Official Special Investigation Into Trump Thread

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They can ask, sure. But they can't actually do anything about it. And if this Uranium thing was truly a scandal, Republicans would have latched onto it years ago. THE ONLY reason they're bringing this up now is because Mueller was the FBI director back then.

Actual investigation is probably the last thing they want because that would just show they're all idiots making noise over nothing and destroy their credibility. They just want to continue to be able to deflect and insinuate, but not actually get a definitive answer (which is already available).
http://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/facts-uranium-one/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/10/29/the-dossier-and-the-uranium-deal-a-guide-to-the-latest-allegations/?utm_term=.e420796fa901

Asita:
And now we've got Reps. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.), Andy Biggs (R-Ariz.) and Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) introducing a measure that demands Mueller's resignation, claiming conflict of interest due to Mueller's "close personal relationship" with Comney, and for some reason threw in a bit about how the FBI should be investigated for "willful blindness" about Uranium One

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/03/house-republicans-robert-mueller-resignation-244517
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/conservative-republicans-demand-mueller-recuse-himself-over-uranium-deal/2017/11/03/809135bc-c07f-11e7-959c-fe2b598d8c00_story.html?utm_term=.46e1b5bdd338
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/03/gop-reps-gaetz-gohmert-biggs-push-for-mueller-resignation-in-new-resolution.html

...And they do this just days after the first charges are made. Coincidence, I'm sure. *eyeroll*

The audacity of the Uranium One scandal is that it is a recycled scandal. Trump has been talking about how Hillary 'sold 20% of America's uranium to Russia' for almost two years now. The deal itself is seven years old. The details have already been hashed out, scrutinised, and thoroughly discredited.

But come some indictments of Trump campaign staffers, and the GOP blurts out 'oh, don't forget we still have all the Hillary activity,' and you want to grab them and slap them in the face and say 'you already investigated this! Everybody investigated it! There is nothing there.'

It's just smoke. They want a reason to smear Mueller to preemptively discredit anything he might uncover. Never mind that he was one of the best directors the FBI ever had, or that he was a Bush appointee, or that he's a Republican. He might make their God-Emperor look bad, so he is persona non grata to the Republican party.

It's all bullshit. I mean, the more I observe Republican politicians, the more I'm perplexed by how anyone was ever stupid enough to trust them in the first place.

bastardofmelbourne:

Asita:
And now we've got Reps. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.), Andy Biggs (R-Ariz.) and Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) introducing a measure that demands Mueller's resignation, claiming conflict of interest due to Mueller's "close personal relationship" with Comney, and for some reason threw in a bit about how the FBI should be investigated for "willful blindness" about Uranium One

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/03/house-republicans-robert-mueller-resignation-244517
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/conservative-republicans-demand-mueller-recuse-himself-over-uranium-deal/2017/11/03/809135bc-c07f-11e7-959c-fe2b598d8c00_story.html?utm_term=.46e1b5bdd338
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/03/gop-reps-gaetz-gohmert-biggs-push-for-mueller-resignation-in-new-resolution.html

...And they do this just days after the first charges are made. Coincidence, I'm sure. *eyeroll*

The audacity of the Uranium One scandal is that it is a recycled scandal. Trump has been talking about how Hillary 'sold 20% of America's uranium to Russia' for almost two years now. The deal itself is seven years old. The details have already been hashed out, scrutinised, and thoroughly discredited.

But come some indictments of Trump campaign staffers, and the GOP blurts out 'oh, don't forget we still have all the Hillary activity,' and you want to grab them and slap them in the face and say 'you already investigated this! Everybody investigated it! There is nothing there.'

It's just smoke. They want a reason to smear Mueller to preemptively discredit anything he might uncover. Never mind that he was one of the best directors the FBI ever had, or that he was a Bush appointee, or that he's a Republican. He might make their God-Emperor look bad, so he is persona non grata to the Republican party.

It's all bullshit. I mean, the more I observe Republican politicians, the more I'm perplexed by how anyone was ever stupid enough to trust them in the first place.

