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Hob and Hat in Time

Yahtzee Reviews Hob and Hat in Time

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Doki Doki Literature Club is not upbeat cartoon pornography. To say precisely what it is would spoil the surprise, but it's most certainly not that.

09philj:
Doki Doki Literature Club is not upbeat cartoon pornography. To say precisely what it is would spoil the surprise, but it's most certainly not that.

To someone who doesn't intend to play the game or mind spoilers, what is the game about?

HazardousCube:

09philj:
Doki Doki Literature Club is not upbeat cartoon pornography. To say precisely what it is would spoil the surprise, but it's most certainly not that.

To someone who doesn't intend to play the game or mind spoilers, what is the game about?

It's not that long and is free, and I'd certainly say is worth playing, but:

HazardousCube:

09philj:
Doki Doki Literature Club is not upbeat cartoon pornography. To say precisely what it is would spoil the surprise, but it's most certainly not that.

To someone who doesn't intend to play the game or mind spoilers, what is the game about?

From the tvtrope page of it, it seems to pull a Madoka Magica. Within its gerne.

A Hat in Time is one of those games that I started playing, thinking it might be a fun way to blow an hour. Then, six hours later, I realize I'd accomplished nothing real that day because the game was so engaging.

P.S. Thanks

Yes Yahtzee. one more week before you can review the game that everyone's already bought or made up their mid about whether or not they'll buy it.

Hob got its concepts down pat, it's just very uninteresting concepts. Hat in Time will jerk you around and its difficulty sucks ass with walk in the park everything but boss fights where they suddenly assault you rapidly or have way too much HP to be fun and challenging resulting in tedium. Generally I find Hat in Time lives on a branch off of Super Mario Sunshine rather than develop from it, it never escapes that identity and I think it'll hurt it down the line when it's "that neat game that's a lot like Sunshine".

MonsterCrit:
Yes Yahtzee. one more week before you can review the game that everyone's already bought or made up their mid about whether or not they'll buy it.

Yeah, I think you don't grasp the concept of these videos..

Yahtzee was never one of those "watch my review before you buy it" type people.

Hmmmmmmmm boring existentialism or fun. Tough call. I'll take the fun thanks.

Dear God Yahtzee , saying that Doki Doki Literature Club is cartoon pornography is like saying Spec Ops the line is just poor mans Call of Duty.

This game is really best played blind so I'll just say that if you like Spec Ops and Undertale , you will like this one too .

Marek Ziarko:
Dear God Yahtzee , saying that Doki Doki Literature Club is cartoon pornography is like saying Spec Ops the line is just poor mans Call of Duty.

This game is really best played blind so I'll just say that if you like Spec Ops and Undertale , you will like this one too .

Spec Ops is just the angsty man's Call of Duty

Also good to know Hatty Time is fun! That's been on my radar for a bit.

Makabriel:

MonsterCrit:
Yes Yahtzee. one more week before you can review the game that everyone's already bought or made up their mid about whether or not they'll buy it.

Yeah, I think you don't grasp the concept of these videos..

Yahtzee was never one of those "watch my review before you buy it" type people.

He could be, though, if people weren't so eager to buy everything the very day it comes out like it's got a sell-by date. As one of those people who almost never buys any game before it's gone on sale or, in the case of console games, its platform has migrated to the secondhand market, a week or two is nothing.

I'm getting kinda bored of the Trump jokes. Even with the glory to the internet that is Yahtzee, I still have to be around it.

Onliuge:
I'm getting kinda bored of the Trump jokes. Even with the glory to the internet that is Yahtzee, I still have to be around it.

Whew, I was afraid I would go through the comments and not hear anyone complaining about it. But my fears were for naught. Then you should tell trump to stop being such a joke cause we still have probably 3 long years to go.

I have a new favorite recurring joke in Yahtzee's videos: the waggling tongue of someone missing most of their head, going "Gggghhhhkkklllkgghhllkklllgh!"

Worgen:

Onliuge:
I'm getting kinda bored of the Trump jokes. Even with the glory to the internet that is Yahtzee, I still have to be around it.

Whew, I was afraid I would go through the comments and not hear anyone complaining about it. But my fears were for naught. Then you should tell trump to stop being such a joke cause we still have probably 3 long years to go.

You're assuming he won't get bored and quit, impeached and removed from office, or assassinated. Trump's "manifesto" is "I rule, people who suck up to me at fine, everyone else sucks."

Darth_Payn:
I have a new favorite recurring joke in Yahtzee's videos: the waggling tongue of someone missing most of their head, going "Gggghhhhkkklllkgghhllkklllgh!"

Worgen:

Onliuge:
I'm getting kinda bored of the Trump jokes. Even with the glory to the internet that is Yahtzee, I still have to be around it.

