Escape to the Movies: Sherlock Holmes

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Tdc2182:
I think what he ment by the two batmans was

No, it was about the obvious sequel.

You know, at the end of Begins all signs point to a Joker sequel, which in turn was incredibly successful. Strangely, he didn't mention Casino Royale as it did the same at its finale, although Quantum of Solace was nowhere near as good as the first.

Hmmm, well, its been that I'd thought it'd be - I presumed they'd just taking a Sherlock Holmes theme and pasted it over Generic Action Movie #1200232159.

Might be worth seeing, I think.

Interesting. I thought Holmes was addicted to heroin tho. And I don't have that confused with Robert Downy Jr. haha

Eh, I guess I will see this if anyone wants to go with. Although i am curious about the relation between the batman movies... I'll be thinking about that one

Seriously this is Dr House as a movie. They should have casted Hugh Laurie as Holmes since he has a great deal of experience with playing ... well Holmes/House.

Spitfire175:
It's a horrible adaptation of Holmes. It's an American action flick pretending to be something the director had no idea about. Usually I agree with Moviebob, but definitely not now.

Ditto.
I also don't get Moviebob's comment about how Downey's Holmes is first explore the undiagnosed OCD side in him. Humbug!

mptothedc:
Interesting. I thought Holmes was addicted to heroin tho.

It was cocaine, mostly. Heroin was a new drug back then (I believe) and there was also a higher chance of accidental overdose. However drug usage wasn't such a big deal in the Victorian age. It was frowned upon; a rather common vice among the irresponsible men.

The video pauses for me as well, around 3:24. And before any smug jerks ask if I "refreshed the page", I'm going to bring them through my own little exercise in deductive reasoning.

Fact 1: I am not an idiot.
Fact 2: My job involves working with computers.
Therefore, we can deduce Fact 3: YES I KNOW HOW TO WORK A COMPUTER, PLEASE DON'T POST UNHELPFUL, CONDESCENDING, PATRONIZING BS IN RESPONSE.

Sometimes you can judge a book by its cover. I saw the trailer and from that I got pretty much the same impression as from watching this review.

Loved the reference to Encyclopedia Brown. Good to know I'm not the only person who remembers that series.

I eventually got through the whole clip, but it kept stopping all over the place, especially 4:23. I'll have to see this move.

I love how many people are making the connection to Holmes and House now. Really people its been out for some time and some people did not make that click. It amazes me that some people do not read an analyze in this world. In any case, good review I am kinda disappointed that the plot didn't come through...I might as well see it for the characterization. :D

Really looking forward to this movie and it's about time Sherlock was given some mainstream movie attention isn't of all the sub par made for TV movies.
Last time I watched a good Sherlock Holmes movie, Basil Rathbone played him.

House... as Holmes?! Nope, not seeing it.

Yeah, Holmes was a bit of an on again, off again drug user in the original series. It's also mentioned - in a few places - that he was an accomplished boxer and stick fighter. But, I wonder; is Mycroft Holmes to be found anywhere?

Mycroft is Sherlock's older brother; almost as smart, with no real personality hang ups. He was a ranking detective at Scotland Yard, and the two did not get a long too well. Now that would be good sequel fodder.

I also heard tale that this was lifted from a comic book retelling. Anyone know of such a thing?

Yay for Encyclopedia Brown! I used to love those books when I was a kid!

Off to the movie house, I go!!!

Phase_9:
The video pauses for me as well, around 3:24. And before any smug jerks ask if I "refreshed the page", I'm going to bring them through my own little exercise in deductive reasoning.

Fact 1: I am not an idiot.
Fact 2: My job involves working with computers.
Therefore, we can deduce Fact 3: YES I KNOW HOW TO WORK A COMPUTER, PLEASE DON'T POST UNHELPFUL, CONDESCENDING, PATRONIZING BS IN RESPONSE.

This still happens for me, too, and I updated Firefox and Flash and even tried in in IE with the same results.

I would say I have a problem if it weren't that it was happening to others at the same point (3:24). Therefore, there is some compatibility issue based on something I couldn't hazard to guess.

