You Can't Be the Hero If You're the Rapist

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Can we also assume that these games are for titilation? Which somehow in my eyes makes them worse.

Charli:
Even Hitler was a hero to 'somebody', at some point.

Thats pretty much it from me.

The concept of a hero is pretty subjective to most people when you get down to it, so it's hard to really define it. This topic is also pretty redundant, but hell I've posted in it.

Serial rapist could be a hero to some fucked up person, couldn't he?

But yeah to most people I'd imagine not, but the sentence 'you can't be the hero if you're the rapist' isn't entirely correct, 'you can't be an upstanding morally respected member of society if you're the rapist'? Oh absolutely.

On this note i feel i should point the powerful Greek hero Theseus (guy who killed the minotaur) was a notable rapist and he was of the great heroes of Greek myth.

Because violence is fun. Rape is not.

WrongSprite:

Cliff_m85:

WrongSprite:

MaxTheReaper:
Just responding to the question in the OP: Because murder can be justified.
See also: Dexter.

Rape can never serve a good purpose.

And now to read.

I give you GTA4. Is cutting down civilians justified? Then maybe they should both be banned.

Technically you aren't forced to cut down civilians.

Does it matter...? The possibility is there, and you know that a lot of people are going to do it.

Fallout 3
you get the choice, kill innocents or save innocents. it lets you see what each would be like.
anyways, i personally don't like the idea of rape games but hey if someone wants to play them, that is their choice.

Terminalchaos:
Good article Malygris. As Voltaire says: "I may not agree with you but I'll defend to the death your right to speak." Free speech trumps personal offense.

If you find rape games so offensive make a game where you hunt down and kill rapists.

That is one of my favorite quotes.
I don't like first person shooters either but i'm not going to demand a ban on them just for it.....i just won't play them. simple as that.

To me, Rape games shouldn't be made. Its just immoral and glorify rape to me. Now you going to say the same thing about Manhunt and possible GTA games, but I wouldn't count GTA games, since your given a choice to actually kill the people. But for manhunt, yeah, it might glorify gore/violence, but think about the whole story/setting of the game. (talking about the first Manhunt) If I remember right, you were frame for something, and given the death sentence, from there you are "killed" and the ship off to some rich guy playground so he can video type you for a TV Show.

To me, its part of the story, you defend yourself from the psychos that are trying to kill you. Yes, they might have taken the gore a bit to far, but still point is, that's the story of the game. Rape on the other hand, like said, can never be justified, so who ever says it can, is dead wrong. Another thing is, what about real rape victims? Don't they have a say in this? Of course you could counter and say what about murder victoms...but to counter this, most games your not the psycho killer, your the "hero". You killing people who are trying to kill you, or do harm to you or your loved ones. While in rape, your hurting people love ones and such.

Also the people who are afraid that if they ban this game, then they will ban more games, please grow up and use your head. They won't ban all games due to this one game. This game is very immoral , and should never have been made. Its not the fact that "no one gets hurt." its the fact that is glorify rape, and and goes against everything I hate about this world. I have tons of cousins that are girls, and I would kill the guy who would rape any one of them. Its worst the murder, its serves no point at all but to some sick person fantasies, which could lead to someone getting rape in real life.

Now if the "rape" is use in the story, and your not the one doing it, and it doesn't show the person getting rape, then fine...w/e...Idc much about that as it in the story, and your probably are going to make that son of a bitch pay for what he did. But like I said, as long as your not the one doing it, or you see it being down.

As for a final note, yes, guys can get rape to by woman. But its very unlikely, and most guys rape woman. So guys, use your brain, and think right. These games should never be made, and should be ban and the guys who made them should lose their jobs.

Now im done posting, so don't think I will post again if anyone reply to this comment.

Tenmar:

Malygris:
Rape, on the other hand, can ever be justified.

Just pointing out the typo.

Good article. Also a holocaust tycoon? Oh man I can't even imagine the amount of controvery.

Actually.....a game like that exists.

Terminalchaos:
Good article Malygris. As Voltaire says: "I may not agree with you but I'll defend to the death your right to speak." Free speech trumps personal offense.

If you find rape games so offensive make a game where you hunt down and kill rapists.

That would be f*cking awesome!!!
But i don't believe the game should have been banned i mean sure in some games murder is justified, is MadWorld going to be banned?