Because they're either bigotted hateful pieces of shit who only care that the GOP will do something about the blacks and gays and don't care about anything else or they're too stupid to realise when they're being lied to and if anyone wants to pull the whole "oh and you wonder why the left is losing voters" shit because they feel insulted then stop supporting bigoted liars and I'll stop calling you out for supporting bigoted liars.

bastardofmelbourne:
The audacity of the Uranium One scandal is that it is a recycled scandal. Trump has been talking about how Hillary 'sold 20% of America's uranium to Russia' for almost two years now. The deal itself is seven years old. The details have already been hashed out, scrutinised, and thoroughly discredited.

If I had to guess, distractions to buy time are the only thing left that they can think to do. Congressional Republicans haven't done any real work in 6 years, some of them new enough that they've never worked in their entire Congressional tenure. The Reagan revolution was all about the mantra that government doesn't work. So of course the disciples of St. Ronald the Magnificent make sure that once they get into government they stop it from working.

Now that they control all three branches of government, they have to actually do their jobs. And it turns out they're not very good at it. Screaming about repealing Obamacare for 7 years? Couldn't make it happen. Obviously had no alternative prepared at any point. Tax cuts for the wealthy? About the only thing left that they believe in and they are already fucking it up.

And of course the obsession with "rugged individualism" means that a bunch of these yo-yos get into power and think everything is about them. Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Neil Gorsuch, they can't get their agendas through because they're more focused on their own personal glory than building up the kind of political connections that get shit done.

On-topic: a recent leak of over thirteen million documents from offshore law firms by the German newspaper S?ddeutsche Zeitung has revealed financial connections between Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross and a handful of Russian oligarchs, including Putin's son-in-law.

This is the same newspaper that released the Panama Papers, a trove of eleven million documents leaked from Panamanian law firm Mossack Fonesca. The Panama papers revealed evidence of massive illegal activity, including fraud and tax evasion, by some of the world's richest individuals. Among them was Vladimir Putin; the papers revealed a web of billion-dollar transactions between shell companies that Putin used to siphon his wealth outside of Russia and into offshore accounts, where payments could not easily be traced.

The second leak is already drawing comparisons to the first, being termed the "Paradise papers." The leaks also reveal that a Russian billionaire with ties to the Kremlin had invested in a real estate company founded and owned by Jared Kushner, who of course is Donald Trump's son-in-law and who has a disturbingly central position in the web of financial connections between Trump's administration and Russian oligarchs.

What's all this mean? For the investigation into Russian election interference specifically, it means jack-shit. But it highlights a very serious problem with the Trump administration that is often overlooked: the myriad web of undisclosed financial ties between members of the administration - including the President - and foreign state actors. Trump is infamously tight-lipped about his finances, including his tax returns and the activities of the Trump Organisation, which Trump never got around to putting in a blind trust like he said he would. Without financial transparency, the American public simply cannot know whether any one of Trump's decisions constitutes a conflict of interest or not.

On the one hand, it's simply unrealistic to expect an organisation of such scope to scrupulously foresee and avoid all possible conflicts of interest. On the other hand, that's the whole point; Donald Trump's unprecedentedly-massive business interests are so huge that it is impossible for him to not be in a conflict of interest whenever he's making a decision about anything. And it's a problem that is only exacerbated by Trump's determination to staff his White House with millionaires and billionaires. The wealthier your cabinet members are, the more likely it is that they have investments tied up in someone-or-other's business that may one day create a conflict of interest.

In this case specifically, Wilbur Ross has invested in a shipping company owned by a Russian oligarch who was targeted by US sanctions in response to the Russian annexation of the Crimea. The Trump administration also happens to be dragging its feet on implementing the new list of sanctions against Russia that was passed by Congress and signed by Trump in August. The result is that it now appears as though Trump's commerce secretary has financial ties to a businessman that the Trump administration is supposed to be sanctioning, but for some reason isn't doing that.

In such a situation, it is impossible for the Trump administration to avoid the apprehension of bias. And the more ties like this that get revealed, the more difficult it is to believe Trump and his advisers when they claim innocence. One would expect, at the very least, that they could obtain a list of individuals subject to US economic sanctions, hand that list to their accountant, and tell them to sell up any financial interests that could be connected to those individuals.

So...this was rumored to be in the works, but here it is officially: Flynn just pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI. Considering what Mueller's team was investigating him for, and what they likely had on him, it's highly likely that he flipped on Trump.

