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Epyc Wynn:
Mexico, a country completely united in opposition to the wall

I think they oppose paying for it, but for actually building it, given how illegal immigration to the US actively harms Mexico, the actual wall itself may have support amongst Mexicans given it's likely to force reforms wihtin their country to fix their own problems.

Mexico deserves to be great too after all.

Zontar:

Epyc Wynn:
Mexico, a country completely united in opposition to the wall

I think they oppose paying for it, but for actually building it, given how illegal immigration to the US actively harms Mexico, the actual wall itself may have support amongst Mexicans given it's likely to force reforms wihtin their country to fix their own problems.

Mexico deserves to be great too after all.

You are making that up. Mexico does not support the wall in the slightest in regard to any aspect of it.

Also, "Mexico deserves to be great too after all" seriously? Mexico does not want to pay a dime for the wall, and them having to pay for it would not make them great in the slightest. It does not benefit Mexico to have a giant wall between the U.S.A. and Mexico; it hurts Mexico. Spouting memetic pieces of rhetoric as justifications for bad ideas is what got Trump elected in the first place I am certainly, going to need you to cite yourself if you are going to take these massive leaps in logical estimation in the future.

I am sure there is deep down in a cave in Mexico a giant crowd of two people who support it, and if you wish to ignore the the rest of Mexico that does not support it, feel free nobody can stop you from overlooking the rest but certainly, you will have to overlook quite a lot to spin things how you are trying to spin them.

Epyc Wynn:

You are making that up. Mexico does not support the wall in the slightest in regard to any aspect of it.

The only user on this site who I'm aware of being Mexican doesn't seem to hate the idea.

Also, "Mexico deserves to be great too after all" seriously? Mexico does not want to pay a dime for the wall, and them having to pay for it would not make them great in the slightest. It does not benefit Mexico to have a giant wall between the U.S.A. and Mexico; it hurts Mexico. Spouting memetic pieces of rhetoric as justifications for bad ideas is what got Trump elected in the first place I am certainly, going to need you to cite yourself if you are going to take these massive leaps in logical estimation in the future.

I'm guessing you didn't watch the video.

I do appreciate him helping the illegals return home and I love him withholding money from sanctuary cities. Not a fan of the wall though, that'll be protested against and not even half-completed before it gets canceled by the next president.

Zontar:

Trump is not pro-gay and everytime you say he is, you prove how unaware you are.

Wrong.

Pence always automatically nullifies any half-assed "pro-gay" comment he pittered out before when it didnt matter for him. He wanted our money then. When it came to votes though, he wasnt really after ours.

Wrong

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You having issue with Pence I can understand (even though his hands are tied so even if he wanted to push for laws against the LGBT he can't) but if we're doing guilt by association then I'd like to know which third party candidate you supported given Clinton held more loyalty to slave owners who throw gays off buildings then she did the LGBT community.

Yeah, Trump is totally pro-LGBT. He held up a flag. That totally outweighs the fact that he's considering William H. Pryor Jr. for a Supreme Court Justice. A man who has, in the past, argued that homosexual acts should be made illegal, even consensual and private ones, upheld a law that prevented gay men from adopting, and has compared them to pedophiles.

Trump is pro-LGBT? Don't bullshit me. He picked Pryor as a potential nominee, that was his choice. And don't say that Pyror isn't necessarily going to be a Justice, the fact that Trump is even considering him is a massive red flag.

Oh, and he wants to overturn Roe V Wade. Just as the icing on the cake.

Xan Krieger:
not even half-completed before it gets canceled by the next president.

I don't know, CNN a few months back said (and take it with a grain of salt since it's from them) if the paperwork started right when he took office it could easily be done before his term is up (and as it stands the democrats don't seem poised to field a viable opponent in 4 years given how they'e doubled down on what lost them this election) so I'd say it's more then likely the wall will be completed.

Zontar:

Xan Krieger:
not even half-completed before it gets canceled by the next president.