MaxTheReaper:

The infamous SCAMola:

Sometimes it can, as demonstrated by my dear friend Louis CK:

(I know, it's creeping me out too, I don't know how I can find all of this stuff that is pertinent to our discussion)

...Okay, fine, rape is acceptable if you're going back in time to rape Hitler.
But that's it.
[quote="wolfy098" post="6.116823.2193790"]

In The Twilight Zone 2002-2003 revival, there is an episode in which a character (played by Katherine Heigl) goes back in time to assassinate Adolf Hitler while he is a baby. She kills the baby (whom she presumes to be actual Adolf Hitler), but the nanny (discovering the death) replaces the baby with a street gypsy's baby, and she presents this baby to the father as his own. The father proceeds to introduce this son to his guests as "Adolf", presumably the Adolf Hitler known to history in the first place.

from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predestination_paradox

Raping Hitler would be what turned him evil.

This article makes a good point, really we should be proactively not buying these products so that these developers are forced into the acceptable market.

I dislike rape, but killing has a point.

Also, I disagree somewhat, I enjoy games where you kill people needlessly and are evil, but I dislike the idea of a rape game.

I have to ask...
Why would you WANT to play a game with which the premise is raping people?
To be honest I would care if this game came to North America.
Got branded an 'E' rating.
Had a huge promotional display and billboards outside Wal-Mart.
WE'VE GOT THE RAPE GAME!, they would say and I couldn't care less because -

Why would you spend $70 on a game to simulate raping someone when you could -
A.) Have sex with your girl/boy friend?
B.) Have sex with a hooker (Where I'm from that cost less than seventy dollars too.
and finally...
C.) Have a little dignity?

I personaly think rape is one of the worst things ever, but I'm not upset about this stupid game, Japan has many more like it, and even worse ones.
I can't believe what an uproar this news have caused. This game has actually been out for quite a few years, as evident in this site's 2007 review of the game.
http://www.somethingawful.com/d/hentai-game-reviews/rapelay.php)

Are we honestly surprised, has anyone seen Japanese porno? Men in japan are some of the most sexually oppressed and depraved men in a 1st world country, most of their fantasies revolve around getting women they can't have. Womens fashion style over there fluxuates between cyber punk barbie and schoolaged hooker, it's safe to say that of all the shit that goes on in the heads of the male population up there rape is the least mortifying. Not to generalize or be racist, I'm just rationalizing what must be the reason behind thinking that leads to a games like these. Am I wrong? Additionally, if they're raping women in a videogame does that encourage them to go out and rape real women or does it give them an alternative to it?

What's weird is for all this talk of rape and killing in GTA games, there's no discussion of killing *hookers* in GTA for half your money back after you've just engaged in an act of prostitution with them (that is how it works, right?)

It's kinda weird that all the people in this thread who are mortified by this game aren't saying more about how GTA glorifies the crime of murdering prostitutes after using them sexually.

Maybe it's a coincidence; maybe it's something more significant? Like maybe this horror at the idea of a rape game isn't so much a concern with women's rights as it is something else?

Cheeze_Pavilion:

It's kinda weird that all the people in this thread who are mortified by this game aren't saying more about how GTA glorifies the crime of murdering prostitutes after using them sexually.

I'm not sure it glorifies it.

Knight Templar:

Cheeze_Pavilion:

It's kinda weird that all the people in this thread who are mortified by this game aren't saying more about how GTA glorifies the crime of murdering prostitutes after using them sexually.

I'm not sure it glorifies it.

Even if it doesn't, what about rewarding players with health for engaging in an act of prostitution? Why isn't there concern with depicting the exploitation of women in that way? I mean, there might be an argument that prostitution isn't exploitation, but, I don't think you can make it on the back--no pun intended--of the prostitutes depicted in GTA.

Cheeze_Pavilion:

Knight Templar:

Cheeze_Pavilion:

It's kinda weird that all the people in this thread who are mortified by this game aren't saying more about how GTA glorifies the crime of murdering prostitutes after using them sexually.

I'm not sure it glorifies it.

Even if it doesn't, what about rewarding players with health for engaging in an act of prostitution? Why isn't there concern with depicting the exploitation of women in that way? I mean, there might be an argument that prostitution isn't exploitation, but, I don't think you can make it on the back--no pun intended--of the prostitutes depicted in GTA.

