Yeah, good points all around .. I still wanna watch it though.

MovieBob:

Aulleas123:
So Bob, if the movie was about the character Eli carrying a book by Voltaire or the last known Playboy mag across the wasteland, would that be better?

Voltaire would be pretentious and nonfunctional - you'd have to explain to at least half of the audience what the significance of it was.

Playboy would be silly, unless it tied into the plot somehow (i.e. people had forgotten about sex or something, I dunno.)

I have no objection to the MacGuffin being a Bible BECAUSE it's a Bible, I object to it being a Bible in the context and tone of this movie.

See, the whole "last book/movie/song/whatever on Earth" thing has been done A LOT; and when it works there's generally some level of irony or at least commentary at play in terms of what "it" is. In such stories, the main character always SPEAKS like they're quoting a Holy Book, but the book always turns out to be something seemingly mundane - their kids' diary, some Dylan lyrics, whatever - which gives the reveal a greater impact than "oh, it's exactly what it seemed like it'd be. It's no different than if Eli were hauling around the Bill of Rights or the Magna Carta - it's trite, obvious and heavy-handed.

This is aside from the fact that the film's ultimate pointlessness undermine's itself by serving as a perfect example of why God (as opposed to agents thereof) doesn't really "work" as a character in non-Biblical stories. By the end of the film, it's 100% clear that God has been an active participant in the film, meaning that our story ultimately boils down to this: God decides to save mankind from the apocalypse by putting a Bible in the hands of one guy and having him wander westward for 30 years killing people with a sword. I'm sorry, "mysterious ways" or not, that's just poor plotting.

Bob, I didn't at all feel as though God had been present throughout the entire movie. He had thirty years to hone his senses and was, if you payed close enough attention, only partially blind. He could see a little in the light. If you listened, when Solara first entered his room, she commented on how bright he kept the room. This was so he could see a bit of what was around him, being in a brand new area and all. I mean, if you noticed, he knew where everything was and was not blindly bumping into pieces of furniture. He backed under the bridge because his senses, apart from sight, would have been stronger, thus giving him an advantage. He was able to hit every single sniper on the roofs in the gunfight because he heard where their shots came from and could pinpoint it.

Blind people can do amazing things by taking advantage of their heightened other senses. I still stick with the fact that God was not present anywhere but in Eli's own mind.

After seeing the preview, I hoped that there was a twist, I said, "No, it would be too obvious, wouldn't it?"

But no, it's the fucking Bible, and it's played completely straight.

That just... sucks.

HyenaThePirate:
After reading several other similar reviews going around the net as if some sort of talking point handed out by the "Athiest Review Board" to movie reviewers, this movie has done something it probably never intended to do...

It has exposed an ugly truth about modern society: the increased and open hostility towards Religion. One could almost call it naked aggression.

It is one thing if a person doesn't believe in or prescribe to any specific religion, but it's the frank and open intolerance that is beginning to become more of a norm in our society that should be alarming. Being "anti-religion" has become amazingly "popular", where instead of people who claim to be Athiests because they do not believe in something and wish to quietly be respected for it now engage in open and downright disrespectful open criticism of any and all religion. Atheism may be a legitimate point of view but it by no means a SUPERIOR one, as people are more and more trying to make it out to be.

Ok so you don't believe in Islam. You do not believe in Christianity, thats fine. You think the bible is just another book, swell. But do you really need to criticize, ridicule, and rant ad nauseum about it or it's message? It is undeniable that religion is a part of society, and has tremendous impact on morality and ethics. But this almost concentrated effort to combat it whereever it may appear has begun to border on intolerance. For all the criticisms Atheism might impose upon organized religion, the irony is that it is becoming it's own institution of inflammatory hyperbole and aggressive hate-speak.

If people want to believe in something, let them. Whats it to you? If people want to set aside the theory of evolution to believe in a higher supreme being, where is the problem in that? None of us truly knows if God exists or not. It can not be proven nor can it be disproven, so EVERYONE comes down firmly on the side of "opinion", nothing more nothing less. It does not make one person's opinion more right or wrong than anyone else's.

