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The typical opinion is that the rest of the world seems very foreign and exotic to us even places like England but I would hope that's the same for most other countries that think about a country on the other side of the world. People don't have too many bad opinions of first world nations except for places like Greece or Italy for their riots and corruption.

Overall americans selectively choose when they hate a country depending on the current conversation. But if your any other country you always hate on America.

Edit: maybe this is my inadequate american education showing but mexico isn't mexico it's the united states of mexico... the things your learn from CNN.

Living in a red state I'd like to apologize for my less-informed brethren, the people who don't think evolution is real, think the planet is approx. 6000 years old, and believe that they one day will be millionaires if they pray hard enough so always, always vote against their interest. I am the one voice of reason amid a crowd of dark-age bigotry and chaos and I apologize because they have no idea how their views make us appear to everyone else. I sit here without meaningful employment because 30 years of deregulation have led companies to think they can act however they want without consequence. I am neither fat nor do I carry dillusions of patriotic grandeur. I know my country is terrible to ourselves and to the rest of the world and would gladly apply for citizenship someplace with socialized medicine and a more liberal slant. Sadly I have no money and it's a long walk from the midwest to Canada.

Captcha: Round Table. Maybe GB would be a good move as well.

The United States is the capital of Capitalism and all the other nations are its subjects.

I'm pretty sure it was less than fifty years ago when we overthrew a government over them nationalizing the fucking banana industry, and there are only a handful of countries we could roll over just as easily.

The rest of the world exists because our companies haven't had a reason to have our government destroy it yet.

We keep order when we feel like it and bring destruction when that suits us better.

It's a damn shame for the progression of mankind that y'all don't unite to give us a collective kick in our asses. We truly need it.

Revnak:
I like people. I like it when people like people. I don't like it when people don't like people. I am developing a rather extreme distaste for the Netherlands, but that is in contradiction to my normal philosophy so I am trying to get past it. I believe that surmises my stance.

Just curious, but what exactly is so bad about the Netherlands?

OT: Based mostly on personal experiences and not anything that could really be taken seriously,

Germany: Hard working industrious people.
France: Careless people, so many houses in such a bad state in the rural parts.
Belgium: Cool people, good beer too.
Italy: Not the smartest tools in the shed... I mean really... you elected Berlusconi?
America: Too many people too caught up in their own ideologies.
South Africa: Country obsessed with the past and the future, paying little to no attention to the present.
Northern Europe: Probably the smartest people out there, even smart enough to keep quiet about it.
Japan: Might as well be aliens, these guys are weird...

But yeah, that's just my silly generalizations based on basically nothing at all. Generally try to judge people as individuals, not as hive-minds based on nationality.

Hagi:

Revnak:
I like people. I like it when people like people. I don't like it when people don't like people. I am developing a rather extreme distaste for the Netherlands, but that is in contradiction to my normal philosophy so I am trying to get past it. I believe that surmises my stance.

Just curious, but what exactly is so bad about the Netherlands?

OT: Based mostly on personal experiences and not anything that could really be taken seriously,

Germany: Hard working industrious people.
France: Careless people, so many houses in such a bad state in the rural parts.
Belgium: Cool people, good beer too.
Italy: Not the smartest tools in the shed... I mean really... you elected Berlusconi?
America: Too many people too caught up in their own ideologies.
South Africa: Country obsessed with the past and the future, paying little to no attention to the present.
Northern Europe: Probably the smartest people out there, even smart enough to keep quiet about it.
Japan: Might as well be aliens, these guys are weird...

But yeah, that's just my silly generalizations based on basically nothing at all. Generally try to judge people as individuals, not as hive-minds based on nationality.

My only exposure to them is the posters on this website. The issue I tend to care most about is immigration, which I am rather radically in support of. The posters from that region... are not. For very poor reasons, or rather the same reasons that always pop up regarding the issue which are all rather bad. However, I do not agree with hating others or making vast unscientific generalizations, so it is an issue I am trying to get past.

Revnak:

Hagi:

Revnak:
I like people. I like it when people like people. I don't like it when people don't like people. I am developing a rather extreme distaste for the Netherlands, but that is in contradiction to my normal philosophy so I am trying to get past it. I believe that surmises my stance.

Just curious, but what exactly is so bad about the Netherlands?

OT: Based mostly on personal experiences and not anything that could really be taken seriously,

Germany: Hard working industrious people.
France: Careless people, so many houses in such a bad state in the rural parts.
Belgium: Cool people, good beer too.
Italy: Not the smartest tools in the shed... I mean really... you elected Berlusconi?
America: Too many people too caught up in their own ideologies.
South Africa: Country obsessed with the past and the future, paying little to no attention to the present.
Northern Europe: Probably the smartest people out there, even smart enough to keep quiet about it.
Japan: Might as well be aliens, these guys are weird...

But yeah, that's just my silly generalizations based on basically nothing at all. Generally try to judge people as individuals, not as hive-minds based on nationality.

My only exposure to them is the posters on this website. The issue I tend to care most about is immigration, which I am rather radically in support of. The posters from that region... are not. For very poor reasons, or rather the same reasons that always pop up regarding the issue which are all rather bad. However, I do not agree with hating others or making vast unscientific generalizations, so it is an issue I am trying to get past.

