Government produced porn!

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So, our government just claimed that it was going to tighten up anti-porn laws (porn isn't legal in Iceland) and as a result it has been mocked by many.

Iceland doesn't have a porn industry since porn has never been legal to produce here. One of the main arguments used against it is that porn producers are these really evil people who exploit and degrade women for profit.

So I got an idea...

Why not create a state run porno enterprize?

I am pretty sure that there is a big market for Icelandic porn in foreign countries, so the state could make lots of money of it seeing as porn isn't expensive to produce in the first place. Plus if it is state run then the Icelandic left (its mostly left-wingers who are against porn in Iceland) could not use the typical "ze evil capitalizts!" argument.

Thoughts?

Hardcore_gamer:
I am pretty sure that there is a big market for Icelandic porn in foreign countries

Erm, why?

I don't see many people supporting this, outside of those who disagree with porn being banned in the first place.

thaluikhain:

Hardcore_gamer:
I am pretty sure that there is a big market for Icelandic porn in foreign countries

Erm, why?

Very hot women.
Porn is extremely popular.
Its so cheap to produce anyways so what would we have to lose from trying it?

Hardcore_gamer:
Very hot women.
Porn is extremely popular.

Porn is made everywhere. I don't see anyone getting excited at porn that happens to be made in Iceland, unless there's some Iceland fetish I don't know about.

Hardcore_gamer:
Its so cheap to produce anyways so what would we have to lose from trying it?

It's cheap for people to produce in areas where it is legal and established. For a place that doesn't allow it to create government porn...surely you'd have to change all sorts of laws and lose any number of votes to try and do that? No small thing, I'd have thought.

Being government run wouldn't get rid of the inherent exploitation if it's still happening in a capitalist economy.

People are pushed into work, often work that they don't want to do, to pay the bills. In most cases this takes the form of working in a factory or office or what have you. In some cases this involves selling their body in a less figurative manner than normal, which most people find at the very lest distasteful because of the personal nature of people's bodies and their sexuality.

Regardless of whether it's a private or public company arranging the pornography, the actors would still be under economic duress to go through with it. There might perhaps be more regulations to keep the actors safe and the like which could make it comparatively better, but the core problem still remains and your suggestion of it being government run doesn't tackle that.

In summary, kill all capitalists and seize the means of pornographic production.

The thing is, the porn industry of today is going to be completely different within a short period of time.

In the old days, if you wanted to watch a porno you had to actually go to a movie theater and watch it or buy a magazine. Later on, with the rise of video, you could watch it at home but you still had to physically go out and buy or rent a video. It was still difficult to get hold of the stuff except through the "proper" channels. The thing is, today, there's very little you can do to protect any data you put on the internet. I guess some people must still be using subscription sites because they still exist, but it's incredibly easy now to share and distribute media.

As a result, the future of the commercial porn industry is actually incredibly uncertain right now. In fact, porn is so ubiquitous in culture now and the ability to share information is so freely available that I'd actually bet within a few generations there won't even be a commercial porn industry in the centralized way we understand it.

Really though.. the reason people are against the porn industry is because it's an industry. Making it a nationalized industry doesn't solve the problems with it.

Hardcore_gamer:
Why not create a state run porno enterprize?

Anti-porn laws are made to appeal to certain values groups. If the government really wanted to make money off the porn industry, they'd just tax it more heavily. They'd get their money, and the whole time they get to say the higher taxes are to protect the public at large. They never have to get their hands dirty.

Even though most people aren't against porn, there still might be some mixed feelings across the board if the government went so far as to start making it. I'd rather not picture my local representative as one of the ringleaders of the porn industry, and I think most would probably feel the same way.

And then there's how Internet porn is making commercial porn pretty irrelevant. The only physical product-related industry related to porn I see lasting the next 20-30 years is the sex toy industry.

I do like the idea of government funded pornstars,

RON JEREMY for president

So, like, Obama should have to act in a porn movie? I can see him delivering pizza.

