Review: Saw

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CaptainChaosify:
Good review, I didn't even know Saw the game was even out. :/
I saw two Saw movies, the first one was okay but the ending was predictable, the second movie was horrible but I couldn't guess what the ending was.
What movie was the game more along the lines of if you don't mind me asking?

Hmm...I don't want to give away a lot for the folks who might enjoy playing it, but given that you play as Detective Tapp and run into more than one person from his past...it's kind of like a blend of 2 and 3. It's definitely more trap-based than the original Saw, which had a far more robust storyline.

So the game has a creepy and unsettling atmosphere, it's based on a series of horror films, and the entire objective of the game itself is to survive... but it's not survival horror?

I'm incredibly confused by this concept and if someone could explain it to me then I would greatly appreciate it. Plus to narrowly define survival horror and then defend saw against other peoples narrow definitions of horror seems kinda... funny

Taerdin:
So the game has a creepy and unsettling atmosphere, it's based on a series of horror films, and the entire objective of the game itself is to survive... but it's not survival horror?

I'm incredibly confused by this concept and if someone could explain it to me then I would greatly appreciate it. Plus to narrowly define survival horror and then defend saw against other peoples narrow definitions of horror seems kinda... funny

Yeah, I knew I was going to get an argument on the survival horror line. :) Well, to my mind, at least, survival horror involves an impending threat from an outside enemy -- zombies, monsters, ghosts, whathaveyou, which is not the case with Saw. So it's not survival horror in the typical sense. That's my personal take on it, anyway, but your mileage may vary.

Susan Arendt:
*snip*

Fools! All horror movies are inferior in the prescence of The Shining (Best horror movie ever IMO)! :)

Saw could've been much better, it had a good concept but decided to focus on gore rather than a psychological element of horror, which would have been much more frightening. That said, time limits have always made me nervous in games and that combined with what appear to be reasonably tough puzzles should make my heart pump, a definite rental.

I was quite surprised. I was expecting another bad movie game, and admittedly I only played because as terrible as the movies are getting I'm a Saw fan through and through and I wanted to know every little detail. If anything my biggest complaint is from a story perspective. Everything is a bit lacking, but not so much it ruins the game, so you can kind of accept the little tics here and there once you get into it, and know how to play it properly (as mentioned, traps not hand to hand, unless you've got a one hit kill weapon or the cro-magnum). But story wise, I just don't think Tapp was really the most interesting character they could have picked. But the other details make it worthwhile, like who is the pig face? Where is the asylum? Related to the real estate deal gone wrong from Saw V perhaps? It's less the main focus of the game and more the subtle details that make it worth playing. It's a bloody treasure trove of easter eggs for the devoted fan (Hey it's the razor wire! Awesome, the shotgun traps! Holy shit dude Iron Maiden!), but damn it I want to know what happened to Dr. Gordon.

Down side was it only took me about five hours to play through, and I got snagged a couple of times, so not much incentive for a buy.

That opening bit with the Saw had me on the floor laughing. No joke. I really did ROTFLOL

Great review!

Vlane:
Saw isn't based on horror movies since the Saw series isn't part of the horror genre and I will personally punch you in the face if you say otherwise.

If you say "torture porn" you're the one that's getting a punch in the face... and groin.

Played the game through, and I have to say, I was really surprised. The combat is mostly broken, but once you get a hand of the stupid dodge, it's tolerable. The cool thing, though, is that you don't have to beat others to death. Some enemies have timed traps such as the reverse bear trap or the Venus fly-trap, and they will go off on the enemy if he doesn't kill you in time. So you just have to run an lock doors behind you and wait for their traps to go off. You can also find schematics to build your own traps and lay them around. However, the game absolutely nails the atmosphere and tone of the film. I think fans of the film are the ones who going to most appreciate the game.

I'd just let the head, bodies, and whatever just explode from random. Oh dark hallway RUN! *pop* LOL. It be my way of mocking horror films XD

Abedeus:
Wow, I thought this would suck. I mean, after Saw III and IV...

Btw, this still isn't the game with the most exploded heads ever. Try playing PsiOps - every time you sneak-sap someone, their head bursts from your PSYCHIC ABILITIES!!!

