My Little Pony - The Movie - Bring it, Bronies

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Hawki:

Arnoxthe1:
You can like what you like but just don't tell me that the show isn't for little girls. Or that it's full of this supposedly great writing. It succeeds in entertaining little girls and delivering simple moral lessons. And that's cool because that's the target demographic. So in that, it's good.

Compared to adult-aimed writing in general? No, sorry. And I'm not saying that adult writing needs to be grimdark and brooding all the time. FFS I really didn't like The Last of Us because it was too much. But you get what I mean.

Don't know if this is the "royal you" or a "specific you," but in this, I more or less agree. Young girls are the target audience. I'd call the writing "good," overall, if not "great," and you're going to get more complex writing from adult shows (which I have - I certainly don't watch MLP for intricate plots or overly-complex characters).

On the other hand, MLP seems to be in a weird state considering how other cartoons have played out. Something that comes to mind is Adventure Time, which has been similarly praised for "great characters" and "complex writing" and various other acolades, and is also enjoyed by people of age above the target demographic. Personally, I find Adventure Time to be absolutely rancid (well, season 1 at least, season 2 scrapes by into "bearable" territory), but I'm well aware that many people love the show, and more power to them. Far as I can tell, in this day and age, MLP is an oddity in that people appear to have an insecurity about people liking MLP when they aren't the target demographic, but give other cartoons a free pass. And if we're talking about the fanbase, at least in personal experience, it seems pretty benign, especially since this is a world where the Steven Universe fan artist 'controversy' occurred.

Oh, I can tell you exactly why MLP is the odd cartoon out. Its not cause the target audience is kids, if that was the case then transformers would never have gotten a movie. Its because the target is females and everyone knows anything females like is bad. Obvious sarcasm. But think about it, what media that is aimed at females isn't demonized. Pretty much the only one that comes to mind is hunger games and I'm not sure you can really say its aimed at females. The media has to pretty much prove that it's not just "chick stuff" to get any kind of a pass. And since MLP has those candy colored miniature equines, the first reaction will always "girls ewwwwwwww."

Saelune:
If you arent a fan of MLP, this movie is a 2 star. This was not a fan review written for fans. It was an outsider's review, written for outsiders, fully acknowledging it was by and for outsiders.

How can Marter review it 'as a fan' if he isnt one?

Yet I can go to /mlp/ and get reviews of the movie from fans of the series who both liked it, didn't like it, and give reasons why.

Simply put how can Marter it 'as a fan' if he isn't one? Simple: he shouldn't review it at all out of journalistic integrity. The title of the article contains, "Bring it, Bronies." It's a polemic before word one, little more than a stinkpiece aimed at an easy target.

Again, believe it or not, there are fans of the show who don't like everything about it, and those are the opinions I want.

NewClassic:

Worgen:
Also, hi tanker, here is your forum mandated pony.

lacktheknack:
inb4 Ameri- dangit.

Klagermeister:
You're pretty quick to step into threads discussing stuff you dislike

Tanis:
@American Tanker: Be careful what you wish for...mwahahhahahaa

While I appreciate this comment section getting some traffic, hopping in just to antagonize someone isn't really a cool way to go about it. Keep the comments section more to the review than poking fun at your fellow forum users, if you'd please.

And yet you say nothing to Tanker who could have not posted at all in this thread.

And people wonder why others left.

I was really with the whole Brony subculture back in '11-'12 because I took it as a sign that nerds on the internet would finally start embracing positivity and innocent, wholesome fun a bit more. As it turned out, rather than embracing these things they just started corrupting the show itself and making it weirdly sexual in many cases while at the same time applying the same elitism and pointless, self conratulatory sense of exclusivity to it, that they apply to everything else they get excited about. And, reasonably, that's what I should have expected but being a lot more optimistic than would have been reasonable I thought that noone would seriously treat fandom of a show about ponies as serious business.

