Kaesong Complex: Korean crisis continues

So, since main Western news outlets have turned to other topics I'm filling in here.

Remember how in April 3rd during the annual protest North Korea closed down all access to the Kaesong Park, a joint industry the DPRK and the ROK have started in 2003/04 as a sign of good will? They allowed South Korean staff to return home if they so wished but 175 decided to stay and protect their investments. Understandably, considering the DPRK has seized assets before, lastly in 2011 when they evicted everyone from the Mt Kumgang tourist resort.

These 175 people have now been there since the beginning of the month while supplies continued to dwindle. On April 17th a (private) attempt to deliver food and supplies to the remaining citizens was blocked. This thursday the Republic of Korea issued a final deadline for talks, which the North has refused to answer so yesterday the final decision was made. The remaining 175 South Korean citizens (and one Chinese for some reason) will be pulled out and Kaesong Park closed.
Although North Korea has previously stated they will continue to provide safe conduct for returns the ROK is currently preparing for a landing operation in case Pyongyang decides to keep their citizens hostage.

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Personally, I reckon it probably is just temporarily until they calm down and reinitiate the talks. They did that stunt once already, in 2009, as a protest against military maneuvers, but only for a few days and then they also had wage demands.
Despite all its problems it'd be a shame if that project was over now. South Korean investors might be losing a lot of cheap labour but really, in the end it's much harder on the DPRK who forfeits 60 million of yearly income and gains 50.000 unemployed wokers.

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For the love of Christ, just wake me up when they start the war. I really don't care much for these events. We have a blackout on the internal politics of N. Korea which is why I can't be bothered to guess what's the reason behind this one. It's like trying to guess what caused the end of the SA without any information about internal politics in Nazi Germany at the time or even the event of the night of long knives.

TheIronRuler:
For the love of Christ, just wake me up when they start the war. I really don't care much for these events. We have a blackout on the internal politics of N. Korea which is why I can't be bothered to guess what's the reason behind this one. It's like trying to guess what caused the end of the SA without any information about internal politics in Nazi Germany at the time or even the event of the night of long knives.

More or less yeah. As serious as a war would be, there's no connection between anything we are likely to hear about, and anything that would lead to one. This is little more than white noise to most of us.

I'm just sort of waiting for someone to say 'Enough' and preemptively go to war with North Korea. They've been practically begging for it for the past...while now.

NK are pretty much putting a bullseye around their neck, here. all that remains is the neon lights and prancing around singing "hit me! hit me! hit me!". seriously, it's amazing how badly they're spoiling for a war with the south and NATO.

I think we all know what to do when what may happen, happens:

I'm not sure why but i find myself totally disinterested in this NK nonsense, maybe it's because it was in the spotlight for a couple of weeks with nothing happening in the end, no diplomatic talks, no war, just left there with a cliffhanger.

I do have to wonder why these 175 geniuses decided to stay up in a complex set up NORTH KOREA?

The naton has kidnapped South Korean citizens before, I am pretty sure they even made a tourism deal out of it: http://www.cracked.com/article_17165_6-reasons-north-korea-funniest-evil-dictatorship-ever.html

They don't have enough food to feed it's own citizens, how well did they think they would treat "traitors of the South?"

Not G. Ivingname:
I do have to wonder why these 175 geniuses decided to stay up in a complex set up NORTH KOREA?

The naton has kidnapped South Korean citizens before, I am pretty sure they even made a tourism deal out of it: http://www.cracked.com/article_17165_6-reasons-north-korea-funniest-evil-dictatorship-ever.html

They don't have enough food to feed it's own citizens, how well did they think they would treat "traitors of the South?"

The Southeners in Kaesong are mainly executives and specialists, they supply the knowledge and the North the workforce. This includes big companies like Hyundai Asia, who are heavily invested in that region and its dirt-cheap labour (wages are only a sixth of a South Korean there), all together have put quite a lot of money into the complex over the years and they fear that if they leave the Pyongyang gouvernment might march in and take the whole thing and then their investments would be completely lost.
Also, in 2009 they closed the borders for a few days but work inside continued as normal until they were reopened so the decision probably also included a lot of hope that it wouldn't last long.