Whew, I was afraid I would go through the comments and not hear anyone complaining about it. But my fears were for naught. Then you should tell trump to stop being such a joke cause we still have probably 3 long years to go.

You're assuming he won't get bored and quit, impeached and removed from office, or assassinated. Trump's "manifesto" is "I rule, people who suck up to me at fine, everyone else sucks."

Hence why I said "probably."

Makabriel:

MonsterCrit:
Yes Yahtzee. one more week before you can review the game that everyone's already bought or made up their mid about whether or not they'll buy it.

Yeah, I think you don't grasp the concept of these videos..

Yahtzee was never one of those "watch my review before you buy it" type people.

Yeah but at least he wasn't wuite so predictable. His material is getting stale. It's usually more interesting to hear him rant on indies because they are at least a bit more eclectic.

MonsterCrit:

Makabriel:

MonsterCrit:
Yes Yahtzee. one more week before you can review the game that everyone's already bought or made up their mid about whether or not they'll buy it.

Yeah, I think you don't grasp the concept of these videos..

Yahtzee was never one of those "watch my review before you buy it" type people.

Yeah but at least he wasn't wuite so predictable. His material is getting stale. It's usually more interesting to hear him rant on indies because they are at least a bit more eclectic.

His material is not getting "Stale" at all.

Silentpony:
Spec Ops is just the angsty man's Call of Duty.

Or it's a masterpiece of a subversive critique on ego fluffing, commodified masculinist pop-violence in modern society regardless of medium, and a work of art/entertainment that is flat out impossible in any other medium.

One or t'other.

As for Yahtzee's indies: meh. Not even sure Cat On A Hot Tin Roof Hat is on Xbox, but nothing about it particularly appeals. XBL's spat out Gone Home, Oxenfree, and The Turing Test for 'free' this month, so one down, two to go.

HazardousCube:

09philj:
Doki Doki Literature Club is not upbeat cartoon pornography. To say precisely what it is would spoil the surprise, but it's most certainly not that.

To someone who doesn't intend to play the game or mind spoilers, what is the game about?

Think David Lynch makes an anime dating sim.

HazardousCube:

09philj:
Doki Doki Literature Club is not upbeat cartoon pornography. To say precisely what it is would spoil the surprise, but it's most certainly not that.

To someone who doesn't intend to play the game or mind spoilers, what is the game about?

The game really brings out the feels when you hang out with your childhood friend.

I actually do think that it's the sort of game that Yahtzee would like.

Darth Rosenberg:

Silentpony:
Spec Ops is just the angsty man's Call of Duty.

Or it's a masterpiece of a subversive critique on ego fluffing, commodified masculinist pop-violence in modern society regardless of medium, and a work of art/entertainment that is flat out impossible in any other medium.

One or t'other.

As for Yahtzee's indies: meh. Not even sure Cat On A Hot Tin Roof Hat is on Xbox, but nothing about it particularly appeals. XBL's spat out Gone Home, Oxenfree, and The Turing Test for 'free' this month, so one down, two to go.

Like I said, angst. Oh the horrors of war! Oh the terrors of innocent bystanders! Oh the tragedy of the human condition! Oh all life is sacred!
Next week I'll be playing GTA V online running over innocents I can with a bulldozer, then its off to PUPG to snipe people, then off to Shadow of War to enslave entire tribes of Orcs and use them as battle fodder in my personal vendetta!
But I still feel bad about those people killed in that one game that one time

Silentpony:
Like I said, angst.

Y'mean social commentary you probably don't agree with?

Oh the horrors of war! Oh the terrors of innocent bystanders! Oh the tragedy of the human condition! Oh all life is sacred!
Next week I'll be playing GTA V online running over innocents I can with a bulldozer, then its off to PUPG to snipe people, then off to Shadow of War to enslave entire tribes of Orcs and use them as battle fodder in my personal vendetta!
But I still feel bad about those people killed in that one game that one time

I refused to buy or play GTAV because of its misogyny/spitefulness/commodified violence, I don't play PUBG (good for Eurogamer streams, though), and I despise Shadow Of War for glorifying the kind of ego puffing masculinist violence that absolutely contradicts everything Tolkien seemed to care about or stand for. Sooo, yeah.

Aside from all that: must a unique work of art in a given medium change society or the world to be lauded and discussed? Isn't the purpose of art to provoke questions? Questions pop-culture/society isn't asking itself nearly often enough about?

Onliuge:
I'm getting kinda bored of the Trump jokes. Even with the glory to the internet that is Yahtzee, I still have to be around it.

Im getting tired of having my country ruined by evil incompetent bigots.

Darth Rosenberg:

Silentpony:
Like I said, angst.

Y'mean social commentary you probably don't agree with?

