I need to break up a couple for a friend (even though I think it's wrong) help me out here...

Okay so let me get this out of the way now: I AM GAY, that'll clear up some questions later on...

Alright, so one of my best friends,lets call him "P",(who I have a huge crush on) is also gay. He hasn't been in a relationship since January and he's feeling very depressed and alone. (and yes, I've asked him out, several times actually, he's already established that he thinks of me more as a brother, and that it's simply never going to happen) It really pains me to see him like this and I want to help him in any way within my power but...
P has a crush on this Bi dude who both of us have been friends with for a while, we'll call him "A". Anyway, A is currently in a relationship with a girl he's been dating on and off for 2 years now, from the looks of things their relationship looks very solid and all seems well, but from what P and all my other friends have told me, the only reason the two of them keep going back to each other is because they're just afraid of being single, and that in reality there's nothing real between them.
That in mind, P has actively asked me to break up A and his girlfriend, because apparently A and P have a sort of agreement that if such an event occurred that the two of them would start dating. Now as much as I would love to see P happy, and if A really isn't happy in his relationship than this might be for the best, one thing keeps returning to my mind, that what I am doing is HOMEWRECKING, there's no suger-coating it, that is the act I am willingly taking part, THIS FEELS WRONG.
And on top of the moral dilemma, how would I even manage to pull this off? There's rarely a situation where A isn't with his girlfriend, and I have no experience with this sort of thing, I honestly have no ideas...
So Escapists, This community is like family to me, should I go through with this? And if so, how should I go about doing it?

I'm going to say something rather odd, I think.

Considering you're pretty much the only one without a stake in this one, you could pull a rather shifty move, invite all three over, lay the cards down, then moderate the inevitable "discussion".

That, of course, is prone to blowing up in your face with near 100% certainty, while still being the only way of both accomplishing your "mission" and remaining honest without stabbing anyone in the back. But it looks to me like all three of them need to make up their minds on what they want.

Play them at their own game. Get a recorded confession from A and threaten to make it public unless P goes out with you :P

Serious answer: don't do it.

If it feels wrong, it is wrong.

P is trying to manipulate things so A will go out with them, and getting you to do their dirty work. If I were you, I would say no. It feels like homewrecking because it is.
It's not your deal, so I'd just bin the whole thing and get on with your life.

Seems to me best not to get involved with this situation. I know P is your friend and you care for his happiness, but he shouldn't be asking you to to do his dirty work for him.

If P likes A but A isn't happy in his current relationship (just afraid of being single) then if P is honest about things, A shouldn't have anything to worry about (as A would not be single, which apparently is what A is afraid of).

In a nutshell, no you shouldn't do it. This is something P needs to handle himself.

Does that make sense?
I feel like I'm doing a math problem.

Phasmal:
If it feels wrong, it is wrong.

P is trying to manipulate things so A will go out with them, and getting you to do their dirty work. If I were you, I would say no. It feels like homewrecking because it is.
It's not your deal, so I'd just bin the whole thing and get on with your life.

This, if you ever stop and think to yourself "this feels wrong" then it's wrong, and don't do it.

It kind of disturbs me that I've had to explain this more frequently as of late.

Note: that is not a shot at you OP, you are at least trying to help a friend who has put you in a tough spot, which is not a very friend-like thing to do.

artanis_neravar:

Phasmal:
If it feels wrong, it is wrong.

P is trying to manipulate things so A will go out with them, and getting you to do their dirty work. If I were you, I would say no. It feels like homewrecking because it is.
It's not your deal, so I'd just bin the whole thing and get on with your life.

This, if you ever stop and think to yourself "this feels wrong" then it's wrong, and don't do it.

It kind of disturbs me that I've had to explain this more frequently as of late.

Note: that is not a shot at you OP, you are at least trying to help a friend who has put you in a tough spot, which is not a very friend-like thing to do.

Thirded. Given that right and wrong are pretty relative, anyway, if it feels wrong, don't do that shit.

Speaking of relative,

CAPTCHA: sacred cow

Sacred to some, tasty to others

You know what this reminds me of?

