saying: We are in charge. You can do it but we'll kill you for it.

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Mine without a doubt is "Now for the purposes of balance we go to..."

OK sometimes this is appropriate... but never do it to a scientist unless you bring out another scientist... don't bring out a commentator, a politician or a nut job...

i've got to say 'science knows it doesn't know everything, otherwise it'd stop' has become one of my favourite debate phrases. Along with "get in the sack".

"I'm selfish, impatient and a little insecure. I make mistakes, I am out of control and at times hard to handle. But if you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best." ― Marilyn Monroe

It's all over my facebook and it's a quote exclusively for people that are committed to making the same relationship mistakes in their teens as they are in their 30's and 40's.

'You can't prove it DOESN'T exist/happen/work.' - Theists/Astrologists/Crazy Herbal-Tea Ladies.
Exactly! And until you prove that a unicorn on a unicycle isn't the thing making the solar system spin, I'm going to believe that!
Seriously, it's the worst commonly used argument, and I'm surprised people actually use it considering it makes absolutely no sense and makes you look stupid.

surely the king of these kind of things is an over reliance on "logic"

its been my experience that people (and especially young men) usually discover and are seduced by "logic" during the process of trying to get a handle on the world and start to think it can be applied to virtually any subject and will somehow supply the obvious path to a supposedly singular and "logical" conclusion...

only problem is if that was actually the case we'd have solved a great many of the worlds problems and everyone would have agreed on the course of action to do so...

which is quite obviously not the case.

edit - if you want to talk things that are simply annoying (and simultaneous a glib claim of intellectual superiority) "try harder" would be near the top of my list...mainly because of anyone actually said that to me in RL conversation i'd probably just lamp them one at that point...

Sleekit:
surely the king of these kind of things is an over reliance on "logic"

its been my experience that people (and especially young men) usually discover and are seduced by "logic" during the process of trying to get a handle on the world and start to think it can be applied to virtually any subject and will somehow supply the obvious path to a supposedly singular and "logical" conclusion...

only problem is if that was actually the case we'd have solved a great many of the worlds problems and everyone would have agreed on the course of action to do so...

which is quite obviously not the case.

edit - if you want to talk things that are simply annoying (and simultaneous a glib claim of intellectual superiority) "try harder" would be near the top of my list...mainly because of anyone actually said that to me in RL conversation i'd probably just lamp them one at that point...

Exactly, there are some places where 'try harder' simply does not apply.

Comando96:

Muspelheim:
African nations having barbaric anti-sodomy laws tend to use the arguement that "It's our old, beautiful traditions that we need to keep and care for, you shut your mouth!"

O_o

That was my countries excuse for ruling a good portion of those African Nations >.>

This sort of thing brings me to a quote I found recently by some Brit when addressing Indians who would burn a Widow with her dead husband. Its not really related but I found it funny xD

"This burning of widows is your custom; prepare the funeral pile. But my nation has also a custom. When men burn women alive we hang them, and confiscate all their property. My carpenters shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the widow is consumed. Let us all act according to national customs." - General Charles James Napier

A sophisticated way of saying: We are in charge. You can do it but we'll kill you for it.

Why do I get the feeling you've watched Jeremy Paxman's BBC series "Empire"?

ReservoirAngel:
Why do I get the feeling you've watched Jeremy Paxman's BBC series "Empire"?

Because I have :) I also have the book that was being sold and saw him at the Cheltenham Literature festival discussing the Book before a TV series was in the works... I won the bet it would become a series on the BBC xD
I also saw Ian Hislop for the Private Eye 50th anniversary there too.

I like History am very enthusiastic about it, but you need starting points. You often find TV programs are good places to start, expecially the BBC... because often the BBC gives a TV series to authors of good quality books. Paxman being the lastest in this trend.

The recent series The Crusades: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01b3fpw/episodes/guide
His FUCKING HUGE book:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Crusades-War-Holy-Land/dp/0743268601

Or else default to getting Dan Snow to host a series xD

Comando96:

ReservoirAngel:
Why do I get the feeling you've watched Jeremy Paxman's BBC series "Empire"?