And ultimately, I would caution secularists about the path they are on. In their efforts to remove religion from mainstream society and thinking, they themselves risk becoming the very oppressive fascists they often accuse organized religion of being. It begins with complaining at every opportunity about "religion and it's messages" being openly portrayed in books and films, and ends with Fahrenheit 451. It doesn't take much for an idea to turn into a movement and for a movement to turn into open aggression and for open aggression to turn into iron-fisted oppression. Some could argue that America is fighting two wars right now based on that line of progression, that the Crusades and the Inquisition are examples of how far an "ideology" can take things to the brink of horror.

At any rate, I doubt that this movie or it's message (if any) is going to start making people swarm to Churches around the world. Hell, taken as just a work of fiction, the Book series "Left Behind" is actually pretty damn good, even if it is a faith based book. No need to demonize it. It's like those clowns that wanted to boycott Shadow complex because of Orson Scott Card's personal political beliefs.

Lets just get over ourselves and enjoy entertainment media for what it actually is... "Entertainment".

Few things irritate me more than members of a dominant majority group pretending to be persecuted and marginalized.

Dude, Christians own 70% of this nation and hold about 90% of all elected offices (and most of the rest are Jews). You have all the power, and you are still complaining about being persecuted because it makes you feel like heroic martyrs. I cannot fathom how anyone could possibly thing that religious people are "not tolerated" in this country or anywhere else on the fucking planet, yet you claim that everyone hates you.

Take your narcissistic victimization complex and stick it where the sun don't shine, I have no interest in hearing you whine about how they're persecuting you by not wanting you to persecute everyone else.

MovieBob:

Aulleas123:
So Bob, if the movie was about the character Eli carrying a book by Voltaire or the last known Playboy mag across the wasteland, would that be better?

Voltaire would be pretentious and nonfunctional - you'd have to explain to at least half of the audience what the significance of it was.

Playboy would be silly, unless it tied into the plot somehow (i.e. people had forgotten about sex or something, I dunno.)

I have no objection to the MacGuffin being a Bible BECAUSE it's a Bible, I object to it being a Bible in the context and tone of this movie.

See, the whole "last book/movie/song/whatever on Earth" thing has been done A LOT; and when it works there's generally some level of irony or at least commentary at play in terms of what "it" is. In such stories, the main character always SPEAKS like they're quoting a Holy Book, but the book always turns out to be something seemingly mundane - their kids' diary, some Dylan lyrics, whatever - which gives the reveal a greater impact than "oh, it's exactly what it seemed like it'd be. It's no different than if Eli were hauling around the Bill of Rights or the Magna Carta - it's trite, obvious and heavy-handed.

This is aside from the fact that the film's ultimate pointlessness undermine's itself by serving as a perfect example of why God (as opposed to agents thereof) doesn't really "work" as a character in non-Biblical stories. By the end of the film, it's 100% clear that God has been an active participant in the film, meaning that our story ultimately boils down to this: God decides to save mankind from the apocalypse by putting a Bible in the hands of one guy and having him wander westward for 30 years killing people with a sword. I'm sorry, "mysterious ways" or not, that's just poor plotting.

Bob, how does the tone weaken the fact that it was the bible, in my opinion it increases it.

in an apocalytic or dire situation people will either lose faith or have more faith than ever. The only time god is ever really present as a character is when eli gets shot. sure you know who's gonna win, but its a movie, in what situation would the religious protagonist NOT win?

I thought there were plot points that actually made it flawed and honestly I don't care that you didn't like it, but in your review you didn't explain it as well as you usually do, you just came off as condescending and pretentious.

Thanks Bob, you just saved me ten bucks.

As soon as I heard the "spoiler" which to be honest wasn't really a spoiler, my interest in this movie was reduced to just slightly below zero.

