Why I'm Not Playing Mass Effect 2

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Why I'm Not Playing Mass Effect 2

It's a dirty job, but someone's got to do it. Or not do it.

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Too long?

I've always thought, ignoring side quests, the main quests in both Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 are ridiculously short. That's most likely so you'll replay it though, which is the awesomeness of ME. Want to replay as a woman instead of a bloke? Sure! Want to play as an Adapt instead of a Soldier? Go for it. Want to be Renegade instead of Paragon? Why not.

And of course, there's always them big choices. Seeing the different outcomes is always fun.

I haven't played ACTUAL games, for what, 8 months now, they LOOK overwhelming, I think it's gonna be great I'm just a tiny bit in all that's happening to the world but a lot of games that I played that made me think like that, actually were pretty disappointing... :( So now I decided not to play them at all.

I also haven't played, and will most likely not, play Mass Effect 2. Main reason being that I didn't think the first one was all that (never even finished it), so I don't feel the need to. Everyone has a game like this now and then, you don't dislike it, you just don't really care for or about it at all.

Great article and it hit the nail on the head.

I'm a student and I've just finished some seasonal work. I've been playing Mass Effect for a several days now. I've put in 30+ hours so far and I've just had my first meeting with Saren and have returned to the Citadel; so I have a ways to go yet. If I were working full time there is no way I would be able to play this game. I'd be able to play 3 hours a night, at most, and even that would be difficult. If it's a 50 hour game it would take me about a month to play through that's not realistic. When I was a kid and had all the free time in the world long games were awesome, but now...

Definitely understand the sentiment. I put aside a whole weekend for Mass Effect 2, and knew I had to finish it within that time or else I'd get behind on university work. I did it, and can now go back through at a more leisurely pace without wanting to finish the story, but if I hadn't been able to take the weekend I might have avoided it too.

I take the same attitude towards games that I do towards books. ME, FF, other acronymed games, are the big novels you've been waiting for for months, and when they finally arrive you se yourself up for a good few hours of reading. Left 4 Dead, Halo, other full name games, are the comic books you pick up that get you through an hour or so before you go to a seminar.

For me at the moment in my life there's room for both, and I hope that stays the same as long as possible, because I hate having to start a story and not finish it as quickly as possible. (This is what stopped me playing Lost Odyssey for such a long time). I suppose it also does come down to what you want out of gaming. I love my stories, and so ME2, great game for me.

I'm a bit confused, you don't want to play the game because it's "huge, it's epic, it's deep"? I always thought a long game is a good thing, you know, like reading a very deep book. Just proves to show that one man's waste of time is another man's epic gaming time. :D

Sparrow:

I've always thought, ignoring side quests, the main quests in both Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 are ridiculously short.

Ditto. I breezed through ME1 in just a few hours (I was too lazy to do any sidequests back then).

I haven't played it (well I have, but I got bored quite quickly. Sorta, it's difficult to explain), but the time was one of the reasons.

Sparrow:
Too long?

I've always thought, ignoring side quests, the main quests in both Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 are ridiculously short. That's most likely so you'll replay it though, which is the awesomeness of ME. Want to replay as a woman instead of a bloke? Sure! Want to play as an Adapt instead of a Soldier? Go for it. Want to be Renegade instead of Paragon? Why not.

And of course, there's always them big choices. Seeing the different outcomes is always fun.

And this was another, and the reason I never finished KOTOR (sorta as well, don't ask), I feel that only allowing people to get bonuses for being either complete duoche or Jesus is not good storytelling.

Mass Effect 1 is like 10 hours for main plot, 30 hours total for all sidequests.

Jannycats:
I'm a bit confused, you don't want to play the game because it's "huge, it's epic, it's deep"?

No, it's because it's very story-driven, as well as being ridiculously deep, so if a different game he wanted to play came out, he would never finish the story (at least I think that's what it said).

Nut up and post your /played.

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ADD is hard.

It's not like there isn't a save function. I guess classic literature is also out the window for you too.

I love games that last long, they are able to keep my entertainment up for as long as possible. I can leave and go back to whenever time permits.

Games arent LONG ENOUGH nowadays! Multiplayer games get repetitive to me real fast...wow fill up the generator for the 20th time...not fun.

Mass Effect 2 is one of the best games ive ever played because each quest is different than the last one. Not all of us has the money to afford a game a week let alone a game a month! (as for me I buy 3-4 games a YEAR so I want them to last long!). You're not only doing Bioware a disservice for not playing their amazing games...you're doing YOURSELF a disservice for not experiencing these epic games that a FAR better than any L4D's or WOW's or MW2's.

