Review: Brutal Legend

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Russ Pitts:

MurderousToaster:
The guy speaking sounds like a telemarketer

"Hello, is the owner of the house in?"

Hello, I'm the Editor-in-Chief of this website! Nice to meet you.

Unlike a lot of folks who do game-related podcasts and videos, I actually have professional vocal training, which might be what makes my voice sound odd to you, if you're used to listening to stuff on other sites ;)

Or it's possible I was channeling my inner cable TV salesperson for this video. That's always a distinct possibility.

Wanna buy some cable TV?

A-ha! So thats your day job Russ! We were all wondering where the money came from.

Anywho, I've played more of Brutal legend now, and I can safely say the experience has only got better, and the RTS sections are good, though its just fun to drive around the world of metal in the Druid Plow.

CaptainChaosify:
Good review.
Can't wait for the game to come out in Ireland. :D

Eagi:
Any more recognisable faces apart from Jack Black and Ozzy?

I know some of the people that show up in the game but they might be a spoiler to the game.


Welcome to the Escapist. :)

Yeah, those are totally real people. Lemmy is the lead singer of Motorhead, and Lita Ford had here own. I recognize Rob Halford's name, but can't place him at the moment.

Seems like a cool game, i'll probably wait till summer though, already have money invested in two other games coming out this fall.

Doug:
A-ha! So thats your day job Russ! We were all wondering where the money came from.

Err ... no ... actually my day job IS being the Editor-in-Chief of The Escapist. We have an office and everything. And benefits. It's pretty sweet. The acting and stuff was from a former career and ... hang on. I think I'm about to spoil your illusion of how old I am. Better to stop there.

Actually, I'm totally living in my parents' basement and running this site in my spare time with some friends who are also in school and young and sexy and stuff. Yeah. That's it. :-/

hansari:

Russ Pitts:
[quote="BaldursBananaSoap" post="6.149099.3479797"]At the time of writing I had played for 9 hours and was just over 50% complete. I dilly dally a lot though, so the game's story is probably about 12-15 hours long. I will most likely get 20+ hours out of it. Not bad.

Giantbomb is claiming its like 4 hours...how much dilly-dallying do you do?

I can't speak for Giantbomb review process, nor would I want to. But I can assure you the game is longer than 4 hours.

Russ Pitts:

MurderousToaster:
The guy speaking sounds like a telemarketer

"Hello, is the owner of the house in?"

Hello, I'm the Editor-in-Chief of this website! Nice to meet you.

Unlike a lot of folks who do game-related podcasts and videos, I actually have professional vocal training, which might be what makes my voice sound odd to you, if you're used to listening to stuff on other sites ;)

Or it's possible I was channeling my inner cable TV salesperson for this video. That's always a distinct possibility.

Wanna buy some cable TV?

Quite possibly the vocal training part.

(Also, I would buy some cable T.V, but I've checked, and it's not available in my area. Poor me)

Does anyone know how to unchain those statues? Not the dragons with the ball gags, the other ones?

Oh and I beat the game and it does feel short, but because I didn't want it to end. They could've totally dragged it out by having you

in between demon's souls and uncharted 2, this is at the bottom of the list...

TBH from other reviews is looks more like a failure considering it comes from Timmy, looks he focused more on the metal theme then actual gameplay this time round

Dammit. You make it sound soo appealing but... It has jack black. That is too much of a deal breaker for me. Would be like having a Final Fantasy VII movie with that twat justin timberlake playing Sephiroth. It just kills it.
Bring on the PC version dammit so we can mod that hack out!

TsunamiWombat:
Does anyone know how to unchain those statues? Not the dragons with the ball gags, the other ones?

Oh and I beat the game and it does feel short, but because I didn't want it to end. They could've totally dragged it out by having you

The Earth Shaker. Seriously I'm pretty sure it's in the manual.

Edit: Nevermind it actually it doesn't say that specifically.

Russ Pitts:
Review: Brutal Legend

Brutal Legend is f*&#ing metal. (That's a good thing.)

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I've a quick question about the game Russ. After completion of the story, can you still roam the land? Only, I don't think I'll be able to collect all the collectables and...

...before I complete the story without having to look up a map or something, and I feel that could spoiler the rest of the story for me.

Doug:

I've a quick question about the game Russ. After completion of the story, can you still roam the land? Only, I don't think I'll be able to collect all the collectables and...