Considering that religion is the second most popular reason for all the wars, misery, death and destruction in the world next to greed, (but then the two go hand in hand) it would only make sense to rid the world of religion, but of course we can't have that now, can we?

There always has to be SOMEONE trying to shove God down everyone's throat, no matter how subtly.

Ok all you "Christians" out there, let me have it, I know you want to.

I'll warn you though, I know more about theology than you think I do and if you aren't prepared for an intelligent, informed rebuttal, I wouldn't recommend getting into it with me.

Besides, this is a movie review not a religious discussion.

MovieBob:

This is aside from the fact that the film's ultimate pointlessness undermine's itself by serving as a perfect example of why God (as opposed to agents thereof) doesn't really "work" as a character in non-Biblical stories. By the end of the film, it's 100% clear that God has been an active participant in the film, meaning that our story ultimately boils down to this: God decides to save mankind from the apocalypse by putting a Bible in the hands of one guy and having him wander westward for 30 years killing people with a sword. I'm sorry, "mysterious ways" or not, that's just poor plotting.

While I do agree that the plotting as you've described it is rather bizarre, I wouldn't call it poor: just unrealistic, like most religion stories. That doesn't mean that said stories are bad, though.

Sure, the Book being a Bible is rather heavy-handed, but it was sort of obvious from the title+trailers what exactly the movie was going to be about. TBOE was obviously intended to BE heavy-handed, little more than a post-apocalypse religious inspiration movie with action bits. Asking the movie to aspire to more than it's founding concept seems rather pointless, and saying that God getting involved means that the movie is boring is completely unfounded: what about stuff like The Stand? It can work if it's played well: sure, you sort of know the outcome already(like how you know in Finding Nemo that Nemo will be found), but the ride along to the end can be entertaining regardeless.

Sylocat:
Few things irritate me more than members of a dominant majority group pretending to be persecuted and marginalized.

Dude, Christians own 70% of this nation and hold about 90% of all elected offices (and most of the rest are Jews). You have all the power, and you are still complaining about being persecuted because it makes you feel like heroic martyrs. I cannot fathom how anyone could possibly thing that religious people are "not tolerated" in this country or anywhere else on the fucking planet, yet you claim that everyone hates you.

Take your narcissistic victimization complex and stick it where the sun don't shine, I have no interest in hearing you whine about how they're persecuting you by not wanting you to persecute everyone else.

That's a load of crap.

Christians hold less than 1% of elected offices and less than 1% of anything this nation has.

People CLAIMING to be Christians are the people you are talking about. People like GW Bush, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Mitch McConnell, Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, etc etc.

The easiest way to get elected is for the wolves to dress up like sheep and fool all the other Sunday service Christians (that being a person that is a "Christian" for 1 hour on Sunday and might as well be an Atheist or a Hedonist the other 167 hours of the week) that a vote for them will "take back America for God", or "be a stroke in the fight against Evil", or any other line of bull they think they can spin to get votes.

/rant

The Bible...Well I kind of expected that, or something similar, but I had hoped for more than that. And I find it even harder that somehow the world decided to burn all religious books because of the causes of religion, that sounds like such a religious thing to do, I mean how are you gonna teach whats wrong with religion if you don't have the sources...*facepalm*

Well this review kinda makes me want to stop listening to Movie Bob because i still cant tell if this is a good movie. Ok the plot i dead is clearly bad in your opinion but i think that would make for an interesting post-apocalyptic movie. But you just kinda ranted about it over and over. What about the rest of the movie, the action sequences? Or is the whole movie just him walking? In my opinion i think this review should be redone with a bit more like your other reviews not just a rant about the premise.

Undercover:
Thanks Bob, you just saved me ten bucks.

As soon as I heard the "spoiler" which to be honest wasn't really a spoiler, my interest in this movie was reduced to just slightly below zero.

Considering that religion is the second most popular reason for all the wars, misery, death and destruction in the world next to greed, (but then the two go hand in hand) it would only make sense to rid the world of religion, but of course we can't have that now, can we?