Ah yeah...

We have a few of those...

Used to be extremely heavy on immigration and integration here in the Netherlands. Then some populist politicians came along who blamed all economic and criminal troubles on immigrants and yeah... here we are...

It's not all of us though, not even most I'd say. Just a lot of very vocal ones.

Hagi:

Revnak:

Hagi:

Just curious, but what exactly is so bad about the Netherlands?

OT: Based mostly on personal experiences and not anything that could really be taken seriously,

Germany: Hard working industrious people.
France: Careless people, so many houses in such a bad state in the rural parts.
Belgium: Cool people, good beer too.
Italy: Not the smartest tools in the shed... I mean really... you elected Berlusconi?
America: Too many people too caught up in their own ideologies.
South Africa: Country obsessed with the past and the future, paying little to no attention to the present.
Northern Europe: Probably the smartest people out there, even smart enough to keep quiet about it.
Japan: Might as well be aliens, these guys are weird...

But yeah, that's just my silly generalizations based on basically nothing at all. Generally try to judge people as individuals, not as hive-minds based on nationality.

My only exposure to them is the posters on this website. The issue I tend to care most about is immigration, which I am rather radically in support of. The posters from that region... are not. For very poor reasons, or rather the same reasons that always pop up regarding the issue which are all rather bad. However, I do not agree with hating others or making vast unscientific generalizations, so it is an issue I am trying to get past.

Ah yeah...

We have a few of those...

Used to be extremely heavy on immigration and integration here in the Netherlands. Then some populist politicians came along who blamed all economic and criminal troubles on immigrants and yeah... here we are...

It's not all of us though, not even most I'd say. Just a lot of very vocal ones.

I kinda realized that and had been assuming as much for some time. It is nice to see people actually coming out and saying such groups don't represent them. I suppose this is kinda like what people feel when they are in some way shown not all Americans are bitter homophobes.

I am not the average American, so I wouldn't know. This is what I think about other countries.

Canada:Bad Gas prices, measure 1/8 of a gallion vs USA. Black day in their air force was when one of their aircraft with 1300 plus miles n the 60's was cancel. Quebec gets the most government benefits, and only has sighs in French

Mexico:Bad Government. Cartels. Good food. Cinco de mayo?

England: They drink tea which I also do sometimes. The royal family. A very low gun crime rate.

Ireland: Most Beer. Conflict in the North with the IRA

Scotland: Golf, and brave heart

Wales: Good cakes, and chocolates

France: Fine they help us build our nation, left us in a few wars, but I wouldn't go their for a vacation

Russia: Tanks. We copy some of their stuff they copy allot more. Ak-47's. Corrupted elections ( they are not the only ways thro................)

Germany: Hard Working people, and the leader, and the thing that holds the EU together.

Northern Europe: Snow. Low population

Mediterranean Countries: Italy, and a island called sicily. The Mafia.

Northern Africa: The west part is poorer than the east. Egypt with the Suez Canal.

Mid and South Africa: The Mid part is very poor. South Africa is allot better off, and their founder was a good guy.

Central America: Very Poor, and Panama?

South America: Brazil is better rich, and their are lots of jungle besides Chile with mountains

Middle East: Oil, sand, and conflict.

India: Very low infastruce on some parts, and telemarketers

Siberia: Trees, and cold.

Mongolia: Mongal Empire, and normadic herders.

China: Biggest popuation, so-so goverment I guess. Martialarts, and outsourcing jobs.

Vietnam: Somewhat poor. Beat us in a war.

Japan: Frozen fish, somewhat American like, PSN

Philippines: Poor, but somewhat better all vs other places

New Guinea Islands: A set of jungles, and small towns

Australia: Restricted government vs games. You can still buy a bolt action rifle. Ozone layer

New Zealand: Australla's neighter

I've never been anywhere else.

mavkiel:
Interesting places to visit. One could actually think about living in one of those countries. Even if some of the food is a god awful. (Looking at you UK.)

How can you not like these?

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Da Orky Man:

mavkiel:
Interesting places to visit. One could actually think about living in one of those countries. Even if some of the food is a god awful. (Looking at you UK.)

How can you not like these?

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Anyhow diet/frozen food are probably not the best gauge of judging a cultures food. We in the US would lose because of crap like

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France: Sissies

UK: Awesome countries, funny accents; also where 75% of my heritage came from

Australia: You guys got some expensive games

NZ: Not enough knowledge to speculate

My own Country? I love America

French American here, well I didn't actually set foot in the US over 4 years sadly.

I find the U.S to be one of the stupidest nations ever unfortunately, the political environment is plain poisonous with each party opposing the other one because they don't know how to do any thing else, and they never fail to make me laugh when they talk about Democrats being "lefties" an "SOCIALIST DEVILLLS". Loved who they qualified Obamacare as an evil communist socialist scheme from the government to take control over your lifes (it is even more hilarious since here in France we have this but 10 times better and we didn't become a communist country yet)

The U.S love to bully other country's because "TERRORISM" or other silly stuff, and they just don't care about the rules because "THIS 'MERICA, WE MAKE DA RULZES" (Megaupload, wikileaks for some examples).
I don't think that the U.S i a bad place but it is getting worse over time and they will eventually become the new china if it continues on the same downhill road (or the extremist Republicans win next elections), but i do that allot of people are very nice and friendly, unfortunately as a foreigner I can only see how stupid people can be in the U.S.
The thing that I dislike the most is that the U.S have such a huge impact on the rest of the world and that they are ruled by morons (the president is "just" a public figure, the senate (i think it is called like that) has the power).

