Escape to the Movies: New Moon

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DemonicKitten:

Trivun:

slopeslider:
New Moon sucks. Im suprised so many older teens and college girls go for this stuff.

I do and I'm a nineteen year old guy. I was planning to see it tonight except a friend (also a guy) who saw it last night said that although it was decent, the amount of screaming fangirls made it less enjoyable, so I may wait until an adult screening is done at the local cinema (i.e. 18 and over only). Have you actually seen it, or made an attempt to see it? If so then your opinion is fair and noted. If you haven't made an attempt to see it then what right do you have to criticise it?

And yes, I do like things like Dracula as well. I simply don't agree that Twilight 'ruined' vampires. Although for all the things I like about the series, I still don't like the 'sparkly' vampires idea.

Yes i love this post... finally someone who thinks like me... Im going to see the movie next weekend when the fuss has died down a bit... Now im able to drag my boyfriend if he is aloud and so there will be 4 of us going. I love the books, love Twilight movie (not one of my favourites though as such), and really am dying to see New Moon :)

It's brilliant that somebody here seems to agree with me, given that the majority of the thread is full of people who have confessed openly that they won't touch the films or books with a bargepole because they've heard how shit they are, yet proceed to proclaim their own hate for the series with absolutely no actual backing to support their own personal opinion. I've done a review on New Moon if you're interested, here's the link:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.156750#3863552

Hopefully people will read it and realise that not all of us fans are screaming 14 year old girls with no self esteem or brains. Some of us are actually sensible people who happen to like a franchise about 'vegetarian' vampires...

On a bit of a side topic. Since I have no interest (nor hate, by the way, just no interest) in Twilight or anything Twilight-related, can somebody point me to a clip of a vampire actually sparkling in the movies?

If I understand correctly, the books sidestep the whole "vampires die in sunlight" by having them... sparkle instead? People seem to find that amusing, leading to a high number of internet rants, jokes and parodies... but I haven't seen an actual instance of this in the movies, so I couldn't tell if they just kind of shine in a classy manner or glimmer like a disco ball.

So, video reference, anyone?

Nice work Bob! And Congratulations on getting the video sidebar! I actually had made a comment about that a few days ago.

RoseBridge:

DaBozz:
One word, ditch this shit and watch hellsing if you want REAL vampires.

yeah thats true, but isn't Twilight supposed to be a romance movie? so comparing them doesn't make sense except that their are vampires in both.

Yeah, like Zen said theres other romance/vampire animes out there. but my point is the vampires in twilight suck, I mean put Alucard in a room with Edward and Alucard would rip that wannabe vampire limb from limb. and new moon seems to be focusing on the vampire part of the story more than the romance from what bob said.

Aptus:
I would rather watch a 12 hour porno directed by Uwe Boll and starring a platypus and a wheelchair than go anywhere near this piece of shit franchise.

..ehh..wow. That's graphic, my friend. Terribly graphic D:

he could read all 4 books!?! i couldn't even make it past the first chapter...

I'm not really into the whole, twilight hating, but I did watch the first one, although not to the credits, it was pretty average, I've seen worse, the only thing I didn't like was that the apparent weakness of being a vampire is...sparkly, and that the freaking werewolves are just oversize regular wolves, I like the van helsing/underworld werewolves a lot better.

Haven't read the books but there must be something about them, since the popularity is through the roof.

Noelveiga:
On a bit of a side topic. Since I have no interest (nor hate, by the way, just no interest) in Twilight or anything Twilight-related, can somebody point me to a clip of a vampire actually sparkling in the movies?

If I understand correctly, the books sidestep the whole "vampires die in sunlight" by having them... sparkle instead? People seem to find that amusing, leading to a high number of internet rants, jokes and parodies... but I haven't seen an actual instance of this in the movies, so I couldn't tell if they just kind of shine in a classy manner or glimmer like a disco ball.

So, video reference, anyone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU4_zpoXA38

it begins at 2:40

DayDark:

Noelveiga:
On a bit of a side topic. Since I have no interest (nor hate, by the way, just no interest) in Twilight or anything Twilight-related, can somebody point me to a clip of a vampire actually sparkling in the movies?