So yeah, it's no wonder Trump has been especially unhinged lately.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/01/us/politics/michael-flynn-guilty-russia-investigation.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

Exley97:
So...this was rumored to be in the works, but here it is officially: Flynn just pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI. Considering what Mueller's team was investigating him for, and what they likely had on him, it's highly likely that he flipped on Trump.

So yeah, it's no wonder Trump has been especially unhinged lately.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/01/us/politics/michael-flynn-guilty-russia-investigation.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

First: WOO!

Second: I believe these are the court documents that detail Flynn's statement. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4319066-Flynn-Statement-of-Offense.html Someone feel free to correct me if fake. xP

I suspect this is now the point where a load of Trump staffers voluntarily or involuntarily dive in front of the president to take the hits.

Might not get to the guy at the top, but could spectacularly whittle down his most trusted supporters.

Trump just had to Tweet again.

President Donald Trump defended some of the actions of his former national security adviser Michael Flynn as "lawful" on Saturday, a day after Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his talks with the Russian ambassador.

"I had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI. He has pled guilty to those lies," Trump tweeted. "It is a shame because his actions during the transition were lawful. There was nothing to hide!"

Flynn's Friday plea includes an admission that he lied to FBI agents about conversations with then-Russian Ambassador to the U.S. Sergey Kislyak about U.S. sanctions against Russia and about a pending United Nation Security Council vote targeting Israeli settlements.

He changed his story to one of the dumbest possible things he could have said. I hope this hangs over the midterms like a curse.

BeetleManiac:
Trump just had to Tweet again.

President Donald Trump defended some of the actions of his former national security adviser Michael Flynn as "lawful" on Saturday, a day after Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his talks with the Russian ambassador.

"I had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI. He has pled guilty to those lies," Trump tweeted. "It is a shame because his actions during the transition were lawful. There was nothing to hide!"

Flynn's Friday plea includes an admission that he lied to FBI agents about conversations with then-Russian Ambassador to the U.S. Sergey Kislyak about U.S. sanctions against Russia and about a pending United Nation Security Council vote targeting Israeli settlements.

He changed his story to one of the dumbest possible things he could have said. I hope this hangs over the midterms like a curse.

I swear, it's like every time Trump opens his mouth, it's merely to switch feet and vent hot air.

Trump is blaming his lawyer for the incriminating tweet. Which is probably not THE stupidest thing he could have done about it, but definitely up there. This could potentially result in Trump's lawyer getting disbarred before this is over.

The emails published by the NYT also show that a number of campaign staffers totally knew Flynn was talking to the Russians. The emails implicate KT McFarland, Jared Kushner, Jeff Sessions and Steve Bannon. McFarland presence in that list actually contradict her sworn testimony to the Senate earlier this year. God, we are looking at a potential slaughter in 2018.

Muller has subpoenaed Deutsche Bank for Trump's financial records. The noose tightens.

I'd just like to point out that a common refrain being tried over Mueller's access to Trump's emails makes them invalid is that "they were illegally obtained".

Which, I'd just like to say:

But Hillary's emails.

My favorite part of Trump's latest meltdown is that today we found Trump's newest--best--nickname...

Fredo.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/01/donald-trump-goes-full-fredo/549875/

From now on Trump is "Fredo".

Basement Cat:
My favorite part of Trump's latest meltdown is that today we found Trump's newest--best--nickname...

Fredo.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/01/donald-trump-goes-full-fredo/549875/

From now on Trump is "Fredo".

Ironically, my dad has a friend called Fredo, but he IS smart.

Trump is a tyrant and must be stopped.

Figured I'd do a little Epic Wynn-style update here, because I'm bored and got no work to do:

Democratic senator Dianne Feinstein has unilaterally released the full transcript of testimony given by Glenn Simpson, head of Fusion GPS, to the Senate Judiciary Committee.

The testimony given by Simpson under oath disproves a key Fox News talking point about the Steele dossier's impact on the FBI's investigation. Fox News had been echoing claims by congressional Republicans that the FBI and/or the Clinton campaign had commissioned the dossier specifically to serve as an excuse for a phony investigation, as part of resistance to Donald Trump coming from "deep state" elements in the FBI, the Justice Department, and Hillary Clinton's secret cabal of reptilian wizards.