Catchy Slogan:
If it's anything like the first Saw movie, then I might buy it. I didn't relly like any of the movies past number 2, and that was pushing it a bit.

Pretty much my thoughts. Especially since I watched the first 3 movies one after another with few of my friends and we all agreed that 1 was great, 2 was okay, 3 was meh.

...Just like Matrix.

Yeah, I watched the first Saw and never saw the other ones. I really didn't see the point of continuing. I mean, I watched that movie and had to pick my jaw off the floor at the end. That's just me anyway. I'm sure you intelligent folks weren't impressed, but man, I literally could not leave until I watched the whole movie.

I still want to play the game. I watched my roommate play a bit, and I agree about the voice acting. Not so great. It doesn't match the situation too well.

Oh, one other thing about the voice acting that I neglected to mention - the barks repeat incessantly. The other inmates simply don't have enough to say. While I agree that someone with a shotgun collar beeping like mad around their neck isn't likely to be an amazing conversationalist, he'd likely say more than just "I have to do this!" over and over again.

sorry susan, I have to agree with Vlane

Movies like Saw, Hostel, Hills Have Eyes...its torture porn, its not horror

Call it an Ultra-violent thriller if you want, but my eye for horror is like, supernatural things like ghosts, aliens or mutated serial killers

Thats extremely narrow minded of me I know, but I will accept that Saw stands up there above every other torture porn (aside final destination 1 & 2) by actually having an interesting story and well developed recurring characters (not the silly impale-fodder)

Me, myself...i hate gratuitous...violence for the sake of violence that the cinema's seem to be caked with these days

28 days later, BEST HORROR EVER....homage to the fact that you dont need to make people jump to be scary, and dont need to pull out peoples rib cages to be disturbing

Dark Templar:

Vlane:

Susan Arendt:

Oh, really? You're going to punch me in the face? Good to know.

Damn it. Why do you have to respond? I can't hurt you.

Susan Arendt:
which are horror, whether you like them or not

No The Exorcist is a horror movie. The Saw series belongs to the torture porn genre or snuff movies. You watch a Saw movie to see the death scenes, which are good, but you don't watch them to get scared and I have no idea how you can get scared watching that.

You get off on bloody neck stumps?

Most of us care about our fellow human being enough at least be afraid FOR them. Saw is horror weather you like it or not.

After all, horror is an evolving genre. Saw is just different horror.

"Horror Weather" Now that would be a great movie.

At any rate. I haven't the ability to feel for the people in Saw mainly because of how poorly they are setup. The entire plot is so weak I almost expect an off stage personality to walk in and explain to us why the next scene is important.

Generally speaking nothing like saw, or any gore related movie, scares me. It just grosses me out. Which I can get from a short romp of watching someone eat pig testicles on some reality TV show.

Fear is instilled quite easily when you built up concern for a character, when you help make them relate able, that way when the scene begins it isn't them in the scene...it is you. You watching the world crumble around you as something you once thought certain and secure is taken from you.

At least that is how I've always looked at it. It is also the only time I get anxiety in a movie like that. So far of the Saw's I've seen the only emotion I've got was "Really?" Whenever the trap was something that would cause a person to sooner go into shock than actually finish. Yes...yes jigsaw...certainly going into shock will help that 60 second timer seem all the more reasonable...

At any rate I tried to make this less a bash on another 'invincible' title and more my take on horror (there are certain movies, music, and games that nobody can badmouth without being called out on it for trying to 'look cool' this usually is one of them).

Gore Porn is just like reality TV, it is cheap and easy, that is the real reason folks do it. Why pay a writer when you can just get drunk and write down different ways to abuse cutlery and shop tools?

Susan Arendt:
Oh, one other thing about the voice acting that I neglected to mention - the barks repeat incessantly. The other inmates simply don't have enough to say. While I agree that someone with a shotgun collar beeping like mad around their neck isn't likely to be an amazing conversationalist, he'd likely say more than just "I have to do this!" over and over again.