I don't know, CNN a few months back said (and take it with a grain of salt since it's from them) if the paperwork started right when he took office it could easily be done before his term is up (and as it stands the democrats don't seem poised to field a viable opponent in 4 years given how they'e doubled down on what lost them this election) so I'd say it's more then likely the wall will be completed.

Given the reaction by the American people there'll no doubt be protests that delay it till he leaves office. It'll be bigger than the protest blocking the pipeline.

Xan Krieger:

Zontar:

Xan Krieger:
not even half-completed before it gets canceled by the next president.

I don't know, CNN a few months back said (and take it with a grain of salt since it's from them) if the paperwork started right when he took office it could easily be done before his term is up (and as it stands the democrats don't seem poised to field a viable opponent in 4 years given how they'e doubled down on what lost them this election) so I'd say it's more then likely the wall will be completed.

Given the reaction by the American people there'll no doubt be protests that delay it till he leaves office. It'll be bigger than the protest blocking the pipeline.

I doubt it. The pipeline, while the protesters where completely in the wrong legally and every argument they made was a lie, had the protection of the fact that by virtue of it involving natives it had a can of worms open that allowed for people who made bombs not be arrested on the spot (the fact they blew up in their own faces also didn't hurt). The wall by contrast doesn't have that "we can get away with illegal shit" barrier in place, so just obstructing construction would likely be enough for law enforcement to actually do their jobs.

The fact that the border counties are dominated by police forces that will want to uphold those laws because the wall will make their jobs easier, and the fact Trump's likely to tone down the federal hostility towards police departments, also helps.

Simply put, I firmly believe it'll take 6 years tops.

Wow. I know everyone hates Nixon (but me, apparently), but c'mon. The EPA? Nixon's Clean Air Act and the creation of the EPA is why Los Angeles doesn't look like Beijing...

The EPA is legitimately something Republicans can be proud about.

Addendum_Forthcoming:
Wow. I know everyone hates Nixon (but me, apparently), but c'mon. The EPA? Nixon's Clean Air Act and the creation of the EPA is why Los Angeles doesn't look like Beijing...

The EPA is legitimately something Republicans can be proud about.

No, these fucking lunatics will find some way to believe clean air and water is a leftist, elitist, socialist plot to hold back the common hard-working man from success. Not until every inch of earth is concreted and bitumened over will they be safe from the uppity liberal PC plot of nature.

Kwak:
Not until every inch of earth is concreted and bitumened over will they be safe from the uppity liberal PC plot of nature.

Well, not the golf courses, only the stuff that's important to everyone else.

As an aside, there's this snippet from Theresa May on the BBC today, referring to the US-UK relationship:

She will say that just as the two nations have worked hand-in-hand to "defeat evil" and to "open up the world" in the past, they now have an opportunity to "lead, together, again"

Jesus, she just sounds like the snivelling little shit kid who bullies slightly weaker kids because she's friends with the class thicko, who himself is busy taking out his thyroid-related excessive growth on all the other kids.

Kwak:

No, these fucking lunatics will find some way to believe clean air and water is a leftist, elitist, socialist plot to hold back the common hard-working man from success. Not until every inch of earth is concreted and bitumened over will they be safe from the uppity liberal PC plot of nature.

I'm pretty sure this has to be unconstitutional. The EPA is a civil service. It belongs by ratified statutes of existence preceding Trump and it would be akin to telling the CDC not to broadcast health alerts to the general public.

Surely this is unconstitutional?

What's next? Telling the Surgeon-General not to publicise; "Smoking is bad..."?

Zontar:

Xan Krieger:

Zontar:

I don't know, CNN a few months back said (and take it with a grain of salt since it's from them) if the paperwork started right when he took office it could easily be done before his term is up (and as it stands the democrats don't seem poised to field a viable opponent in 4 years given how they'e doubled down on what lost them this election) so I'd say it's more then likely the wall will be completed.

Given the reaction by the American people there'll no doubt be protests that delay it till he leaves office. It'll be bigger than the protest blocking the pipeline.