There always has to be SOMEONE trying to shove God down everyone's throat, no matter how subtly.

Ok all you "Christians" out there, let me have it, I know you want to.

I'll warn you though, I know more about theology than you think I do and if you aren't prepared for an intelligent, informed rebuttal, I wouldn't recommend getting into it with me.

Besides, this is a movie review not a religious discussion.

Even if religion was removed (pretty much impossible) the world would find something else to fight over. And you complained about people trying to shove god down your throat well i have met atheists who try even harder to shove nothing down my throat.

I thought the movie was good. The plot was more than one man plodding across the US. It was also about perseverance, the nature of faith, and the power of the written word. Bob, you bash this movie because a bible is central to the plot, and because of the implication that god exists, while ignoring the artistic style and poignant story. Yes, the plot is plodding and slow; do you think, perhaps, that this reflects the nature of Eli's quest? He has been walking for 32 years, after all; that could get boring after a while. I found the action scenes to be artistic and well executed, the cinematic style to be a powerful expression of the both the physical and emotional wasteland through which we travel, and the plot to be an inspiring exploration of perseverance and faith in times of trouble, regardless of whether your faith lies in god or man.
p.s. The idea that literature can be a powerful weapon is also an interesting element of the plot. Look at the crusades to see the power that the bible once held. Also, the plot does pick up a bit, but over all, this movie is just paced a bit slower than most modern films: not necessarily a bad thing.

The Bible!... I do not see myself going to watch this one.

I saw it. theres more to it than just the bible. It had some sick action sequences with good acting. And I mean good acting because there are a couple of twists that make you view the movie in a different perspective because the end allows you to connect the dots. Of course the good guys win especially if they have God on their side, but really why would you bash a movie because the good guys win?????????? This guy is terrible at reviewing things.

Sylocat:
Few things irritate me more than members of a dominant majority group pretending to be persecuted and marginalized.

Dude, Christians own 70% of this nation and hold about 90% of all elected offices (and most of the rest are Jews). You have all the power, and you are still complaining about being persecuted because it makes you feel like heroic martyrs. I cannot fathom how anyone could possibly thing that religious people are "not tolerated" in this country or anywhere else on the fucking planet, yet you claim that everyone hates you.

Take your narcissistic victimization complex and stick it where the sun don't shine, I have no interest in hearing you whine about how they're persecuting you by not wanting you to persecute everyone else.

And there you have it. Thank you Sylocat for proving EXACTLY my point about it.
IMMEDIATELY you are on the 'attack', seemingly offended that someone else could feel targeted by a subset of society and in the process of doing so proved that everything I said was frighteningly accurate.

I can equate this to the plight of my race in America... for some reason the black community by and large still acts as if white people are not to be trusted, that racism is the RULE as opposed to the exception and unless they've gone to epic lengths to prove that they are not the assumption seems to be prevalent that most if not all white people are "racist" in the majority of black minds, specifically in the older generations that lived through the civil rights movements.

The problem is that racism, while not eradicated in America, is NOTHING of what it used to be.. it may be hidden but thats what beasts do when they go to DIE. I've never walked about assuming every white person I meet is a closet racist secretly judging me by my skin color, but you get a bunch of other blacks together and you can garuntee that thought is an unspoken bond between them all. Sure there are exceptions to the rule, but the majority of black people, if honest, would agree with me.

Now the reason I used that example is because these days in our society, being labeled a "racist" is about as bad or worse than being labeled a pedophile... it's a label that is used often and with more frequency as a WEAPON.. usually to silence opposition. We've all seen it, people like Kanye West and Jessie Jackson firing off the "bigot bullet" at every public opportunity to the point that it's become almost expected. "Don't like Kobe Bryant? You must be a racist!".. "Hated the new Will Smith movie? You must be a racist!" Think Wesley Snipes should have served jail time for tax evasion? YOU MUST be a racist.