Because I have :) I also have the book that was being sold and saw him at the Cheltenham Literature festival discussing the Book before a TV series was in the works... I won the bet it would become a series on the BBC xD
I also saw Ian Hislop for the Private Eye 50th anniversary there too.

I like History am very enthusiastic about it, but you need starting points. You often find TV programs are good places to start, expecially the BBC... because often the BBC gives a TV series to authors of good quality books. Paxman being the lastest in this trend.

The recent series The Crusades: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01b3fpw/episodes/guide
His FUCKING HUGE book:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Crusades-War-Holy-Land/dp/0743268601

Or else default to getting Dan Snow to host a series xD

The Crusades wasn't bad actually! There was a little pro-christian bias, but not nearly as much as you get in most western commentators that talk about it.
I'd fully recommend BBC documentaries, and not just historical ones. They tend to be far better than equivalents from Sky or whatever. They should give David Attenborough a state funeral!

Comando96:

ReservoirAngel:
Why do I get the feeling you've watched Jeremy Paxman's BBC series "Empire"?

Because I have :) I also have the book that was being sold and saw him at the Cheltenham Literature festival discussing the Book before a TV series was in the works... I won the bet it would become a series on the BBC xD
I also saw Ian Hislop for the Private Eye 50th anniversary there too.

I like History am very enthusiastic about it, but you need starting points. You often find TV programs are good places to start, expecially the BBC... because often the BBC gives a TV series to authors of good quality books. Paxman being the lastest in this trend.

The recent series The Crusades: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01b3fpw/episodes/guide
His FUCKING HUGE book:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Crusades-War-Holy-Land/dp/0743268601

Or else default to getting Dan Snow to host a series xD

Yeah I'm not exactly what you'd call a History buff but I decided to check out Empire and it was really interesting to me. But I felt it didn't go into enough detail so I now temporarily own a gigantic book all about the rise and fall of the British Empire (not the book Paxman has about the Empire, I didn't even know that existed until just now, but a different book). Mostly because it kinda fascinates me, partially because I'm trying to write a fantasy novel and I need to know realistically how non-military Empires work. By that I mean how Empires that didn't take over by just invading places got into power and how they operated.

I wasn't aware there was a BBC series about the Crusades. I may have to look that one up too. Now if only they'd go a series about the English Civil War...

My personal favorite is this, "The fool has said in his heart, "There is no God."". It's been used as a scripturally supported reason for calling me stupid by far too many Christians. Not saying I'm necessarily smarter than them, just that I'm no fool.

WouldYouKindly:
My personal favorite is this, "The fool has said in his heart, "There is no God."". It's been used as a scripturally supported reason for calling me stupid by far too many Christians. Not saying I'm necessarily smarter than them, just that I'm no fool.

I've seen people use scripture to justify calling liberals stupid and misguided fools. Particular passage is Ecclesiastes 10:2 which says "The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."

Clearly the people who quote this don't realise that left-and-right-wing politics, as we know them, date back to the French Revolution. Don't really remember ever hearing that Biblical times had partisan politics and governments.

Sleekit:
surely the king of these kind of things is an over reliance on "logic"

its been my experience that people (and especially young men) usually discover and are seduced by "logic" during the process of trying to get a handle on the world and start to think it can be applied to virtually any subject and will somehow supply the obvious path to a supposedly singular and "logical" conclusion...

only problem is if that was actually the case we'd have solved a great many of the worlds problems and everyone would have agreed on the course of action to do so...

which is quite obviously not the case.

Exactly this. I would type more but there's not much left to say. I know that this happened to me when I was about 14, but I'm not sure what ended the phase. It might have partly been when I actually read a book on logic and was taught its limitations, but I feel its more that that. Any ideas?

Muspelheim:

"Free speech, looool!"
People seem to confuse freedom of speech with freedom of not being called on what you say. It comes with a responsibility as well, and just because you are allowed to say it, doesn't mean you are somehow above criticism.

That one, more than almost anything else, really grinds my gears.