I doubt it. The pipeline, while the protesters where completely in the wrong legally and every argument they made was a lie, had the protection of the fact that by virtue of it involving natives it had a can of worms open that allowed for people who made bombs not be arrested on the spot (the fact they blew up in their own faces also didn't hurt). The wall by contrast doesn't have that "we can get away with illegal shit" barrier in place, so just obstructing construction would likely be enough for law enforcement to actually do their jobs.

The fact that the border counties are dominated by police forces that will want to uphold those laws because the wall will make their jobs easier, and the fact Trump's likely to tone down the federal hostility towards police departments, also helps.

Simply put, I firmly believe it'll take 6 years tops.

I figure that the lawsuits will take at least that long. We are talking about a lot of eminent domain land seizures and those are never popular. Then you are going to have a ton of environmental lawsuits since the wall will impact the habitats of many species. Then you are bound to get lawsuits about the assigning of construction contracts.

Nielas:

I figure that the lawsuits will take at least that long. We are talking about a lot of eminent domain land seizures and those are never popular. Then you are going to have a ton of environmental lawsuits since the wall will impact the habitats of many species. Then you are bound to get lawsuits about the assigning of construction contracts.

Also to add to land seizures, but even land that isn't being directly built on road netwoirks will need to be built through and plenty of people who are going to both be affected having their land disected are then going to also challenge that even if the government had claimed eminent domain.

I fail to see how it will only cost 30 billion. Unless by 'wall' the mean a couple of extra checkpoints. Many sections of land this is being built on is basically going to fuck with some person's livehood and ethically speaking it would be a shitshow just force people to sell part of their plot of land if it would render the rest of their property devalued or simply not economically feasible to run if they're pastoralists or farmers.

Just to secure the Texas chain fence required 400 border residents to sell up. What Trump is proposing would require far more infrastructure, thus far more roads, and inevitably that means a hell of a lot of property owners are going to end up with significantly less land.

A road doesn't seem like much ... but it's still about another 15 metres wide by 3100 kilometres long, not including offshoots and arterials elsewhere, of compacted dirt that will never be good for anything anymore. Apart from building a wall ...

My projection is the lawsuits will take time, then building the necessary infrastructure to get equipment to where it needs to be will take time ... and processing of payments and complaints will then also take years as well as unforeseen land purchases needed to finish it ... and then building the thing more years ... then complaints by the Mexican government how the U.S. has poached some of its territory to build it and decide to take it to the ICJ (where the courts are going to be undoubtedly sympathetic to the plaintiff because Mexico isn't the tariff hiking nuisance in this affair) ... and by then even a double term president will not live to see it.

Making the next president to be with a new administration questioning the action entirely.

To be fair, it does make it almost seem as an ingenious second ticket to run on; "We are like, so close to starting this project ... but if you vote in [insert name here] ... you'll never get the wall."

And hell, I can even see some of the individual states raising hell about it. Imagine having tourist towns suddenly shutdown or losing revenue solely because of land seizures? Those are going to be some pissed off mayors which will lead to pissed off senators. Republican or Democrat, and none of them like Trump. Unless the Wall actually leads to longterm economic growth, it's even worse. People hate eminent domain to build vanity projects for their government. They don't mind roads, but try to build something that won't directly benefit them, or might even hurt them longterm. Nobody likes the federal government 'stealing' state or private land. And those people are going to be very, very vocal about it.

It will certainly influence state voting practices.

I don't agree with Trump on many points... but I'll him dues where its due, the man acts fast. So goddamn fast, it's a little unnerving. I don't live in the US, so I don't know the full ins and outs of what is going on. I think this wall he is building is going to do more harm than good for the relationship of the world. The whole idea about torture aswell is not going to go down well with the rest of the world. I know here in the UK, everyone is feeling a little up in arms about it and do not want to follow his lead.

