Escape to the Movies: Transformers Revenge

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LaBambaMan:
Something I don't understand, as a critic myself, is why every critic in the whole f*cking world seemed to be going in to this movie expecting it to be the next f*cking Schindler's List? It's a f*cking Michael Bay movie, it's an action movie, for f*cks sake it's just a god damned movie about giant robots blowing shit up.

People complained that the firzt had too much humans, not enough robots. So they put in more robots and had them interact with the humans. You got your f*cking wish, shut the f*ck up.

Did you like the first movie? If you answered NO to this question then here's a simple fix: DON'T SEE THE SECOND ONE YOU STUPID B*STARDS. Is it that hard to understand. Jesus f*ck, I didn't like the first Saw movie so made it a point to avoid the rest of the series(all 38 BILLION of them) like it was a rat with the f*cking Black Death.

And if you're honestly going to complain about racism then you're just reaching for an argument for the sake of argument.

I definitely agree (sans all the "f*cks"). I never watch a movie without some background. "Oh, it's an action movie? About giant alien robots that turn into vehicles? And it's directed by Michael Bay? M'kay." I wasn't expecting a love story comparable to Titanic, or a complex plot that could rival Watchmen's (the comic); I was expecting giant robots, big explosions, the obligatory half-baked plot (which, as far as action movies go, wasn't that bad; IMO, better than the new fricking Terminator movie's plot), big explosions, American ultra-patriotism, sweet cars, and blowing shit up. And that's what I got, and a little more. So I was satisfied.

As a side note, I always like to get some background for movies, but you should NEVER get sucked into the hype for video games, because it can potentially ruin the game for you (at least, in my experience).

scifidownbeat:
I definitely agree (sans all the "f*cks"). I never watch a movie without some background. "Oh, it's an action movie? About giant alien robots that turn into vehicles? And it's directed by Michael Bay? M'kay." I wasn't expecting a love story comparable to Titanic, or a complex plot that could rival Watchmen's (the comic); I was expecting giant robots, big explosions, the obligatory half-baked plot (which, as far as action movies go, wasn't that bad; IMO, better than the new fricking Terminator movie's plot), big explosions, American ultra-patriotism, sweet cars, and blowing shit up. And that's what I got, and a little more. So I was satisfied.

As a side note, I always like to get some background for movies, but you should NEVER get sucked into the hype for video games, because it can potentially ruin the game for you (at least, in my experience).

I'm glad somebody does. And sorry for all the f-bombs there. This sorta' thing gets me riled as a critic.

I plan to see G.I. Joe, and I planned to be entertained. I don't expect it to blow me away and make me reconsider my list of favorite movies, but to just be a silly action movie with Scarlett, the Baroness, and lots of exploding bits.

LaBambaMan:
Something I don't understand, as a critic myself, is why every critic in the whole fucking world seemed to be going in to this movie expecting it to be the next fucking Schindler's List? It's a fucking Michael Bay movie, it's an action movie, for fucks sake it's just a god damned movie about giant robots blowing shit up.

People complained that the first had too much humans, not enough robots. So they put in more robots and had them interact with the humans. You got your fucking wish, shut the fuck up.

Did you like the first movie? If you answered NO to this question then here's a simple fix: DON'T SEE THE SECOND ONE YOU STUPID BASTARDS. Is it that hard to understand. Jesus fuck, I didn't like the first Saw movie so made it a point to avoid the rest of the series(all 38 BILLION of them) like it was a rat with the fucking Black Death.

And if you're honestly going to complain about racism then you're just reaching for an argument for the sake of argument.

I'd bet that Saw wasn't based on a series and characters that was a beloved and possibly influential part of your childhood, so your analogy doesn't hold up very well. The issue isn't that it's just another shitty movie, it's that it's a shitty TRANSFORMERS movie. They let Michael Bay pump out another POS instead of letting someone else make something actually worth watching. How are you not picking up on that aspect of the anger?
Imagine if they'd given the Lord of the Rings movies to someone that had as little respect for the source material as Bay clearly does for the Transformers.
Saying "oh you don't like it, don't watch it" doesn't work, because those of us that grew up with the Transformers, and loved them as kids, WANT to see Transformers movies being made. Unfortunately, we also want those movies to actually be good as well.

