Stolen Pixels #148: Dragon Aged

 Pages PREV 1 2
 

lols, yeah same story in oblivion as well =P, when will videogame designers realize that not every female charater in a game has to be a super model...just f-ing make a normal old lady for cryin out loud!

Areck:

Pararaptor:
I remember seeing a Fallout 3 mod that made every woman in the game nude, but came with the option of putting bags over the heads of the old ones.
Laughed hard at that one.

Areck:
funny. Screw logic, this is DnD people.

That was Dragon Age: Origins. Not Dungeons & Dragons.
Or am I just a massive noob?

Dungeons and Dragons can be described as a type of rpg, no idea if Dragon age is using any rule sets but it was made by Bioware so it probably is.

Dragon Age: Origins does NOT use the D&D rule set. They made their own.

Wow did her designers ever screw up. Unless that was the way she was supposed to look in which case somebody else really dropped the ball. Or it could be a joke about the average life-span in the time period in which someone screwed up the delivery of said joke. Oh well, I'm never going to find out because I doubt I'll ever play this game.

Miki91:

DTWolfwood:
If only women actually aged like this, i'd sure be a happy man ;)

Wouldn't hurt if men aged like her too...

Dye her hair brown and she look younger than me damn it!

Well in all fairness, all the old men in DA are pretty ripped underneath those clothes.

Blackbird71:

Starke:

Therumancer:

Virgil:

Areck:
Dungeons and Dragons can be described as a type of rpg, no idea if Dragon age is using any rule sets but it was made by Bioware so it probably is.

It's not. Like Mass Effect, it's their own unique property.

Actually, fairly early on I could have sworn that someone mentioned that this game was somehow connected to the writings of the guy "The Witcher" was based on and while it deviated it was a borderline liscenced property.

Never heard anything else about it, but it was around the time some people were talking about the vague similarities between say Witchers and Gray Wardens, general attitude on magic, and some other superficial stuff.

Probably nothing, but I do remember hearing something like that.

Well, The Witcher is running on the same engine as the original Neverwinter Nights (Aurora) (heavily updated, but still).

Dragon Age was billed as a spiritual sucessor to Neverwinter Nights Baldur's Gate 2, though it was never going to use the same system.

There is some common ancestry, but as far as I can remember, Dragon Age was never meant to be a licensed title.

Fixed. DA was never intended to have anything to do with NWN. For that matter, they used the term "spiritual successor" pretty loosely.

Back in... god, 2004? They were calling it a spiritual sucessor to Neverwinter Nights, not Baldur's Gate, the changed their tune after a little while, but that was the original tie between them. Dragon Age was going to be a multiplayer game system with a "robust" tile based engine. A couple features they plugged early on were tiles over tiles, (I'm not sure if that stuck or not), and massive numbers of units on screen at a time. (Which did stick for the cutscenes but didn't get implemented in game.)

EDIT: There's this article from 2004 http://pc.ign.com/articles/514/514514p1.html that backs you up, so it's more likely I'm remembering someone on the forums going off reservation about the game. Or they may have been refering to the toolset exclusivly.

Ell Jay:
Chalk that up as one more thing KOTOR 2 got right: an old-looking old woman. Of course, presentation as such was expedited by the fact you could NOT change her outfit no matter what...

KotoR 2 had issues when it came to the female bodies. I think there were only three body types that changed depending on the outfit they wore. The Exile which shared the same model as Mira, the Handmaiden who had the most "Babe"-like body, Visas whose outfit would change with Armors but not with Robes and Kriea who's outfit never changed but could only wear Robes and no armors.

Don't even get me started Bao-Dur and his "Unable to wear any force-sensitive armor or Robes due to his cybernetic arm" which made no sense.

I liked KotoR 2, I hated that it was so unpolished and half-finishied.

As a side note did you notice in Mass Effect all of the "Human" female bodies had exactly the same figure and a very slim one at that? Graned it also looked like everyone wore clothes and armor that looked spray painted on, but that's another rant.

PiCroft:

Jaranja:

PiCroft:
I just looked up the voice actor list

Holy shit, I had no idea Tim Curry was in it, nor Simon Templeman, nor Claudia Black.

I am going to buy it, play it, and wait till Loghain starts talking before allowing myself to be mesmerised by his awesome voice.

Too bad he's a massive dick.

That's okay. If I were gay, Simon Templeman would be the only man in the world I would hypothetically marry, besides Michael Bell.

If I was gay, I would slap fight duel you for their hand(s)...

Deathlyphil:

quiet_samurai:
Oh I totally wished Wynn could have been an achievable romance. I tried, but alas... not successful. It's cool though, I totally 2 timed Morrigen and Lilliana.

also

Yes. Or at least I knew that something was going to happen and it wasn't going to be good...

Same here. He was presented as a villain from the get-go. Classic evil eyes and demeanor.

Most characters of any race and gender use a generic body type. If one plays First Enchanter Irving in the Fade, one might try taking off his robes to see the Kevin Sorbo as Hercules thing he has going on underneath them.

Why is it that only the 'Kents' and the barkeep in Redcliffe have unique bodies?
Elder Scrolls 4 has the exact same problem (if you see it as a problem). The only body in swords-and-sorcery games settings seems to be the 'fit/active' one. That seems like a horrible over-sight when gamemakers know that people like making fragile squishy wizards and other non-Doc Samson type thinking heroes in those very same settings.