...before I complete the story without having to look up a map or something, and I feel that could spoiler the rest of the story for me.

As far as I know from reading around: You will be able to collect everything you missed after beating the game. There are even things only available after you have done so.
Still got a few missions before I have beaten it. Think I am going to do some of the side-missions first though. Only done like... three or four of them. And I am 48% done or something with 5:54 on the clock. Which means it is shorter than I had hoped, but longer than what some reviewers say. Either way, I am having a blast.

Jaqen Hghar:

Doug:

I've a quick question about the game Russ. After completion of the story, can you still roam the land? Only, I don't think I'll be able to collect all the collectables and...

...before I complete the story without having to look up a map or something, and I feel that could spoiler the rest of the story for me.

As far as I know from reading around: You will be able to collect everything you missed after beating the game. There are even things only available after you have done so.
Still got a few missions before I have beaten it. Think I am going to do some of the side-missions first though. Only done like... three or four of them. And I am 48% done or something with 5:54 on the clock. Which means it is shorter than I had hoped, but longer than what some reviewers say. Either way, I am having a blast.

Indeed, I think it depends on skill level, game level, and all that, heh - either way, its great! Very fun, funny, and exploring the world is fun too :) Sadly, I do think the main thread will be under the 15 hour mark for me, but I can always try multiplayer and finish off finding everything.

Erm, Hi there. New round these parts. First off, Mr. Editor In Chief, have you ever been told that you sound a lot like Agent Smith? Quite disconcerting that.

Anyway, to the game at hand. I have to say that after a couple of days with Brutal Legend I've had to give up on it.

It comes as a bitter blow as I had been really looking forward to this one. I'm not a metal fan, was always more of a Radiohead type music fan (which will probably result in snorts of derision from the metal faithful) but I was a big, big fan of Double Fine's previous work on Psychonauts.

The first major disappointment is that even after following this game through internet sites and physical media I was not prepared for what the actual game actually turned out to be. Even the demo didn't hint at what the game would turn out to be: a heavy metal tinged tutorial for a hack 'n' slash/RTS hybrid set in an open world.

The idea must have seemed exciting and different on paper but in reality it has turned out to be a clumsy unfocused mess. The controls are not tight enough, nor the mechanics sound enough for the game to pull off hack and slash combat with any conviction and the fact that it manages to make all aspects of micro managing troops and resourcing more convoluted in this new guise makes the game completely ineffectual as even a watered down RTS.

It really is a shame as a lot of love has obviously been poured into the world, the characters and the lore and as an homage to metal it really is unmatched. The writing snaps and fizzles along and it's got loads of nice little touches. The problem is that video games are a tactile experience and although Schaffer's time served in point and click adventures has given him a great canvas for expanding his story telling it hasn't given him much training in how to create a great gameplay moments. Great games are built on satisfying controls and mechanics, not on great story telling and it's that which needs most focus for the next Double Fine adventure. As it stands the gameplay elements seem superfluous to the creative vision and not as an intrinsic part of it's DNA.

I await the masterpiece that the studio is capable of creating, given the right focus.

The only thing that's annoying me is the first proper 'show' against the Drowning Doom. The enemy leader (whom shall not be named for risk of spoilers) is so impossible to remove from the battlefield, and their forces take so many hits to kill it's truly annoying. If anyone has any tips (and not switching to 'Gentle' mode, that's not the point) I'd gladly accept them.

On the plus side, I got this yesterday, which was 2 days before the UK release (wooh for pre-ordering!)

Avykins:
Dammit. You make it sound soo appealing but... It has jack black. That is too much of a deal breaker for me. Would be like having a Final Fantasy VII movie with that twat justin timberlake playing Sephiroth. It just kills it.
Bring on the PC version dammit so we can mod that hack out!

What the f*k are you on about?! That's one of the most awesome things in the game! Nobody else can play his character.

Megacherv:
What the f*k are you on about?! That's one of the most awesome things in the game! Nobody else can play his character.

A fat, talentless, humourless, loud mouthed, arrogant hack? Shit half of america can play that role.
And if they need help all they need to do is watch any of his "movies" as his character never ever changes. Because he is unable to play anything else, he does not have enough acting ability to.

Edit: Oh and you can swear... No one will tell your mother.

Avykins:

Megacherv:
What the f*k are you on about?! That's one of the most awesome things in the game! Nobody else can play his character.