Hiring a prostitute won't heal a broken leg and neither should it in a videogame. Otherwise everyone either goes wtf? Or Fox news declares that games are persuading children to prostitution.
There is prositution in reality and GTA 4 is trying to be realistic so just like in real life, if hiring a prostitute doesn't make you happy in the pants - too bad.

hypothetical fact:

Cheeze_Pavilion:

Knight Templar:

Cheeze_Pavilion:

It's kinda weird that all the people in this thread who are mortified by this game aren't saying more about how GTA glorifies the crime of murdering prostitutes after using them sexually.

I'm not sure it glorifies it.

Even if it doesn't, what about rewarding players with health for engaging in an act of prostitution? Why isn't there concern with depicting the exploitation of women in that way? I mean, there might be an argument that prostitution isn't exploitation, but, I don't think you can make it on the back--no pun intended--of the prostitutes depicted in GTA.

Hiring a prostitute won't heal a broken leg and neither should it in a videogame. Otherwise everyone either goes wtf? Or Fox news declares that games are persuading children to prostitution.
There is prositution in reality and GTA 4 is trying to be realistic

Eh, no, GTA is trying to be *gritty*: there's a difference. GTA is no more realistic than something like, say, _The Shield_ on tv.

so just like in real life, if hiring a prostitute doesn't make you happy in the pants - too bad.

Okay, and there's rape in real life: is your response to people who have a problem with this game that 'if raping a woman doesn't make you happy in the pants - too bad' as well?

I'm not arguing one way or the other with these particular posts--I'm only pointing to a possible contradiction in the stance of those who see GTA differently from this game.

This thread destroys my faith in humanity. Only the people who want to play rape games should defend the concept of it. I find it quite bad that people compare rape to murder, rape and torture maybe, but not murder. Murder is quick and not long lasting, the effects of rape last forever, as with torture.

Hey everybody, look! Rationality won out in the end!

As long as it's only 20% rape, it's A-OK!

Keep in mind up until very recently women didn't have a say in marriage, being willing to rape your "property" (which is all women were in old europe) means an increased reproductive viability. Heck until recently in human history women were even treated as spoils of war, so it makes sense that the tendency towards rape would be so wide spread among our species.

I call for a new eugenics movement to place selective pressures favoring intelligence as well as group survivability, providing financial incentives towards the voluntary sterilization of anyone identified as carrying harmful traits, as well as providing financial incentives to encourage the voluntary reproduce of the intelligent in greater numbers. The desired means would be equitable and voluntary and the desired outcome would be a better brighter humanity.

*sigh*

On Contrast between Rape and Murder.

Rape is a sexual assault often driven largely by sexual lusts, and we evolved to reproduce more than we evolved to kill so nurturing the fetish for rape is prone to increase the probability of rape. Rape is a human right's violation and often induces severe life long post traumatic stress in the victims. The cover of the game in question actually shows what appears to be two horrified and powerless women, one holding the other protecting her with fear in her eyes. Is this the type of meme you want to allow and promote in our society? Also Rape is in general harmful to society, as half of society is made up of women and a large percentage are made up of minors all of which are potential victims and an alarmingly high number of which will actually be victims.

Not all murders are harmful to society nor are all murders completely unjustified. Murdering a serial rapist, pedophile, or serial killer can be beneficial to the rest of the community, and thus many legal systems have government sanctioned murder of such individuals in the form of executions.

Regardless, our tendency towards violence is different from our reproductive tendencies in that they can be controlled with an outlet and entertainment mediums involving violence rarely encourage real world violence. Some studies have actually suggested that increased desensitization towards violence decreases the probability that a person will react violently when impassioned, but I personally doubt their findings because I believe their methodology is flawed.

Valentine82:

Rape is a sexual assault often driven largely by sexual lusts, and we evolved to reproduce more than we evolved to kill so nurturing the fetish for rape is prone to increase the probability of rape.

Repetition doesn't make things more or less true. In other words, you keep saying this, but I'm going to continue to question its veracity without some sort of evidence beyond philosophical omphaloskepsis.

Rape is a human right's violation and often induces severe life long post traumatic stress in the victims.

