Zero Punctuation: God of War 2018

God of War 2018

Yahtzee reviews the latest God of War

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"Combat is not great"

Well thank fucking Christ I'm not the only one.

Thank you Yahtzee, I needed a name for the Oscar bait of gaming: The hairy dad game. Seriously, how do we have a handful of those,but no proper Guerrilla Warfare game?

Wait, I thought God of War: Ascension counts as the 4th one. On home consoles, anyway.

Goliath100:
Thank you Yahtzee, I needed a name for the Oscar bait of gaming: The hair dad game. Seriously, how do we have a handful of those,but no proper Guerrilla Warfare game?

And he called Last of Us overrated. Shots fired! By Odin's beard, can you imagine the gaming equivalent of a chick flick?

The thing I remember most of this game (just from watching my younger brother play it, don't have a PS4 myself) was how in most bossfights Atreus (the BOY!) was better at taking hits than Kratos. Seriously, he could get smashed over the head with a pillar, punted 50 ft. into a wall, get stepped on like an ant, and still get up without so much as a scratch on him. Meanwhile, Kratos, the God of War, could take maybe 3 hits from the same boss before kicking the bucket.

Made me wonder why we weren't playing as Atreus instead, he was obviously more competent...

I still say got of war should have stopped being about Kratos and gone to being about some champion from another pantheon trying to kill his murderous ass. I would recommend Egypt and have the main character being about a champion of Sekhmet since shes awesome and doesn't get enough inclusion in anything.

Worgen:
I still say got of war should have stopped being about Kratos and gone to being about some champion from another pantheon trying to kill his murderous ass. I would recommend Egypt and have the main character being about a champion of Sekhmet since shes awesome and doesn't get enough inclusion in anything.

That was definitely a lost opportunity. I maintain that God of War II shouldn't have been about Kratos, but instead his brother or another character who lost someone to Kratos, making a statement about the destructive cycle of revenge. Instead II and III became unintentional parody (though admittedly those problematic elements were in the series from the beginning and it's weird how Cory Barlog is the one who's taken Kratos in this new direction. Guess he grew up) and as such there was no deeper substance or us wanting to root for Kratos on some level or even be interested in him. Plus there is no shortage of good, tragic Norse characters to use as a Kratos analog like Arngrim, Sigurd, and Volsung. And it's not like GoW is unique with Norse mythology either what with Valkyrie Profile and Odin Sphere already having done their own interpretations of it (including deconstructing Odin).

A for GoW2018, Barlog recently did an interview talking about how his own growth spurred him to want to take Kratos in a new direction. Fine and good, though I would argue that switching Kratos to "yummy, hairy dad" is just another sort of wish fulfillment fantasy for men, specifically older audiences who might now have responsibilities as parents (making me wonder if said developers also all saw Lone Wolf and Cub at the same time somehow and also that they're late to the party even in that what with the Yakuza series already doing the awesome dad figure for over ten years).

Also, if they're REALLY going to do this whole Norse setting, they really should commit and

"The only major norse god we got to beat up was Baldur, who it seems never recovered from being in Too Human and became addicted to Meth."

Oh how long I waited for this bit of commentary. Thank you Yahtzee, you have made my day :D

Aiddon:

Worgen:
I still say got of war should have stopped being about Kratos and gone to being about some champion from another pantheon trying to kill his murderous ass. I would recommend Egypt and have the main character being about a champion of Sekhmet since shes awesome and doesn't get enough inclusion in anything.

That was definitely a lost opportunity. I maintain that God of War II shouldn't have been about Kratos, but instead his brother or another character who lost someone to Kratos, making a statement about the destructive cycle of revenge. Instead II and III became unintentional parody (though admittedly those problematic elements were in the series from the beginning and it's weird how Cory Barlog is the one who's taken Kratos in this new direction. Guess he grew up) and as such there was no deeper substance or us wanting to root for Kratos on some level or even be interested in him. Plus there is no shortage of good, tragic Norse characters to use as a Kratos analog like Arngrim, Sigurd, and Volsung. And it's not like GoW is unique with Norse mythology either what with Valkyrie Profile and Odin Sphere already having done their own interpretations of it (including deconstructing Odin).