The video freezes at several points... if I click later in the timeline it'll run, then give the "buffering" for eternity

"But in terms of personality, Robert Downey Jr's Holmes is in some respects closer to the text than most of the others that came before. This is really the first time anyone's really gone for the sketchy, disheveled, undiagnosed-OCD aspect of this character, and Downey really is a joy to watch in it."

THANK YOU. I'm so tired of these reviewers calling it a "disappointment to Doyle fans" because this Holmes is a little bit of an adventure-seeker and a talented fighter. (There was even this mystifying one that claimed to be a well-read Doyle enthusiast and then claimed the film "invented" Holmes' skill in martial arts. Adventure of the Empty House much?)

People who read the Holmes stories, especially those who've read any of the novels, have no excuse for not understanding the deep-rooted and sinister personality disease behind the character. Downey is the perfect actor to depict Holmes himself, but I agree with your last line - the BEST adaptation by far has been House, M.D..

IronChuck:
House... as Holmes?! Nope, not seeing it.

Well, maybe you ought to look harder, because the House=Holmes/Wilson=Watson similarities were explicitly intended by the show's creators. And they're there. (Yes, House's team helps him solve the mysteries - but most of his "aha" moments come when he's talking to Wilson.) This was an intentional adaptation.

For me it stops at 4:28

This vid will not play past 2:15 ever on my PC. wtf!

kementari:

IronChuck:
House... as Holmes?! Nope, not seeing it.

Well, maybe you ought to look harder, because the House=Holmes/Wilson=Watson similarities were explicitly intended by the show's creators. And they're there. (Yes, House's team helps him solve the mysteries - but most of his "aha" moments come when he's talking to Wilson.) This was an intentional adaptation.

Which would require me making it through an entire episode... which I have yet to actually accomplish.

Yes, I know, I know; what I'm about to post might be seen, by some, as pure sacrilege, but... I just don't find House that engaging, let alone entertaining. I find House a bit of a prick, if you'll excuse the term. And most of the supporting cast is pretty bland, to me, at least. The show does a really good job, however, of turning me off from it.

So, yeah; I guess my not being able to pin down the whole Holmes/House thing is because I can't really get into it enough to see it; a qualifier on my opinion.

My vid stopped at 2:54, how do i watch the rest? =[

JaredXE:
Video stops at 3:24

Kinda a shame too.

I had the same problem

Well, I haven't seen the movie yet, but I knew Robert Downey Jr. would be great in this movie - I mean, he's just such an awesome actor, how could he not be? I'm pleasantly surprised about Jude Law, as well, to the point where I'm willing to forgive the apparently medicore plot and actually pay to see this movie.

I got to 2:15, then had to click ahead every 5 seconds or so. Lame.

Pebkac:
I got to 2:15, then had to click ahead every 5 seconds or so. Lame.

same here i doubt bob or the escapist will fix this, if u really want to see his vid u can just wait till someone post it on youtube or something like that.

The Great JT:
I'm still on the fense about Downey Jr. playing Holmes. All the actors in Britan and they got an American to play him?

Yes but Robert Downey Jnr is amazing with his accents.

See: Tropic Thunder, where he is an american portraying a negro portraying an Aussie. His Australian accent was very good.

I don't have any doubt that Robert Downey Jnr will pull it off well, and Jude Law promises to be excellent as well. It's a shame the plot won't stand up to the characterisation and I hope the chick in it is in a strong female role.

I'm really looking forward to going and seeing this in a few hours.

Also, I managed to be able to watch the whole thing... Perhaps it is the server being accessed heavily during the Christmas holidays.

JaredXE:
Video stops at 3:24

Kinda a shame too.

Same, except I manage to get to 4:15

couldn't the escapist just re-upload the vid?

CosmicCommander:
I liked the review...

...But by the trailers I think Sherlock Holmes has been Americanised! If there is anything worse that can happen to good literature or film, it's Americanisation!

Before this review, I would have agreed with you entirely, given the fact that the whole intrigue and mystery of it seems to have been totally replaced with a dim-witted special-effects-ridden action flick.