Tl;Dr: The U.S is not a bad country but is really really dumb and has way too much influence on the rest of the world.

Germany, Sweden, in fact most of north Europe/scandinavia I've been to: Beautiful country, clean, orderly, excellent beer, good food, people a bit standoffish at first.

England: Same language helps with the people, lot of odd traditions we only notice because so much else is similar compared to other nations. And christ can they drink, almost as much as the inhabitants of...

Russia: Absolute shithole of a country, fucked politics, corruption so rampant as to be total and complete. Nothing is done without a bribe. The vast majority of adult males are alcoholics, like serious, serious alcoholics. People are incredibly hospitable and warm, drop by your house any time of the day or night, put out their whole week's worth of food when they have visitors. People oddly imperialistic, xenophobic and nationalistic, much moreso even than the US. Must be the propaganda in schools. Great saunas (Banya).

Afghanistan: Is still in the middle ages. Nothing comes out of the place but violence, incest and heroin. Absolutely without redeeming qualities. Where people should go to let their multicultural sensibilities die.

Iraq: Sectarian hellhole. Everyone hates everyone and lives in fear of everything. The only areas that are reasonably orderly are the ones that have been ethnically (or religiously) cleansed of all other groups, like the Kurdistan area, or the Shia south. My experience doesn't really extend to the people very much, so I can't comment.

Italy: The best food anywhere, people superficially friendly at least (less so in touristy areas). I'm amazed the country hasn't imploded, so few people seem to work, but good for them.

Finally, in terms of how the US is viewed, we get a bad rap, and some of it is deserved. But the thing to remember is that we are a world superpower. For all the nations who criticize our politics and policies, they might like to remember how they acted when they had the sort of power we do now. Britain colonized most of the globe, Spain gutted a continent and stripmined it into the stone age. Germany launched two world wars, Russia violently dominated half of europe and asia. France invaded well, everyone, and colonized North Africa. Belgian Congo, anyone? We act in our interest, and sometimes against it. We make mistakes, but I doubt anyone could seriously entertain the notion that American hegemony has not been an improvement on the previous ones. At least we are self-critical, which is the means whereby bad policy is mitigated. I don't justify everything my country does, but much of the foreign criticism is merely cultural hipsterism, the hatred of the biggest thing going. It's cool to lionize tiny cultures without the power to project their faults to the world, but quite frankly, I doubt anyone would be happier with Chinese hegemony, or Polish or Brazilian. Someone is always on top, and they cop the majority of criticism, whether they deserve it or not. Right now, it's the American age, so criticize away. We're not all fat, stupid, jingoistic rednecks, but if that makes you feel better about your GDP and lack of foreign policy clout, knock yourselves out. I should note here that much of the most virulent criticism comes from americans, which is both hilariously annoying at times and good for the nation as a whole. One can always mark a shitty country by the lack of internal criticism.

France : AMAZING food, great wine and booze (le genepi), we have a stupid president (best example: gay marriage is authorized YAY!, BUT the mayor can refuse to do it, huh?), we are horrible with tourist while being a touristy country ( OH THE IRONY, IT BUURNS), and we suck at being organized and punctual.

US : good meat, bad food, the worlds bully, stupid laws every where (I can't eat in a restaurant that serves whine if I'm not 21, just don't serve me the damn thing and let me eat), one of the "developed" country's with the most religious nut cases around (they even got into the government) and just proud of their own failures "CAUSE WE CAN'T FAIL, THE REST OF THE WORLD FAILS TO UNDERSTAND HOW AWESOME IT IS".

Italy: dirty, bad mouthing, crazy drivers, nasty people bu t some good monuments.

Germany: law order work, and OKTOBERFEST!!

England : Fish'n'chips, not bad humor (all hail Mounty Python), stuck up about Europe.

Kentuckian here:

Yes, America gets involved in everyone's problems, and that's why everyone "dislikes" us. Until we stop helping out. Pretty sure during almost every major natural disaster that has devastated another country The United States is the first one respond and actually sustain a relief effort. examples include : Recent Japanese tsunami, the 2004 (I think) Tsunami in Indonesia, and the Haiti earthquake. Plus all the billions of dollars we send to other countries in federal aid (Pakistan, Colombia, Israel, Egypt,ect.)

Now here is a poorly executed list of reasons for Americas business in the world.

America is the only nation standing between Taiwan and China, no U.S. means a Chinese takeover of Taiwan and several other small states in the pacific region. Japan would be at great risk as well. (Japan has an impressive defense force which I'm sure would do well at its job, but Japan has limited force projection power due to its Constitution, and therefore would be limited to only self defense for a few years.)