If I understand correctly, the books sidestep the whole "vampires die in sunlight" by having them... sparkle instead? People seem to find that amusing, leading to a high number of internet rants, jokes and parodies... but I haven't seen an actual instance of this in the movies, so I couldn't tell if they just kind of shine in a classy manner or glimmer like a disco ball.

So, video reference, anyone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU4_zpoXA38

it begins at 2:40

Holy crap.

I swear I have no grudge with this, but a) it IS disco ball glitter and b) "You are beautiful" - "¿Beautiful? This is the skin of a killer" has to be the worst dialogue I've heard since "All your base are belong to us".

I believe the term is "on the nose". On the nose of pinocchio up the whale's ass.

EDIT: BTW, I swear this clip is my very first exposure to this. I hadn't as much as seen a trailer or read a paragraph. I am so not trolling here.

EcksTeaSea:

VanityGirl:
I saw it today. It was pretty bad.
The only good thing in the movie was the vampire fights and the werewolf fights.

So basically, I just liked seeing people get the crap beat out of them.

I think you would enjoy Fight Club if you haven't seen it yet.

OT: Glad to know I can sleep through it if I ever have to go see it in theaters. Was going to anyways, but the reinforcement is nice.

Of course I've seen Fight Club. It's a beautiful cult movie, I love the concept.
I try to watch as many movies as I can so that I can add to discussions my friends/other people may have.

I also enjoyed 300 because it was violent and awesome.

But that's not even on topic

qazmatoz:
The bleeping is terribly annoying.

Tis.. Surely swearing should be allowed

brumby:

qazmatoz:
The bleeping is terribly annoying.

Tis.. Surely swearing should be allowed

I'm hoping the staff have seen that enough people are annoyed by it to warrant some manner of response+explanation to us all?

That said, great review as always. Though I remain to stay as far away as I can from twishite.

Three reasons why you might hate twilight:
1. You've read the books
2. You've Seen the films
3. You've met the fans

I think I'm going to remain single for the next 3-4 years soley to avoid ever potentialy being dragged to this bullshit.

Trivun:

slopeslider:
New Moon sucks. Im suprised so many older teens and college girls go for this stuff.

I do and I'm a nineteen year old guy. I was planning to see it tonight except a friend (also a guy) who saw it last night said that although it was decent, the amount of screaming fangirls made it less enjoyable, so I may wait until an adult screening is done at the local cinema (i.e. 18 and over only). Have you actually seen it, or made an attempt to see it? If so then your opinion is fair and noted. If you haven't made an attempt to see it then what right do you have to criticise it?

And yes, I do like things like Dracula as well. I simply don't agree that Twilight 'ruined' vampires. Although for all the things I like about the series, I still don't like the 'sparkly' vampires idea.

See, I've read the books, and watched the frist movie. I used to think just like you, but you must admit, all this hype and fanbase is ruining it, because frankly, it isn't that good. However, I will try to sit through this new movie, but only for one reason, New Moon was my favorite from the series, but thats because I'm a Werewolf Buff.

Aptus:
I would rather watch a 12 hour porno directed by Uwe Boll and starring a platypus and a wheelchair than go anywhere near this piece of shit franchise.

.....damn, seriously if that actually happened it probably become his most popular work simply for the concept.

I take it you didn't like it then, MovieBob?

And now that it does load for me, I've just stopped it less than half the way through, because all the bleeping is just FUCKING annoying. (And not, in fact, F%@&ING annoying.) My god man, if you're going to censor yourself, rather than, I don't know, not swear in the first place, then at least censor it with a slightly less annoying beep, or even better, silence. This is just unbearable.

skywalkerlion:

Aptus:
I would rather watch a 12 hour porno directed by Uwe Boll and starring a platypus and a wheelchair than go anywhere near this piece of shit franchise.

..ehh..wow. That's graphic, my friend. Terribly graphic D:

Quick warning, don't do what I did and actually try to think about it in detail. It... scarred me.

-Zen-:

RoseBridge:

DaBozz:
One word, ditch this shit and watch hellsing if you want REAL vampires.

yeah thats true, but isn't Twilight supposed to be a romance movie? so comparing them doesn't make sense except that their are vampires in both.