Never dated a pushy guy who really wanted a kiss? :P

Susan Arendt:

WHENTWOTRIBESGOTOWAR:

What actually qualifies SAW as a Horror, I can understand Halloween and The Ring being more atmospherically based alongside tension build ups etc.

SAW is pretty much

1. Puppeteer who has as much anger vs the world as an angsty teenage girl except has the means to carry out his plans.
2. Dark Dreary atmosphere
3. Over the top, unnecessary gore filler
4. Terrible writing and acting
5. A movie for kids below the age of 17.

Ok, let's all agree right now that the Saw movies aren't good movies. You are absolutely correct that the writing and acting are bad, and that they're about as sophisticated as my cat. But not being a good movie doesn't mean it's not a horror movie. You don't like the protagonist, but the godlike villain is a staple of horror, as is the dark, dreary atmosphere, the isolation, the feeling of helplessness, and so forth. Are there better examples of horror? Sure. But that doesn't mean Saw isn't horror.

I have to agree with this. Saw does count as horror, even if the movies pretty much suck (I kind of liked the first one, but after that...). Remember, most horror nowadays has (or tries to have) the above list's content, especially bad writing. In movies with a human antagonist, the antagonist is either:

A: A souless monster. Probably undead (Friday the 13th)
B: An angst / anger filled person bent on killing people. May or may not be undead. (The Ring, The Grudge)
C: Someone absolutely out of their mind (Halloween remakes)

That being said, the game actually looks like it is better than the movies. If I ever have the time, I may rent this game.

Since I hate the movies I doubt I'll like this game.

Susan Arendt:

CaptainChaosify:
Good review, I didn't even know Saw the game was even out. :/
I saw two Saw movies, the first one was okay but the ending was predictable, the second movie was horrible but I couldn't guess what the ending was.
What movie was the game more along the lines of if you don't mind me asking?

Hmm...I don't want to give away a lot for the folks who might enjoy playing it, but given that you play as Detective Tapp and run into more than one person from his past...it's kind of like a blend of 2 and 3. It's definitely more trap-based than the original Saw, which had a far more robust storyline.

Sounds interesting.
Worth renting the game at least just to see what it is like. Thank you.

Nice review. For a game that was completely off my radar it has made me think about getting it.

Lovely tag at the end, I think I may give it a try.

Cool review, nice job Suzzz =P.

Vlane:
Saw isn't based on horror movies since the Saw series isn't part of the horror genre and I will personally punch you in the face if you say otherwise.

So yeah I hate the movies so I will probably hate the game and I won't give it a chance to impress me.

But it's a nice review.

Saw 1 through 3 are definitely Horror. No doubt about it. They're in a tradition that goes back to Poe (although this time, the Pendulum frequently fails to stop swinging).

Saw 4 onwards are definitely...debatable. There's no suspense, because we don't care about or believe in any of the characters (usually deliberately), there's none of the campy 'frights' that make up the rest of the horror genre as I understand it. There's no horror in the things, how can they be considered horror?

Marble Hornets is ten times scarier even than the best instalment of the series, the first. And it's essentially no-budget. Make of that what you will.

The later Saw films are just a filmed version of Mousetrap (Ok, yeah, I know that already exists). And someone dies when the little guy jumps off the diving board.

This game looks quite good. Beginning to get sick of the continuity though, it no maek sens.

wouldyoukindly99:

Susan Arendt:
*snip*

Fools! All horror movies are inferior in the prescence of The Shining (Best horror movie ever IMO)! :)

Saw could've been much better, it had a good concept but decided to focus on gore rather than a psychological element of horror, which would have been much more frightening. That said, time limits have always made me nervous in games and that combined with what appear to be reasonably tough puzzles should make my heart pump, a definite rental.

nojustno

Hate The Shining.

Book much better. Muchmuchbetter. Kubrick vastly over-rated. Only film not completely ruined by him, Clockwork Orange, which no-one could ever ruin anyway. It's still significantly poorly directed.

Jesus, I may never forgive Kubrick for that cheesy adaptation, and for RUINING the end of bloody A.I. Which was amazing until the point that

. And apparently, it wasn't Spielberg who tacked the shitty ending on.

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