How many bases does the United States military have in Europe? Enough to support 70,000+ US military personnel. Yes , if the EU combined its forces and united it could produce an impressive superpower that could rival The United States, but European Nations seem selfish, anyone recall the Balkan Civil war in the 90's? if I recall correctly it took about 3 years and a genocide to bring the EU in to take care of it self. When tensions built up again later instead of the EU preventing a future war it was America that stepped in. We sent in peacekeepers and made the region relatively stable.

Iraq is free of its dictator and has a "stable" democracy. We are trying to free Afghanistan from Taliban rule but it doesn't help if the Afghans don't want to help fight for their own freedom. They rely too much on American support.

America's mission is to help out the people of the world, we try to help but people hate us for it.

As what I think of other countries?

I think they could do more for the International cause, the UN is a joke, its military is the United States. I've been to Great Britain and it was an awesome vacation, people were nice and everyone got along. I don't have a problem with the people its just the government. I believe Europe could step up its game on the battlefield more. I believe they are trying (Libya, and the current Syria) but without US support NATO is extremely weak. I have nothing against Europeans in general, I just hate the bigoted ones who think the US is the scourge of the Earth.

This goes back to force projection, the United States has a premier blue water Navy, which has the Marine Corps. We can be anywhere in the world with a capable fighting force withing 24 hours. MEU (Marine expeditionary units) are stationed in every theatre and with the help of 9 Nimitz class super-carriers, no other nation is capable of competing with our military.

Now what do I think of other Americans? Just people, like everywhere else. Some ignorant, some smart. And despite common misconception that southern ex-confederate states are filled with gun-toting rednecks who hate Yankees and believe in white supremacy we aren't. Ever heard of southern courtesy? The people in Dixie are some of the nicest people one will ever meet.

Spartan448 obviously hasn't had a good representation of southern peoples. Perhaps some people *cough Rick Perry* give us a bad name and poorly represent us.

America is the lead symbol of the free world. I certainly believe with all my heart that America is the greatest country in the world. Patriotism aside, the people worst off in the US have a way better life than some that have the best in other countries. The government gives out food stamps and welfare checks to help poorer families get buy, (government housing too).

Yes, I do realize our political system is crap, but what political system isn't? The United States has its own problems but we can hold our own.

Fisher321:
Kentuckian here:

Yes, America gets involved in everyone's problems, and that's why everyone "dislikes" us. Until we stop helping out. Pretty sure during almost every major natural disaster that has devastated another country The United States is the first one respond and actually sustain a relief effort. examples include : Recent Japanese tsunami, the 2004 (I think) Tsunami in Indonesia, and the Haiti earthquake. Plus all the billions of dollars we send to other countries in federal aid (Pakistan, Colombia, Israel, Egypt,ect.)

I don't like resorting to internet captioned images for this, but...I would really love to see how much you helped out here.

Fisher321:
anyone recall the Balkan Civil war in the 90's? if I recall correctly it took about 3 years and a genocide to bring the EU in to take care of it self.

"Itself"? Mate, only one of the ex-Yugo counties is even in the EU, entered in 2000, and is the one that has not been involved in the conflict in the first place save for a 10 day war for independendce in 1991. To say EU would be taking care of "itself" would be like saying USA would be taking care of "itself" by intervening in a civil war in Nicaragua...oh wait, yes, I wonder how that country fits onto the "helped by USA" list.

America's mission is to help out the people of the world, we try to help but people hate us for it.

Actually, I think I'll stop here. Nothing personal, but I'll have to be in a better and less stressed mood before I go on here.

I am an American. It's a nice place to live, but I wouldn't want to visit.
Most of the ignorant redneck 'Murica lovers are from the South, and you know how those people are. Unfortunately, they're what the world thinks of when they think of us. Also, our government should stop sticking it's nose where it doesn't belong. Here's what I think of the world:

Europe: Germany is great, Scandanavia is also pretty great.
British Isles: Thanks for creating 'Murica. You have only yourselves to blame ;)
France:meh.
Mediterranean countries: well... they got good food at least.
Eastern Europe: it's over there.

Australia: Nice beaches and animals... and vast wasteland.
New Zealand: Nice Middle-Earth you have there.
Canada: Nice free health care. Otherwise, not much to say. Quit sending us all your celebrities, we have plenty.
Central America: So, any bloody coups this week?
South America: Not bad.

China: Orwellian nightmare? but they gave us some great restaurants.
Japan: Awesome. Samurai, technology, nerd culture, and all kinds of weirdness.
India: pretty good food, Bollywood, tech support (you need to work on your accent, guys. Just sayin')

Middle East: You're just lucky you have oil. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to rebuild every time you blow each other back into the stone age. (With a little help from our imperialist government).

Northern Africa: Since you're apparently part of this whole "Arab Spring" thing, I'll give you time to sort your S*** out before passing judgment. But seriously? Sort that S*** out.
Sub-Saharan Africa: Oh gosh, you poor, poor people. It sucks to be you.

In short, If I were rich I'd move to Europe... Northern Europe. Since I'm poor, I'll stick with what I got here in the states... or maybe flee to Canada eventually.

The country is beautiful, it's politics are based in some very good ideas. I really do love the ideals of the Enlightenment. Excellent initiative, poor execution, I suppose.

