Escape to the Movies: Transformers Revenge

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200 million, sweet mother of god.

Why does everybody hate this movie? I watch it today, and I freaking loved it to death! Better than the first!

EDIT: I don't think I should comment any further. I'm pretty sure this whole thread counts as a flame war.

I have only seen the trailers to Transformers and Transformers 2, but working from my theory that the trailers to movies are normally ten times more entertaining than the movies themselves they must suck. Besides 20 dollars for one movie ticket? it would be cheaper to just wait for it to come out on DVD and rent it.

I quite liked the film, but then again I wasn't expecting it to revolutionise cinema as we know it.

Flap Jack452:
This is the first review I've seen by you and I don't plan on seeing another.

Watch his review of "Up!", people seem to like him more when he is being nice. After you watch that, then make a decision as to watching him again.

TheFacelessOne:
Why does everybody hate this movie? I watch it today, and I freaking loved it to death! Better than the first!

Ya i like it to, then again I only went to see robot violence, so I got what i wanted!

TheFacelessOne:
Why does everybody hate this movie? I watch it today, and I freaking loved it to death! Better than the first!

Ya i like it to, then again I only went to see robot violence, so I got what i wanted!

TheFacelessOne:
Why does everybody hate this movie? I watch it today, and I freaking loved it to death! Better than the first!

Ya i like it to, then again I only went to see robot violence, so I got what i wanted!

TheFacelessOne:
Why does everybody hate this movie? I watch it today, and I freaking loved it to death! Better than the first!

Ya i like it to, then again I only went to see robot violence, so I got what i wanted!

To be perfectly honest I think a lot of reviewers are too hard on the movie, yes it was a piece of shit, but it didn't even need extra scenes or a rewrite to be good, but a damn editor with a hacksaw, 90% of the idiot kid's airtime needed to be cut and a good start would of been had.

TheFacelessOne:
EDIT: I don't think I should comment any further. I'm pretty sure this whole thread counts as a flame war.

Then obviously you're not looking hard enough. Plenty of posts here are civil, Omni's aside. (I'd love to hear what exactly he thinks is good mecha design, and why he hates Strike Freedom so much, but unfortunately he wound up suspended. I am honestly interested though.)
But honestly, did you listen to Moviebob? He explained in pretty explicit detail why this movie is absolute crap. I even summed up his argument a few posts back.

I loved the movie.

Only complaints is that the story was kinda hard to follow with odd plot design and the part where Optimus beat the shit out of the remaining Decepticons was kinda anti-climatic. I mean he gets a nice upgrade and proceeds to T-bag every one?

UsefulPlayer 1:
I loved the movie.

Only complaints is that the story was kinda hard to follow with odd plot design and the part where Optimus beat the shit out of the remaining Decepticons was kinda anti-climatic. I mean he gets a nice upgrade and proceeds to T-bag every one?

I'm also given to understand that he, earlier in the movie, beats up Megatron, Starscream, and another Decepticon unaided? By himself? No! I deny that that is even remotely possible!
*sigh* Damn it, Michael Bay...

Well, the only movie worse than Batman and Robin is Twilight.

sneakypenguin:
I never understood the rage against human characters in transformers. I strangely like Shia I think he's a good actor. I couldn't make it though the review cause it seem hate for hates sake. My personal opinion was it was the most fun movie i've seen this summer. But i'm not a critic or cynic....

I completely agree with you, MovieBob was already prejudiced against transformers so there was no way he would give a fair review to a movie that was simply a lot of fun.

My main problem with opinions like this is that it's Transformers, what else did you expect?

I was a huge fan as a kid I have all the dvds and still watch them on a semi regular basis, had quite a large collection of the toys (Sadly all gone now)

I can quite honestly say that in my opinion this is exactly how a transformers film would be.

This is not G1 transformers it's not even that animated travesty currently on kids channels at the moment http://www.transformersanimated.com/ you think the film sullies the memory of transformers? check that out.

People need to stop looking at modern interpretations of franchises from their past with shit coloured lenses.