Having MB's input, your post is deliciously ironic.
It seems Sir Arthur Conan Doyle had it pretty 'Americanized' from the start: straight and simple, he did it for the money.
He didn't give two shits for continuity or respect for the source material (even if it came out of his own damn head) but just kept it up because it was a franchise that payed.

Not at all disappointed with the lackluster plot, I didn't expect much from Guy Ritchie and Hollywood's collective brains coming together for this.
Am immensely pleased to learn that Robert Downey Jr. managed to not only pull off but perfect a portrayal of a stuck-up (so-and-so...etc.) British detective mastermind.
RDJ and Jude Law certainly look the part and having executed their debut reasonably well, they can set the stage for a movie series that can gradually find its feet (Robert Downey may have his Capt. Jack Sparrow here).

13lackfriday:

CosmicCommander:
I liked the review...

...But by the trailers I think Sherlock Holmes has been Americanised! If there is anything worse that can happen to good literature or film, it's Americanisation!

Before this review, I would have agreed with you entirely, given the fact that the whole intrigue and mystery of it seems to have been totally replaced with a dim-witted special-effects-ridden action flick.

Having MB's input, your post is deliciously ironic.
It seems Sir Arthur Conan Doyle had it pretty 'Americanized' from the start: straight and simple, he did it for the money.
He didn't give two shits for continuity or respect for the source material (even if it came out of his own damn head) but just kept it up because it was a franchise that payed.

Not at all disappointed with the lackluster plot, I didn't expect much from Guy Ritchie and Hollywood's collective brains coming together for this.
Am immensely pleased to learn that Robert Downey Jr. managed to not only pull off but perfect a portrayal of a stuck-up (so-and-so...etc.) British detective mastermind.
RDJ and Jude Law certainly look the part and having executed their debut reasonably well, they can set the stage for a movie series that can gradually find its feet (Robert Downey may have his Capt. Jack Sparrow here).

Well, the reason I never liked Sherlock Holmes that much before was because I found the series a little too dry (older film versions and not the actual source material).

The problem with this movie is that they've americanized it too much to be an action flick.

In any case, somewhere in between, and maybe leaning a bit more towards this version would have been a well deserved film for the SH name.

Just my two cents.

But isn't Robert Downey Jr. always a bit like that? Y'know, sketchy, disheveled, OCD?

Awesome review, looking forward to seeing the movie.

Since you like Holmes so much, may I make a book suggestion? It's a series by Laurie R King and the first book is called The Beekeeper's Apprentice. The books are set later in Holmes' life, during the Great war and the twenties, and features Mary Russell, who is one of my all time favorite characters. Imagine Holmes with a smart aleck American sidekick/wife who's just as smart as he is and won't take any of his crap. She's awesome, and so are the books. The latest, The Language of Bees ends on a bitch of a cliffhanger - so you're warned.

As a side note, I've been reading the Escapist and watching reviews here for a year or so. I only registered so I could pimp a semi-obscure detective/adventure series - this is how much I love these books.

EDIT: Fixed spelling errors - damn netbook keyboard!

IronChuck:

kementari:

IronChuck:
House... as Holmes?! Nope, not seeing it.

Well, maybe you ought to look harder, because the House=Holmes/Wilson=Watson similarities were explicitly intended by the show's creators. And they're there. (Yes, House's team helps him solve the mysteries - but most of his "aha" moments come when he's talking to Wilson.) This was an intentional adaptation.

Which would require me making it through an entire episode... which I have yet to actually accomplish.

Well, thank you for your uninformed opinion, then.

JaredXE:
Video stops at 3:24

Kinda a shame too.

Same here. Been reloading it and forceloading it and it still is happening.

Littaly:

And what does VR mean? Apart from Virtual Reality?

VR stands for victoria regina, and was the royal cypher of Queen Victoria (the monarch at the time of Holmes). In one of the short stories, I forget which, Holmes is bored, and so decorates the wall opposite him with a "patriotic VR" in bullet holes, despite Watson protesting that pistol practice should be a "strictly outdoors pastime".

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