I'm generally quite interested in people from other countries. I've always liked to travel and meet new people. Since I've been in Germany, in fact, I've tried to travel to a new city every weekend I have off. Once my passport comes in, I'll expand that to every four-day weekend in a new country. The people I've met in Europe are very nice people, for the most part, if a little more stand-offish compared to Americans and Canadians. They warm up to you quickly once you get over that, though. The Asians I've met are usually very withdrawn, but I think that has more to do with cultural barriers and feeling isolated than some trait. They're very nice people once you get over that. The Arabs I've met tended towards being loud and passionate. I tried my hand at learning the language, and it's really quite beautiful. South Americans are similar to Arabs in a lot of ways. I've never met an African who wasn't exceedingly warm. Great food as well. I have yet to meet an Australian or New Zealander in person. I haven't really had any bad experiences, but maybe I just see the good in people. Like I said, I'm very interested in people.

As an American who has lived abroad for most of the last decade, I've found it a mixed bag. Everyone everywhere tends to have the same hopes and dreams and motivations and desires, albeit modulated to one extent or another by values that make them different. Different cultures end up expressing themselves in different ways. Let's see, simple quip-ish opinions... opinions of no weight and shaped to amuse. Any offense you may take shall be interpreted as an invitation to fornicate with your mother, your of-age sister if applicable, and grandparents.

England: culturally sophisticated, except when sports are involved. The only people outside of North America who can fix a decent breakfast. Have adopted curry in lieu of a palatable national cuisine. Contains at least as many overweight women as the U.S but seem unaware of it. Sometimes distrustful of immigrants.

Scotland: a land of manly men, red-haired lasses, paint thinner (called "whiskey"), and rainy, beautiful countryside. Same female obesity problem as the U.K., which they do not like to be lumped together with. Edinburgh has a wonderful taco joint on Leigh Walk.

Germany: quiet, well-dressed, stylish people who give up half of their income in taxes on the assumption that everyone else in the nation is doing so as well, rather than going on the dole. Quietly anti-Semitic, frequently conspiracy theorists, excellent neighbors, generally clean and squared-away. Cuisine tends heavily towards pork and carbohydrates. Distrustful of immigrants.

Italy, Spain, Portugal, and everywhere else that touches the Mediterranean: Full of people with a fatalistic "que sera, sera" attitude which leads to laziness and graft. Laziness and degree of graft per region vary inversely with the average year-round temperature.
Wonderful cuisine which makes up for most of their other failings.

BeNeLux: a hodgepodge of regional sub-cultures which may appear homogenous to the outside observer, this trio of countries quietly goes about their business whilst trying very hard to differentiate themselves from each other and their larger neighbors. Lovely towns, although the country runs towards flatness, which explains why so many of them spend summer holidays in places with actual terrain such as Germany.

Eastern Europe: Quite fond of Americans, stunningly beautiful women (excepting the Czech Republic), still reasonably affordable as they haven't been ruined by the Euro yet.

France: for my own part, the people have been polite enough to me- both in Paris and the other regions I've visited. (Note: Alsace-Lorraine and Picardy, to be specific) Paris itself is quite dirty and expensive. Other travelers have related personal experiences which validate the stereotype of rudeness.

Pakistan: Awful climate, lovely women, fascinating food, contains examples of people from nearly every level of cultural development from urban sophistication to Iron Age-equivalent. Be prepared for casual homosexuality.

the Arab side of the Persian Gulf: You are the only people in the world whose dress makes any sense to me. Why can't more cultures adopt business clothing which is comfortable yet functional?

Republic of Korea: Many unpleasant smells- fermented cabbage, raw sewage, and other less-identifiable whiffs. Populated by people busily going about their lives whilst living in utterly depressing slab-like apartment complexes, never shedding so much as a drop of sweat. Highly variable cuisine. Female obesity nearly unheard of. Unpleasant weather. Culture as utterly incomprehensible to me as any other developed Asian nation's.

In general, I am saddened by the tendency of Europeans to accept higher levels of petty governmental tyranny, but this is explained to some extent by their history and their comparatively passive temper.
Edited to swap a there for a their and to specify which sister I'm talking about.

Fisher321:
Pretty sure during almost every major natural disaster that has devastated another country The United States is the first one respond and actually sustain a relief effort. examples include : Recent Japanese tsunami, the 2004 (I think) Tsunami in Indonesia, and the Haiti earthquake. Plus all the billions of dollars we send to other countries in federal aid (Pakistan, Colombia, Israel, Egypt,ect.)

Not entirely true. Assuming "the first one respond" is hyperbole, the US spends a relatively low (compared to GDP) amount of money on foreign aid. A substantial amount of that goes to Israel, and IIRC, can only be spent on US military products. The US is therefore keeping its arms business in money doing that. Certainly, it helps the IDF, but if they just gave them the money the IDF would have the option of buying from, say, European arms manufacturers.

Fisher321:
Japan would be at great risk as well. (Japan has an impressive defense force which I'm sure would do well at its job, but Japan has limited force projection power due to its Constitution, and therefore would be limited to only self defense for a few years.)

Japan's constitution is the way it is on the understanding that Western powers would be in the area, mind. They'd have a mighty force of their own were this not the case, which is why Western powers took such an interest in the region.