I have an alternative: Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust. The relationship between Charlotte and Meier is far deeper and more authentic than the one between Ed and Bella, which is funny considering that it's an action movie, and not a romantic drama.

Couldn't agree more. As far as I'm concerned, Vampire Hunter D and Coppola's Dracula (yeah, it had its shortcomings, but Gary Oldman was as monstrous as vampires should get) were the last ones to really understand the underlying aesop that a vampire movie should convey. Hell, even that recent horror flick, 30 Days of Night, managed to make vampires monsters.

So, it's possible, but due to unreasonable fangirliness, financially ill-advised to do a hardcore monster film. You're better off just making them handsome horny teenagers.

I mean, I liked the first Twilight movie (I never read the books, it just wasn't as bad as everyone claimed and the music was pretty good), but it set an extremely dangerous precedent that movies LIKE THAT are supposed to be successful. God, I'd rather see greedy filmmakers latch onto the Wanted-Transporter-bandwagon than this vampire romance thing. At least then the cheapness would make sense. And you'd get to see some skin.

qazmatoz:
The bleeping is terribly annoying.

Yeah I fucking know. Seriously Escapist stop with the fucking censoring of all the fucking swear words. We're all mature here (with the exception of the people who say first in Yahtzee videos) so stop being a little bitch and let the man swear. I find it pretty weak that that's as much profanity as I can think of to put into this post.

P.S. I sincerely apologise if this isn't actually the Escapists decision and is actually Mr. Bobs decision. In that case, man up you pussy.

Went to see this with my friend cause she cried until I did. I slowly turned prison gay thanks to half naked wolf-boys and I realized I hat my friends. Thank you twilight saga!

Ah yes,,,,new moon...Ok well i took my girlfriend to see it and met somefriends(all girls)there. Well let men start of by saying not a fan of this particular franchise but my girl is along with what seems to be the entire female population. I have seen the 1st one and could have cared less if they had made the second one. Now.....the movie itself wasn't to horrible. One HUGE reason is cuz the "sparkling" dude is missing through like half the movie(always a good thing) and it focuses in on the chick and the wolf dude. It could of been better....much better but it could have also been worse, a lot worse. If u don't like sparkly man there is a scene where he gets his ass handed to him...BAD..Fucking great. I love it. N e ways movie was blah but could of been fucking blah. 1 bad thing.....screaming fan gurls. WTF!

nathan-dts:

qazmatoz:
The bleeping is terribly annoying.

Yeah I fucking know. Seriously Escapist stop with the fucking censoring of all the fucking swear words. We're all mature here (with the exception of the people who say first in Yahtzee videos) so stop being a little bitch and let the man swear. I find it pretty weak that that's as much profanity as I can think of to put into this post.

P.S. I sincerely apologise if this isn't actually the Escapists decision and is actually Mr. Bobs decision. In that case, man up you pussy.

It's Bob's I think, all other shows can curse but he just does it for humor I think. Yahtzee said in a podcast one time does The Escapist want him to turn down the language a bit, they replied with a simple email saying "No.". So it's all Bob when it comes to language.

New Moon sucked. Did anyone ever tought it was going to be good in the first place giving the shittines of the first movie?

Stephenie Meyer is also full of crap. I can't believe anyone could actually read her "novels" and not feel the need to burn them.

Good but......Why are you censoring yourself?

Basically said what I tell everyone who tries to tell me it's either
A. Well written (It's £%^&@#> isn't!)
B. Has a good storyline (Vampires that DON'T suck blood?!)

Twilight and all it's sequels are awful. Yes i've read them, and i want that sad part of my life back.

DON'T READ THEM!!

-Zen-:

RoseBridge:

DaBozz:
One word, ditch this shit and watch hellsing if you want REAL vampires.

yeah thats true, but isn't Twilight supposed to be a romance movie? so comparing them doesn't make sense except that their are vampires in both.

I have an alternative: Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust. The relationship between Charlotte and Meier is far deeper and more authentic than the one between Ed and Bella, which is funny considering that it's an action movie, and not a romantic drama.

