Demon's Souls

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Am I the only one getting a 404 error when trying to read it?\

Edit: ...How did I end up ABOVE the article post?

lordlee:
Am I the only one getting a 404 error when trying to read it?\

Edit: ...How did I end up ABOVE the article post?

Same. And well done for posting a time travelling comment!

Server error, or crazy time paradox? Quick, find out today's lottery numbers!

The doctor who song just started playing in my head. Oh man now i see a swirling vortex of clocks and colors. :D

Noooo! The world is ending!

Oh wait, it's fixed. OT: Michael Atkinson can go suck on ice!

Still getting the error...

Hey... has anyone else noticed that Yahtzee's post is at 5pm?

As in 1 hour from now?

That would explain why our posts are going above his.

I hazard a guess that it's set to post itself at 5pm (along with the article) and that come 5 o clock the link will be fixed

NOOOOO.
Now ill have to wait longer to read his snarky comments.
heh

Did someone divide by zero? Is that why it's all fucked up?

/still 404ing

thank you yahtzee

Yahtzee Croshaw:
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The problem with Demon's Souls isn't that it's hard, but that it purposefully wastes player's time.

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EDIT: DAMN, link is broken.

This has happened before you guys. It's a simple server error, you'll just have to wait until it gets fixed.

Oh god, the universe is imploding!
either that or a server error
>_>

Either that or Yahtzee finally found a way to travel through the space time continuum.

it's a meta-joke.

"The problem with Demon's Souls isn't that it's hard, but that it purposefully wastes player's time."

he's deliberately wasting our time to make a point. that it's not worth the time and effort of f5-ing and that we could be doing more productive things instead of punishing ourselves waiting for the article.

or, you know, it's just a server problem.

it's 1 second out of sync with the rest of the universe. perfect hiding place...tiny little pocket of time.

paterasilk:
it's a meta-joke.

"The problem with Demon's Souls isn't that it's hard, but that it purposefully wastes player's time."

he's deliberately wasting our time to make a point. that it's not worth the time and effort of f5-ing and that we could be doing more productive things instead of punishing ourselves waiting for the article.

or, you know, it's just a server problem.

Probably Yahtzee proving a point.

So, what happens when the article actually goes live? Will we all be banned for posting before even the first real post can be made, all because someone divided by zero somewhere?

Demon's Souls

The problem with Demon's Souls isn't that it's hard, but that it purposefully wastes player's time.

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I found the article both intriguing and sophisticated, an interesting take on some of the key issues facing today's gaming industry and introduces groundbreaking new ideas that could change the way games are made forever.

Nah, I'm 404ing too.

Do the rest of you see his post at the bottom of the page?

Oh, nevermind it works now. It is encouraging to know that Yahtzee played IWBTG, makes me feel less like my parents never loved me.

It's fixed. The article has raised good points. But then again, video games are a major time waster. It would be trying to deny television is a time waster.

I'm going to spam micheal atkinson now.

croydon@parliament.sa.gov.au

Y'know, just from reading all the idiotic things Atkinson has said, I'm half-tempted to send him an e-mail now and rub his own stupidity in his face from half a world away. Of course, I don't know how well that'd go over.

Good article. And if it was a joke, then I applaud you. I was well and truly had.

I can totally see the point of the fine line between challenging and just provoking frustration, and seriously, varying difficulty levels can't be that hard to put in to a game can they?

And now I get to email Michael Atkinson the entire Offended page from Encyclopedia Dramatica, good times.

Interesting article...
You're still a pussy though. :)

Nice call on the email address. I'm going to email him now.

Very good article Yahtzee, I always agreed that there is a fine line between a reasonable challenge and just making the game harder to purposely frustrate the player. I'm sorry to hear about all the douchebags that emailed you, some fanboys don't know when to sympathize with the reviewer.

Also that is a big bummer for Shattered Memories and the other Feb '10 releases.

Lastly, LOL at Michael Atkinson's email, he's probably going to get overspammed within the next few days.

That was brilliant. Cant say I disagree...

I also understand why he is so evil...he has Croydon in his address! Im going to E-mail him :D

Yahtzee Croshaw:
Extra Punctuation: Demon's Souls

The problem with Demon's Souls isn't that it's hard, but that it purposefully wastes player's time.

Read Full Article

ahaha, I am, in fact, quite proud of my letter:

Subject: Legal Question on Acquiring Public-Affairs Permit

Greetings Mr. Atkinson,

I was wondering what the legal process would be for reserving a large area on public property in order to hold a community event. This year, the C.F.L.D.C will be hosting a rousing book-burning on the lawn of city hall. Coincidentally we will also be going through several works of world literature and drawing giant black Xes on anything that might make someone feel uncomfortable. We will then proceed to censor all other great works of cinema and video gaming and make sure that all incidences of violence, sex, or creativity are replaced by unicorns and rainbows. After all, how would children know about violence if we never TELL them? This is why times in the past pre-videogaming were so idyllic (Ah, to live again in the halcyon days of the dark ages, world wars, and near-nuclear annihilation!) This has clearly been shown to drastically reduce all manner of violent crime and deviant behavior in society (please ignore all those fancy "Scientists" and "Statisticians" in their ivory towers whose libertine "Scientific Methods" of study have found no such link whatsoever and claimed the media is merely scapegoating as a way of avoiding any analysis of serious sociological issues.) I applaud your continued resistance against public opinion and the concept of free speech. It is good to see that someone at least cares about the messages we pass on to our children