Skutch:

LaBambaMan:
Something I don't understand, as a critic myself, is why every critic in the whole fucking world seemed to be going in to this movie expecting it to be the next fucking Schindler's List? It's a fucking Michael Bay movie, it's an action movie, for fucks sake it's just a god damned movie about giant robots blowing shit up.

People complained that the first had too much humans, not enough robots. So they put in more robots and had them interact with the humans. You got your fucking wish, shut the fuck up.

Did you like the first movie? If you answered NO to this question then here's a simple fix: DON'T SEE THE SECOND ONE YOU STUPID BASTARDS. Is it that hard to understand. Jesus fuck, I didn't like the first Saw movie so made it a point to avoid the rest of the series(all 38 BILLION of them) like it was a rat with the fucking Black Death.

And if you're honestly going to complain about racism then you're just reaching for an argument for the sake of argument.

I'd bet that Saw wasn't based on a series and characters that was a beloved and possibly influential part of your childhood, so your analogy doesn't hold up very well. The issue isn't that it's just another shitty movie, it's that it's a shitty TRANSFORMERS movie. They let Michael Bay pump out another POS instead of letting someone else make something actually worth watching. How are you not picking up on that aspect of the anger?
Imagine if they'd given the Lord of the Rings movies to someone that had as little respect for the source material as Bay clearly does for the Transformers.
Saying "oh you don't like it, don't watch it" doesn't work, because those of us that grew up with the Transformers, and loved them as kids, WANT to see Transformers movies being made. Unfortunately, we also want those movies to actually be good as well.

I did grow up with Transformers, just so you know.

And does my analogy mean any less because of the source? If you saw the first Transformers movie and didn't enjoy it then why in the world would you pay the ridiculous price of a movie ticket to go see the second one?

I enjoy the films for what they are, fun summer action movies. Sure they do miss a lot of points and some of the actual Transformers aren't fleshed out as much, but calling out Michael Bay like he's a fucking anti-christ(or the Fallen) is just silly. The original animated movie from '86 was able to skip past character development because it had 2 whole seasons of the show behind it that got all that shit out of the way.

Like i've said, the movies have their flaws. I won't argue with you and say these are the greatest works of cinema, because they aren't. But when you start trying to look in to them as anything more than what they're supposed to be, which is summer action movie, then you're just going to be miserable. I can't wrap my head around the pure amount of hate for these films like the kicked your dog and raped your mother or something.

And for future reference, the "if you don't like it, don't watch it" motto applies to this and every other film series ever made.

I totally agree this movie sucked!!! The only "good" transformer fight scene is where Optimus fights and dies. Everything else is just pathetic story writing. I mean the two most powerful decepticons die before they can so much as throw a punch. Michael Bay is a terrible director EXCEPT for "The Island" because it had a STORY. THANK YOU, BOB!!!

LaBambaMan:
Something I don't understand, as a critic myself, is why every critic in the whole fucking world seemed to be going in to this movie expecting it to be the next fucking Schindler's List? It's a fucking Michael Bay movie, it's an action movie, for fucks sake it's just a god damned movie about giant robots blowing shit up.

People complained that the first had too much humans, not enough robots. So they put in more robots and had them interact with the humans. You got your fucking wish, shut the fuck up.

Did you like the first movie? If you answered NO to this question then here's a simple fix: DON'T SEE THE SECOND ONE YOU STUPID BASTARDS. Is it that hard to understand. Jesus fuck, I didn't like the first Saw movie so made it a point to avoid the rest of the series(all 38 BILLION of them) like it was a rat with the fucking Black Death.

And if you're honestly going to complain about racism then you're just reaching for an argument for the sake of argument.

I have a question, why is it that every time a movie is being bashed, somebody says the critics were,"Expecting the next Godfather, Citizen Kane, Casablanca, blah blah blah."?

First of all: How do YOU know what they were expecting? If it's their way of reviewing, what do you care?

Second of all: Do you not realize how fun it is to hate a movie that you despise with every fiber of your being? Or how even MORE fun it is to discuss with a friend/sibling, who also hates that movie, about how bad it is? Trust me. Gather your friends, rent Troll 2, you'll have the time of your life.

Third of all: Sure there were more robots, but we didn't even know who any of them were. If it were all robots with little to no humans and the robots were given names and unique and/or distinctive personalities, it wouldn't be a problem.

Fourth of all: The entire last hour of the movie was nothing but the world's most unappealing robot designs fighting other world's most unappealing robot designs backed up by the U.S. Army in the desert with a cinematographer who has a case of the Looney Tunes and just finished his 100th cup of coffee with extra caffeine. How can ANYONE defend that?