Society has shifted paradigms and those who were once a silent minority have become a vocal majority of minorities. Speak your mind in the wrong place, amongst the wrong company, and you're a racist.

This is the parallel I draw to Secularists and those who have "Faith". Those who dislike religion have decided that not only should they combat religion on ideology, but at any opportunity. They act as if mentioning "God" or even the existence of "God" is a disease that must be targeted and eliminated whenever, wherever possible.

Ask yourself this honestly... was your post really necessary? Was the tone you used necessary for your argument? Did it help things in anyway? Was it relevant to the subject at hand? Was it really the right attitude and approach for the subject? Were you sensitive to the other side's thoughts and feelings on the subject or were you just winging it from the hip like a typical internet forum d-bag, since y'know, thats the super popular thing these days? What was your ultimate intention? Did you have one?

In essence, were you trying to present a point of view for mutual understanding, or just having a go because you felt like taking it to those "stupid christians"?

Hyena i love you just for that post. I thank you for pointing out the ignorance of alot of atheists and other who attack someone for there beliefs or decisions.

To be honest, just the fact that The Book of Eli is about the Bible is considered a spoiler says a hell of a lot. I've only absent-mindedly watched the trailers, but I kind of assumed that the trailer mentioned that it was the Bible or something; if that's all they can come up as a plot hook, then this is definetly a film to miss. I mean, for fuck's sake "Eli" means God, the film is called "The Book of God", what the hell else was it going to be about?

C'mon, Movie Bob...stop ranting about your hatred of God in films and focus mainly on what makes it a poorly-executed piece of cinema. Honestly, when put with the Daybreakers one, the reviews are more about your personal tastes than anything else...

Ahh... I was hoping he was going to do a review of "Lovely Bones". You know after crushing on Mr. Jackson so hard in his District Nine review, I was wondering if he was going to go against the critics and stick by the geek golden boy or say that it's crap. I was really wondering whether to bother.

HyenaThePirate:

Sylocat:
Few things irritate me more than members of a dominant majority group pretending to be persecuted and marginalized.

Dude, Christians own 70% of this nation and hold about 90% of all elected offices (and most of the rest are Jews). You have all the power, and you are still complaining about being persecuted because it makes you feel like heroic martyrs. I cannot fathom how anyone could possibly thing that religious people are "not tolerated" in this country or anywhere else on the fucking planet, yet you claim that everyone hates you.

Take your narcissistic victimization complex and stick it where the sun don't shine, I have no interest in hearing you whine about how they're persecuting you by not wanting you to persecute everyone else.

And there you have it. Thank you Sylocat for proving EXACTLY my point about it.
IMMEDIATELY you are on the 'attack', seemingly offended that someone else could feel targeted by a subset of society and in the process of doing so proved that everything I said was frighteningly accurate.

I can equate this to the plight of my race in America... for some reason the black community by and large still acts as if white people are not to be trusted, that racism is the RULE as opposed to the exception and unless they've gone to epic lengths to prove that they are not the assumption seems to be prevalent that most if not all white people are "racist" in the majority of black minds, specifically in the older generations that lived through the civil rights movements.

The problem is that racism, while not eradicated in America, is NOTHING of what it used to be.. it may be hidden but thats what beasts do when they go to DIE. I've never walked about assuming every white person I meet is a closet racist secretly judging me by my skin color, but you get a bunch of other blacks together and you can garuntee that thought is an unspoken bond between them all. Sure there are exceptions to the rule, but the majority of black people, if honest, would agree with me.

Now the reason I used that example is because these days in our society, being labeled a "racist" is about as bad or worse than being labeled a pedophile... it's a label that is used often and with more frequency as a WEAPON.. usually to silence opposition. We've all seen it, people like Kanye West and Jessie Jackson firing off the "bigot bullet" at every public opportunity to the point that it's become almost expected. "Don't like Kobe Bryant? You must be a racist!".. "Hated the new Will Smith movie? You must be a racist!" Think Wesley Snipes should have served jail time for tax evasion? YOU MUST be a racist.