A fat, talentless, humourless, loud mouthed, arrogant hack? Shit half of america can play that role.
And if they need help all they need to do is watch any of his "movies" as his character never ever changes. Because he is unable to play anything else, he does not have enough acting ability to.

Edit: Oh and you can swear... No one will tell your mother.

Well, argue that to Tim Schafer, as he was the one that got him to play the part. I personally think he's just ace. I can't describe it, he's just awesome.

asunder 82:
Erm, Hi there. New round these parts. First off, Mr. Editor In Chief, have you ever been told that you sound a lot like Agent Smith? Quite disconcerting that.

You're a virus, FYI. ;)

I really really wish this was coming out on PC... the game sounds awesome, but not sufficiently so to make me buy a console. :(

Touche Mr.Smith...... if it starts chubby raining round my parts I'm telling my Mum.

Russ Pitts:
Recommendation: Buy this game. Go to the game store right now and buy it. Then kick over the cash register and smash your plastic guitar in the name of metal.

I'll probably do that anyway, if only because I want to support Double Fine. Those guys are awesome.

BRÜTAL LEGEND. Ü. What the fuck. German umlauts? You don't even have German umlauts on your keyboard. I guess, just like Germans think, using english is somewhat cool, so do English people about using German.
Ä, Ö, Ü.........ha, I can do umlauts! (wow, I'm really sorry for that)

Anyways-
Jack Black and Ozzy Osbourne? Wow. What a game. o.o
Usually I like metal, but I'm not *that* big of a fan. Hm. Maybe I'll give the game a try.

Aaaahh, pronouncing "Brütal Legend" like you would pronounce the German umlaut ü sounds so silly. xD

I liked the whole "Rocktober" thing though. Thank you, Escapist.

Well, I've played the first few story missions and tooled around in the Deuce for awhile. I like it quite well, but I am a little dissapointed so far.

As I expected, the characters, world, and story are awesome. Great, funny writing, voice acting, and animation make the cut scenes a true pleasure to watch. A metalhead couldn't be more pleased.

The gameplay, on the other hand - it's not really bad or anything, just not really my cup of tea, so to speak. I never play RTS games, and so I don't really like that aspect of BL so much. If I recall correctly, when Brutal Legend was first revealed in Game Informer a good while ago, it was described as a straight-up 3rd-person action game. That's the game I wish I was playing.

Oh well. It's not bad by any means. It's quite fun just exploring, finding bound serpents and legendary artifacts (I absolutely love the myths and legends with the black and white illustrations). Maybe after awhile, I'll get more used to the RTS controls and start to enjoy it more.

Megacherv:
The only thing that's annoying me is the first proper 'show' against the Drowning Doom. The enemy leader (whom shall not be named for risk of spoilers) is so impossible to remove from the battlefield, and their forces take so many hits to kill it's truly annoying. If anyone has any tips (and not switching to 'Gentle' mode, that's not the point) I'd gladly accept them.

On the plus side, I got this yesterday, which was 2 days before the UK release (wooh for pre-ordering!)

Yeah the Goth Kids are really tough. Especially on the Brutal difficulty.

The only advice i can give is to make sure to take all the fan booths and try your best to vary your army with a balance of anti-vehicle, anti-infantry, and buffers.

Use the Amazons on the Fire beasts to kill hordes of regular infantry.

Use the bouncers to destroy the enemy vehicles.

The Pyro Bikers are also good against infantry.

The Killmaster bikers stun enemies and heal ur units so make sure you have few of those in each group.

Use the the Hot ROds with the turrets to tear down enemy fan booths.

When you have a lot of infantry around it helps to do your facemelter solo on your guitar.

Try to do as many double teams as possible.

Always try to remove the enemy leader first, THis prevents the enemy from taking undeveloped fan guysers and also keeps them from doing double teams on you(especially that nasty bride double team)

It took me a couple of redo's on Brutal but if I can do it anyone can.

TsunamiWombat:
Does anyone know how to unchain those statues? Not the dragons with the ball gags, the other ones?

Oh and I beat the game and it does feel short, but because I didn't want it to end. They could've totally dragged it out by having you

You open those statues by doing the earthshaterer or whatever it's called. I think its A and X at the same time.