I thought your stated goal was to differentiate rape and murder. Right to life is actually in article 3 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights; which article covers rape? I'm thinking maybe 4 or 5? And as to severe lifelong post-traumatic stress... murder causes death. I don't really want to get into the pointless debate held here over which is worse, but I will say this: they're both really bad if they happen to me, and I think I can sympathize with victims of either, and hope that any society I live in will not promote either.

The cover of the game in question actually shows what appears to be two horrified and powerless women, one holding the other protecting her with fear in her eyes. Is this the type of meme you want to allow and promote in our society?

I have yet to hear anyone suggest that their interest is in promoting rape as a part of our culture. What I want is to allow the freedom of expression of ideas through any medium that have not otherwise been proven actively deleterious of the group. So, to answer your question: NO, this is not the type of meme I want to allow AND promote in our society. It is the type of meme I think we should allow in our society.

Geoffrey42:
Hey everybody, look! Rationality won out in the end!

As long as it's only 20% rape, it's A-OK!

You're a bit late. It was posted about half a week before on the canned dogs blog.

Not sure if anyone here has actually played any "rape" game or if they're reacting like a bunch of sheep to buzzwords.

There are "dating simulation" games out there for those looking for sex in a game. But rape isn't about sex. It's about power. Rape is a form of abuse as well as torture. And why aren't there games out there about the main character being a rapist? Well, maybe because if any woman found out you bought such a thing, even out of curiosity, you wouldn't get within 10 feet of one again. Women won't trust someone who thinks that's in any way acceptable. (Feel free to ask some female friends.)

There is one from the other side of the coin though called "I Have No Mouth, But I Must Scream". That is a game based off a story where a intelligent computer went insane, nuked the world and has a small pool of humans it toys with by making them confront their worst nightmares over and over. It also won't let them die. That one has the horror and trauma of being a victim of rape as well as the fear of insanity, torture, and deep guilt and loss. And in that sense it is an emotionally wrenching art/sci-fi/horror game that really makes you think.

It's probably the only one that has used the elements in a successful fashion that does not promote rape but does explore it as an issue.

P.S. A man may have been able to rape his wife in the past as "property" but the women had countermeasures as well. One, the women would band together and support each other, the man would be ostracized by the women in the community. Two, a few extremely abysmal meals and ruined pieces of clothing, etc. would "encourage" a man to behave in a better fashion. Remember, they had to LIVE with the woman afterwards and the woman controlled the household. Many and varied are the implements of torture a woman in that situation could apply. And if you push a woman enough this is the kind of effect that you get:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Burning_Bed Domestic abuse includes sexual abuse and that means rape as well. Rapists aren't heroes.

Valentine82:

Not all murders are harmful to society nor are all murders completely unjustified. Murdering a serial rapist, pedophile, or serial killer can be beneficial to the rest of the community, and thus many legal systems have government sanctioned murder of such individuals in the form of executions.

Okay, but you also say:

Keep in mind up until very recently women didn't have a say in marriage, being willing to rape your "property" (which is all women were in old europe) means an increased reproductive viability. Heck until recently in human history women were even treated as spoils of war, so it makes sense that the tendency towards rape would be so wide spread among our species.

I call for a new eugenics movement to place selective pressures favoring intelligence as well as group survivability,

(1) If I'm more intelligent than a woman's husband, then isn't my act of raping her, as you described some illegal homicides, "beneficial to the rest of the community"?

(2) Do you realize how, well, evil your ideas are? I mean really: eugenics? We don't try and improve the science of genetics and reproduction for the benefit of the *group*: we try and improve it for the benefit of the *individuals* that are produced.

(3) why wouldn't violence be as widespread as rape? I mean, you yourself said:

Heck until recently in human history women were even treated as spoils of war, so it makes sense that the tendency towards rape would be so wide spread among our species.

Um, war is violent, right? So...how exactly do you wind up with the spoils of war without being willing to go to war?

Rape is a sexual assault often driven largely by sexual lusts, and we evolved to reproduce more than we evolved to kill so nurturing the fetish for rape is prone to increase the probability of rape.

You logic is invalid. At best, you could say that nurturing the fetish for rape is *more* prone--by the same factor that we are "evolved to reproduce more than we evolved to kill"--to increase the probability of rape than nurturing the fetish for murder is prone to increase it's probability.