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There are people who feel that all opinions are equally valid, and that criticism of one's opinion is somehow a violation of their First Amendment rights. Those people are criminally stupid and deserve their own wing in the Idiot's Hall of Fame.

"If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all."

To which i reply fuck you you stupid moron, i won't lie and say i'm always constructive in my criticism because people do bring out the worst in me, but in the end without criticism nothing improves, so you shouldn't totally turn yourself off to all negative opinions.

"There is no such thing as a stupid question."

Yes there fucking is. More important to put thought into a question than just ask things at random. Take The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy as my proof; "What is the meaning to life, the universe, and everything" is such a vague and stupid question they were bound to get a confusing answer. 42.

There are a few more, but those are the big ones, the stupid shit my elementary school teachers tried to present as wisdom.

Pyramid Head:
"There is no such thing as a stupid question."

There is no such thing as a stupid question, only stupid people who ask questions.

Tyler Perry:

Muspelheim:

"Free speech, looool!"
People seem to confuse freedom of speech with freedom of not being called on what you say. It comes with a responsibility as well, and just because you are allowed to say it, doesn't mean you are somehow above criticism.

That one, more than almost anything else, really grinds my gears.

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There are people who feel that all opinions are equally valid, and that criticism of one's opinion is somehow a violation of their First Amendment rights. Those people are criminally stupid and deserve their own wing in the Idiot's Hall of Fame.

Oh, my friend, you seem mistaken. You see, all opinions ARE equally valid.

Doesn't mean they're all equally intelligent.

I use the same phrase for religion, actually... >_>

Averant:

Oh, my friend, you seem mistaken. You see, all opinions ARE equally valid.

Doesn't mean they're all equally intelligent.

I use the same phrase for religion, actually... >_>

No, they're not. The opinion, for example, that black people are intellectually inferior is NOT valid in any way. There's opinions that are based on objective, quantifiable facts; and then there's opinions based on bullshit. Opinions based on bullshit are NOT valid.

Tyler Perry:

Averant:

Oh, my friend, you seem mistaken. You see, all opinions ARE equally valid.

Doesn't mean they're all equally intelligent.

I use the same phrase for religion, actually... >_>

No, they're not. The opinion, for example, that black people are intellectually inferior is NOT valid in any way. There's opinions that are based on objective, quantifiable facts; and then there's opinions based on bullshit. Opinions based on bullshit are NOT valid.

Let me put it this way: You're opinion is valid. It's just that the blatant stupidity in the opinion invalidates it. It's valid, It's just too stupid to be taken seriously.

EDIT: the "you" is not you, tyler, it's a general "you". just to be clear. :P

Averant:

Tyler Perry:

Averant:

Oh, my friend, you seem mistaken. You see, all opinions ARE equally valid.

Doesn't mean they're all equally intelligent.

I use the same phrase for religion, actually... >_>

No, they're not. The opinion, for example, that black people are intellectually inferior is NOT valid in any way. There's opinions that are based on objective, quantifiable facts; and then there's opinions based on bullshit. Opinions based on bullshit are NOT valid.

Let me put it this way: You're opinion is valid. It's just that the blatant stupidity in the opinion invalidates it. It's valid, It's just too stupid to be taken seriously.

EDIT: the "you" is not you, tyler, it's a general "you". just to be clear. :P

Better to phrase it like this: All opinions are equally subjective. There is no objective way to say that one opinion is more valid than another. But we operate in a democratic society paradigm which gives us a very subjective but nonetheless perfectly serviceable justification for calling certain opinions invalid.

Popadoo:
Exactly! And until you prove that a unicorn on a unicycle isn't the thing making the solar system spin, I'm going to believe that!

Well durr everyone knows that powers the Solar system.

Every morning Princess Celestia............ xD

I'm not even going to bother as you can guess the joke here xD I can't keep a strait face while tpying this even xD

nyysjan:
The american conservatives are making me hate the words freedom and constitution.
Also "traditional marriage", "family values" and "friend of israel".

Uggh, you're right. Those phrases give me a huge migraine. Fucking Conservative.

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