It looks like that little over-the-top crime farce, Saint's Row 2, still holds the crown for best character customization of this console generation.

Oh well, maybe some PC modder will get this squared away.

So Shamus would prefer the appropriate body of a...60 year-old to go along with that robe?
I'm glad it's the way it is.

Russian_Assassin:
o.o

I gave her this outfit once, but it fucking ruined her, so I switched back to the senior enchanter robes. At least that way I can convince myself she is old!

Yes! Same thing with me.

Games like this are all about illusion anyway.

- Make yourself 'believe' your teammates are as complex as real people.
- Make yourself believe Ferelden is a 'whole' world, not just a few locations with lines drawn between them.
- Make yourself believe your elf has a different character when he/she grew up in the woods than your dwarf who grew up as a prince in an underground city.

Of course, you can't make yourself really believe this kind of stuff, not when your mentally healthy that is, but when you're in the middle of the game you wll 'forget' everything that gets you out of the game. That's what makes games like this fun.

Not that it's not funny to think about something like this when you're done with the game, of course.

Where did you find that outfit? I think I'll give it to Morrigan if I find it.

chickenlord:
lols, yeah same story in oblivion as well =P, when will videogame designers realize that not every female charater in a game has to be a super model...just f-ing make a normal old lady for cryin out loud!

Really? I thought EVERYONE in oblivion was ugly. The hell is with elves and that stupid haircut? You know the one. They have their hair greased back so you can see as much of their forehead as possible. Is the size of your forehead some kind of sign of stature in Tamriel?

feather240:

chickenlord:
lols, yeah same story in oblivion as well =P, when will videogame designers realize that not every female charater in a game has to be a super model...just f-ing make a normal old lady for cryin out loud!

Really? I thought EVERYONE in oblivion was ugly. The hell is with elves and that stupid haircut? You know the one. They have their hair greased back so you can see as much of their forehead as possible. Is the size of your forehead some kind of sign of stature in Tamriel?

possibly... =P yeah, if/when they make 5 i hope they make that people better looking...

Pretty much all of the females had, essentially, the same body. I think I saw, like, one over-weight woman.

Ah the hilariousness of being able to age the face but not the stock body...

Funny...she always complained about being old...then give her better armor and she's young again...

OrionKurnous:
Pretty much all of the females had, essentially, the same body. I think I saw, like, one over-weight woman.

The males all have the same body as well. The Ferelden equivalents of Ma and Pa Kent, Lloyd and maybe the BroodMother if she even counts are the only chubby people that I saw in the game and all three of the humans in that group are bit parts while the other is a one-time deal monster.
Oblivion, the GodFather, Mass Effect and plenty other games with character customization do this, as pointed out previously.
Is this a good reason not to use the same random character generator on all of the characters to save on disk space or a minor gripe?

PiCroft:
I just looked up the voice actor list

Holy shit, I had no idea Tim Curry was in it, nor Simon Templeman, nor Claudia Black.

I am going to buy it, play it, and wait till Loghain starts talking before allowing myself to be mesmerised by his awesome voice.

Seriously. The voice acting is excellent in Dragon Age. It's probably sad that I think it's the first RPG I've ever played that actually has authentic english dialect, over quite a few regions in fact.

Angerwing:
Zevran the Assassin tends to agree with this.

Wynne: Zevran, I'm old enough to be your grandmother!
Zevran: You say that as if it's a bad thing.

Then 2 hours later he started hitting on my male dwarf.

Look at the achievments also, you can shag Alistar. EWWWW.

Ah well, Must mean the ancient times had a better health program...sayung that she is a healer..

Patrick_and_the_ricks:

Angerwing:
Zevran the Assassin tends to agree with this.

Wynne: Zevran, I'm old enough to be your grandmother!
Zevran: You say that as if it's a bad thing.

Then 2 hours later he started hitting on my male dwarf.

Look at the achievments also, you can shag Alistar. EWWWW.

To be fair, you DO have to play as a female to get that achievement.

Virgil:

No chainmail bikini's though.

Good reason too. Those things bunch up on the nads REALLY bad.

...

Don't you dare judge me. I was curious and they were on sale.

too bad you cant throw morrigans robes on her xD
but that would just be horrible.. in a good way?

Raithnor:

I liked KotoR 2, I hated that it was so unpolished and half-finished.

I don't think I can put it any better than this (paraphrased) quote I once saw posted in another forum: "KOTOR 2 is like my ex-girlfriend. I just want to love it so much but it just keeps hurting me so badly."

LMFAO. I started out as a human noble and found my characters mom pretty hot for an old lady. then i noticed that the trend didnt stop there. I was hoping i could get my character to bone the old mage chick who joins up with the party in the mages tower but it was not so.

I feel awful for this but... what is that outfit?

dirt_empire:
I feel awful for this but... what is that outfit?

I'm pretty sure those are Ashleen robes, which you (may have) found while out collecting darkspawn blood in the Ostagar section, provided you did one of the sidequests of course.

Hmm... Okies. I'm still running through the game again and again so maybe I will find them. They just looked odd is all, something more to be found in Oblivion and not DA. Thank you!

Thank you!

Well, it's Bioware.

 Pages PREV 1 2

Reply to Thread

Log in or Register to Comment
Have an account? Login below:
With Facebook:Login With Facebook
or
Username:  
Password:  
  
Not registered? To sign up for an account with The Escapist:
Register With Facebook
Register With Facebook
or
Register for a free account here