I was wrong and the fanbase of MLP ended up just as much of a mess as every other reasonably large fanbase but by the point it happened I was very well aware that I should have seen it coming.

I've seen this movie for old times sake and... eh, it was nothing special, even by the shows standards. It was always at its best when it does character driven sitcom plots and at its worst when it does adventure. The movie was watchable but sure as hell not memorable. Also, the artstyle is slightly off. I dunno why but the faces are just a bit more human looking which pushes them right into the uncanny valley.

RedRockRun:

Saelune:
If you arent a fan of MLP, this movie is a 2 star. This was not a fan review written for fans. It was an outsider's review, written for outsiders, fully acknowledging it was by and for outsiders.

How can Marter review it 'as a fan' if he isnt one?

Yet I can go to /mlp/ and get reviews of the movie from fans of the series who both liked it, didn't like it, and give reasons why.

Simply put how can Marter it 'as a fan' if he isn't one? Simple: he shouldn't review it at all out of journalistic integrity. The title of the article contains, "Bring it, Bronies." It's a polemic before word one, little more than a stinkpiece aimed at an easy target.

Again, believe it or not, there are fans of the show who don't like everything about it, and those are the opinions I want.

You do not understand what reviews even are for then if you think this. Reviews arent there to suck up to fans. Reviews are there to express opinions in ways to help others pre-form an opinion.

RedRockRun:
Again, believe it or not, there are fans of the show who don't like everything about it, and those are the opinions I want.

Then, I have an opinion for you! It was... okay. Not great. Just okay.

I really did not care for the cat character. He and his music number could have been cut from the movie and nothing of value would have been lost.

They kept jumping from new location to new location (lizard/fish town, parrot/pirate ship, hippogriff town), that the movie feels unfocused. If they had chosen only one of those locations and explored it more in depth, the movie would have been better. Or, if they felt the need to jump around from place to place, I would have preferred they choose locales that were already visited by the show.

Also, since when was MLP about gathering an army together? But, if that's the direction they choose to go in, why not send Pinky Pie to gather some Yaks, Rainbow Dash to gather some Griffons, Spike to gather some Dragons, Twilight to gather some Changelings, Fluttershy to get Discord. They've spent seasons building these relationships with the various other factions. If there was a time to cash in those chips, this is the time.

NewClassic:
hopping in just to antagonize someone isn't really a cool way to go about it. Keep the comments section more to the review than poking fun at your fellow forum users, if you'd please.

There's a proverb that if you save someone's life, they become your responsibility.

There's only one poster in this thread that has been off topic, and that the one that YOU mods unbanned. So, his actions are YOUR responsibility. Either make sure that he stays out of Pony threads if he can't play nice with others, or show him back to the door.

Why is there no black pony? This film is racist.

bjj hero:
Why is there no black pony? This film is racist.

Oh please, everyone knows that Rarity is black. You can't be that fabulous and be white.
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Worgen:

bjj hero:
Why is there no black pony? This film is racist.

Oh please, everyone knows that Rarity is black. You can't be that fabulous and be white.
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Da fuq?

BS, I say, BS! Everyone knows that Rainbow is gay for Applejack, not Fluttershy!

bjj hero:
Why is there no black pony? This film is racist.

There's a zebra.

Hawki:

Worgen:

bjj hero:
Why is there no black pony? This film is racist.

Oh please, everyone knows that Rarity is black. You can't be that fabulous and be white.
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Da fuq?

BS, I say, BS! Everyone knows that Rainbow is gay for Applejack, not Fluttershy!

No way, shes totally gay for Rarity.
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MrCalavera:

bjj hero:
Why is there no black pony? This film is racist.

There's a zebra.

Thats even worse. Shes white and appropriating black culture.

I am going to see this tonight. I figure I've waited long enough that I won't get weird looks from parents now.