Society has shifted paradigms and those who were once a silent minority have become a vocal majority of minorities. Speak your mind in the wrong place, amongst the wrong company, and you're a racist.

This is the parallel I draw to Secularists and those who have "Faith". Those who dislike religion have decided that not only should they combat religion on ideology, but at any opportunity. They act as if mentioning "God" or even the existence of "God" is a disease that must be targeted and eliminated whenever, wherever possible.

Ask yourself this honestly... was your post really necessary? Was the tone you used necessary for your argument? Did it help things in anyway? Was it relevant to the subject at hand? Was it really the right attitude and approach for the subject? Were you sensitive to the other side's thoughts and feelings on the subject or were you just winging it from the hip like a typical internet forum d-bag, since y'know, thats the super popular thing these days? What was your ultimate intention? Did you have one?

In essence, were you trying to present a point of view for mutual understanding, or just having a go because you felt like taking it to those "stupid christians"?

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Dude calm the fuck down.

First off, being ironic here, but isn't assuming that all black people think about, whenever they see a white person, is that white person and how racist they maybe. You should probably avoid assuming broad generalizations like that it makes you sound racist.

But please for all that is holy do not, and I repeat, do not get upset about something like this. Both sides victimizes themselves to reach their goals and both sides use broad attacks on each other. There is only one thing that you have to worry about and that is when someone gets hit, hurt, murdered, or massacred. Racism will never die, it won't because racism didn't start when the first slave boat was brought to America and it wasn't started when the Pope declared war on the Muslims. No, it was started sometime after the rise of Mesopotamia when someone looked over the edge of civilization and saw those on the outside as inferior.

All we can try to do is to stop violence actions towards others for any reason. That's all you can do really.

Interesting point Panda. No offense Bob, but I think that was a spoiler you shouldn't have mentioned. Did the previews skew my expectations? Yes. But I wasn't disappointed leaving the theatre. There is more to the movie.

Firstly, watching Daniel's character kicking butt and no non-sense attitude was awesome. Based on the previews, I thought "The Book" was going to give him some special powers or something. But you know what, I'm GLAD they didn't go with that angle. He's talented with a sword, but it's not because he has the "The Book", it because he has direction and purpose and focus in world that none. That's-what-makes-him-truly-dangerous.

Secondly, for anyone still considering watching this movie, watch it to see what people can do to themselves and to each other in post-war times (Like Mad-Max, etc, as Bob mentioned). But don't let the "God angle" skew your choice, because frankly belief is not the only thing rare in this movie, so in education and human decency and stable governments.

Lastly, take every movie review with a grain of salt people, even mine. Cheers.

:)

I liked the movie. I'm definitely no fan of organized religion, but if you think about it, the move wasn't promoting religion. Yes, it was promoting faith, and the Bible was the inspiration for that faith, but nothing about it said "Join the Catholics!" or anything similar. It's funny to see how we bring our modern baggage concerning the Bible into the film, forgetting that in the end it's really just a book of words. If anything, it should be sobering (for Christians especially) because it showed two sides of the coin: walking your own path with the Bible as a guide and using the Bible as a means of control. The antagonist, Carnegie, sought to use the Bible as a means of control. That sounds to me like a cinematic warning shot across the bow of organized religion.

Rubbav1:

Dude calm the fuck down.

First off, being ironic here, but isn't assuming that all black people think about, whenever they see a white person, is that white person and how racist they maybe. You should probably avoid assuming broad generalizations like that it makes you sound racist.

I don't think you payed attention to what he was saying... At all...

But please for all that is holy do not, and I repeat, do not get upset about something like this. Both sides victimizes themselves to reach their goals and both sides use broad attacks on each other. There is only one thing that you have to worry about and that is when someone gets hit, hurt, murdered, or massacred. Racism will never die, it won't because racism didn't start when the first slave boat was brought to America and it wasn't started when the Pope declared war on the Muslims. No, it was started sometime after the rise of Mesopotamia when someone looked over the edge of civilization and saw those on the outside as inferior.