It was a horrible film with unlikeable characters. It doesn't help that Michelle Bay jerks off to (well I can't think of the title but it was a magazine featuring modern military technology) Seriously the vast majority of any fight scene in this movie was just stock footage and tanks and bombers with the transformers superimposed in the background. Although my favorite was a shot of a bomber that was clearly flying over New Mexico. It was supposed to have been dropping bombs on Egypt so I of course had quite a chuckle at the only funny point in the film.

You'd think someone as explosion based as Micky Bay could do a fucking alien robot movie right...

Here is To all of you screaming its just hate to hate or FANBOY GO CRY TO YOUR G1 FIGURES. If it wasn't for us fanboys and girls respectively you wouldn't get to see the crappy acting you so desperately crave. Look we are the people that know Devastator couldn't be taken out with any human weapon as a matter of fact no Transformer can. This movie may have been entertaining to you but it was like being kicked in the balls for the rest of us. In Fanboy Conclusion, Devastator without Omega Supreme just shows the current writers of the series are twats.

Look we that are angry didn't want a thought invoking experience all we wanted was our original favorites to be portrayed correctly. I grew up with this series and still watch the original along with many of its newly made versions. What I am the most angry about is the fact that I like Optimus Primal (Beast Wars for those who don't know) more than the movie version of a character I literally cried when he died in the original source material (Optimus Prime.) Did I think I was going to see the next Godfather or Schindler's List, no, but i wanted the characters I care about to be Featured in a way that I would care that they were harmed or had died and i didn't get that with Jazz, Bumblebee or Optimus.

the movie sucks ass. absolute disaster. if you like robots and awesome battles with sweet looking effects... there is 10 min of that. better off watching some Mech game trailers on YouTube. if you are an undeveloped pube-face teenager, here: http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/9321/meganfoxtopless1042.jpg
now you don't need to waste $20 of you parents' hard earned cash.

Thank you MovieBob. Unfortunatly there is no answer as to why theres human characters in these movies

Well......er....watched the review and read the first notes when it came out, decided to hold off for a matinee in the future....finally saw the film, but apparently someone slipped a different movie in, because the one I saw was some fun Summer entertainment that provided about the same level of enjoyment I got out of the franchise as a kid, but with much better graphics than the old cartoons and comics. Nerdrage about this movie is saying a lot more about the angered soul who is offended as this movie and the interesting level of reverence they have applied to the Transformers franchise than it is about this movie, which is frankly about as good as one shoudl expect for a film based on a fun toy franchise. And yes, I was a fan, and owned a couple hundred figures between 1984-1989, loved the comics, know who Simon Furman is, and I thought the first film was actually not as good as this one. Great B movie, and people need to refocus their anger on something more relevant before the dark side takes them....

Okay.... I've read two pages of this thread and watched the review and I am confident that it would be pointless to attempt to read the rest. It will be either "I'm not going to watch the movie", "I hate the movie", "I hate Micheal Bay", or "What are you people talking about?"

First of all, for all you people out their relying on the 5 minute rant about why Micheal Bay sucks that MovieBob made... go see the movie. If you haven't seen the first one, rent it, pirate it, buy it, or watch it on YouTube (everything is on youtube now adays.... everything). Ignore what MovieBob said about Micheal Bay and judge the movie on its own marits (not because Micheal Bay made the movie). Make your own opinions on the movie.

For those of you that need an opinion on Revenge of the Fallen... heres my review of the review.

Besides the one points about how the two characters where huge stereo types, the review wasn't so much on the movie itself (there were some references, but personally when a giant sand sucking robot comes onto the screen I'm paying attention to its face which is sucking up the sand, and not the things crotch). It seemed more like the review of Micheal Bay... which really isn't fair to the movie. Okay you hate Micheal Bay... and granted other critics refer to him as Micheal "Kaboom" Bay but because he made the movie doesn't automatically make it bad. Good directors can make bad movies... but the same holds true for bad dirrectors. As for the complaints I have read and how the focus of the movie was on the humans and not the robots. This is not a remake of the original series. In fact, there have been many takes on Transeformers and none of them follow the original series to the leter. Beast wars happens to be a personal favourite (though season three got real corny) but when they showed the original transformers the way they were... even the matrix of leadership was a let down. The new medium means that the short cuts taken by the original writers would look HORRIBLE on screen. Having worked with 3D animation myself I can tell you that the amount of work that just one transformer took was astronical. Optimus Prime has 10000 peices in his model that have the be rigged and manipulated... and that isn't taking into acount any damage he takes in a fight. As for the Decepticons being held off by tanks.... Allow me to put this into perspective for you. The main gun on the tank is 150mm (or 5" for those still using imperial measurements). The anti tank round is a 30cm (12") long dart fired at high velocity. While the robots would be killed.... it would (and did) stop him in his tracks. Even knock him over just from the kenetic force. If the humans were really a threat to the decepticons they wouldn't have dirrected most of their fire at the Autobots (cause there is always more humans)or try to kill the kid with the matrix of leadership.