Oh the horrors of war! Oh the terrors of innocent bystanders! Oh the tragedy of the human condition! Oh all life is sacred!
Next week I'll be playing GTA V online running over innocents I can with a bulldozer, then its off to PUPG to snipe people, then off to Shadow of War to enslave entire tribes of Orcs and use them as battle fodder in my personal vendetta!
But I still feel bad about those people killed in that one game that one time

I refused to buy or play GTAV because of its misogyny/spitefulness/commodified violence, I don't play PUBG (good for Eurogamer streams, though), and I despise Shadow Of War for glorifying the kind of ego puffing masculinist violence that absolutely contradicts everything Tolkien seemed to care about or stand for. Sooo, yeah.

Aside from all that: must a unique work of art in a given medium change society or the world to be lauded and discussed? Isn't the purpose of art to provoke questions? Questions pop-culture/society isn't asking itself nearly often enough about?

Honestly Spec Ops never pushed any envelopes. It had nothing unique or interesting to say. Everything is said about horror and war and oh my has been done a dozen times over.
I mean here's the entirety of Spec Ops summed up in with Conker at the end of Its War!

And that game at least had a drunk scarecrow in it!
Functionally Spec Ops is a fine game, but some classic? Some genre defying majesty that'll make the Top 10s in 20 years? Hardly. Its kinda' relevant now because Call of Duties are still being made, in the same way Monkey's Island was relevant when point/clicks were a thing.
Once the CoD trend gets eaten by a bear Spec Ops will be forgotten. It was a cute little distraction while it lasted, sure, but it's not the ground-breaking epic finger-to-the-eye of modern 'toxic masculinity gunho warfare CHARGE!' society you're making it out to be. Its a standard war-game with a few extra scenes of slow violins and corpses.

Silentpony:
Honestly Spec Ops never pushed any envelopes. It had nothing unique or interesting to say. Everything is said about horror and war and oh my has been done a dozen times over.

Functionally Spec Ops is a fine game, but some classic? Some genre defying majesty that'll make the Top 10s in 20 years? Hardly. Its kinda' relevant now because Call of Duties are still being made, in the same way Monkey's Island was relevant when point/clicks were a thing.
Once the CoD trend gets eaten by a bear Spec Ops will be forgotten. It was a cute little distraction while it lasted, sure, but it's not the ground-breaking epic finger-to-the-eye of modern 'toxic masculinity gunho warfare CHARGE!' society you're making it out to be. Its a standard war-game with a few extra scenes of slow violins and corpses.

I understand why you'd say all this but there's more to Spec Ops than just the horrors of war. It approaches head on the idea of America being the world police. Which I think is still pretty darn relevant considering we're STILL sitting in the Middle East, wasting a ton of money on something that will probably never get solved with more violence. Apparently, we didn't learn this lesson back in Vietnam so now we get to learn it again.

Darth_Payn:

You're assuming he won't get bored and quit, impeached and removed from office, or assassinated. Trump's "manifesto" is "I rule, people who suck up to me at fine, everyone else sucks."

What's sad is the former is most likely to happen, but the latter is least likely. All the gun nuts and paranoid shitheads are on his side, so there's no way he's getting assassinated.

On topic, I've just gone and wishlisted Hatty Time, so thanks for that Yahtzee!

Silentpony:

Darth Rosenberg:

Silentpony:
Like I said, angst.

Y'mean social commentary you probably don't agree with?

Oh the horrors of war! Oh the terrors of innocent bystanders! Oh the tragedy of the human condition! Oh all life is sacred!
Next week I'll be playing GTA V online running over innocents I can with a bulldozer, then its off to PUPG to snipe people, then off to Shadow of War to enslave entire tribes of Orcs and use them as battle fodder in my personal vendetta!
But I still feel bad about those people killed in that one game that one time

I refused to buy or play GTAV because of its misogyny/spitefulness/commodified violence, I don't play PUBG (good for Eurogamer streams, though), and I despise Shadow Of War for glorifying the kind of ego puffing masculinist violence that absolutely contradicts everything Tolkien seemed to care about or stand for. Sooo, yeah.

Aside from all that: must a unique work of art in a given medium change society or the world to be lauded and discussed? Isn't the purpose of art to provoke questions? Questions pop-culture/society isn't asking itself nearly often enough about?

Honestly Spec Ops never pushed any envelopes. It had nothing unique or interesting to say. Everything is said about horror and war and oh my has been done a dozen times over.
I mean here's the entirety of Spec Ops summed up in with Conker at the end of Its War!