Marter:
My Little Pony - The Movie - Bring it, Bronies

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I am glad that you are back. I am disappointed that you choose this movie to publish last weekend. Instead of one of the new releases. I saw three of them that came out last weekend. All of them were original IPs. Instead of the belated sequel and a belated movie spinoff. The best part are all of them were really good. If you are not interested in cartoon ponies and a badly written sequel to an overrated movie, check out The Foreigner, Happy Death Day, and Professor Marstons and The Wonder Women.

I have one question for you. Why are there so many movies this year that features John Denver songs? So far, his songs have been featured in Free Fire, Alien: Covenant, Kingman: The Golden Circle, and Logan Lucky.

what kind of clickbait is this?

first the anti-gamergate article, now this? An anti-brony article?

come on Escapist. Are you letting anyone shit all over your brand now?

webkilla:
what kind of clickbait is this?

first the anti-gamergate article, now this? An anti-brony article?

come on Escapist. Are you letting anyone shit all over your brand now?

What brand?

Somehow I doubt the villain in this movie is much to write home about, considering the first major villain in the show tried to send the whole world into a perpetual night, and the second was a reality-warper who twisted the main town the show takes place in into something resembling Alice in Wonderland on crack. I didn't watch the show after that, so I can't say how the other villains compare, but what the hey...

For the most part, you're not wrong I guess.

I don't think it was made for the fans though. It was made for the corporate suits, and it showed.

What even was with the giant talking cat? Cats exist in the MLP universe. They are neither sapient, anthropomorphic, nor twice the size of a pony (the littleness of the pony notwithstanding.)
The same can be said of the giant, leprous parrot pirates, and weird villagers in general. The art style was completely inconsistent and jarring. The ponies went to a far off country, not a Cronenberg dimension.

What were the Storm king's minions even supposed to be? Giant, 'roided out badgers?

The sea ponies didn't even get to say "Shoo be do, shoo shoo be do."

I rate it 4 Nits picked out of 10.

BeeGeenie:

What even was with the giant talking cat? Cats exist in the MLP universe. They are neither sapient, anthropomorphic, nor twice the size of a pony (the littleness of the pony notwithstanding.)

Is that a problem? It's been established since season 1 that dogs exist as both pets (Winona) and as anthropomorphic animals (the diamond dogs). Surely cats can get the same treatment.

Hawki:

BeeGeenie:

What even was with the giant talking cat? Cats exist in the MLP universe. They are neither sapient, anthropomorphic, nor twice the size of a pony (the littleness of the pony notwithstanding.)

Is that a problem? It's been established since season 1 that dogs exist as both pets (Winona) and as anthropomorphic animals (the diamond dogs). Surely cats can get the same treatment.

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I suppose there could be a species of giant sapient cat similar to diamond dogs. I still don't like it, but you have a point.

I find it infinitely weird people feel the need to to spend 4 paragraphs crapping on a subsect of Western adults that like a children's tv show because they like colourful stylized depictions of something vaguely equine... aimed at kids.

As opposed to the fact that there is people that still watch Fox News. Which is a collection of colourful, stylized depictions of journalists that vaguely resemble asses ... also aimed at children.

I don't get the fandom, but I get why it become popular. It's bright, colurful characters that live in a socialist agrarian utopia of plenty. What's not to like?

But after that, I paint the idea of brony culture is more so a self-consuming vacuum of people spending ridiculous amounts of time telling them they shouldn't like bright, colourful equine-esque creatures. And given that fairly juvenile material is marketed to adults all the time there was a similar backlash of people that thought the show was great and not too indifferent from the usual crap we consume, just packaged into a more cross-aged bracket delivery package.

On it's own it's no more offensive to my sensibilities as the rest of the puerile crap we put on tv, and if you're going to watch puerile crap it might as well be funny and colourful.

Take American_Tanker for instance, the backlash against adults enjoying colourful things is no less silly or stupid than the effort it takes to respnd to every Pony thread I've seen on the Escapist.

