EDGE of Asshattery

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MaxTheReaper:

Diddy_King:
Man...how has this guy not been beaten to death yet?

God, I'm sorry, alright?
I can't just magically appear at his house.
I have to buy plane tickets, pack, find out where he lives...

These things take time!

scnj:

He honestly makes Activision look good. And that's no mean feat.

He must be destroyed.

Can I come if I pay halfsies on the plane ticket?

I sent Dread Cthulu to kill him or drive him insane, until then we will just have to file complaints with IGDA to have him removed from the board.

Emptor:

Can I come if I pay halfsies on the plane ticket?

I wish...
Killfest 2009 is being put on hold.
:[

He has achieved the godlike status of Douche Extraordinaire. A title now shared with Jack Thompson. Congrats, dude. You are most annoying person on the planet.

Where did I leave my Troll-Slaying Horn and Sword?

SharPhoe:

Susan Arendt:
Hey, hey, let's stop wishing physical harm on the guy, ok? Karma, people, karma.

I was about to voice the same thing. If anything, I jsut wanna give the guy a very stern talking-to.

The man talks to lawyers for a living. Think about it- if he can stand those air horns, no amount of "stern talking-to" will shake him.
Threats on his life won't work, he knows how to use the law to his defense.
Thus he qualifies as "lawful evil" on the D&D 3.5 scale of alignment, and the only way to deal with these people is to permanently end their access to law, people, and money. And we know just kicking them out of their position won't work because that's how they find ways of revenge.

In a saying; Freedom is wasted on the free.

I think this guy may be worse than Jack Thompson because there's the remote possibility that Thompson actually believes what he's doing is the right thing. This guy most likely knows he's exploiting the system for his own financial gain, and that conscious knowledge somehow makes his endeavors more egregious to me.

Sewblon:
I sent Dread Cthulu to kill him or drive him insane, until then we will just have to file complaints with IGDA to have him removed from the board.

Let's find that one group that's starting funds to remove that guy and donate!

Well, Monsanto can patent life... what's to stop this cunt from getting a word?

Rage levels... RISING!!!

I say we do the same with this Tim Langdell as "we" did with Jack Thompson, get his ass disbarred!

His entire business practice puts The Bar the shame, he should be thrown out on the streets and at his age, with this economic climate and with no useful skill he will likely be forced to live a paupers life working in some low paying blue collar job to die poor, old and alone.

A fitting fate for someone who clearly abuses the legal system to leach off the creativity and productivity of others.

We need to make an example of this guy, going after indy developers is the lowest of the low, we need to send a message that you can't get away with this shyster litigation, we aren't going to roll over like other industries and take it up the butt.

So I propose the petition:

DISBAR TIM LANGDELL!!

(It shouldn't be hard, just check out the wikipedia page of Langdell's company (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EDGE_Games) it is a veritable smorgasbord of frivolous litigation)

i read this and thought i should contact these guys @ corp@edgegames.com <corp@edgegames.com>
but it was just to tell them i love them

Susan Arendt:
Hey, hey, let's stop wishing physical harm on the guy, ok? Karma, people, karma.

It's really hard not to. you're right in the end though.. other cheek and all that jazz, but you know that when you first heard of this guys antics (before we even fathomed that someone this vile could even exist no doubt), you thought briefly of putting him into a shrinking box that wouldn't stop shrinking. ever.

that's basically all I have to say about this guy. Part of me wants to crush him into a singularity.. but Susan's right.

I just hope that Chaos gets something done about him. People like this guy are worse for gaming then even a bar certified jack thompson.

ninjablu:
Thus he qualifies as "lawful evil" on the D&D 3.5 scale of alignment, and the only way to deal with these people is to permanently end their access to law, people, and money. And we know just kicking them out of their position won't work because that's how they find ways of revenge.

Geek-ghasm!

But I totally agree. You can shoot at evil, you can blow it up *cough*Hitler-assassination-bomb-plot*cough* and that will not flap lawful evil. (get that, NO physical threats against him!)

The only thing lawful evil truly fears... is to lose it's power. Power is the only thing it loves.

Take away this man's company and right to practice law... that will cut deeper than anything else.

But how...

For the sake of Indie gaming, We Must Prevail!

There is only one solution.

Sue him out of existence.

Monopoly, restraint of trade, harassment, whatever. Someone like EA needs to go after him, and get a settlement so large that he'll never have money to pursue litigation again.

Then they need to make a game called "Edge of Edges."

SpaceGhost2K:
There is only one solution.

Sue him out of existence.

Monopoly, restraint of trade, harassment, whatever. Someone like EA needs to go after him, and get a settlement so large that he'll never have money to pursue litigation again.

Then they need to make a game called "Edge of Edges."

You, sir, have just made my "Top 10 posts" list's number 2 spot.

That thought is eerily attractive; the legal evil of one man versus the legal evil of a developer-swallowing conglomerate.

Also, welcome to the forums!