There is no serious NEED for porn to be produced by the government.

We are on the internet, there is more than enough people producing porn without government needing to make more of it. There are no shortages nor monopoly on porn, no real benefit to the public at large for the government to add extra tax dollars/debt to pay for the porn.

Hardcore_gamer:

thaluikhain:

Hardcore_gamer:
I am pretty sure that there is a big market for Icelandic porn in foreign countries

Erm, why?

Very hot women.
Porn is extremely popular.
Its so cheap to produce anyways so what would we have to lose from trying it?

Why does every country thinks their women are the hottest? My girlfriend is Icelandic, the women there are ok but nothing "special" i.e. nothing you wont see any where else. And the Icelanders are much less "blond and fair skinned" than their Nordic cousins in Norway or Sweden so even that fetish is out of the picture.
Any how considering Iceland is about 350K people i don't see how you can have a porn industry It's a village as it is, tho Iceland(or at least Reykjavik) has the largest amount of sex store's per capita than any other place I've been to(excluding maybe the main red light districts in Amsterdam(and E. Germany esp. Leipzig)) so people might not mind doing it on camera...

P.S.
A state funded porn industry might bring the prices of stuff down a bit 130K kr. for a nurse outfit in Adam og Eva is just outrageous!

Icelandic porn? Uh, isn't that kind of gross anyway since you more or less all know each other due to small population? Although Icelandic porn names could be interesting, like Rocko Bigdickson.
Yes, I am totally stereotyping to make a joke about Iceland.

Not G. Ivingname:
There is no serious NEED for porn to be produced by the government.

We are on the internet, there is more than enough people producing porn without government needing to make more of it. There are no shortages nor monopoly on porn, no real benefit to the public at large for the government to add extra tax dollars/debt to pay for the porn.

Maybe it's a representation thing. You know you've arrived when your sub-group gets its own category of porn.

Hardcore_gamer:

Very hot women.

Prove it. :D

Captcha: finger lickin good XD

LetalisK:

Not G. Ivingname:
There is no serious NEED for porn to be produced by the government.

We are on the internet, there is more than enough people producing porn without government needing to make more of it. There are no shortages nor monopoly on porn, no real benefit to the public at large for the government to add extra tax dollars/debt to pay for the porn.

Maybe it's a representation thing. You know you've arrived when your sub-group gets its own category of porn.

Rule 34.

What ever your "group" is, what ever your fetish may be, it already exists, and there is porn of it. Ankle Fetish, foot fetish, I have even heard of HOLOCAUST porn (and avoid like the plague, I have seen Band of Brothers to many times to even... uhhhhh...)

No. As an artist I would not be happy with that. Porn is by definition not art, and if the government were sponsoring it when there are so many artistic endeavors they could be supporting instead I would be quite unhappy. Plus it's totally unnecessary and likely to be unprofitable. It would essentially be like setting up a government sponsored Let's Play YouTube channel as far as likelihood of success is concerned, but worse and more expensive.

Oh just imagine all the amazing titles Government Produced Porn could have!

"Social Sex-Curity"

"Air Force Fun"

"Stimulus Package 2: Big Bank Bangin'"

"Coming out of the presidential cabinet" (for those people on the other side of the fence)

"Electoral Co-Ed College"

If they don't do this, we'd be missing out on some of the greatest porn known to man! I'm all for the idea.

Silliness aside, banning porn seems kind of silly in my opinion. Though I can understand where they're coming from, some women are unfortunately "pressured" into the industry to pay off debt, and others don't want their daughters seeing it as a way to make "easy money".

Still, banning it is idiotic.

Witty Name Here:
Oh just imagine all the amazing titles Government Produced Porn could have!