But in the testimony, Glenn Simpson - under oath - confirms what the FBI and the New York Times been saying for a while now, which is that the dossier was not the thing that started the FBI's investigation. That came from a human source inside the Trump campaign, widely believed to be campaign aide George Papadopoulos, who had foolishly decided to share drinks with His Excellency Alexander Downer, Australian High Commissioner to the UK. Intoxicated by Downer's sexual magnetism, and also by alcohol, Papadopoulos ran his mouth about how Russia was telling the Trump campaign that they had stacks of Clinton emails waiting to be released on the sly. Downer, who is a high-level diplomat, discreetly relayed this information to the FBI, which was what caused the FBI to begin investigating connections between the Trump campaign and the Russian government.

The dossier did not come until afterwards, which is good, because the dossier is probably bogus; some of it has been corroborated, much of it hasn't, and its most notorious claim - that the Russians have video evidence of Trump paying prostitutes to urinate on a hotel bed - seems too incredible to be true. The dossier's weakness is precisely why congressional Republicans have been paying so much attention to it while ignoring other, stronger pieces of evidence; by making it seem as if the dossier was the basis for the entire investigation and then discrediting the dossier, they can discredit the investigation.

Notably, the NYT report is now almost two weeks old, but Senate Republicans on the judiciary committee had refused to release the testimony from Glenn Simpson that would corroborate it, because they knew that would also contradict what Fox News and their own colleagues were saying about the dossier. Dianne Feinstein - who has now earned the title of "Sneaky Dianne" from the POTUS, who is under the impression that she has committed a crime - decided to breach decorum and release the testimony on her own authority, largely because the Republican senators on the committee were trying to keep it under wraps and also because Glenn Simpson asked them to.

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In other news: Politico has made the excellent observation despite Bannon infamously predicting that investigators would "crack Don Jr like an egg on national TV," neither Donald Trump Jr. nor any other members of Trump's inner circle - other than experienced lawyers such as Sessions - have been called to testify publicly.

Why could this be, you may ask? For starters, it would not go well for Don Jr. Setting aside his shifting accounts of the Russia meeting, Son Donald shares his father's intellect, restraint, self-consciousness, and respect for the truth. Which is to say that he would probably crumble dramatically under the strain of a Senate hearing. Some of the most important turning points in the history of political scandals have happened on live broadcast - it puts the public face-to-face with the credibility (or lack thereof) of the person being interrogated.

Speaking of which, in the past couple of days there have been some rumours that Trump Himself may be preparing for a face-to-face interview with Robert Mueller and his team. This would, of course, be catastrophically dangerous for the president, because it is a felony to lie to the FBI and he is almost physically incapable of going more than five minutes without lying.

When questioned whether he would go under oath (as he promised last June), the President gave his typical "we'll see what happens" line, which usually means "no." He also dropped a jab at Hillary Clinton, because of course he did. He also repeated the belief that there was no need for an interview because "when they have no collusion and nobody's found any collusion at any level, it seems unlikely that you'd even have an interview."

But Trump is more in danger of prosecution for obstruction of justice than anything else. Collusion isn't even a clearly-defined crime; it would require prosecutors to argue that receiving documentary intelligence - i.e. stolen emails - counts as a "contribution" to the campaign, as it is illegal under federal election law for a campaign to accept contributions from a foreign power. But when it comes to obstruction of justice, the case is almost hilariously open-and-shut; it's basically public knowledge now that Trump fired James Comey because James Comey refused to drop an active FBI investigation into members of Trump's campaign and administration. Trump said so himself.

bastardofmelbourne:
But Trump is more in danger of prosecution for obstruction of justice than anything else.

An investigation about an investigation.

BREAKING NEWS: Steve Bannon, former Trump Aide and Former head of Breitbart News (twice) has been subpoena'd by Robert Mueller, the Special Prosecutor. It is currently unknown why he's been subpoena'd, it is possible that this is a negotiation tactic; that Bannon testify to Mueller about any wrongdoings the White House/Trump Admin has committed, and he is safe from any crime that may come up through said investigation.

Considering how influential Bannon was with Trump, this subpoena is huge regardless.

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