A for GoW2018, Barlog recently did an interview talking about how his own growth spurred him to want to take Kratos in a new direction. Fine and good, though I would argue that switching Kratos to "yummy, hairy dad" is just another sort of wish fulfillment fantasy for men, specifically older audiences who might now have responsibilities as parents (making me wonder if said developers also all saw Lone Wolf and Cub at the same time somehow and also that they're late to the party even in that what with the Yakuza series already doing the awesome dad figure for over ten years).

Also, if they're REALLY going to do this whole Norse setting, they really should commit and

I had a big post all ready to go then decided fuck it. This sums up all the games till now. Plus I doubt Atreus will last long enough to be come Loki, as soon as he becomes a teenager and mouths of to Kratedad he will be killed by Kratedad then Kratedad will go on a rampage against.... lets say the Buddhist gods, blaming them for it.
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Goliath100:
Thank you Yahtzee, I needed a name for the Oscar bait of gaming: The hair dad game. Seriously, how do we have a handful of those,but no proper Guerrilla Warfare game?

You know this game has a spirit squirrel in it that shit-talks you as it gathers consumeables for you, right? Because it does. One of the lines is literally 'There you go, fucko.' This is the most lighthearted and goofy game in the series.

But then 'oscar bait' is the new easy sneer in gaming currently. Weird how this mentallity wasn't around when games like Silent Hill 2 and Ico and Shadow of the Colossus were getting praised.

First person I see critize this game & say it's boring, everyone praises it which makes me think they were paid by the developers. Well done Yahtzee! <3

Casual Shinji:
But then 'oscar bait' is the new easy sneer in gaming currently. Weird how this mentallity wasn't around when games like Silent Hill 2 and Ico and Shadow of the Colossus were getting praised.

It's almost like those games doesn't use a standard formula to invoke feels or something.

Goliath100:

Casual Shinji:
But then 'oscar bait' is the new easy sneer in gaming currently. Weird how this mentallity wasn't around when games like Silent Hill 2 and Ico and Shadow of the Colossus were getting praised.

It's almost like those games doesn't use a standard formula to invoke feels or something.

Are you serious? One is about a boy and a girl holding hands in an evil castle. The other is a boy doing something questionable to bring a loved one back to life. And the last one is about an emotionally distraught man looking for his dead wife. The formula is pretty straightforward in what it tries to evoke.

Worgen:

I had a big post all ready to go then decided fuck it. This sums up all the games till now. Plus I doubt Atreus will last long enough to be come Loki, as soon as he becomes a teenager and mouths of to Kratedad he will be killed by Kratedad then Kratedad will go on a rampage against.... lets say the Buddhist gods, blaming them for it.

I get the feeling Kratos wouldn't fare as well there because this is the first thing he would see:

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So to recap, Kratos is late to Norse mythology, late to the dad game, and late to the GOD dad game.

Sooooooo... let me get this straight. Kratos got himself locked into the service of Ares who then tricked him into murdering his family, then Kratos turned around and killed Ares in revenge and became the new God of War. However he was really bad at it so had to be taken down a peg, but ended up murdering all the Greek Gods. Now he's run away to Norse Mythology land and started a new family? Oh this is going to go real well.

Oh good, I'm not the only one who doesn't like these "yummy hairy dad" games.

Aiddon:

Worgen:

I had a big post all ready to go then decided fuck it. This sums up all the games till now. Plus I doubt Atreus will last long enough to be come Loki, as soon as he becomes a teenager and mouths of to Kratedad he will be killed by Kratedad then Kratedad will go on a rampage against.... lets say the Buddhist gods, blaming them for it.

I get the feeling Kratos wouldn't fare as well there because this is the first thing he would see:

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So to recap, Kratos is late to Norse mythology, late to the dad game, and late to the GOD dad game.

Too be fair Asura's Wrath is about as fun to play as watching paint dry.

Aiddon:

Worgen:

I had a big post all ready to go then decided fuck it. This sums up all the games till now. Plus I doubt Atreus will last long enough to be come Loki, as soon as he becomes a teenager and mouths of to Kratedad he will be killed by Kratedad then Kratedad will go on a rampage against.... lets say the Buddhist gods, blaming them for it.

I get the feeling Kratos wouldn't fare as well there because this is the first thing he would see:

image

So to recap, Kratos is late to Norse mythology, late to the dad game, and late to the GOD dad game.

As long as someone kills his ass.

Canadamus Prime:
Sooooooo... let me get this straight. Kratos got himself locked into the service of Ares who then tricked him into murdering his family, then Kratos turned around and killed Ares in revenge and became the new God of War. However he was really bad at it so had to be taken down a peg, but ended up murdering all the Greek Gods. Now he's run away to Norse Mythology land and started a new family? Oh this is going to go real well.