Rape is a human right's violation and often induces severe life long post traumatic stress in the victims. The cover of the game in question actually shows what appears to be two horrified and powerless women, one holding the other protecting her with fear in her eyes. Is this the type of meme you want to allow and promote in our society?

According to that logic, the only sexual imagery we should allow in our society is that which corresponds to the power dynamic we want to see in society at large. Even missionary position sex would be an off-limits image under that logic.

I want to allow and promote the idea that the kind of sex you have doesn't determine how you act *outside of the bedroom*. What's so wrong with that?

Regardless, our tendency towards violence is different from our reproductive tendencies in that they can be controlled with an outlet and entertainment mediums involving violence rarely encourage real world violence.

Source? Even some sort of valid argument? Because this is just a bald assertion with nothing backing it up but your own disgust at the imagery of this game.

Some studies have actually suggested that increased desensitization towards violence decreases the probability that a person will react violently when impassioned, but I personally doubt their findings because I believe their methodology is flawed.

Okay--where's your study suggesting that increased desensitization towards rape increases the probability that a person will rape, even if you believe the methodology is flawed?

Geoffrey42:

Valentine82:

Rape is a sexual assault often driven largely by sexual lusts, and we evolved to reproduce more than we evolved to kill so nurturing the fetish for rape is prone to increase the probability of rape.

Repetition doesn't make things more or less true. In other words, you keep saying this, but I'm going to continue to question its veracity without some sort of evidence beyond philosophical omphaloskepsis.

What are you calling into question exactly? According to my psychology text book and everything I've learned about sexual fetishes thus far. Granted this isn't a focal point of my studies, but I've also seen experts on the Research Channel and the Science Channel. According to everything I've learned sexual fetishes get stronger when nurtured, they don't get weaker. Most of the time the more a sexual fetish is nurtured the more an individual will desire to act it out.

Geoffrey42:

Rape is a human right's violation and often induces severe life long post traumatic stress in the victims.

I thought your stated goal was to differentiate rape and murder. Right to life is actually in article 3 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights; which article covers rape? I'm thinking maybe 4 or 5?

That right to life can be made forfeit by one's actions. If I brandish a gun at you and threaten to kill you, my right to life is ceded by my actions. Most nations carry the death penelty and most nations engage in war, but most do not abide rape. Maybe we're getting hung up on the term murder.

I consider any killing in which the victim does not consent to death and the methods if death to be murder, whatever legal terms we attach to it to make ourselves feel better aside. I also consider some murders to be both necessary and justified. We don't live in a world where we can just do whatever we want, we have to co-exist with other human beings, and when one human is going around raping and killing (BTK Killer for instance) then it's for the good of society that such an individual is removed from society.

Geoffrey42:
And as to severe lifelong post-traumatic stress... murder causes death.

In some cases death is preferable to such trauma by the victim, and many rape victims commit suicide as a result.

Geoffrey42:
I don't really want to get into the pointless debate held here over which is worse, but I will say this: they're both really bad if they happen to me, and I think I can sympathize with victims of either, and hope that any society I live in will not promote either.

Likewise ;)

Geoffrey42:

The cover of the game in question actually shows what appears to be two horrified and powerless women, one holding the other protecting her with fear in her eyes. Is this the type of meme you want to allow and promote in our society?

I have yet to hear anyone suggest that their interest is in promoting rape as a part of our culture. What I want is to allow the freedom of expression of ideas through any medium

Hold on for a moment. Does that include a pornographic pedophilia simulator? If instead of two frightened women on the cover of the game there were a scared little boy holding a scared little girl would you still be defending this abomination? If not why not? If so, do you really think it's a good idea to put a pedophilia simulator in the hands of potential pedophiles and titillate their lusts?

Geoffrey42:
that have not otherwise been proven actively deleterious of the group. So, to answer your question: NO, this is not the type of meme I want to allow AND promote in our society. It is the type of meme I think we should allow in our society.

You really think we should allow the distribution of interactive pornography that titillates the fantasies and lusts of potential rapist? Do you also think we should allow games center on the abduction and rape of four year old girls? Surly you can see how it would be a bad idea to titillate the lusts and fantasies of potential pedophiles, especially those already genetically predisposed to pedophilia. Well, there are people genetically predisposed to rape as well, and the only difference here is the age of the victims.

maybe because it's not real

Valentine82:

Geoffrey42:

Valentine82:

Rape is a sexual assault often driven largely by sexual lusts, and we evolved to reproduce more than we evolved to kill so nurturing the fetish for rape is prone to increase the probability of rape.