Kidnappings in the past were done in secret, scarcely and only later surfaced through defectors, if they just straight up forced 175 Koreans to stay in the country this would be crazy even for the DPRK's standards. Considering Park Geun-hye, the new president, already set a pretty confrontational course, not the least because her mother was assassinated by a North Korean hitman in 75, a refusal to release the ROK citizens would no doubt lead to military actions.

Tom Milner:
NK are pretty much putting a bullseye around their neck, here. all that remains is the neon lights and prancing around singing "hit me! hit me! hit me!". seriously, it's amazing how badly they're spoiling for a war with the south and NATO.

I don't think they actually want to go to war, but they're playing a game of chicken they may end up losing. Eventually people will get tired of their bullshit and won't mind when the US starts fucking them up because it's had enough and can only be pushed so far. The sentiment will probably be along the lines of "It's about time, what took you so long?"

Not G. Ivingname:
I do have to wonder why these 175 geniuses decided to stay up in a complex set up NORTH KOREA?

The naton has kidnapped South Korean citizens before, I am pretty sure they even made a tourism deal out of it: http://www.cracked.com/article_17165_6-reasons-north-korea-funniest-evil-dictatorship-ever.html

They don't have enough food to feed it's own citizens, how well did they think they would treat "traitors of the South?"

North Korea is a lot of things, but most people would count on them not being stupid enough to kidnap people from a building that was a gesture of good will. Normally they kidnap people that don't have the whole world's eyes on them.

So really them being in such a high-profile building makes them safer unless everyone has radically misjudged the new North Korean leadership.

Quaxar:

Not G. Ivingname:
I do have to wonder why these 175 geniuses decided to stay up in a complex set up NORTH KOREA?

The naton has kidnapped South Korean citizens before, I am pretty sure they even made a tourism deal out of it: http://www.cracked.com/article_17165_6-reasons-north-korea-funniest-evil-dictatorship-ever.html

They don't have enough food to feed it's own citizens, how well did they think they would treat "traitors of the South?"

The Southeners in Kaesong are mainly executives and specialists, they supply the knowledge and the North the workforce. This includes big companies like Hyundai Asia, who are heavily invested in that region and its dirt-cheap labour (wages are only a sixth of a South Korean there), all together have put quite a lot of money into the complex over the years and they fear that if they leave the Pyongyang gouvernment might march in and take the whole thing and then their investments would be completely lost.
Also, in 2009 they closed the borders for a few days but work inside continued as normal until they were reopened so the decision probably also included a lot of hope that it wouldn't last long.

Kidnappings in the past were done in secret, scarcely and only later surfaced through defectors, if they just straight up forced 175 Koreans to stay in the country this would be crazy even for the DPRK's standards. Considering Park Geun-hye, the new president, already set a pretty confrontational course, not the least because her mother was assassinated by a North Korean hitman in 75, a refusal to release the ROK citizens would no doubt lead to military actions.

Shaoken:

Not G. Ivingname:
I do have to wonder why these 175 geniuses decided to stay up in a complex set up NORTH KOREA?

The naton has kidnapped South Korean citizens before, I am pretty sure they even made a tourism deal out of it: http://www.cracked.com/article_17165_6-reasons-north-korea-funniest-evil-dictatorship-ever.html

They don't have enough food to feed it's own citizens, how well did they think they would treat "traitors of the South?"

North Korea is a lot of things, but most people would count on them not being stupid enough to kidnap people from a building that was a gesture of good will. Normally they kidnap people that don't have the whole world's eyes on them.

So really them being in such a high-profile building makes them safer unless everyone has radically misjudged the new North Korean leadership.

Fair points.

Although, the things I would say North Korea isn't dumb enough to do has been becoming smaller and smaller as of late. >_>

 

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