Why doesn't every President do this? Why didn't Obama do this as soon as he got in power; 'These are the things I campaigned on, this is what I was voted in for, BAM!, done.'?
Why is it only happening now with a true dangerous nutcase at the head of your country?
If the pendulum is allowed to swing the other way (barring steps taken by the forces of evil now in control to prevent any future loss of their power) then the next guy/gal will have to do the same to undo most of this shit.

So, since the wall's being talked about here, and I don't have the patience to make an entire thread about this, it would appear that the planned meeting between the Mexican and American Presidents has been called off for an undetermined length of time. Long story short, Mexico's been continuing to rain on Trump's parade by loudly saying "Guys, we are not paying for your stupid border wall!" This in and of itself isn't new, as Mexico has been consistently saying it since Trump's campaign, making it clear they weren't nearly as 'happy' about the prospect as he might have suggested in at least one rally.

What is NEW was the revelation that Congress would be moving ahead in pursing the wall's construction, and what happened in the wake of that. The estimated costs range from twelve to fifteen billion dollars, with the strategy here apparently being 'Build It Now, Make Mexico Pay Later.' Obviously Trump was quick to reiterate that Mexico would, in fact, be paying for the wall even if indirectly, with the same conviction John Cleese demonstrated in The Holy Grail when he tried to convince the corpse collector that his elderly father was, in fact, dead. ("I'm feeling better!" "No you're not, you'll be stone dead in a moment!")

This led to Mexico's President lamenting the decision on (sigh) Twitter, as well as making it clear via televised address he wouldn't budge on the issue, the same stance he has expressed approximately one bazillion times. This drew some very clear lines in the sand, both with regards to Mexico paying for the Wall or having remittances taxed or otherwise confiscated to fund the wall's construction. This meant the question of the border wall would have likely been a central pillar of the scheduled meeting between both leaders at the end of this month, where they would renegotiate trade between Mexico and the United States.

However, Trump also took to Twitter (siiiiigh) and stated that if Mexico did not intend to pay for the wall, it would be best to just cancel the trade meeting altogether. This wasn't directly aimed at the Mexican President's own Twitter account, mind you, and was rather one of Trump's typical 'Tweeting Opinions ABOUT Someone Rather Than Tweeting To Them' things.

It would appear that the message was clear enough, however, as Mexico (who just to reiterate is unwilling to pay for the border wall) has taken him up on that ultimatum, cancelling their meeting.

White House spokesman Sean Spicer has stated they are looking to reschedule the meeting, while keeping the lines of communication open.

Padwolf:
I don't agree with Trump on many points... but I'll him dues where its due, the man acts fast. So goddamn fast, it's a little unnerving. I don't live in the US, so I don't know the full ins and outs of what is going on. I think this wall he is building is going to do more harm than good for the relationship of the world. The whole idea about torture aswell is not going to go down well with the rest of the world. I know here in the UK, everyone is feeling a little up in arms about it and do not want to follow his lead.

The point of authoritarianism is it is highly effective at whatever it is focused on. The downside to authoritariansim is it is highly unethical and in the long-term harbors hate from anyone who is not part of the elites running the government. The fact is, Donald Trump is no longer a populist because he has now become the elite authoritarian antithesis of populism; not that he ever identified as populist in the first place.

This is an act of strong authority by the leader and can be reasonably concluded as making Donald Trump a prime example of an authoritarian, which I believe his supporters would agree with, though they may use a nicer word than authoritarian. "He is simply doing the job of president as he was rightfully elected to do" which is, to their credit, not an invalid statement. However, most presidents don't have their entire State Department Senior Management Team simultaneously resign in an unprecedented amount of simultaneous resignation in such a high department. In contrast to the compromising nature of Obama with the right wing, Trump is making no attempts at moderacy or compromise.

This will backfire on the republican establishment when a democrat enters the white house and also abandons any attempts at compromise to spite how Trump acted.

Should Trump continue being as "effective" as he is being at pressing his ideology into the fabric of the United States of America, I will non-jokingly have to refer to him as a dictator existing under the ruse of democracy.