All we can try to do is to stop violence actions towards others for any reason. That's all you can do really.

This isn't about that, it's about the fact that Bob didn't make any points for or against the movie except: "It contains the bible, therefore, its bad."

There was no review, it was just ranting about how religion shouldn't be in movies.

Not an unfair review.

The movie really did have some heavy moralizing that was pretty juvenile. However, the feel of the movie "the western filled with homeless" really was just about perfect.

gmacarthur81:

That's a load of crap.

Christians hold less than 1% of elected offices and less than 1% of anything this nation has.

People CLAIMING to be Christians are the people you are talking about. People like GW Bush, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Mitch McConnell, Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, etc etc.

The easiest way to get elected is for the wolves to dress up like sheep and fool all the other Sunday service Christians (that being a person that is a "Christian" for 1 hour on Sunday and might as well be an Atheist or a Hedonist the other 167 hours of the week) that a vote for them will "take back America for God", or "be a stroke in the fight against Evil", or any other line of bull they think they can spin to get votes.

/rant

No True Scotsman much?

Sounds like this movie might do well on the bible belt or for anyone who happens to be big enough on post apocalyptic movies to not care what the premise behind the central plot is.

Me, I'm unlikely to see it if it's just a whole lot of gunplay to stop a fellow from walking somewhere because he has the last copy of the book belonging to what's apparently a long-forgotten religion. Heck, if a guy's murdering his way across the country because God told him to, maybe they were right to burn their bibles.

I completely disagree wkith everything in this review, it was a good movie.

Undercover:
Thanks Bob, you just saved me ten bucks.

As soon as I heard the "spoiler" which to be honest wasn't really a spoiler, my interest in this movie was reduced to just slightly below zero.

Considering that religion is the second most popular reason for all the wars, misery, death and destruction in the world next to greed, (but then the two go hand in hand) it would only make sense to rid the world of religion, but of course we can't have that now, can we?

There always has to be SOMEONE trying to shove God down everyone's throat, no matter how subtly.

Ok all you "Christians" out there, let me have it, I know you want to.

I'll warn you though, I know more about theology than you think I do and if you aren't prepared for an intelligent, informed rebuttal, I wouldn't recommend getting into it with me.

Besides, this is a movie review not a religious discussion.

really? do you also walk into the ghetto and say "i am part of the kkk!!!"

and do you realize that if you say your an atheist, people don't try and force god down your throat (at least most normal people) but if you tell an atheist your religion he'll try to convince you how idiotic and how bad religion is. so please, don't go into your rant about religion, because its so tired and samey as all the other atheist speeches we've heard here.

Mr.Pandah:
So I saw the movie, and I have to completely disagree with MovieBob on this one. The film was actually pretty good. I don't feel like spoiling anything, but as far as the whole God thing goes, MovieBob overexaggerated GREATLY. He had divine inspiration, much like some great leaders in history touted that they had. He never said he spoke with God, he said he heard a voice, it guided him, showed him the way. Honestly, you can take from that what you wish, but the way MovieBob speaks about it is actually just showing how childish someone can act on the subject matter.

yes! it was exaggerated so much, the only time that i felt god was at all present as a character was in the part with the gun, which (and this is a stretch) could be considered just pure will. kinda like how old people try live to 100 just so they have a sort of finish line.

I could understand why he is upset at the premise, but I feel like he saw a different movie than I did. He didn't mention anything about the great cinematography or well executed action scenes. The movie did have the Post apocalypse look, but almost every shot was good enough to be a painting. Bob might have felt that the movie lost its tension when God was through in the mix, but the Blind faith that Eli has in his mission almost makes the scenes more frightening. Everyone that I saw the film with (Religious or not) enjoyed it.

mGoLos:
Yeah, good points all around .. I still wanna watch it though.

Please do. Don't let all of the angry rants on the forum scare you off

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