And that game at least had a drunk scarecrow in it!
Functionally Spec Ops is a fine game, but some classic? Some genre defying majesty that'll make the Top 10s in 20 years? Hardly. Its kinda' relevant now because Call of Duties are still being made, in the same way Monkey's Island was relevant when point/clicks were a thing.
Once the CoD trend gets eaten by a bear Spec Ops will be forgotten. It was a cute little distraction while it lasted, sure, but it's not the ground-breaking epic finger-to-the-eye of modern 'toxic masculinity gunho warfare CHARGE!' society you're making it out to be. Its a standard war-game with a few extra scenes of slow violins and corpses.

To each her own I guess. I enjoyed what the game did with its narrative COD or no COD. Music was good to. Too bad there will never be an official release of the game's original music.

Arnoxthe1:

Silentpony:
Honestly Spec Ops never pushed any envelopes. It had nothing unique or interesting to say. Everything is said about horror and war and oh my has been done a dozen times over.

Functionally Spec Ops is a fine game, but some classic? Some genre defying majesty that'll make the Top 10s in 20 years? Hardly. Its kinda' relevant now because Call of Duties are still being made, in the same way Monkey's Island was relevant when point/clicks were a thing.
Once the CoD trend gets eaten by a bear Spec Ops will be forgotten. It was a cute little distraction while it lasted, sure, but it's not the ground-breaking epic finger-to-the-eye of modern 'toxic masculinity gunho warfare CHARGE!' society you're making it out to be. Its a standard war-game with a few extra scenes of slow violins and corpses.

I understand why you'd say all this but there's more to Spec Ops than just the horrors of war. It approaches head on the idea of America being the world police. Which I think is still pretty darn relevant considering we're STILL sitting in the Middle East, wasting a ton of money on something that will probably never get solved with more violence. Apparently, we didn't learn this lesson back in Vietnam so now we get to learn it again.

Granted, but did Spec Ops really do more, as in something unique and never done before, about the futility of mid east wars any better than say...Modern Warfare I think 3, with the nuke explosion killing off the main character half way through? I played both and I remember that crawling scene way more than any white phosphorus scenes in Spec Ops.
I guess because the idea of killing innocents is played out, even for laughs in like Stubbs the Zombie, but rarely does war actually kill the player's character half way through, forcing more characters on us.
Like if Spec Ops ended with Hero What's his Face dying, and then the next scene is more Spec Ops troops being sent in to the next combat zone by a new not-ghost Colonel, 100% not learning any lessons, that'd mean something. About futility, and hopelessness and inevitability of war, etc...
Something bad happening once is bad. Over and over and then it means something.

The fanboy attitude for criticism to Yahtzee's clever humor, being weighed down by the low hanging fruit is ridiculous. It kinda reminds me of the Mailbag Showdown. Maybe it's still funny in remote parts of the world, but as an American, it's everywhere and worn out. The rich dipshits learned that at the Emmy's and I just don't want Yahtzee to flop like they did.

Silentpony:
Everything is said about horror and war and oh my has been done a dozen times over.

/

Functionally Spec Ops is a fine game, but some classic? Some genre defying majesty that'll make the Top 10s in 20 years? Hardly. Its kinda' relevant now because Call of Duties are still being made, in the same way Monkey's Island was relevant when point/clicks were a thing.

Once the CoD trend gets eaten by a bear Spec Ops will be forgotten.

See, that's the thing, a CoD critique (or even 'war is hell') is a reductive, surface level reading. If that's all it was, then yes, it wouldn't be worth much more than a cursory critique, but actually give it some real thought - and a few playthroughs - and read up on the anecdotes and themes that inspired its curious evolution, and it's much more.

It was a cute little distraction while it lasted, sure, but it's not the ground-breaking epic finger-to-the-eye of modern 'toxic masculinity gunho warfare CHARGE!' society you're making it out to be. Its a standard war-game with a few extra scenes of slow
violins and corpses.

Methinks the critics and history will see it differently (pretty sure Yahtzee referenced it alongside Dark Souls, no less, just last week). Though I suppose it'll be regarded historically by those who embrace gaming as art and social commentary, of course, as there are folks who can't seem to understand that wacky notion.

I'll PM the rest, as this is decidedly off-topic.

Came here expecting to see either someone complaining about their overrated weeb horror game being misrepresented or a whiny president apologist, and wasn't disappointed in either case.

Thanks Yahtzee for reminding me to download the upbeat cartoon pornography.

Darth Rosenberg:

As for Yahtzee's indies: meh. Not even sure Cat On A Hot Tin Roof Hat is on Xbox, but nothing about it particularly appeals. XBL's spat out Gone Home, Oxenfree, and The Turing Test for 'free' this month, so one down, two to go.

It is on Xbone. It's also cute as fuck.

I was briefly interested in Hob when I what I read makes it sound like a Team ICO type game but I wanted to see some of the reviews before deciding.

Has anyone played it and if so, does it scratch that same kind of Itch?

Hatty time looks cute but I haven't decided if I want to grab it yet. I might wishlist it and grab it on sale or something.

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