Speculation aside, I really don't care about things like "does it follow the original" or "Its not realistic" when I go see a movie (unless its a movie with actual history behind it... say like Saving Private Ryan). I care if its got a story line I can follow with a plot deeper then "COOOOOOBRAAAA".

The next movie I really want to see is the conituation of the Battletech story line following the adventures of the 1st Summerset Strikers against that nut ball Nikoli Malfus.

[quote="weirdaljedifan2" post="6.121336.2661980Fourth of all: The entire last hour of the movie was nothing but the world's most unappealing robot designs fighting other world's most unappealing robot designs backed up by the U.S. Army in the desert with a cinematographer who has a case of the Looney Tunes and just finished his 100th cup of coffee with extra caffeine. How can ANYONE defend that?[/quote]

Actually, when a dirrector wants to use the US army the dirrector has to put the US army in a possitive light. If it puts the US army in a negative light then they can't use the footage. Its not that they are defending that.... its that they are simply ignoring a fact of reality. In a movie that has the US army, the US army is going to win and be the good guys. Its not like they could just BUY their own tanks, MLRS, choppers and then shoot their own movie.... its a little beyond the budget of a movie spending millions on 3D graphics and quite frankly blending the robots into the film so it looks as real as possible is a difficult task as it is. The cheaper and more time effecient thing to do is ask the US army to be extras in the movie and get them to do what they do best (and thats play war... even though Canadian infantry would be better :P). Not to mention most Americans tend to bleed red, white and blue.

It did bug me a little that the American army was portrayed as a crack fighting force (there is an evaluation of the worlds military using the US infantry as a base which rated the Royal Canadian mounted Police as a more effective fighting force then the US army... never mind the Canadian army itself... as tiny as it is) but I chose to ignore that point and enjoy the movie. While I can point out many flaws in the movie... it would just lessen my enjoyment of it in the future.

dude, chill the fuck out, from the way you tore into this movie youd think it raped your goddamn cat or something. You dont go to a goddamn movie about giant fucking robots expecting a riveting story, you go expecting giant robots beating the shit out of each other. and after you defended shit like GI Joe specifically FOR being campy and fun, you honestly cant find a single ounce of enjoyment out of this movie? Jesus christ.

excellent point

This movie was pretty bad, even Michael Bay managed to completely ruin Devastator

There are tons movies way worse than this that are more fun to bash. I'll never understand why all the critics in the world hate this movie, but when i ask random people on the street most of them they say it was awesome. It is awesome, what it is, is a fun time at the theater. Its an action movie! Its not dark knight, its not godfather, or anything of that sort, and on its own its pretty dam good. I've seen every transformers cartoon but I'm not going to fanboy this one up, or any other cartoon into live action movie. So for all you saying that its bad who haven't seen it, and taking this jackass' word for it get over yourself and watch it. For those of you who did see it and said it was bad stop whining about a story-line that wasn't even that deep in the cartoon. Whining about The Fallen is as good as complaining why doc-ock was in spidey 2. The cartoon was robots blasting each other and so is this movie, but with some good humor added in and if you think its racist you've never watched comedy central for a laugh.