Remember when you were eight years old, and some kid would come running up to you in the playground and ask if you'd do something for him? So you'd say, 'OK then, what?' and he'd reply, 'Will you ask Lucy if she wants to go out with me?'

And do you know what I said every time? I always said no. Because if this kid really wanted to go out with Lucy, then he'd have asked her himself rather than getting a middleman to do it.

Your situation is essentially the same as this -- it may be with adults (I'm assuming?) but it's exactly the same bullshit. If P wants to get with A and, as a result, commit a morally questionable act to do so (to put it lightly), then that's his burden to bear. He has absolutely no right to ask you such a thing or put you in that position, because if shit hits the fan, it's not going to be P who gets blamed: it's going to be you. It doesn't matter if he was the one who put you up to it and you were only "following orders". You suspected it was wrong, but you did it anyway.

If he wants A, then by God, he can go and get A himself. It sounds to me like he wants to break up A and his girlfriend, but he doesn't want any of the consequences if things go awry -- which is where you step in. That's not right. If he wants to wreck a relationship, then he should do it himself and face the consequences himself, not shove them onto someone else. You may want to help your friend, given that you like him and he's going through a rough spot at the moment, and I can sympathise, but I'd go so far as to say that an actual friend would know to never put you in such an awkward, horrible position in the first place.

TL;DR: Don't do it, and preferably wash your hands of the whole thing. It's not your business.

Also, if something feels wrong and you have to pause and question why you're doing something, it's usually very telling that you had to stop and question it at all.

Don't get anymore involved, just walk away while you have the chance.

Yeah, this is bad mojo.

If P is such a sociopathic, manipulative nut that they don't see the intrinsic immorality of trying to control other peoples' relationships for his own benefit, you can put it in practical terms like this:

If A is unwilling to see for himself that his relationship is no good, then he's an unworthy partner for P. People who can't figure out how to be happy for themselves create drama, and drama should be avoided unless one is a high school sophomore who doesn't know any better.

That's fucked up, yo.
Either let P do the act or just leave them to their own devices. Don't get messed up in needless relationship drama.

Your friend is selfish. How would you feel if someone destroyed your happiness because they wanted your partner?
I don't know what you say about A and his girlfriend is true. If so, that's the wrong reason to be in a relationship and they'll soon realise and break up. But what's to say he will date P? What if he gets back with his girlfriend?
Don't get involved. Tell P you'll have nothing to do with it and he should do the decent thing by leaving them alone. Maybe it'll work out for him and they'll break up, she'll find someone else and A and P can be together. Or he look for someone who isn't already taken.

Tell him to fuck off, he is being a pissy little prick and if he wants to break up a couple so he can date one of em, he is a fucking loser, you said you care about him and he rejected you in favor of someone already taken. Tell him to stop being a big baby.

Okay, I'm getting a generally unanimous response thus far, I should go with my gut and not go through with this. As much as I want to see P happy, and as much as I think P & A would make a great couple I just can't ruin A's relationship, he's my friend too, and if his relationship really is as fake as I've been made to believe than he'll get out of it himself.
I need to stop getting involved in drama like this, it NEVER turns out good for me...

Gmans uncle:
So Escapists, This community is like family to me, should I go through with this? And if so, how should I go about doing it?

I'd stay the hell out of it. It isn't your job to break people up. If P wants to date A, and if he's morally ok with it, he can go about trying to break up A and (was it C? - anyway, the girlfriend) up himself. It's isn't really fair to demand it of you.
If you've got a bad feeling, you should probably stick with it. It might well all blow up regardless of what you do, and if you stick with your instincts at least you won't feel guilty later.

Don't do it.
It is not your place to tell people that what they are doing is wrong. It doesn't matter how you feel about them, or how they feel about each other, neither of them is going to thank you for breaking them up. No one should ask you to break up a relationship and you should not take it on to do so either. They will either come to terms with themselves eventually or they will remain unhappy. All you can do is ask one of them the leading questions, and let them come to their own conclusions.

 

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