The law says you can't patent a word, phrase, or name you didn't invent. so why is he able to?

CantFaketheFunk:
You're a great writer, Shamus, I've always said that. But...

Shamus Young:
which is like having the Incredible Hulk as a member of The International Committee Against Smashing Shit Into Tiny Pieces.

... may be the best line I've ever read of yours.

I feel the same way, heh :)

Yoshemo:
The law says you can't patent a word, phrase, or name you didn't invent. so why is he able to?

He really isn't, but he only targets people who can't fight back.

SpaceGhost2K:

Then they need to make a game called "Edge of Edges."

NO! Edgy edge of edges' edgeness

MaxTheReaper:

I can't, guys.
My mommy said no on account of karma.
*kicks at ground*
S'not fair...

The last time my parents let me drive, I wrecked their karma. Now they only let me walk the dogma.

Susan Arendt:
Hey, hey, let's stop wishing physical harm on the guy, ok? Karma, people, karma.

Ahh but what if the the physical harm we wish to inflict upon him is Tim Langdells Karma working through us?

Man that's real? Thatguys is SUCH a dick, I hope when I make games I don't run into bullies like him.

I'm a big fan of EDGE Magazine - it's my print complement to Escapist Magazine. In fact, when Escapist originally launched I was like "Holy crap, it's EDGE Magazine quality, online for free. Only they don't do reviews or job stuff."

Thus, the first thing I noticed before the "MIRRORS a game by EDGE" advert on his site, was the fact that the two logos - EDGE Gaming and EDGE Magazine - are practically identical!!

EDGE Magazine:
image

EDGE Gaming:
image
(sorry, couldn't find an alternate image than the one in the article).

This is beyond hypocrisy, this is outright Registered Trademark theft.

If you're an IGDA member, there's an active petition to force the IGDA executive board to hold a vote on whether or not to remove Tim Langdell. See the link for details, but there is a section of the IGDA's by-laws that address this issue. *Please* sign this petition if you're an active IGDA member.

And if this could make its way into the article, that would be fantastic too.

What a fuckwit.

And now hes sold at least a couple thousand copies of the game at least, as soon as its back online - heck, I want to buy a copy and I don't _own_ an iPhone - not to mention ensured that noone who ever hears of him will ever purchase anything from "Edgy Gaming", should they ever get it together enough to produce something.

Not that you want to let the fuckwits win, but whats to stop Mobigame from filing for a trademark of their own on... say... EDJ, doing a quick search-and-replace, changing a few graphics, and sending it back to Apple? If douchebag-features pipes up again you can show the paperwork for a prior claim to the name. Not to mention the good press for Apple if they stomp on him / bad press if they let him get away with this; anyone tried a letterbomb campaign on Apple?

It's always ugly when someone who's supposed to be helping people turns out to be an ass. Higher position just makes the whole thing terrible. Who would want to touch IGDA or anything else he worked on now?

edit: Come to think of it, wasn't there a bit similar quality of life scandal with an IGDA board member in the middle some months ago?

The guys who made "Edge" were a bit... too professional. If I got a letter from this Tim guy, I would have sent a reply saying only this:

"Go fuck yourself.

See you in court!"

Tim is the Bill Gates of gaming. "What's that? A small company I can exploit? BY YOUR POWERS COMBINED, I AM CORPORAL LAWSUIT!"

i must say i was cheering for tim during most of this article (but then again my dream job is to become an assassin so i might have different morals than most) until i read the part about edgy, thats just insane.

tendo82:
I think this guy may be worse than Jack Thompson because there's the remote possibility that Thompson actually believes what he's doing is the right thing. This guy most likely knows he's exploiting the system for his own financial gain, and that conscious knowledge somehow makes his endeavors more egregious to me.

I agree. It';s the difference between woefully misguided and relentlessly predatory.

This is worse than the guy who registered the word "Stealth" and sued Fox.

All in favor of spamming the free website hosts and registering every combination of the word "edge" say "trademark!"

edge.webs.com/donkeyporn here I come.

Susan Arendt:
Hey, hey, let's stop wishing physical harm on the guy, ok? Karma, people, karma.

Are you implying severe mental anguish then? Perhaps slowly dragging his mind into the inescapable depths of insanity will make him think twice.

Also: If you're a member of the IGDA, you can sign a petition for a motion to remove Langdell from the IGDA.

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=68SOsjTK_2f9qJvOQ_2b2Zw7_2fA_3d_3d

I'm not a member and I'm not informed on their inner workings, but you can read about the effort here:

http://corvus.zakelro.com/

...which is where I learned about the story in the first place.

It most likely won't help Mobigames, but it will at least help IGDA, in my opinion.

Timmy is the new Jack Thompson. I hope he gets perma-banned from the industry for such Lawful Evil (lots more and stronger profanity, etc, etc).

Edge is a fun iphone game, this guy is absolutely ridiculous. How does he sleep at night?

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