And with the present Republican establishment's majority existing in all offices due to gerrymandering, since this majority does not exist in the number of actual Republicans in the U.S.A., it is unlikely they will remove Trump until it is too late for them to do anything about him. They elected a dog with a leash they think can be restrained but the dog can easily rip it off at any time because that leash will do nothing to stop him; only a chain will.

No one should blindly praise effectiveness as if it is a good thing simply because it is effective. I can effectively take a shit on democracy if I have power if I ignore all the ramifications of doing so, as can anyone who removes any moral limitations they impose on their self. Authoritarianism is not hard; it is easy to do, you and any other person can effectively get all the shit done in the world if you become an authoritarian. But, what gets done, is at the behest of the dictator. What this dictator wants is not the will of the people and is not ethical.

I hope Bernie Sanders is aware of this threat and does not become weak in the process of pandering to Trump's false populism, though it is always a good idea to at least give someone a chance before going on the offensive.

I can see the overall end game Donald Trump is going for. He is trying to sway the government through influence. If you can influence enough people, any written law can be ignored no matter how set-in-stone its principles and logic is. The only way to fight influence is with influence, not rules and paperwork. Most of the Republican Establishment is afraid to apply influence against Trump because "muh reputation" or "oh shit don's gonna destroy me", so someone else will have to do it. The truth is, Trump already has the government in chains of influence. People simply have yet to wake up to this fact. But they will.

Kwak:
Why doesn't every President do this? Why didn't Obama do this as soon as he got in power; 'These are the things I campaigned on, this is what I was voted in for, BAM!, done.'?
Why is it only happening now with a true dangerous nutcase at the head of your country?
If the pendulum is allowed to swing the other way (barring steps taken by the forces of evil now in control to prevent any future loss of their power) then the next guy/gal will have to do the same to undo most of this shit.

Most of the stuff Trump is issuing executive orders about is hardly "done". The border wall will require one or more votes in Congress before anything substantial is done. The Pipelines will end up back in courts and might require another vote in Congress. The most significant thing he has done so far is kill the TPP which is within his powers as President.

For the record, indirect actions Trump accidentally performs and reactions to Trump and his actions, I will deem as related to this thread's topic, for the sake of keeping things general and adaptive to anything related to Donald Trump's presidential actions; especially since they are going to influence a lot of things in the world.

The State Department's entire senior administrative team just resigned.

It has not been officially stated why this was done. Most on the left and right have concluded this is a reaction to Donald Trump and his team.

This is unprecedented and is a massive loss of man-power in running the affairs of the United States of America. The affairs covered by the team include but are not limited to creating the president's management agenda for effective and efficient citizen-centered governance, providing support programs to the Department of State and U.S. embassies and consulates, managing the worldwide consular function (welfare and commercial interests in foreign countries), and the facilitation of secure and efficient operations of U.S. missions abroad.

Epyc Wynn:
For the record, indirect actions Trump accidentally performs and reactions to Trump and his actions, I will deem as related to this thread's topic, for the sake of keeping things general and adaptive to anything related to Donald Trump's presidential actions; especially since they are going to influence a lot of things in the world.

The State Department?s entire senior administrative team just resigned.

It has not been officially stated why this was done. Most on the left and right have concluded this is a reaction to Donald Trump and his team.

This is unprecedented and is a massive loss of man-power in running the affairs of the United States of America. The affairs covered by the team include but are not limited to creating the president's management agenda for effective and efficient citizen-centered governance, providing support programs to the Department of State and U.S. embassies and consulates, managing the worldwide consular function (welfare and commercial interests in foreign countries), and the facilitation of secure and efficient operations of U.S. missions abroad.

I get why there leaving, but this only strengthen Trump, he'll just fill those post with people who agree with him. They would have been far more effective in place to do damage control.

Zontar:

You having issue with Pence I can understand (even though his hands are tied so even if he wanted to push for laws against the LGBT he can't) but if we're doing guilt by association then I'd like to know which third party candidate you supported given Clinton held more loyalty to slave owners who throw gays off buildings then she did the LGBT community.

