So yeah 20 years old virgin . Never had a relashionship . Mostly becouse most people i meet are so dull and im lucky if i meat someone i tolerate . But i think you guys propably know where this is turning . So the whole virginity thing is kinda bugging me . So should i just get a hooker and get it over or actually try doing it ,, the proper '' way i . e dating and that kinda shit dont think that'll work atleast for now i did try it that way before but , i most likely came off desperate so i had shitty luck there . So yeah give me advice .
Response from an almost 20 year old virgin who also hasn't been in a relationship yet:
I don't usually comment in this section but if you want my advise in short: Don't worry about it, you'll meet someone eventually.
Proper answer:
Don't worry about it, I don't know much about you so from a generalist perspective, society does place a lot of pressure on people our age to be in a relationship, to be what so many think of as 'normal' and when for whatever reason we cannot find someone to be with it can be disheartening at the least and terrible at the worst. My advice don't ever give up, I know it seems the logical thing but its better to try something else, maybe get a job, take up a sport or art (I know it made me feel better).
I'm sorry to be so general but its the best I can do.
Two more things: I have no experience with hookers but I doubt its a good idea for a virgin and I would recommend being with someone you trust for the first time.
Secondly, you mention you find few people you 'tolerate' (I assume you're male and you refer to females) Its a possibility that you may be something other than hetrosexual. Its only a suggestion thats probably wrong but it may help :)
Honestly, the whole bull-shit about having to "get to know" someone, and "love them" etc. It's all under religious context, which I consider ridiculous.
Australia has a legal hooker business in it's capital, and I don't see the world ending over there any time soon.
But you seem to hold yourself in really high regard, you're coming off as sounding like you think you're better than these people. If anything, that might be the thing that's putting people off.
Mostly becouse most people i meet are so dull and im lucky if i meat someone i tolerate
I don't know if you yourself are a barrel of laughs but it's not nice to think most people you meet are dull or intolerable. Especially when you first meet a person, a lot of folks don't want to show their true colours for a few months. If you think they're dull at first meeting then you're just being impatient and need to give them time to develop their personality around you.
You don't sound enthusiastic about a relationship either ("Dating and that kind of shit"...) so you certainly don't sound interested in having sex because you want to, but because it what is the social norm.
So, don't worry about it because being a virgin at 20 is nothing to be ashamed off. You may have to lower your standards or be patient though, I'm sure half these people you mention are nice if you took the time to get to know them.
Maybe you should wait until your old enough to go to the bars. Eventually wait around long enough until you find some vagina in a minskirt that wants to show you her lovenest.
EeveeElectro: I don't know if you yourself are a barrel of laughs but it's not nice to think most people you meet are dull or intolerable. Especially when you first meet a person, a lot of folks don't want to show their true colours for a few months. If you think they're dull at first meeting then you're just being impatient and need to give them time to develop their personality around you.
You don't sound enthusiastic about a relationship either ("Dating and that kind of shit"...) so you certainly don't sound interested in having sex because you want to, but because it what is the social norm.
So, don't worry about it because being a virgin at 20 is nothing to be ashamed off. You may have to lower your standards or be patient though, I'm sure half these people you mention are nice if you took the time to get to know them.
There is a lot of really, really good stuff here to think about, Iranoutofnames. I hope you do so.
20 isn't so late to have sex. I would say that no age is really too late to be a virgin, but it is nice to get some experience while you're young and healthy enough to enjoy it. The key though is if you're having sex just to get it checked off a list by a certain age, I kinda doubt you're going to get much out of is.
If you want to go the prostitute route, I'm not going to get into the whole "Is it moral or immoral" issue. That's something you'll have to work out for yourself. I will recommend you at least be responsible about who you go to though. You'll have to figure out how to do your own research, but please if you do go to a working girl try to find someone who is in the business because they want to be, not because they have to be. Globalism and human trafficking is driving down the price of exotic women, and it sounds like with that comes a lot of nasty things. I'm not exactly saying "buy local", but try to be aware of the issues at play beyond your own boner.
Personally, I've always thought the only reason I want to have sex is for two purposes- to pleasure a woman I want to pleasure and to please myself. Doing it just to keep up with the status quo of guys your age is a pretty poor reason, IMHO. Because if there's one thing I've learned growing older, it's that there are a lot of terrible people out there having a lot of terrible sex. Getting laid isn't a mark of the quality you have as a person, it's a mark of your ability to find women who are willing to say yes to you that you actually want to be with. There's no shame in being picky. But the way you talk about judging other people... you might have some think-time about if there's shame in that.
I agree. Wait until you are old enough to go to a bar. Then you will probably meet tons of girls. Sure they many not be all mentally stimulating but many wil be just plain, nice.
The prostitute thing is ok too. It's only in modern history that men losing the virginity has become " lame" or an easy way out. Think about it. If you are doing something for the first time, wouldn't you want to do it with professional guidance?lol
Anyhow the virginity thing is over rated. It happens when it happens, and you can't be to young or too old. 20 is definitely not too old.