DalekJaas:

I completely agree with you, MovieBob was already prejudiced against transformers so there was no way he would give a fair review to a movie that was simply a lot of fun.

Quite so.

Apparently hating the entire Transformers thing from the first movie, then going to watch the second one which you know will be more of the same?
Very clever, MovieBob. I'm sure you can go ahead and copy-paste this for the Transformers 3 movie when it comes.

And bleeping out the all the fucking during your review would make it at least remotely funny. Consider it.

ZippyDSMlee:

jacobschndr:
rant rant bitch rant
stop copying Yahtzee

Sorry but the great stallion did not event ranting or humor or game bashing,he might be good at it all sometimes....but.....get over it it plz. =^^=

Sorry, but Movie Bob he uses the same type of humour with the same style on the SAME website.
I don't like unskippable, but it is different to Zero Punctuation. Are they ripping off each other, no? They are a very different style.

But MobieBob is just doing to movies that Yahtzee does to games.
Again, on the same website.

Your argument is like calling the Mighty Changing Power Rangers toys not a rip off of the Mighty Morphing Power Rangers. Its basically identical

Thyunda:
The robot designs are ugly? Oh, here's an argument for you: IT'S NOT G1!
Yeah, G1 was great and all, but if I wanted to watch it, I'd buy the DVDs. The moment somebody tries to make the robots look less human, and more alien, every damn fan stands up and starts to cry.
Seriously. That's just immature. I liked this movie's Wheelie. He didn't rhyme like a douchebag. And as for Skids and Mudflap, I thought I'd hate them. I didn't. I liked them.

And what's this about it all being the humans? I can't think of one scene that wasn't interrupted by an obnoxious robot.

I'm sorry, did you even see this movie or just read a Transfan forum and look at some pictures? Yeah, they made Devastator do nothing but dig a hole. What were you wanting him to do? Go on a destructive rampage? IN A DESERT?

Sunset..? Where'd you get that idea from? Ok, so the entire first film was set in the sunset. The opening scene to this is at night. The college scenes and the desert are in broad daylight. Though, oddly Shanghai was in daylight before NEST got there.

And I thought the fight scenes were pretty damn clear. The one featuring Optimus Prime and the three Decepticons? That was clear. I saw everything. Bumblebee versus Rampage and Ravage - That was also clear.

And as for Soundwave, what did you expect a communications specialist to do? He did what his G1 job was. Even had the same voice actor. But nope, because he didn't stomp around all blue and cassette player-like, he's bad.

Oh yeah. I noticed the little dig at the flames. "Optimus Prime has flames! What are we going to do?!"
Grow up. Seriously. Somebody paints flames onto a big truck, and you get all upset. G1 was great and all, but once again, if I wanted to watch it, I WOULD.

And finally - The human characters. How do you relate to a plot about giant robots? It's like trying to empathise with the bloody penguins from Happy Feet. They emoted and spoke, but they were just penguins, and I don't think anybody here gave a damn whether Mumble could sing or not, or whether his dancing was a talent or a stylish seizure.

As has been mentioned, this sounds like a review hating for the sake of hating. Go ahead, hug your G1 DVDs and figures, tell them it'll be alright. That they'll come back one day.

They're not going to. Otherwise they wouldn't be worth so much, would they, Afterburner? He's my only G1 figure. :(

^^ This guy has the right idea. This video review is a whole lot of hating over a whole lot of nothing.

The only truth in that 'review' was the hollowness of Megan Fox's character. The rest of it was stupid, lame exaggeration (excuse me, it costs AU$11 dollars to go to the cinema, in other words that's less than 10 US dollars, let alone TWENTY you stingy fool) and you imitate Yahtzee in his wit and speed and video style in an attempt to make people listen to your stupid, narrow-minded opinions and arrogant conceitedness (I'd like to see you make a better Transformers movie with your ideallic characters and CGI effects, then charge a price in a cinema and expect to earn a profit), and your limited, pathetic insult vocabulary (come on, the word douche-bag every five seconds does NOT make you authoritative and cool) just makes you sound overall like a biased, attention-seeking Tourettes patient with access to a microphone and Movie Maker.