Repetition doesn't make things more or less true. In other words, you keep saying this, but I'm going to continue to question its veracity without some sort of evidence beyond philosophical omphaloskepsis.

What are you calling into question exactly? According to my psychology text book and everything I've learned about sexual fetishes thus far. Granted this isn't a focal point of my studies, but I've also seen experts on the Research Channel and the Science Channel. According to everything I've learned sexual fetishes get stronger when nurtured, they don't get weaker. Most of the time the more a sexual fetish is nurtured the more an individual will desire to act it out.

Leaving aside your use of the word fetish, why do you keep talking about the fetish for fictional rape as if it were the same thing as a fetish for rape?

Geoffrey42:

I have yet to hear anyone suggest that their interest is in promoting rape as a part of our culture. What I want is to allow the freedom of expression of ideas through any medium

Hold it right there. Does that include a pornographic pedophilia simulator? If instead of two frightened women on the cover of the game there were a scared boy holding a scared little girl would you still be defending this abomination? If not why not? If so, do you really think it's a good idea to put a pedophilia simulator in the hands of potential pedophiles and titillate their lusts?

You really think we should allow the distribution of interactive pornography that titillates the fantasies and lusts of potential rapist?

Again--where are you getting the idea that only rapists are into rape fantasies? Plenty of *women* are into rape fantasies!

I mean, where's the study connecting rapists and people using rape fantasy porn? Where's any evidence of this besides you confusing a person having a fetish for *rape fantasy* with a person having a psychological disposition to commit rape?

Valentine82:

Hold on for a moment. Does that include a pornographic pedophilia simulator? If instead of two frightened women on the cover of the game there were a scared little boy holding a scared little girl would you still be defending this abomination?

The Supreme Court did.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashcroft_v._Free_Speech_Coalition

Thomas Covenant anyone?

Valentine82:

What are you calling into question exactly? According to my psychology text book and everything I've learned about sexual fetishes thus far. Granted this isn't a focal point of my studies, but I've also seen experts on the Research Channel and the Science Channel. According to everything I've learned sexual fetishes get stronger when nurtured, they don't get weaker. Most of the time the more a sexual fetish is nurtured the more an individual will desire to act it out.

I take issue with largely the same things Cheeze_Pavilion does, though he makes this point better. You are blurring the sexual fetish for rape (which can be acted out consensually) and the tendency of individuals to rape. You're pulling together factual tidbits (such as that nurturing fetishes makes them stronger) and adding them to speculative tidbits (such as that there is a direct correlation between rape fetish and rape crime), then making a causative claim where you don't even have evidence of correlation.

Hold on for a moment. Does that include a pornographic pedophilia simulator? If instead of two frightened women on the cover of the game there were a scared little boy holding a scared little girl would you still be defending this abomination? If not why not? If so, do you really think it's a good idea to put a pedophilia simulator in the hands of potential pedophiles and titillate their lusts?

I would defend it just the same. The question is not whether it appeals to or repels against my personal sensibilities, the question is of censorship, and when censorship is justifiable.

You really think we should allow the distribution of interactive pornography that titillates the fantasies and lusts of potential rapist? Do you also think we should allow games center on the abduction and rape of four year old girls? Surly you can see how it would be a bad idea to titillate the lusts and fantasies of potential pedophiles, especially those already genetically predisposed to pedophilia. Well, there are people genetically predisposed to rape as well, and the only difference here is the age of the victims.

Yes, and yes, and surely I can't, or I wouldn't be on the side of the argument that I am.

Well I agree, they are horrible evil things, and like the guy said in the article, sometimes violence is the answer, but rape? never.

Well I agree, they are horrible evil things, and like the guy said in the article, sometimes violence is the answer, but rape? never.

Surely that depends what the question is?

I mean, if the question is: "What name is commonly given to the act of forcing someone to have sex with you?"

Then "rape" is most certainly the only answer?

This is still going....... YAWNY YAWNY YAWN

What if there was this girl with an alien parasite that could only transfer through intercourse but had also taken over her brain and was forcing her to resist?
Just thinking outside of the box.

The box is there for a reason...

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