It's a bunch of colourfully drawn vague-equines. About the most insulting it is that it has no more basis to be thn still assuming girls like ponies and as a vehicle for capitalising on the appetites of people who can never own a real horse. I had a real horse as a kid, and you juyst see how much fun it is when they get colic because they broke the orchard line fence and got stuck into the nectarines.

Or when you have to clean their hooves, or when they fucking kick you because you picked up a hose without thinking... And that is the story of how I dislocated my right arm.

Would have been better if they were talking motorcycles. They should market motorcycles to young girls. You can realistically own a motorcycle in your average technocratic society. Talking, flying, magical motorcycles less so, but suspension of disbelief. I imagine Rarity being an purple STX1300. Upright sportstourer, decent power-to-weight ratio with the factory standard side panel accessories. Modern trimmings, but a classic ST1100 frame and handling that is time tested elegance.

McMarbles:

webkilla:
what kind of clickbait is this?

first the anti-gamergate article, now this? An anti-brony article?

come on Escapist. Are you letting anyone shit all over your brand now?

What brand?

...shitting on a brand, desecrating a grave - call it whatever you want.

but ya, the article is shit

the original show-runner said that she designed the characters and the show specifically so adults and children alike could enjoy the show - so parents could bond with their children by enjoying the show together. hell, there are enough adult Transformers fans to make their movies viable, and that started as a toy franchise as well.

The movie was alright, seemed more like a movie-length episode, but it managed to remain on-tone and delivered the pony appeal. More importantly, it managed to rekindle my priorities to watch more pony when I had fallen off the friendship wagon about halfway through season 5. From what I gather, I'm not the only one.

Seems to me like Pony's still alive and well. I guess a lot of the trend followers have moved on, but hey, I was always into MLP:FIM because it was good, not because it was popular. It warms my heart to see it still is popping up on Internet searches, forums, and as avatars on popular image boards. It's well part of our Internet culture now, and I don't think it's going anywhere.

As for the quality of the show, I think Faust was right to say that she left it in good hands, these latest seasons I watched are great. Season 7 just ended, Season 8 is fully into production. I don't know what the viewer numbers look like, but I think it has weathered the transition to the Internet better than most brands, and I think Hasbro knows it.

As for this bit:

But the "bronies," as they have since become known as, it was an obsession. Many of them started using pony puns and .gifs in conversations and areas that were not receptive to them, then cried "oppression" when others reacted negatively.

I never saw that coming from a brony in my neck of the woods. In general, the haters were the ones crying oppression, they felt left out and hated seeing pony everywhere when they weren't into it.

First, I'm disappointed in The Escapist. As someone who's been largely checking in once a week for the new ZP episode, seeing the slow decline from the heyday (with other shows like Extra Credits) to the empty shell it is now is kinda sad. This used to be my gaming news source. But when an article expressly states its intent to upset a certain demographic (which does overlap with some of its readers), directly antagonizing them, I can't do anything but just shake my head at the state of things.

As a fan of the series myself, I will say that I agree the movie is definitely for fans. It assumes you know pretty much everything not new to the movie to begin with, and certainly isn't going to win any people dragged along. That said, as a fan, I greatly enjoyed what was there! It did feel like there was about 2/7ths of a movie missing, since two of the Mane 6 don't really do anything, but I enjoyed it.

Speaking as a fan of visuals, this is the first 2D animated movie I've seen since The Simpsons Movie, a full decade ago. The animation there had nothing on this movie; it was a treat to see (and hear; the music is also pretty on-point) and I do hope more studios try for 2D animation with modern innovations.

As for what seasons are "better", frankly, every season has its ups and downs. Some have more or less, but every season had at least a couple exemplar episodes. I feel like arguing the seasons as a whole isn't very useful, let alone productive.

Well the comments can't be that bad and-OH GOD SHIPPING! ABANDON SHIP!

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A cartoon show aimed at little girls is shallow and silly? Imagine my shock.

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