Speaking of movie maker, you made half your slides too hard to read and YOU DIDN'T SPELL THINGS PROPERLY. You are several hundred tons of pure FAIL and you'll never be as good as the Yahtzee you're trying to be, so stop NOW and maybe you'll actually be of some value to The Escapist.

Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen was an awesome movie.

Stop listening to this guy just because he tries to be the Yahtzee of cinema.

Form your own opinions, shit.

Cody211282:

TheFacelessOne:
Why does everybody hate this movie? I watch it today, and I freaking loved it to death! Better than the first!

Ya i like it to, then again I only went to see robot violence, so I got what i wanted!

Quadruple post? Tha's got to be a record.

It's obvious that MovieBob hates Bay and anything made by him, but regardless of how bad the movie was from a technical standpont, whether you enjoy it or not is entirely subjective.

Wish he would stop his grudge against Bay. Haven't seen this movie yet, but heard from friends it sucked.

But even if it do, why the fuck this grudge agaisnt bay. Déjà vú was an okay flick, The island, was pretty damn good, The Rock is my favorite movie and is simply so chuck full of awesome that my mind nearly explodes.

Micheal Bay is okay!

Saw moviebobs review, thought oh shit (baring in mind this is the first review i had watched). None the less, I went to watch it last night, put it this way, I won't be watching another movie bob review again - it was a truly awesome film, sit back, turn brain off, and grin ear to ear going "mmmmmm explosions and shiny things"

Jang:
Wish he would stop his grudge against Bay. Haven't seen this movie yet, but heard from friends it sucked.

But even if it do, why the fuck this grudge agaisnt bay. Déjà vú was an okay flick, The island, was pretty damn good, The Rock is my favorite movie and is simply so chuck full of awesome that my mind nearly explodes.

Micheal Bay is okay!

Déjà Vu was Tony Scott.

Pezzer:
Y'know, Movie bobs opinions are becoming less and less valued by me. EVERYONE I know liked the Transformers movie and I've been told that the second is even better.

Oh, than I'm afraid to ask you about your milieu.
This is some scary thing you've just said about your life my friend...

Lightbunny:

Jang:
Wish he would stop his grudge against Bay. Haven't seen this movie yet, but heard from friends it sucked.

But even if it do, why the fuck this grudge agaisnt bay. Déjà vú was an okay flick, The island, was pretty damn good, The Rock is my favorite movie and is simply so chuck full of awesome that my mind nearly explodes.

Micheal Bay is okay!

Déjà Vu was Tony Scott.

Son of a... you're right.

My bad. Well insert Pearl Habour in there instead then ;)

I was disappointed they made Soundwave a satellite.

I like how there is no such thing as an average Movie Bob Review. He either praises a movie as a glorious treasure or a soul crushing dissapointment. A lot of movie reviews seem to hedge their bets saying you might like or you might not. I applaud Movie Bob for taking a stand one way or the other. While I rairly go to see movies, Movie Bob is fast becoming my seccond favorite escapist feature. ZP of course taking first.

Pankeyman:
Spectacular review, Bob. Michael Bay DOEs indeed suck, they should give him the boot and get somebody more competent to diect next time.

Oh, and if you guys want to hear more bitching about the Transformers movie here's another excellent review don by The Spoony One: http://www.spoonyexperiment.com/2009/06/25/transformers-revenge-of-the-fallen-review/

Is it ok if I want to watch the movie just to see ho bad it is?

Thanks for the link. Haven't seen the movie yet but I'm not surprised

Thesreyn:
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen was an awesome movie.

Stop listening to this guy just because he tries to be the Yahtzee of cinema.

Form your own opinions, shit.