Fisher321:
Iraq is free of its dictator and has a "stable" democracy. We are trying to free Afghanistan from Taliban rule but it doesn't help if the Afghans don't want to help fight for their own freedom. They rely too much on American support.

Iraq is far from stable, and ISAF isn't fighting the Taliban so much as it's fighting the groups that spring up without a Taliban to keep them down.

Fisher321:
America's mission is to help out the people of the world, we try to help but people hate us for it.

Bullshit.

Fisher321:
America is the lead symbol of the free world. I certainly believe with all my heart that America is the greatest country in the world. Patriotism aside, the people worst off in the US have a way better life than some that have the best in other countries. The government gives out food stamps and welfare checks to help poorer families get buy, (government housing too).

Bullshit. Especially if you were to compare the US against nations that weren't third world.

Well, I'm American and I think our country has more issues than the Titanic. Horrible Higher education costs with a financial aid system almost designed to put students knee deep in debt, elitism, lack of understanding other nations view points but pretending to anyway for publicity, and a government that seems to be disconnected from the nation it is trying to run. I'm kind of hoping that my generation is just living through some kind of really bad phase and that if we keep voting for progressive candidates we might actually start catching up to Europe... Not saying Europe doesn't have it's own problems.

As for my opinion of other nations... Well, my favorite country at the moment is Germany, as they seem to have a rather effective democratic government, some of my favorite styles of architecture, and a language that is actually kind of fun to learn.

I like America, but it doesn't like me very much.

Everyday, I'm hearing slews of people from both sides of the aisle lay at my doorstep why my success, prosperity, and happiness are somehow detrimental to the country and it's well being.

According to left wingers, it's the same old tired white privledge bullshit and my work in the firearms trade.

According to right wingers...ho boy...I'm not only a net drain to society based on my income, I'm also part of it's moral decline and loss of God's protection because society doesn't throw me in the klink for being homosexual.

as for the rest of the world, I've not been abroad, so I can only speculate on a few places here and there. Japan can fuck off given it's rampant xenophobia and style of racial policies that the US kicked to the curb decades ago. Can't stand the idea of being in the UK on the basis of it's self defense policies. About the only place I can say with certainty that I'd be a lot more comfortable culturally would be Sweden.

Fisher321:
Some ignorant, some smart. And despite common misconception that southern ex-confederate states are filled with gun-toting rednecks who hate Yankees and believe in white supremacy we aren't. Ever heard of southern courtesy? The people in Dixie are some of the nicest people one will ever meet.

Spartan448 obviously hasn't had a good representation of southern peoples. Perhaps some people *cough Rick Perry* give us a bad name and poorly represent us.

Sorry, but I'm a born and bred Virginian in the blue ridge mountains, and a lot of the negative stereotypes about the south, we bring down on our own heads. People here in my region still call black people n!ggers without batting an eyelash, plenty of "Jesus is Lord over [insert town here]", and right wing rhetoric that even Glen Beck would be embaressed to say on the radio. Also doesn't help when we still have local lawmakers who think that it's a matter of grave public policy to keep dildos and the word "Satan" banned.

Da Orky Man:

How can you not like these?

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Those faggots look delicious.

I live in America, and I like it here. I don't think I'd have had some of the same opportunities I've enjoyed here, partly due to being born me (female, mixed ancestry), if I'd have been born somewhere else. I think that while the system is flawed it's due more to the people in charge (who need to retire or die already, seriously, who can be in congress for 50 years and still claim to be in touch with modern society!?) than the people they represent.

But that's not a problem unique to the United States now is it, could it possibly be that other countries leaders do not put representing the will of the people they govern over their own personal interests? Who knows, right? Not me.

Also, I think judging a country by it's media is probably not a good rule of thumb.

Downside: I know now that there are no giant robot wars and magical girls currently battling it out in Tokyo Tower.
Upside: I probably won't be raped to death by tentacles in Tokyo Tower.

...maybe I should just go visit Toronto again. I wonder what's in rotation at the Opera House.

Hate America and almost every aspect of it.
Hate any country with a majority of religious fundamentalism
Love Canada
Dislike the injustices of PNG
Love hate relationship with Japan
Hate the Chinese government. Like, with a passion. North Korea's aswell
Sympathetic towards war-torn countries and those stricken with poverty.

Hey America, instead of building drones, how about feeding people instead of killing them for a change?

CpT_x_Killsteal:
Hate America and almost every aspect of it.
Hate any country with a majority of religious fundamentalism
Love Canada
Dislike the injustices of PNG
Love hate relationship with Japan
Hate the Chinese government. Like, with a passion. North Korea's aswell
Sympathetic towards war-torn countries and those stricken with poverty.

Hey America, instead of building drones, how about feeding people instead of killing them for a change?

We can do both!

Seriously. We give billions of dollars worth of food away every year. US food aid has been the only thing keeping North Koreans from starving en masse for decades. We gave a ton to the Soviet Union in the middle of the Cold War. We fund billions in free medical care every year (socialism for other people, but not for us!). We've dumped several trillion dollars into the infrastructure of Iraq and Afghanistan, most of it wasted.