Sincerely,

- Walter A. Silveira
Chairman of the C.F.L.D.C (Censorship and Fascist Luddite Douchebags Committee)

P.S. Don't you just LOVE the game Yahtzee?

i do wish you would write more often, i love your writing and i find it to be superior to ZP, really looking forward to your novel, and as any other escapist sheep i agree whit most of it.

LordWalter:

Yahtzee Croshaw:
Extra Punctuation: Demon's Souls

The problem with Demon's Souls isn't that it's hard, but that it purposefully wastes player's time.

Read Full Article

ahaha, I am, in fact, quite proud of my letter:

Subject: Legal Question on Acquiring Public-Affairs Permit

Greetings Mr. Atkinson,

I was wondering what the legal process would be for reserving a large area on public property in order to hold a community event. This year, the C.F.L.D.C will be hosting a rousing book-burning on the lawn of city hall. Coincidentally we will also be going through several works of world literature and drawing giant black Xes on anything that might make someone feel uncomfortable. We will then proceed to censor all other great works of cinema and video gaming and make sure that all incidences of violence, sex, or creativity are replaced by unicorns and rainbows. After all, how would children know about violence if we never TELL them? This is why times in the past pre-videogaming were so idyllic (Ah, to live again in the halcyon days of the dark ages, world wars, and near-nuclear annihilation!) This has clearly been shown to drastically reduce all manner of violent crime and deviant behavior in society (please ignore all those fancy "Scientists" and "Statisticians" in their ivory towers whose libertine "Scientific Methods" of study have found no such link whatsoever and claimed the media is merely scapegoating as a way of avoiding any analysis of serious sociological issues.) I applaud your continued resistance against public opinion and the concept of free speech. It is good to see that someone at least cares about the messages we pass on to our children

Sincerely,

- Walter A. Silveira
Chairman of the C.F.L.D.C (Censorship and Fascist Luddite Douchebags Committee)

P.S. Don't you just LOVE the game Yahtzee?

EPIC!! my email wasn't nearly as good as yours.

Unfortunately, someone can delete e-mails.

People, however, cannot delete Actual Mail.

LordWalter:

Yahtzee Croshaw:
Extra Punctuation: Demon's Souls

The problem with Demon's Souls isn't that it's hard, but that it purposefully wastes player's time.

Read Full Article

ahaha, I am, in fact, quite proud of my letter:

Subject: Legal Question on Acquiring Public-Affairs Permit

Greetings Mr. Atkinson,

I was wondering what the legal process would be for reserving a large area on public property in order to hold a community event. This year, the C.F.L.D.C will be hosting a rousing book-burning on the lawn of city hall. Coincidentally we will also be going through several works of world literature and drawing giant black Xes on anything that might make someone feel uncomfortable. We will then proceed to censor all other great works of cinema and video gaming and make sure that all incidences of violence, sex, or creativity are replaced by unicorns and rainbows. After all, how would children know about violence if we never TELL them? This is why times in the past pre-videogaming were so idyllic (Ah, to live again in the halcyon days of the dark ages, world wars, and near-nuclear annihilation!) This has clearly been shown to drastically reduce all manner of violent crime and deviant behavior in society (please ignore all those fancy "Scientists" and "Statisticians" in their ivory towers whose libertine "Scientific Methods" of study have found no such link whatsoever and claimed the media is merely scapegoating as a way of avoiding any analysis of serious sociological issues.) I applaud your continued resistance against public opinion and the concept of free speech. It is good to see that someone at least cares about the messages we pass on to our children

Sincerely,

- Walter A. Silveira
Chairman of the C.F.L.D.C (Censorship and Fascist Luddite Douchebags Committee)

P.S. Don't you just LOVE the game Yahtzee?

Damn. Mine wasn't nearly as creative. Though my only goal was to just add another entry into his inbox.

I think there's something major here - the difference between being hard, and wasting the player's time. This is actually something I've written about recently: Test Skills, Not Patience: Challenge, Punishment, and Learning

The way I see it, the fun hard part is 'challenge' and the time-wastey part is 'punishment.' They are distinct and where we get into trouble is when people just lump them together as 'difficulty.' Yahtzee's IWBTG example is a perfect illustration of high challenge with low punishment - fun - compared against Demon's Souls high challenge with high punishment - frustrating.

And as long as I'm plugging my own blog, I'll mention that I also wrote recently about the accessibility issue and the importance of having an "easy" mode: In Praise of Easy: Lowering the Barrier to Entry

I can't wait to see how Atkinson responds to this one...probably by trying to run Yahtzee out of Australia.

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