Krunkcity3000:

Megacherv:
The only thing that's annoying me is the first proper 'show' against the Drowning Doom. The enemy leader (whom shall not be named for risk of spoilers) is so impossible to remove from the battlefield, and their forces take so many hits to kill it's truly annoying. If anyone has any tips (and not switching to 'Gentle' mode, that's not the point) I'd gladly accept them.

On the plus side, I got this yesterday, which was 2 days before the UK release (wooh for pre-ordering!)

Yeah the Goth Kids are really tough. Especially on the Brutal difficulty.

The only advice i can give is to make sure to take all the fan booths and try your best to vary your army with a balance of anti-vehicle, anti-infantry, and buffers.

Use the Amazons on the Fire beasts to kill hordes of regular infantry.

Use the bouncers to destroy the enemy vehicles.

The Pyro Bikers are also good against infantry.

The Killmaster bikers stun enemies and heal ur units so make sure you have few of those in each group.

Use the the Hot ROds with the turrets to tear down enemy fan booths.

When you have a lot of infantry around it helps to do your facemelter solo on your guitar.

Try to do as many double teams as possible.

Always try to remove the enemy leader first, THis prevents the enemy from taking undeveloped fan guysers and also keeps them from doing double teams on you(especially that nasty bride double team)

It took me a couple of redo's on Brutal but if I can do it anyone can.

It's fine now, completed the campaign yesterday (the day that it came out)

I've looked at this game, and really really love the concept.

Darn shame it's not coming out for PC.

this game was such a blast. i rented it and finished it in 3 sessions, now i try to get as close to 100% as possible. the game has it´s flaws, it seems to be a little buggy here and there(got stuck in walls, in battles the flag magic wouldnt work and my units would often simply not go to the flag, sometimes you have to be incredibly precise if you want to collect those spark-plug jump thingys, sometimes not), far too less combos and (useful!)stuff to buy for you if you compare to similar games. but oh, the game world! i had my fare share of metal in the past but was never a fan or something. the game got me hooked on some bands i only knew the names of. overall, everything besides the actual gameplay gets an a+. this is also one of the most impressive game worlds visually i ever got to play through, there´s so much awesome stuff with insane scale. sometimes it even reminded me of shadow of the colossus, but not that poetic more comical and, eh, brutal. but still incredibly beautiful. i will never forget freelancing to the wall of screams before i actually would have to go there and i´d never would have thought of something awesome like a giant wall of speakerboxes. as you can see, i´m unconditionally in love with this game. i will definetly buy when i have the money(and the price dropped once).

Nice review, still undecided about the game, cause I'm not a metal fan

GO F**KING CRAZZZZYYYYYYYY!!!! HA! Loved that bit.

Only 1 more day till I can play Brutal Legend.

This could be the first game EVER where I don't have to mute the music and put my own on in the background.

I looked at the artists involved. We have MANOWAR in there! And 3 Inches of Blood! Fuck yes!

I'm only a few hours in, but this is already a great game. The intro, though unskippable, was fun to watch (and play). I really appreciated the way it slowly introduced new concepts without forcing you through a step-by-step tutorial.

Even if this isn't an 80 hour game, it promises to be 20 hours of great fun. The Deuce is a pleasure to drive (rare for any vehicle in a video game) and Eddie's attacks are gratuitously satisfying.

Rock on!

I'm lovin the game so far. I am concerned about the RTS elements, I've only had the first battle, and it seemed to be a bit of a cluster fuck... I had no idea what was going on.

I'm reserving my complete judgement until I've played further through.

Bought this...beat it...play it often while online because the tracks are awesome...11/10.... just that metal. Everything from tracks from Tenacious D to Dethklok, this game screams METAL! Even my friend was surprised... was funny coming from him.

I must admit I don't really get the complaints about the 'RTS' sections. To me, they play more like something like Dynasty Warriors than a full-blown RTS, and it's more about picking where and how to commit your Avatar and when to double-team than it is about any high-faluting tactical plan. Of course if you try to play it as a pure RTS you'll lose, because you'll be keeping one of your most important weapons out of the fight. It feels like one person trying to lead an army by shouting and waving their arms about- which is exactly what's happening, after all :)

Of course, in multiplayer you could play it 'pure' RTS if both players agreed not to use their Avatar in combat, and there's a trophy in it IIRC.

One more thing I must mention- the cleverest trophy I've ever seen. "Six Degrees of Shafer". You get it by playing multiplayer with or against someone who already has it. Think about it :)

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