Actually he was a really good God of War to the point the other Greek Gods were telling him to calm the fuck down. Granted, the other gods denied him his attempt to kill himself and rejoin his family and more or less forced him to take up the title, so it's hard to feel bad for them here.

Gee, Zeus, you put just saw a complete sociopath kill the God of War. Instead of banishing this dude to the farthest reaches of the universe or just LETTING. HIM. OFF. HIMSELF. LIKE. HE. WANTED. OR. EVEN. TAKING. AWAY. HIS. NIGHTMARES. LIKE. HE. ASKED. FOR. you geniuses decide to make him a fucking god and then act totally shocked when he's not your fucking pet.

It's kind of the series biggest flaw. Kratos is a complete homicidal nutcase so you can't feel bad for him, but the Gods are dicks who enjoy fucking people over all the time so you can't really feel bad for those guys either. The only people who are sympathnic are the poor slubs who keep getting killed because they just happen to be in the way and it turns out pretty much all of them are doomed anyway because of Kratos deciding to wreck the universe by killing off all the gods.

Dalisclock:

Canadamus Prime:
Sooooooo... let me get this straight. Kratos got himself locked into the service of Ares who then tricked him into murdering his family, then Kratos turned around and killed Ares in revenge and became the new God of War. However he was really bad at it so had to be taken down a peg, but ended up murdering all the Greek Gods. Now he's run away to Norse Mythology land and started a new family? Oh this is going to go real well.

Actually he was a really good God of War to the point the other Greek Gods were telling him to calm the fuck down. Granted, the other gods denied him his attempt to kill himself and rejoin his family and more or less forced him to take up the title, so it's hard to feel bad for them here.

Gee, Zeus, you put just saw a complete sociopath kill the God of War. Instead of banishing this dude to the farthest reaches of the universe or just LETTING. HIM. OFF. HIMSELF. LIKE. HE. WANTED. OR. EVEN. TAKING. AWAY. HIS. NIGHTMARES. LIKE. HE. ASKED. FOR. you geniuses decide to make him a fucking god and then act totally shocked when he's not your fucking pet.

It's kind of the series biggest flaw. Kratos is a complete homicidal nutcase so you can't feel bad for him, but the Gods are dicks who enjoy fucking people over all the time so you can't really feel bad for those guys either. The only people who are sympathnic are the poor slubs who keep getting killed because they just happen to be in the way and it turns out pretty much all of them are doomed anyway because of Kratos deciding to wreck the universe by killing off all the gods.

Either way he killed his family, killed the entire Greek Pantheon, then ran away to start a new family.

I don't know how Yahtzee found old Kratos interesting, that bastard was just too much for me. The over the top violence just felt silly to me and I couldn't take Kratos seriously.

Interesting what Yahtzee said about the combat, he's the first reviewer I follow who doesn't like it.

Crafting? In my God of War?

Thanks for the tipoff. Probably won't get this now.

I'm also quite surprised at the route taken here. I assumed Kratos would begin as the protective father figure who wants to keep his son far, far away from anything deity-related and so spare Atreus the awful nightmares that will forever plague his father, becoming more and more agitated as the Norse Gods force their way into his life out of terror that the Godslayer is among them. Gradually, the father trying his very best to settle down and not murder anything for a month is replaced with the brutal psychotic we know from past experience is hiding beneath the surface, ready to make Odin wish he'd never strapped on his eye patch that morning.

But this makes it sound like he never does that, never stops trying to just be a dad. I also wish a God or other character would point out to him at some point that without his nightmares constantly driving him into new heights of rage, he wouldn't be a Godslayer.

WhiteFangofWhoa:
I'm also quite surprised at the route taken here. I assumed Kratos would begin as the protective father figure who wants to keep his son far, far away from anything deity-related and so spare Atreus the awful nightmares that will forever plague his father, becoming more and more agitated as the Norse Gods force their way into his life out of terror that the Godslayer is among them. Gradually, the father trying his very best to settle down and not murder anything for a month is replaced with the brutal psychotic we know from past experience is hiding beneath the surface, ready to make Odin wish he'd never strapped on his eye patch that morning.