"Social Sex-Curity"

"Air Force Fun"

"Stimulus Package 2: Big Bank Bangin'"

"Coming out of the presidential cabinet" (for those people on the other side of the fence)

"Electoral Co-Ed College"

If they don't do this, we'd be missing out on some of the greatest porn known to man! I'm all for the idea.

Silliness aside, banning porn seems kind of silly in my opinion. Though I can understand where they're coming from, some women are unfortunately "pressured" into the industry to pay off debt, and others don't want their daughters seeing it as a way to make "easy money".

Still, banning it is idiotic.

Considering they made a movie named "who's nailin pailn" there's a good chance they made those films too already...

Quaxar:
Uh, isn't that kind of gross anyway since you more or less all know each other due to small population?

Tell me about it. The entire country has a population less than a third of the county I live in

OT: No, the government really shouldn't make porn. But I don't think they should ban it. And it's odd to me that a country with a friggin' penis museum bans publication of porn.

CM156:

Quaxar:
Uh, isn't that kind of gross anyway since you more or less all know each other due to small population?

Tell me about it. The entire country has a population less than a third of the county I live in

OT: No, the government really shouldn't make porn. But I don't think they should ban it. And it's odd to me that a country with a friggin' penis museum bans publication of porn.

Ah yes, that's the best Wikipedia article of all times only because of the following sentence:

The museum also contains sculptures of 15 penises based on the Iceland national handball team.

According to Slate, these sculptures were created by Siguršur's daughter, Žorgeršur Siguršardóttir, and were based on her own experience rather than any knowledge of the team. The team's goalkeeper denies that the sculptures are casts.

SLUT ALERT!

Isn't that incredibly hypocritical? They say that porn degrades women for a profit, yet it is completely okay for them to turn around and produce porn? Unless it is a nonprofit pornographic industry, how exactly will producers be kept in line? What is to keep them from becoming just as "evil" as other porn producers, directors, etc?

Also, isn't a government running their pornography industry comparable to a government controlling and managing their drug cartels in that the generally "icky business" promotes/leads to a rise in immoral acts and crime? Why would the idea of government-controlled pornography be so much more respectable than an outright ban on pornography? I am not suggesting that your idea is stupid, however I am unable to follow your reasoning for this idea.

Verbatim:

CM156:

Quaxar:
Uh, isn't that kind of gross anyway since you more or less all know each other due to small population?

Tell me about it. The entire country has a population less than a third of the county I live in

OT: No, the government really shouldn't make porn. But I don't think they should ban it. And it's odd to me that a country with a friggin' penis museum bans publication of porn.

Ah yes, that's the best Wikipedia article of all times only because of the following sentence:

The museum also contains sculptures of 15 penises based on the Iceland national handball team.

According to Slate, these sculptures were created by Siguršur's daughter, Žorgeršur Siguršardóttir, and were based on her own experience rather than any knowledge of the team. The team's goalkeeper denies that the sculptures are casts.

SLUT ALERT!

The museum has so far received pledges from four men-an Icelander, a German, an American and a Briton-to donate their penises. Canadian film-maker Zach Math comments that the American "is an ordinary guy but he has this quirk where he thinks of his penis as a separate entity from his body - Elmo. He has this dream that he wants it to be the most famous penis in the world."

Learn more about Elmo and his long, enticing journey to the bottom in his biography, "Do Penises Dream of Phalic Sheep?"

Hardcore_gamer:
(its mostly left-wingers who are against porn in Iceland)

Whaaat!? The law is inside out, the world is upside down! Cats and dogs are getting along, black is white, red is blue!... Seriously though, left-wingers that want porn to be illegal? Also, who would they cast? Would they hold public auditions? Would they use government officials? I could see that, "Pay $29 to see your mayors go craaaaaaaaaaaaaay with these men in uniform!".

Nothing about government run porn seems like a good idea, and as said before, there really are much more deserving things for the government to be doing.

You have the internet. You are a few keystrokes and a click or two away from more porn than you could ever want at this very moment.