Cousin_IT:
Wasnt going to see this film, but is nice to have my own conviction renforced in such a...explicit manner :D

That's exactly how I feel, mate

I FUCKING HATED THIS MOVIE, seriously, I'de never saw a transformers cartoon, saw this thinking it was a good way to kill a while but it was fucking shit, the "humor" is if some 5 year old made an adult comedy "i.e" swearing with dick jokes to make it funny, this may soung like I'm highbrow but THIS IS A FUCKING ACTION MOVIE, NOT A COMEDY, btw I never notcied devastators balls, the thought makes me cringe, micheal bay, I fucking hate you

OK Movie Bob I know you hate Michael bay, but you don't need to make things up, the only thing wrong with the action is that the cameraman was on red bull, also yes The whole bit with Sam and Michaela is annoying oh and Megan fox was kinda useless, but the robots are most of the action and as for the Military, well what do you think the U.S.A. would do if something weird was going on, sit around with their thumbs up their ass?
the robot design, while somewhat ugly is OK, except for the Fallen who really was an eyesore but I still think The movie was good, also in the series, Optimus can link up with other robots, so using that in the movie was pretty awesome.

On IMDB, Bay is listed as having the following movies in production (pre and post) or development:

Nightmare on Elm Street (Oh please for the love of God NO!!!!!)
A sequel to Friday the 13th (duh)
The 3rd Transformers movie (double duh)
2012: The War for Souls (suckling the end o' the world teet)

and the worst thing in the world...

The Birds (Alfred Hitchcocks The Birds...why oh why would anyone take a movie that cannot be improved upon and try and remake it).

To be fair, the scene in the first Transformers where the Decepticon was rocket rollerblading through buses on the highway was pretty awesome, but then he was killed by the mighty sword of Optimus. Did Optimus ever have a sword?

according to the average idiot special fx and big shiny colorful things are MUCH GREATER than a half decent story the fans are idiots that's why the only thing people defend the movie with is "but duuuuude its got to b da best mooooovie eeever cos it has Megan Fox and she is a semi-attractive female which beats any other good movie trait"

go watch it and see what i mean

holy crap is Bob ever bitter aboot that movie! CURSE YOU MICHAL BAY! and i have never heard doucebag being said more times in 4 minutes than in this review. *claps*

Glad I wasn't the only one who got a racist vibe from those twin bots.

your taste in movies bob is shit this was a kick ass movie!

I've seen every transformers tv show (G1 to Animated). I even owned some of the toys when I was young.

That said, I found this film to be god-awful. While I do enjoy some crude humor (Beast Wars was packed with it) this movie takes it to a juvenile and obnoxious high. The 'final' battle scene was nothing but tanks and planes shooting at nothing. The forest fight scene was incredibly obscured, with the camera often passing in front of trees for absolutely no reason. I like Shia LaBeouf, he reminds me of a young Will Smith, but he needs to be in the background of the transformer plot not the other way around, not to mention that this film does him no justice (and vice versa).

2 hours of this film wastes your time with shitty, cliche comedy, cliche romance and worst of all, cliche throwaway human characters.

Those who suffered the worst in this film? The transformers themselves.

Optimus Prime: You know who he is, a defender of justice and a fair, compassionate, stern leader. Bay turned him into a VERY bad (and yet again, cliche) action movie hero archetype who spends 80% of the film dead and 19.5% of it spouting stupid one-liners like "Pull over" and "I'll take you all on". (the.5% is for is very short graveyard scene)

Arcee (twins): A worm on a unicycle (If it had been a movie adaptation of the vehicon thrust, I would have understood the design) who says one line before getting shot, 'nuff said.

The Fallen: So much potential wasted, he's nothing more than a Darth Sidius ripoff.

Megatron: Who play's second banana to no one (unless forced) becomes a mindless, bumbling, idiot, lackey (the exact opposite of what he should be.) and A Darth Vader ripoff

I don't want to waste time talking about the other ones, they we're all in the background anyway.

Also, I've noticed that internet morons keep defending certain aspects of this film with the same damn arguments.

#1 It was based on a toy commercial: Moviebob handled this one.

#2 If you saw anything racially offensive in Skids and Mudflap, then you're the racist: So if I see or notice and example of someone using racial stereotypes in an exceptionally offensive manner, then that makes me the a racist? Oh Wow....

#3 What were you expecting? (then proceeds to make references to movies or books such as Shakespeare and Shawshank Redemtion): Of course not. I was expecting a movie about transformers with a condensed, 3 stage plot and perhaps some GENUINE emotional scenes. In other words, I was expecting at the very least an Iron Man, and at the very most a Watchmen or Spider-Man. Because if someone can make a good film about a nerdy high school/college student who becomes bitten by a radioactive spider, then proceeds to dress up in a spider patterned leotard and fight against various villains, both human and superhuman, then I certainly can see a good film about a war between alien robots from a metallic machine planet who bring their war to earth.