You know something? I did form my own opinion. Know how? By listening to the reasons Moviebob gave for not liking the movie (okay, he would put it more strongly than "didn't like", but whatever.)
At the same time, I had a friend who genuinely likes the movie and thinks it's far improved over the first one. More robots, more action, and he at least didn't think the plot was a pile of suck. I still don't expect to like it (though I am considering giving it a chance now), due to the fact that I agree with Moviebob that the robots look terrible (and this is said as someone who's never watched G1, so DON'T try and call fanboy on me), and from the fact that it was confirmed that it's still Sam Whitwicky's story, even if the robots got a bigger part in it. And I honestly don't care about Sam. At all. And I care less about his family. And even less than that about whatever Megan Fox's character's name was. If a Transformers movie ever wants to get above mediocre (on its own merits; as another poster has said, a movie for a great franchise like the Transformers fails unless it's at least as great on its own merits) it needs to stop letting humans take center stage. Support? Fine. Showing what the military's up to, how they're reacting to invasion by sentient robots from another planet? Allowable. Making the main focus some random teen's complicated home and love life? No. No. NO!
(Why the hate for the hackers, though? They were genuinely funny, and although the military subplot wasn't SO necessary, but still...)
... Thinking about it again, though... honestly in the first movie, I was disappointed by some (especially Optimus) but the only design I actually hated was Megatron. From what Moviebob showed us the new designs are horrible (especially that spindly Fallen thing), but maybe those guys won't take up so much of the screen that it detracts from the less suckish robot designs. So, like I said, I'll give it a chance, though I have misgivings about it.

I still argue that Bay horribly misused his shiny things. Optimus can't ace three Decepticons at once, even if the scene is hailed by my friend as absolutely amazing, Devastator existing solely as a hole-digger makes no sense, and even with super armor, Optimus should not take mere moments to destroy something capable of blowing up the SUN.

A random person:

Thyunda:

Onmi:

Thyunda:

No, you simply don't like them. Stop trying to force your opinion onto other people. If you think the designs were bad, fine. Cry about them elsewhere. Otherwise, shut the fuck up.

Good god Thyunda would you please, Shut The Hell UP! IT is NOT good design, it is A. Impracticable design, B. UGLY design, C. IMPOSSIBLE Design, See you haven't yet told me how the design is good other than "Oh but I like it! you must just hate it" When I have gone on and on showing how the design is BAD.

Again for your fucking stupid mind to comprehend, this is an example of GOOD mecha design

image

This is an example of BAD mecha design

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If you can't tell me why the second design is bad, then you do not have the RIGHT to comment on mecha design!

AGAIN! JUST BECAUSE YOU LIKE IT DOESN'T MAKE IT GOOD! IT JUST MEANS YOUR TASTE AND OPINION ABSOLUTELY SUCK!

And that's the bottom line.

That first one is ugly as sin.

I'd tend to side with the second "bad" one myself. Also, ignore Onmi, he's just trying to pass off his opinion as fact.

Indeed, And I agree... the First one is f****** ugly.

Thesreyn:
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen was an awesome movie.

Stop listening to this guy just because he tries to be the Yahtzee of cinema.

Form your own opinions, shit.

Actually he's quite awesome and has his own style. No, I don't agree with him on this. The first movie was great, the second movie was great and I don't see the point in whining because they didn't make the movie the way he wanted.

hamster mk 4:
I like how there is no such thing as an average Movie Bob Review. He either praises a movie as a glorious treasure or a soul crushing dissapointment. A lot of movie reviews seem to hedge their bets saying you might like or you might not. I applaud Movie Bob for taking a stand one way or the other. While I rairly go to see movies, Movie Bob is fast becoming my seccond favorite escapist feature. ZP of course taking first.

Watch some of the older ones from the Escapist Show. I'm fairly certain he gives Max Pain and My Bloody Valentine 3D an average score

I find it amusing that people still say "This film was good". T2 is not even a film... You may like what you saw, but as a film, a piece of cinema, it objectively sucks. It's sooo bad in its every aspect. I don't know even where to start, so I suggest that instead some certin people would educate themselves what a film medium is and what it isn't.

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