This on the basis that Saudi Arabia has donated $10 million to the Clinton Foundation? Though that was long before she was Secretary of State, and they donated a similar amount to the George H. W. Bush Library? Trump's relationship with Putin is much stronger, and extends to actual praise; does Putin's abysmal LGBT record reflect equally badly on Trump?

I find it utterly astounding that anybody in their right mind could consider Trump anything but the very worst candidate for the LGBT community. Trump is the only one who has actually threatened to reverse same-sex marriage, and is the only one willing to hire extreme homophobes into the Executive. And we're meant to believe that something Clinton said nine years ago, or a paltry sum given to the Foundation before she was Secretary, are somehow equivalent. Laughable.

Zontar:

Epyc Wynn:

You are making that up. Mexico does not support the wall in the slightest in regard to any aspect of it.

The only user on this site who I'm aware of being Mexican doesn't seem to hate the idea.

Also, "Mexico deserves to be great too after all" seriously? Mexico does not want to pay a dime for the wall, and them having to pay for it would not make them great in the slightest. It does not benefit Mexico to have a giant wall between the U.S.A. and Mexico; it hurts Mexico. Spouting memetic pieces of rhetoric as justifications for bad ideas is what got Trump elected in the first place I am certainly, going to need you to cite yourself if you are going to take these massive leaps in logical estimation in the future.

I'm guessing you didn't watch the video.

Your reference to the one mexican is the equivalent of "I have one minority friend, therefore cannot say racist things. As for the wall, it's a blatant attack on mexican soverignty. It will not break the cartells or spur the government into action. The cartells will build more tunnels and the government will have a massive target to direct the frustration of the masses at. Actual cooperation would be the best way to resolve both the illegal immigration and the problems with the mexican economy. Trump's pissing contest is at best utterly innefectual and at worst actively deteriorating US-Mexican relations

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/26/world/mexicos-president-cancels-meeting-with-trump-over-wall.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

Does this look like a good relationship to you?. The wall is a 60 billion dollar bandade on an infected wound. It's not a solution, but rather something made to trick people into thinking the problem is solved

Silvanus:

Zontar:

You having issue with Pence I can understand (even though his hands are tied so even if he wanted to push for laws against the LGBT he can't) but if we're doing guilt by association then I'd like to know which third party candidate you supported given Clinton held more loyalty to slave owners who throw gays off buildings then she did the LGBT community.

This on the basis that Saudi Arabia has donated $10 million to the Clinton Foundation? Though that was long before she was Secretary of State, and they donated a similar amount to the George H. W. Bush Library? Trump's relationship with Putin is much stronger, and extends to actual praise; does Putin's abysmal LGBT record reflect equally badly on Trump?

I find it utterly astounding that anybody in their right mind could consider Trump anything but the very worst candidate for the LGBT community. Trump is the only one who has actually threatened to reverse same-sex marriage, and is the only one willing to hire extreme homophobes into the Executive. And we're meant to believe that something Clinton said nine years ago, or a paltry sum given to the Foundation before she was Secretary, are somehow equivalent. Laughable.

I can't believe I have to keep bringing this up, but that's the nature of Trump isn't it there's too much to remember. 21st of August 2015, Trump rally in Mobile Alabama. Trump said "I like them " [Saudi Arabia] very much" while discussing how they buy apartments of him for 40 - 50 million dollars a pop. If Clinton is evil because she took 10 million and put it towards charity work then what does that make Trump for taking far far more of that Saudi money and putting it in his pocket?

TheMajesticSpaceDuck:
If Clinton is evil because she took 10 million and put it towards charity work then what does that make Trump for taking far far more of that Saudi money and putting it in his pocket?

Because everything that Hillary Clinton does is evil, and criminal, because she is Hillary Clinton. Donald Trump is not Hillary Clinton so what he did was not evil, it was just him doing good business.