The point is, americans want to help. We're not very good at it, but the impulses at least are noble. Even look how the wars were sold to the public, as "nation building", we were going to "liberate" the people of these benighted nations. Arrogant and stupid perhaps, but not malicious. Hate away, haters gonna hate and all that. But there's a little niggle in the back of your brain that knows that as devastating as american anger is, its generosity is at least equal. We nuked and firebombed Japan, then helped build them into a modern nation and left them largely alone. Same with Germany, minus the nukes. We basically financed the rebuilding of western Europe in the '50s under the Marshall Plan, and we'd have given cash to the Soviet Bloc as well, but they declined (at Moscow's insistence).

We financed the peace treaty between Egypt and Israel, guaranteeing both sides massive aid if they'd stop fighting. And why? We don't get oil from either of them in serious quantity. We intervened (after much shuffling and hem-hawwing) in Bosnia to stop the ethnic cleansing there, largely successfully. We get nothing for that, we don't rely on Serbian oil, we don't have any reason to be there except some serious shit was going down. When the EU decided that the libyan revolutionaries needed some air cover, they ran out of planes and bombs in two days (seriously? two days of low intensity bombing? EU military ftw!) and came over to borrow some of ours. We get involved because we want to help, we want people to have better lives, and we're self-centered enough to think that since our way of life produces the highest standard of living (by our own standards of course) everyone else should enjoy this shit as much as we do. The best way to think of America as a foreign policy entity is as a well-meaning but clumsy neighbor. Always trying to help weed your garden and crushing your petunias, you delicate flower you.

CpT_x_Killsteal:
Hate America and almost every aspect of it.
Hate any country with a majority of religious fundamentalism
Love Canada
Dislike the injustices of PNG
Love hate relationship with Japan
Hate the Chinese government. Like, with a passion. North Korea's aswell
Sympathetic towards war-torn countries and those stricken with poverty.

Hey America, instead of building drones, how about feeding people instead of killing them for a change?

This provokes curiosity in me more than anything. Could you please expand on this?

Also, haven't drones killed like ~3000 people in 8 years; I noticed that the conflict in Darfur has gone on about as long and has killed like, 400,000 people and displaced millions more.

I'm not saying that one violent act justifies another, though I'm certainly not claiming it doesn't, I'm just trying to put things into perspective here.

I came across some data that says the US donated $300 billion (73% were individuals), which is on par with the GNP of the United Arab Emirates; and that our budget for foreign aid is around $53 billion.

Aris Khandr:
I quite liked England, though the weather was a bit dreary when I was there, so we couldn't do as much as I would have liked.

Oh, bad luck, you must have caught us on a bad day. The weather is normally absolutely dreary, and we're quite proud of it. I hope one day you can come back and experience it when it's truly miserable.

Good topic. Interesting perspectives.

I live in the US, Washington state, Seattle area. Very liberal by US standards, just legalized gay marriage and marijuana. I am also liberal to the point that some conservative talking heads would call me a craaaaaazy radical and the people who know me call me a nooooooormal person. Much of western Europe and Scandinavia would call me a moderate, as I understand it.

I am often embarrassed to be an American, especially in the last five years. We've turned political philosophies into ideologies and become extremely polarized about pretty much any issue you can think of. Part of our image problem, inside and out of the country, isn't just that the most extreme people talk the loudest. It's that we LOVE their hateful mouth flapping. We can't get enough of stupid crazy people. Just look at our favorite television shows. If we love Jersey Shore so much, why wouldn't the media spend all of their time reporting on the Todd Akins and anarchists, so American domestic policy comes down to "That person said something crazy??? SHOVE A CAMERA IN THEIR FACE." Then we all hate each other and other countries hate us. But if you actually go around and talk to the people, the vast majority of us are normal people who just have different opinions about stuff. I went to a Tea Party rally once. The people there were nice and friendly and had cute dogs, and were worried about the deficit and economy.

That's the problem with the human mind. Assholes stand out in it, and we forget all the normies. I think of myself as a reasonable liberal who's like "Hey, alternative fuels and carbon emission tax" while the liberal extremists are all "Tear down civilization and return to hunter-gatherer society!!!" (no seriously) and then I say "You know universal free health care would really take a lot of stress off people and help the least fortunate among us" and ultra conservative people are all "Universal health care destroyed Canada!" and Canada's like "Actually we're doing pretty well, but thank you for your concern!!" But most people aren't extreme or ultra, not even in the US.

Okay answering actual question now...

Canada: A place I'd like to move to someday. I hear people are very nice there and I like nice people. According to Michael Moore you can walk through their front door with a camera and they still won't get upset.

Scandinavia: These are supposed to be some of the happiest places on Earth, and countries like Norway and Sweden have much more socialist policies than the US, so I would also live in one of those. I'm a worrier, so while I would still wonder if odd pains are cancer, I at least wouldn't have to worry about it bankrupting me if I lived somewhere with free health care. I would pay so much taxes for that.

England: Seems to be having a lot of its own political/corruption problems, and in London I guess it rains even more than it does in Seattle. That's a lot.

Japan: I'm sorry, I just don't get it.

Rest of Asia: I hear either very polite and accepting or xenophobic. Either way, I don't like crowds.

South America: I hear that based on another measure of happiness, these people are the most happy people because they focus on family and community. Wouldn't want to live there, however, because it seems to not be as stable and developed. I am still a spoiled American at heart.