Samoftherocks:
Did Optimus ever have a sword?

I believe he had an energy axe in G1, he had dual swords in Beast Wars and in Animated he had a poleaxe.

The movie was pretty lame. But it had such potential. The movie starts with Optimus Prime getting airdropped from 5,000 feet onto a crowded Shanghai freeway. Which was pretty friggin awesome.

Too bad it all goes downhill from there

I agree with some of the problems Movie Bob said about the first one. Overall I enjoyed the first one though. Did I wish for better, sure, but I did enjoy it.

I absolutley agree with what he said about the second. In fact I say I hate the second even more than Bob.

To just look at MFox, yup she is sexy. We all know it. Even chicks that pretend to be mad at their boyfriends for thinking she is hot understand why they think so. At least til she opens her mouth...for dialogue. I saw her in a Simon Pegg movie called "How to Lose Friends & Alienate People." She did a good job. But that was because her natural mannerisms fit her character. No acting was involved. Just reading cue cards. If you see the movie you will understand.

Don't get me wrong. I'm sure she is a great personal real life individual to get to know. Indeed in interviews she seems to have some brass ovaries. I can respect that. Aside from the hotness, I would date her for those interviewed brass ovaries. But so far on screen I haven't seen anything from her that I could call myself a fan of hers for. She either needs to take some acting and diction lessons or just go into straight porn for her to be a draw for me on film.

If you go to a horror slasher flick you expect to see boobie or at least a suggestive female body. TF2, the whole opening motorcycle scene was absolutly useless and gratuitous. She was painting a decal while basically humping the bike. As much as I like the female form it was useless and so was the orange robot coed. Both very pretty/sexy, but ruined by Bay.

TF2 was a complete dissapointment for me. Total junk. I hated it and felt like if I called the cops on it somebody should have gone to jail for stealing my money and time. It is my pick for the worst movie of 2009 I have seen. I see a lot of movies. Big movie fan.

Michael Bay deserves all the derision he gets, including from Fox. If I never see a movie from him again I will eventually die a happy man.

MFox, please take some lessons and expand your talent. Do a role that does not rely on your looks. Maybye something with zombie makeup where nobody can tell who you are or your physical hotness. If people like the role, you will go far.

BTW, I saw Zombieland today. Emma Stone; she has been amazing in all roles I have seen her in. Superbad, House Bunny, and Zombieland. She is truely a talented actress with her craft. She is also hot, but being able to actually...act makes her lovely.

Sorry for the necro.

Why do people keep going for the douchebag argument that it's based on toy commercials. Come up with a reasonable argument why you think it's good. Don't just keep saying that a movie isn't bad because "it's no Godfather". That's a stupid ass argument.t

The script is badly written, the acting is horrible, the dialogue is bad, there are lots of plot holes, The action scenes are incoherent and you can't understand what's going on, and the human characters are bland and boring.

I orginally thought this woundn't be that bad... I bled tears of blood that night... (Why do my friends like these movies?!)

BenzSmoke:
I orginally thought this woundn't be that bad... I bled tears of blood that night... (Why do my friends like these movies?!)

...Because they're douchebags?

Either way, I feel bad because even though this is an obviously bad movie, it made 800 million dollars... So yeah, we kind of WERE defeated, in a sense.

And here I was thinking that I was the only one who thought Fox was a hack. I grew to dispise her when she started doing the whole "I'm a rebel and I won't be pigeonholed, because I'm unique and nobody is going to tell me what to do because I'm confident but have enough issues to seem approachable and sexy all at the same time" so the "cool" guys will want to screw her attitude. I saw it for the hypocritical bullshit it turned out to be when the tattoos she so vehemently told would never get covered for a role, haven't been seen in a role since said interview. Oh and btw, unique is not a word I would use to describe someone who goes out of their way to dye their hair and eyebrows, plump up their lips with collagen of some sort and try out different poses so she can suddenly become "sexy" but not like Angelina who she suddenly resembles a WHOLE lot more then she did back when she was just a TV actress trying to get anotehr gig. But compare her to said actual actress and she goes on a cursing spree declaring how she's her own person. Yes she's right, she's nothing like Angelina, because Angelina actually is sexy, intelligent, can act and was a rebel doing her own thing for her own sake long before Fox grew breasts!

Sorry for the rant...she just irks me like no one else can.

I'll be honest i thought it was a good film not as good as the first but still good

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