Wall supporters should bear in mind that immigration to the US from Mexico has been steadily declining and is currently at a 40 year low. Meanwhile, the vast majority of immigrants to the US (illegal or no) come via airplane (which fly over walls, by the by). If this wall gets built, it will be a several billion dollar waste of money that won't change a damn thing.

Curious. Is this a very sandy area? If so, how deep do foundations need to be?

Baffle2:
Curious. Is this a very sandy area? If so, how deep do foundations need to be?

I ask you please elaborate, both so I understand what you mean and so your post is not considered an off-topic, what the hipster internet memesters refer to these days as a, "shotpist".

also:

Mexican president said he would not go to the U.S.A. for meeting with Trump.

At this point if Donald Trump wants Mexico to pay for the thing, he will have to engage in economic warfare. That or he could engage in propaganda warfare or literal warfare; either option ultimately leading to intensified hatred towards Trump around the world.

Epyc Wynn:

I ask you please elaborate, both so I understand what you mean and so your post is not considered an off-topic, what the hipster internet memesters refer to these days as a, "shotpist".

If the area is very sandy and unsupportive, it will need deep foundations in order to support a giant wall. I was curious about whether the area is indeed very sandy, because that is my perception of it. Is that any clearer?

Baffle2:

Epyc Wynn:

I ask you please elaborate, both so I understand what you mean and so your post is not considered an off-topic, what the hipster internet memesters refer to these days as a, "shotpist".

If the area is very sandy and unsupportive, it will need deep foundations in order to support a giant wall. I was curious about whether the area is indeed very sandy, because that is my perception of it. Is that any clearer?

Ah.

I had not thought about that.

First he will need a foundation of tax payer money.

Let's see if he can build that foundation first.

Baffle2:

Epyc Wynn:

I ask you please elaborate, both so I understand what you mean and so your post is not considered an off-topic, what the hipster internet memesters refer to these days as a, "shotpist".

If the area is very sandy and unsupportive, it will need deep foundations in order to support a giant wall. I was curious about whether the area is indeed very sandy, because that is my perception of it. Is that any clearer?

The wall would be built over a whole gamut of different terrains. Some areas it would be easy to build and maintain the wall, others it would be very difficult and in some areas it would be almost impossible.

Epyc Wynn:

Baffle2:

Epyc Wynn:

I ask you please elaborate, both so I understand what you mean and so your post is not considered an off-topic, what the hipster internet memesters refer to these days as a, "shotpist".

If the area is very sandy and unsupportive, it will need deep foundations in order to support a giant wall. I was curious about whether the area is indeed very sandy, because that is my perception of it. Is that any clearer?

Ah.

I had not thought about that.

First he will need a foundation of tax payer money.

Let's see if he can build that foundation first.

The newest proposal is to impose a tariff of 20% on all goods imported from Mexico.

Nielas:

Epyc Wynn:

Baffle2:

If the area is very sandy and unsupportive, it will need deep foundations in order to support a giant wall. I was curious about whether the area is indeed very sandy, because that is my perception of it. Is that any clearer?

Ah.

I had not thought about that.

First he will need a foundation of tax payer money.

Let's see if he can build that foundation first.

The newest proposal is to impose a tariff of 20% on all goods imported from Mexico.

Oh wow economic warfare totally fucking called that. Wonder how big the current tariff is.

Trump has ordered his new administration to publish a weekly list of the crimes committed by immigrants.

This was a tactic used by Nazi Germany to prove Jews are predisposed to crime, only it is being applied to immigrants.

Donald Trump is proving to be quite the racist ruler that is for sure.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-publish-weekly-list-crimes-immigrants-commit-refugees-aliens-executive-order-us-a7546826.html

"The list will also include details of so-called 'sanctuary cities' that refuse to hand over immigrant residents for deportation."

Get this man out of office jeez. This is information-based warfare, where he builds up a list, connects it with 'immigrants', and then the race associated with those immigrants is hated. Trump is no longer acting in a manner that can be compared with Nazism but instead is from Nazism and was used as a means to promote hate for the Jews. This is cartoonishly evil!

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