Germany: Traveled there as a kid. They may work hard, but they also appear to play hard. People are very willing to stop and help you if you ask.

France: Lots of arrogant people who cling to their opinions? Sounds like the US. Zing!

Italy: Hooooly crap this place is beautiful. That's all I remember.

Middle East: I know my opinion of this area is tainted by US media, so I don't know.

East Europe/Russia: Don't know much about this place other than stereotypes.

Australia: I hear of some government regulation issues? And mistreatment of indigenous peoples? Not that I should talk... Also giant spiders? Can't ever go there.

Mexico: Oh god, sorry Mexico. Sorry our war on drugs led to horrific gang violence on a massive scale. Sorry.

Africa: D:

I acknowledge that it is very likely that some or all of my impressions of other countries/regions are completely off.

Salad Is Murder:

CpT_x_Killsteal:
Hate America and almost every aspect of it.
Hate any country with a majority of religious fundamentalism
Love Canada
Dislike the injustices of PNG
Love hate relationship with Japan
Hate the Chinese government. Like, with a passion. North Korea's aswell
Sympathetic towards war-torn countries and those stricken with poverty.

Hey America, instead of building drones, how about feeding people instead of killing them for a change?

This provokes curiosity in me more than anything. Could you please expand on this?

Also, haven't drones killed like ~3000 people in 8 years; I noticed that the conflict in Darfur has gone on about as long and has killed like, 400,000 people and displaced millions more.

I'm not saying that one violent act justifies another, though I'm certainly not claiming it doesn't, I'm just trying to put things into perspective here.

I came across some data that says the US donated $300 billion (73% were individuals), which is on par with the GNP of the United Arab Emirates; and that our budget for foreign aid is around $53 billion.

Could you link me this study please?

When they claim to be the good guys and their drones start killing civilians....
Also, alot of the aid was pumped back into the countries that they invaded and/or fucked up in the first place.

I live in California, going to school in Texas.

I generally view other countries on equal footing, except for a select few. I'm not too sure what I think about America. I mean, we're definitely not the best in terms of government, economy, or even standards of living and education. That being said, I wouldn't live anywhere else. I've gotten used to things that Americans are allowed to do that I couldn't do in Australia or the EU, namely own and carry firearms.

I also can't stand it that people seem to hate the South and Midwest for "general hatred of other countries and sheer stupidity." Yes, there are those people, but I've seen way more racism and hate-mongering in Southern California then I've seen in Central Texas. That's an old stereotype that should die out.

Let's see though. I'm at the point where I'm positive the Middle East is going to blow itself up without any outside intervention. I'm not too sure if the recession in Europe and the problems with the Euro are still around. I think a large portion of Europe is downright beautiful, the people and the landscape, except for a single country that I don't talk about. That's about all I can think of at the time.

Everyone has their stereotypes, people just need to stop living off of them. I don't believe in stereotypes involving people that live outside the US, and I wait until I've met and had a conversation with a number of people from a set country before I formulate an opinion. I believe others should do the same with Americans. That being said, I realize that this isn't something a large portion of Americans on the internet believe. However, you also have to remember that the ones that are on Youtube and such places, spreading their ignorance and unbased nationalism, are usually children who are actually ignorant and have no idea what they're saying. (trolls)

CpT_x_Killsteal:

Salad Is Murder:

CpT_x_Killsteal:
*snip*

*moar snip*

Could you link me this study please?

I can do that, had to dig through my browser history a little.

The $300 billion figure (2011 data) came from the Giving Institute http://www.givingusa.org and the Center on Philanthropy at Indiana University http://www.philanthropy.iupui.edu/.

You can download the report from the Giving Institute's website for free but you have to register to do it, here's a link to the numbers part of that report, courtesy of the National Park Service, Department of the Interior:

http://www.nps.gov/partnerships/fundraising_individuals_statistics.htm

Also, government figures were pulled from the US Agency of International Development's (www.usaid.gov) data, summary of gathered data here:

http://gbk.eads.usaidallnet.gov/about/program_summary.pdf (it's just a page, it's not the whole report)

Here's some graphs and charts they put together:

http://gbk.eads.usaidallnet.gov/data/fast-facts.html

MOAR DATAS!!!

http://gbk.eads.usaidallnet.gov/data/detailed.html

Given the reputation of these sources, I have no doubt these are accurate figures.

Tarrou:
We've dumped several trillion dollars into the infrastructure of Iraq and Afghanistan, most of it wasted.

Billions. And not so much wasted as stolen by the people supposedly doing the good works.

Tarrou:
Hate away, haters gonna hate and all that. But there's a little niggle in the back of your brain that knows that as devastating as american anger is, its generosity is at least equal.

Bullshit.

Tarrou:
We nuked and firebombed Japan, then helped build them into a modern nation and left them largely alone. Same with Germany, minus the nukes. We basically financed the rebuilding of western Europe in the '50s under the Marshall Plan, and we'd have given cash to the Soviet Bloc as well, but they declined (at Moscow's insistence).

Right, and it's a complete coincidence that the Cold War was happening, and Western Europe is next to Eastern Europe, and Japan is next to China?

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