Again true but thats assuming these people would watch an anime.

I can't wait to see Rifftrax make fun of this film. I will then watch it :)

I'm aware, and scrolling through the replies, growing more and more aware that most if not all the people talking about this (movies, books, etc.) are male. And by the very definition of this series being a romance, men are 90% more likely NOT to like it. simple facts...
I don't appreciate the boxes that people are trying to put this movie and this book series in.
As far as the review specifically, you mention Stephenie Meyer's chosen profession, and as I'm sure you haven't done any research on her or the series past reading/bashing them, I'll give you a little insight. Mrs. Meyer's "chosen profession" was stay at home mom. (yeah bet ya didn't know that) She had a dream one night (won't go in depth) that she wanted to remember so she wrote it down (chapter 13 of Twilight). From there, she just kept writing, she never went to school to be a writer, she never intended on being a writer, so YES her writing style isn't popular among so called "avid" readers or even more "basic" readers... That doesn't stop the books from being enthralling.
And here is where people are going to flip the shit... NO Twilight was not a "Perfect" movie... but when you already love the series you want to see it put to film, even if it could have been done better, you love the movie.
There is so much more I want to say, but I'm going to end with this. You talk about these actors (Pattinson, Stewart, Lautner) and you say that they'll have to live with the fact that they were in this series for years. You have it backwards, how much money, how much fame they are getting for having the opportunity to be a part of a World-Wide phenomenon. People are wanting them for their movies more and more already. I know it may be hard to understand when you don't even put your face on camera when you are bashing wonderful people/actors/movies...
And I hate this even more, cause generally I like your reviews, they are helpful; but when you come of so obviously attacking something, because you don't understand or whatever, it makes you seem like a dick. I'm not saying you have to like the movie, but you can't just say it sucks because it wasn't your cup of tea. (sorry for the rant)

I think this was probably one of the more funnier episodes XD partly because of all the swearing lol

Great review, good that fucking SOMEONE can see this is complete crap.

But i gotta ask... what the hell is up with the bleeping on your swearing.

thank you so freakin much
for stating the obvious statement that this movie blows chunks
i am so glad i was working last night so i could not be dragged to that with one of my friends
take into consideration that i do not see her enough and i should hang out with her more but spending time with her while seeing this bullshit is not quality time.

AliciaPeck:
STUFF

Wait, wait, wait.

So your excuse for the books being crap is that the writer is illiterate?

That she can't write? That she never tried to learn how to write? That she just had a dream one day (I hear some other people have dreams quite regularly) and she started clumsily writing on top of that?

That only makes the books fan fiction. It doesn't make them more acceptable at all. If anything, it makes me want a damn good explanation of why this lady got her self-made porn published while other people who work on improving their craft for decades fail to land a book deal.

That "everyday person against the cruel elites" shit might fly with Sarah Palin advocates in the US, but I like to think that around here we believe education is actually a good thing.

And for the record, I have a functional Y chromosome and I absolutely love well done romance. My favourite film ever is The Apartment. I love classic romantic comedy. I love Casablanca. I don't think scholars analyizing Romeo & Juliet question the viability of the story with the young male demographics, and I don't see young males claim that Shakespeare "sucked" because that "romance crap is boring".

AliciaPeck:
I And by the very definition of this series being a romance, men are 90% more likely NOT to like it. simple facts...

I don't appreciate the boxes that people are trying to put this movie and this book series in.

No, no, no, no boxes here...Men HATE romance. That's why 90% of men don't play games where you can rescue a Princess, or go along with Alyx or Cortana...

Perhaps you should look at the fact that Robert Pattison is thinking of quitting acting because he's surrounded by these crazed women so much that he can't lead a normal life?

She had a dream one night (won't go in depth) that she wanted to remember so she wrote it down (chapter 13 of Twilight). From there, she just kept writing, she never went to school to be a writer, she never intended on being a writer,

And J.K.Rowling was a working mum who wrote Harry Potter for her kids while "struggling" on the dole. And Paris Hilton never had a push other than her video. And the moon is made of green cheese.

Her publicists must love you. You're doing their job for free.

You love the movie even though you admit it's bad. Doesn't that worry you at all?

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