TKretts3:

Hardcore_gamer:
(its mostly left-wingers who are against porn in Iceland)

Whaaat!? The law is inside out, the world is upside down! Cats and dogs are getting along, black is white, red is blue!... Seriously though, left-wingers that want porn to be illegal? Also, who would they cast? Would they hold public auditions? Would they use government officials? I could see that, "Pay $29 to see your mayors go craaaaaaaaaaaaaay with these men in uniform!".

Nothing about government run porn seems like a good idea, and as said before, there really are much more deserving things for the government to be doing.

Doesn't Iceland also have a gay Prime Minister? Put it all together and It's enough to melt a radio/TV pundit's brain.

Revnak:

The museum has so far received pledges from four men-an Icelander, a German, an American and a Briton-to donate their penises. Canadian film-maker Zach Math comments that the American "is an ordinary guy but he has this quirk where he thinks of his penis as a separate entity from his body - Elmo. He has this dream that he wants it to be the most famous penis in the world."

Learn more about Elmo and his long, enticing journey to the bottom in his biography, "Do Penises Dream of Phalic Sheep?"

That guy is actually a pretty average American.

Welcome to the US of A. Enjoy your stay.

...or maybe you should focus on getting the ban on privately produced porn lifted instead?

Though I'll admit I'd probably buy a government produced porn video just for the pure ...WTF?!-factor. An official Scandinavian one would undoubtedly be hilarious:

"Hey there, totally equal woman, I love and respect you for your personality and many qualifications, but have dirty male needs. Would you perhaps take pity on me, and enthusiastically consent to a very gentle and respectful intercourse? Only if it is a true expression of your female sexuality, of course, and is solely a representation of our mutual love, and in no way contains elements of seduction, trade-offs, or anything else unfit for a hyper idealized romantic love story.

I must inform you though that immediately afterwards I'll be forced to have sex with a variety of coloured, gay, crippled, and transgendered people, so that no group is left without a positive role model."

Oh yeah...

Imperator_DK:
...or maybe you should focus on getting the ban on privately produced porn lifted instead?

Though I'll admit I'd probably buy a government produced porn video just for the pure ...WTF?!-factor. An official Scandinavian one would undoubtedly be hilarious:

"Hey there, totally equal woman, I love and respect you for your personality and many qualifications, but have dirty male needs. Would you perhaps take pity on me, and enthusiastically consent to a very gentle and respectful intercourse? Only if it is a true expression of your female sexuality, of course, and is solely a representation of our mutual love, and in no way contains elements of seduction, trade-offs, or anything else unfit for a hyper idealized romantic love story.

I must inform you though that immediately afterwards I'll be forced to have sex with a variety of coloured, gay, crippled, and transgendered people, so that no group is left without a positive role model."

Oh yeah...

That sounds awesome. Not very arousing, but hilarious to watch.

Imperator_DK:
...or maybe you should focus on getting the ban on privately produced porn lifted instead?

Though I'll admit I'd probably buy a government produced porn video just for the pure ...WTF?!-factor. An official Scandinavian one would undoubtedly be hilarious:

"Hey there, totally equal woman, I love and respect you for your personality and many qualifications, but have dirty male needs. Would you perhaps take pity on me, and enthusiastically consent to a very gentle and respectful intercourse? Only if it is a true expression of your female sexuality, of course, and is solely a representation of our mutual love, and in no way contains elements of seduction, trade-offs, or anything else unfit for a hyper idealized romantic love story.

I must inform you though that immediately afterwards I'll be forced to have sex with a variety of coloured, gay, crippled, and transgendered people, so that no group is left without a positive role model."

Oh yeah...

oh herre gud, i would pay to see someone act like that in a actual porno, i would end up puking from all the laughter.

Revnak:
No. As an artist I would not be happy with that. Porn is by definition not art, and if the government were sponsoring it when there are so many artistic endeavors they could be supporting instead I would be quite unhappy. Plus it's totally unnecessary and likely to be unprofitable. It would essentially be like setting up a government sponsored Let's Play YouTube channel as far as likelihood of success is concerned, but worse and more expensive.

