Stolen Pixels #138: On the Borderbus

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@Shamus: Maybe after the first bit of DLC is out, you can make a comparison to L4D....maybe even swap out Brick for Francis?? Hmmm? *hint* *hint*

Kross:

Ninja Tank:
wish you could attach a laser to the bird's head

You can give it shock damage with an elemental artifact, which is almost as good.

yeah...almost

Awesome.
We share a favorite there. Mordecai doesn't need any fancy powers because he can blow enemies away with the sheer force of his badassery.

Ha, this is why i like Lilth. I love the elemetal ability and that phasewalk kills everything when its electrically charged.

lvl9000_woot:
@Shamus: Maybe after the first bit of DLC is out, you can make a comparison to L4D....maybe even swap out Brick for Francis?? Hmmm? *hint* *hint*

Kross:

Ninja Tank:
wish you could attach a laser to the bird's head

You can give it shock damage with an elemental artifact, which is almost as good.

yeah...almost

Or we could make a water gun sniper so when your bird goes for someone its electracutes them, instantly.

Since a certain series has already got me enamored with awesome deadly bird-missiles, then this might be the character for me.

...Even if the bird doesn't have a sword in its beak.

The opening cinematic is one of the more inspired I've seen in a long time. Of all the games coming out now, Borderlands just keeps rising on my list as the one I am likely to get. I'd still need to decide if I'm getting it for the PC or PS3.

You do have to be careful with pets and ranged dps. That combo can get imbalanced fast particularly with creative uses of the pet.

Brick's melee special power is also pretty funny when they have put so much effort in the guns. And then they decide to give him a melee special power. ^^

Ninja Tank:
wish you could attach a laser to the bird's head

Is he ill-tempered?

Very funny! Mordecai is the character I chose to play as, and I still have yet to play as the others. I've fully upgraded Bloodwing though, so now when I use it, it definitely does a lot of damage to the surrounding enemies.

Scarlet Knight:

Ninja Tank:
wish you could attach a laser to the bird's head

Is he ill-tempered?

Very. Well it's a start.

If your fighting another player in a duel, Bloodwing is the best weapon. He never misses, and takes away a giant chunk of health.

I think he's the PvP class of the game.

oppp7:
Which one of these guys is the guy on the box cover?

Thats the psycho, an enemy who bumrushes you.

Sometimes their on fire and take out all your shield with one slash, and are very, very anoying. Thankfully one shotgun blast to the head usually deals with them.

oppp7:
Which one of these guys is the guy on the box cover?

None of them. The guy on the front cover is a Psycho Bandit (Maniac on second playthrough). He runs at you with a ludicrously big knife screaming "TIME TO PLAY WITH THE MEAT PUPPET!" and laughing. Later in the game, they get the option to set themselves on fire (making them immune to incendiary attacks) or use a primed grenade in a kamikaze attack which I am beginning to refer to as the "HOLY SHIT! WHY!? I WAS BEHIND COVER AND NOW I CAN'T GET A SECOND WIND YOU BASTARD!" attack.

OT - I thought Bloodwing was a bit rubbish... Until I gibbed a Skag several levels higher than me in a single shot. He's not the flashiest Action Skill, but he's scary if used right...

EDIT - damn, ninja'd!

Yeah, after messing around with the Sniper tree, I respecced into Bloodwing, and I never looked back. I always use Shockwing + Aerial Impact to stun and shock beefier/shielded enemies so I can set up a headshot, and when it's done killing the handful of weaker enemies that are behind cover or whatever, it gives me a great heal. CRUCIAL against bosses, since I can toss, mouse-over the boss, and run away while the boss screams in pain. Repeat every thirty seconds or faster with buffs.

I always wondered what I would be doing on the borderbus.

Probably get a lot of odd stares from the treasure hunters.

Inconsistancies Arise:
Haha... Yea.. That 'Ability' in that game does seem kinda funny when compared to the other characters ones.

Though my turret always dies way too quickly to actually deal damage.

Kodolb.:
K.. I'm gonna get the dude with the Turret then.

with my bird, I can one hit players my level, make enemies drop literally tons of items, namely money, and get health back from every bird attack. also, exploding artifacts/Acid artifacts.

then again, sniper has skills that decrease cool down for the bird ability, so add the damage upgrade and item/health loot upgrades and you could easily be the most annoying player around.

only better class IMO is of course Roland, his god damn turret, able to heal, give ammo, and generally ruin your day.

oh, and he can shoot you in your head and heal you..... cheater..........

I think the "bypass shields" skill (last in sniper tree) of Mordecai is just overkill. I mean, take the guardians. I one shot most, (with not the best weapons by far) the toughest taking three bullets ant thats about it.

I'm trying to play all the classes, and I tend to be all over the place with my abilities... I was only going to spec in the bloodwing tree for the faster reload skill..hmm.

Actually consider that Mordecai isn't just a sniper, he's more or less the game's "thief" character as well. The abillities on his Bloodwing allow it to increase drops and quality of drops, meaning that it's not just an attack but also basically an improve loot-magnet mechanic that exists to ensure that Modecai has more money/items/better gear than other characters at any given point in the campaign assuming he builds it up.

This is also a big part of why he would be welcome in groups, since he increases the loot produced. Defined that way his bird seems a little less cheezy, even if it isn't as lethal.

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Also:

I'm not sure if I'd consider Borderlands a "Rich Gameworld" it's pretty shallow, which isn't a big deal for the kind of game it is, but still I'm surprised to hear it praised on that level. I was hoping a sequel would actually round out the world because while it has the potential to be interesting, to me it seemed to lack substance.