But this makes it sound like he never does that, never stops trying to just be a dad. I also wish a God or other character would point out to him at some point that without his nightmares constantly driving him into new heights of rage, he wouldn't be a Godslayer.

The idea that Kratos never can, and never deserves to, find peace and redemption after all he's done apparently went out the window. I mean, it was only his most interesting character trait, the one that lead the first God of War to having one of the best endings in gaming history. I'm going to assume they brought in a new writer.

Casual Shinji:
Are you serious? One is about a boy and a girl holding hands in an evil castle. The other is a boy doing something questionable to bring a loved one back to life. And the last one is about an emotionally distraught man looking for his dead wife. The formula is pretty straightforward in what it tries to evoke.

Yes I am; they use story formulas, not the award formula that Hairy Dad Games do.

Goliath100:

Casual Shinji:
Are you serious? One is about a boy and a girl holding hands in an evil castle. The other is a boy doing something questionable to bring a loved one back to life. And the last one is about an emotionally distraught man looking for his dead wife. The formula is pretty straightforward in what it tries to evoke.

Yes I am; they use story formulas, not the award formula that Hairy Dad Games do.

Yeah, and they're all pretty standard, which you were arguing they weren't. All of them use a similar formula to evoke somekind of sad emotion, there's no difference. The only difference is current games are cheekily getting called out for it.

Glad I'm not the only one who misses Kratos' days of being a human blender permanently set to pur?e.

My biggest complaint with God of War is with the crafting. I'm not sure why every game feels the need to shove that crap in now-a-days. Just give me a power up for defeating a boss and let me on my way, dammit! I'd rather fight optional bosses that bolster the effect of my abilities upon defeat rather than collect some ridiculous items I can't remember the name of to upgrade a thing. I don't want to be sifting through runes to find the ones that provide the best defense against those obnoxious elves. Don't give me any "5% increase" or "Low chance" bullshit, either. Aside from that, I love the new God of War and I certainly like this Kratos over the scumbag he was before.

Still want him dead and I still want to be the one to kill him, though.

Bob_McMillan:
I don't know how Yahtzee found old Kratos interesting, that bastard was just too much for me. The over the top violence just felt silly to me and I couldn't take Kratos seriously.

Interesting what Yahtzee said about the combat, he's the first reviewer I follow who doesn't like it.

It's hypocritical on Yahtzee's part if you have seen his God of War III review. He more or less got tired and despised asking for anything to kill him. I think he needs to takeoff the nostalgia goggles.

SuperScrub:

Aiddon:

Worgen:

I had a big post all ready to go then decided fuck it. This sums up all the games till now. Plus I doubt Atreus will last long enough to be come Loki, as soon as he becomes a teenager and mouths of to Kratedad he will be killed by Kratedad then Kratedad will go on a rampage against.... lets say the Buddhist gods, blaming them for it.

I get the feeling Kratos wouldn't fare as well there because this is the first thing he would see:

image

So to recap, Kratos is late to Norse mythology, late to the dad game, and late to the GOD dad game.

Too be fair Asura's Wrath is about as fun to play as watching paint dry.

Says you! Asura's Wrath may not be the best gameplay, but nails it on the spectacle, characters, and story! The only thing wrong with it was, Capcom's really stupid idea to make the true ending DLC. Asura as a character is way more likeable, and actually relateable with or without comparison. Asura would kick the shit out of Kratos, no matter which version of the latter.

open world, crafting, resident evil 4 camera behind the ass where you can't turn around with the stick you need to press a button which would be better suited for a 3rd person shooter not this kind of game, slow ass uncomplex combat where all you need is to mash, dodge & block maybe, same troll boss fight copy-pasted like 5 times as area bosses.

yea this game is throw away at best.

The story at least did something different, it's good how the characters talk with each other. Thats it. Don't believe the hype, this game is just getting shilled by several PAID YouTubers. I'm guessing Yahtzee wasn't one of them or he just didn't care about shilling this game like the rest.

Well done, great video.

Strange, when I click on this to watch it I just get a dated advertisement video for a bunch of content that no longer exists on the website?!

3asytarg3t:
Strange, when I click on this to watch it I just get a dated advertisement video for a bunch of content that no longer exists on the website?!

Perhaps we've finally entered the end times...

Lazule:
Well done, great video.

You may want to look again.

3asytarg3t:
Strange, when I click on this to watch it I just get a dated advertisement video for a bunch of content that no longer exists on the website?!

The website has finally imploded from the looks of things.

 

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