Not that I intend to argue the point, but can you clarify exactly how you feel justified in claiming Porn isn't art? I ask because artists are usually the ones who use the "anything can be art" line to claim that their unpainted canvas, messy bed, or empty room with static being pumped into it over a PA system are all art, when to most people such things just appear to be self-indulgent trash.

And if we're dismissing government funded porn on the basis they could be spending the money elsewhere, there are about two hundred things they should be spending that money on before anyone starts talking about art.

Well... this is funny.

I suppose that, If they have also banned prostitution, then at least they're being consistent.

ComradeJim270:
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That sounds awesome. Not very arousing, but hilarious to watch.

Alas, I believe the quality of porn is measured in arousal. It'd be some sweet involuntary satire though.

felbot:
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oh herre gud, i would pay to see someone act like that in a actual porno, i would end up puking from all the laughter.

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Magichead:

Revnak:
No. As an artist I would not be happy with that. Porn is by definition not art, and if the government were sponsoring it when there are so many artistic endeavors they could be supporting instead I would be quite unhappy. Plus it's totally unnecessary and likely to be unprofitable. It would essentially be like setting up a government sponsored Let's Play YouTube channel as far as likelihood of success is concerned, but worse and more expensive.

Not that I intend to argue the point, but can you clarify exactly how you feel justified in claiming Porn isn't art? I ask because artists are usually the ones who use the "anything can be art" line to claim that their unpainted canvas, messy bed, or empty room with static being pumped into it over a PA system are all art, when to most people such things just appear to be self-indulgent trash.

And if we're dismissing government funded porn on the basis they could be spending the money elsewhere, there are about two hundred things they should be spending that money on before anyone starts talking about art.

I would like consider myself a writer, so I was just using the word artist in the general sense. And I must admit I find such things pointless, but then again that is probably because it simply is not and never will be my medium. Still, I actually have a simple answer for that. Porn is by definition lacking artistic merit. That is precisely how one seperates it from erotica. Once you call something you have produced porn, you have essentially claimed it is not art.

And I agree about that as well. I'd just say that porn is beneath even the vast majority of artistic efforts on the list.

Kopikatsu:

Revnak:

The museum has so far received pledges from four men-an Icelander, a German, an American and a Briton-to donate their penises. Canadian film-maker Zach Math comments that the American "is an ordinary guy but he has this quirk where he thinks of his penis as a separate entity from his body - Elmo. He has this dream that he wants it to be the most famous penis in the world."

Learn more about Elmo and his long, enticing journey to the bottom in his biography, "Do Penises Dream of Phalic Sheep?"

That guy is actually a pretty average American.

Welcome to the US of A. Enjoy your stay.

Average American as defined by a crazy Canadian independent film maker. We're far worse. I would have named him Richard Johnson.

I've always thought that a porn co-operative would be a really good model for the industry. The company is owned by its workers who gain nearly all the profits, which is fair enough since they're doing the work. I don't know of any government that could push something like that through though...

Hardcore_gamer:
Why not create a state run porno enterprize?

May be a bit off-topic, but I'm not sure how there is even still a market for pornography. Have people never heard of the internet? It's full of billions of photos and millions of videos for free. Who the fuck is still paying for porn?!

Revnak:
I would like consider myself a writer, so I was just using the word artist in the general sense. And I must admit I find such things pointless, but then again that is probably because it simply is not and never will be my medium. Still, I actually have a simple answer for that. Porn is by definition lacking artistic merit. That is precisely how one seperates it from erotica. Once you call something you have produced porn, you have essentially claimed it is not art.

And I agree about that as well. I'd just say that porn is beneath even the vast majority of artistic efforts on the list.

Out of interest, how is porn devoid of artistic merit? I'm curious.

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