For RL reasons this is another game I played shallowly, didn't get too far with, and mean to go back to (Thanks WoW!) but I *HAVE* played it, and while some of the NPCs are amusing there really isn't that much backround color, lore, or anything else. The game sort of reminds me sandbox sized Team Fortress 2 map. It seems like there should be a lot there, and your waiting for somene in the actual game to fill in the details... but really there isn't anything.

The world could have benefiteed from more RPG, some extra NPCs to have backround conversations and such and fill in little bits indirectly, more flavor characters, etc...

i smell a lawsuit
Chandra "Lilith" Nalaar

For me the bird doesn't do a lot of damage, but i went into the gunslinger tree. I am having a lot of trouble finding a good revolver though. I find a god damned SMG that auto-regens ammo with 50 bullets, 50 damage, and a nice orange name but i have yet to find a blue revolver or sniper in the last 10 levels. The SMG is awesome though, i never run out of ammo and i kill everything pretty easily, worth the 60,000.

Therumancer:
I'm not sure if I'd consider Borderlands a "Rich Gameworld" it's pretty shallow, which isn't a big deal for the kind of game it is, but still I'm surprised to hear it praised on that level. I was hoping a sequel would actually round out the world because while it has the potential to be interesting, to me it seemed to lack substance.

For RL reasons this is another game I played shallowly, didn't get too far with, and mean to go back to (Thanks WoW!) but I *HAVE* played it, and while some of the NPCs are amusing there really isn't that much backround color, lore, or anything else. The game sort of reminds me sandbox sized Team Fortress 2 map. It seems like there should be a lot there, and your waiting for somene in the actual game to fill in the details... but really there isn't anything.

The world could have benefiteed from more RPG, some extra NPCs to have backround conversations and such and fill in little bits indirectly, more flavor characters, etc...

The world is actually quite well fleshed out, between Patricia Tannis' audio journals and some of the quest dialogues.

It'll be interesting if future DLCs show what the planet is like in other areas that were colonised by other corporations. It's my firm belief that Marcus was originally working for Vladof (which I could see being covered in giant, Soviet-style factories), and when I think of Jacobs, my first thought is of cowboy-style wide open plains and motorbike-riding ranchers. I don't think they'd have Bandits either, because they seem to be directly linked to Dahl's operations.

But yeah, the entire plot is basically to explain why guns are there, and why you should kill people with them, but isn't that what all games boil down to? :P

I hate the damn bird. I can't join or host a game where i don't get 2 hunters as teammates that always have the 'extra loot' ability on him. you know how much lag it causes when loot is spraying everywhere cause of two hunters who are bird happy? damn near unplayable.

oppp7:
Which one of these guys is the guy on the box cover?

None... It's a Psycho (One of the enemies in the game)...

Haven't tried Mordecai, but he looks very interesting. Could be fun, despite his avian fetish. Will have to change my playstyle up, greatly....

...You see, I'm playing as Brick. When everything goes sidewise, the face punching begins. Especially with the mod to add fire damage. It is the best stress relief in a game I have ever played.

Funny comic, hopefully more Borderlands comics to follow?

i have to wait an extra 2 weeks for borderlands cuz my GPU wasnt compatible (its onboard) so im getting a new one for my B-day which is soon

Ninja Tank:
wish you could attach a laser to the bird's head

That gives me Dr. Evil tingles.
Of what I have seen of this game, including the intro that our friend Shamus gratiously linked to, I wish I could try it. I'm almost thinking potential for a nostalgic taste of Spacehunter: Adventures in the Forbidden Zone.
'Murderous Coward'....will have to remember that.

I must say the hawk was really not much of a surprise. (surely anyone who's played an rpg knows the hunter gets some sort of woodland chum) It does do a great deal of damage after some upgrades, but .. i really love the siren class a whole lot more ..

When i found a mercenary class mod that let me regen SMG ammo and upped the damage near 50% with the elemental upgrades and the phase walk left me laughing smugly as i burned/fried/detonated anything in my path

I laughed at this and then felt bad because I play a hunter.

Greyfox105:
Nice one. got a laugh out of that.
or maybe a midget-laugh... still a laugh...

heh, Mordecai is brilliant :D
he's meant to be the sniper, but I only ever find good shotguns...

i find that to get the weapon you want have it equipped.. if u want a sniper make sure you are holding a sniper rifle in your hand as you open a weapon crate..

what does everyone here listen to while playing this game?

I killed the game music after I realized that I only get to hear one track and only during heated gun battles.... I was playing hunter and I take my shots from distance... so I don't hear it that much or even use bloodwing that much. I got an elemental rifle that one kills everything and a pistol/assault rifle that practically blows away anything that comes up close and personal.

Anyway... I stream 101.9 RXP which is a classic and new alternative rock mixes. What do the rest of you do for music?

But....the bird does life leech. LIFE LEECH!

And it's great for kill ste-quickly thinning out mobs of enemies.

every ability is used as reason why each caracter has different benefits, because everyone can use all guns and everyone can use melee attack. bloodwing does hundreds of damage and brings additional items, but i only shaped it throught half the middle path(lvl 16). it doesn't matter which weapon is prefered by character, every type has it's levels(aka proficiencies under the "P" key). I advice you not to use handguns, revolers nor smgs, because shotguns, snipers, assaults and launchers are ahead since start.

Yeah, bloodwing is rather underpowered

Later on, the bird is only good upgraded anyway. Though it's satisfying seeing enemies explode from being attacked by a fiery bird.

oppp7:
Which one of these guys is the guy on the box cover?

They have an enemy known as the psycho on the cover.

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