"get it over with"... sorry mate but the ye olde illusion that popping the cherry will be life changing event is just that, an illusion. Because nothing will change, it will be a night of fun and everything else will be as it was.
What can be a life changing event however is busting out of your shell, step into the crazy dating world and forge your metal in the heat of battle, that drastic change of life pace is what will make you seem like a new man. That "everyone is dull" line is just something you are hiding behind and justifying avoidance from the scary leap, I know this because I did it too, it is all very scary until you get the hang of it, but now that you came this far it is the perfect time to take a deep breath and go at it.
It isn't about sex, it is about overcoming lifes great hurdles, sex is just a very good incentive to do it.
Mr.K.: "get it over with"... sorry mate but the ye olde illusion that popping the cherry will be life changing event is just that, an illusion. Because nothing will change, it will be a night of fun and everything else will be as it was.
What can be a life changing event however is busting out of your shell, step into the crazy dating world and forge your metal in the heat of battle, that drastic change of life pace is what will make you seem like a new man. That "everyone is dull" line is just something you are hiding behind and justifying avoidance from the scary leap, I know this because I did it too, it is all very scary until you get the hang of it, but now that you came this far it is the perfect time to take a deep breath and go at it.
It isn't about sex, it is about overcoming lifes great hurdles, sex is just a very good incentive to do it.
Mr.K.: "get it over with"... sorry mate but the ye olde illusion that popping the cherry will be life changing event is just that, an illusion. Because nothing will change, it will be a night of fun and everything else will be as it was.
What can be a life changing event however is busting out of your shell, step into the crazy dating world and forge your metal in the heat of battle, that drastic change of life pace is what will make you seem like a new man. That "everyone is dull" line is just something you are hiding behind and justifying avoidance from the scary leap, I know this because I did it too, it is all very scary until you get the hang of it, but now that you came this far it is the perfect time to take a deep breath and go at it.
It isn't about sex, it is about overcoming lifes great hurdles, sex is just a very good incentive to do it.
I agree, anytime I think about when I have had sex I can't remember almost anything about it, almost lime that part of my mental timeline wasn't important enough to have details in it and instead inserted a [I had sex] tag and saved some space. What was important was the friends and relationships I had along the way. So much more was important and meaningful if you are happy with how you feel in life and still a virgin that's what matters.
Don't worry about it. There is no point in losing your virginity for the sake of it, and your first time is only a memorable one if it's awful. If you're not bothered about relationships right now then just wait until you meet someone you do care about. No one really cares about the virginity thing anyway.
I don't understand this "you'll always remember your first time, make it special" idea. Sex is like any other skill or activity, you get better at it with practice. Once you've lost you're virginity, you'll be a lot more willing to try new things and you'll understand what to do and not to do during sex.
Honestly, if you have the money and it really means that much to you, there's no shame in hiring a hooker (just make sure you use REALLY good protection). But if you come off desperate when you go out with new girls, you're worrying too much about sex for the sake of fulfilling what you think you're societal "role" is. You shouldn't be trying to get laid, you should be trying to accomplish your goals in life. You'll have an easier time relating to women if there's more to your life than trying to get with them, and you'll probably have a more honest relationship with them that way.
What you are suffering from is Approach Anxiety. 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Katatori-kun: The key though is if you're having sex just to get it checked off a list by a certain age, I kinda doubt you're going to get much out of is.
Pretty much this, really. "Everybody's doing it" always failed as a sales pitch in my eyes. Not saying you'd have to go out of your way to actively avoid sex, but, as said here, doing it just for the sake of checking it off a to-do list kind of defeats the purpose of it.
I'll just agree with what EeveeElectro said, you do come across as a little up yourself. I don't see the appeal of facial hair, it's prickly and unkempt looking, but that's subjective.
While I agree that there is literally no failing, and even if you randomly go up to a girl you are making awesome progress. The one thing I don't agree with is I know plenty of women who feel uneasy with having some man randomly come up and talk to them outside of a social environment.
All the hygiene stuff is damn true. Cologne also helps in case you antiperspirant wasn't applied that well, or your arm pits were a little too wet from the shower. That all depends on your routine, just another thing to think about.
Make friends, a few of them, be social with people at your job. I have met more women as friends of friends and coworkers than I ever will in any random encounter. Other people, or sharing the same workplace (and by default sharing a commonality) helps melt a little of that schism away.
But here is the advice I was given when I asked this question. Make yourself happy first. Then spread that happiness to people, then you will attract people. I'll admit it takes time to adjust but I think it's working for me.
So yeah 20 years old virgin . Never had a relashionship . Mostly becouse most people i meet are so dull and im lucky if i meat someone i tolerate . But i think you guys propably know where this is turning . So the whole virginity thing is kinda bugging me . So should i just get a hooker and get it over or actually try doing it ,, the proper '' way i . e dating and that kinda shit dont think that'll work atleast for now i did try it that way before but , i most likely came off desperate so i had shitty luck there . So yeah give me advice .