In summary, I disagree with you in every way.

Well. To be honest. I play ME2 for that exact purpose. The instant joy, and not the overall experience. I sure as hell wouldn't start playing ME1 (combat is less... Awesome), but I just love to kick sum' mother f**king ass in ME2. It just looks awesome as you use your biotic powers.

I'll heartily agree with this.

Many nights I've looked at my Steam list and decided, "I can't play this tonight, I just don't have enough time."

Evil Genius, Puzzle Quest, Mass Effect, Jagged Alliance, Majesty, and Team Fortress 2.

I pick TF2 because I know I can be over and done with within a half hour, even if I do take 2 hours on it.

I also know that I won't have wasted 2 hours because one stupid knight going one way doesn't make that entire 2 hours irrelevant.

That's the thing with Retro Games, every second is IMPORTANT. Modern games expect you to wait for the Vespene Gas, Cloak bar, Warp Generator. When time was measured in quarters (10p's), you KNEW that you were in for a world of hurt from the start. Now you have to spend half an hour going through a stupid tutorial.

Like Lost and Neighbours, today's entertainment requires you give up something. I just quite like letting a Sim drown sometimes. Something immediate.

BTW, I have over 1000 hours logged on CoX, so don't call me casual. :)

If you're playing to see the ending, you're playing for the wrong reason. These games can't be long enough for me since I'm only playing through once, as going through the same missions again is boring, but the game itself is amazing when new scenarios keep popping up.

Nice argument for DAO but ME1 can be finished in a day if you ignore the pointless side questing. ME2's main plotline is probably less than 10 hours.

I haven't played ME1 because I can't play ME1... I was gifted it in the Steam sales and it just fails to run.
Yes, I've done everything on the forums, yes I've sent Steam Support a message, yes I did what they said, no it still doesn't work... sadface.

The only thing I hate about very long games is that if you dont play it for a couple of days you will not get in the mood for it.

I totally empathise, I love DA:O but can only play for 2-3 hours a week. There's just too much else that I want to do and I can easily see me never completing DA:O and I'm a little sad about it, it does seem like a waste to just stop and walk away.

CommyGingerbreadMan:
ADD is hard.

It's not like there isn't a save function. I guess classic literature is also out the window for you too.

I love games that last long, they are able to keep my entertainment up for as long as possible. I can leave and go back to whenever time permits.

I remember when I had all that free time...

Then Mortgages, bills, relationships and responsibilities kicked in...

That sounds like bullshit to me. You don't have enough time? Play an hour a week. You'll be done sometime in June. Also, it's 20 hours, tops, not 50. Finally, it's not just about story. If it was, I wouldn't be on my 3rd playthrough.

I just hate RPGs. Western or Japanese. I like instant gratification, or short term gratification in games. That's why I like shooters and racers. Call me simple, but I'm not going to do work/favors for someone in a game just so 6 hours down the story they can betray me. Fuck that. That happens to me in real life. And "choose your path" games hate it when you're an asshole anyways, even though they make it an option.

Nimbus:
That sounds like bullshit to me. You don't have enough time? Play an hour a week. You'll be done sometime in June. Also, it's 20 hours, tops, not 50. Finally, it's not just about story. If it was, I wouldn't be on my 3rd playthrough.

If you're on a 3rd playthrough of a game that came out a week ago, I submit that you have free time of the like that I decidedly do not. What fun is playing a game for an hour a week? You'll forget where you were going, never have time to be immersed in the world and the story, and just not get as involved as you would be if you take it in larger chunks.

I don't want to play a game that I *need* to play for 30+ hours to see to the end.

Call it man... just say it: BioWare makes mediocre products that suffer badly when you compare it to Blizzard.

This is the exact reason I haven't finished GTA 4 too. I also made an impulse purchase of Persona 4, and that got shelved. Hell, I had to practically force myself to finish Twilight Princess and that's not nearly as long as any of these other games. I've been finding myself more and more playing flash games and indie downloads (VVVVVV has been a big part of my time) and when I need big budget production and large scope, it's down to WoW, which can be experienced any way you want.

The biggest thing about World of Warcraft that makes it viable to play these long hours is the fact that you can pick what you want to do. If you don't want to get started on a huge long story line or raid, you don't have to. You can play the market or search for quests or achievements, or just roleplay if you're into that sort of thing. There's no time dedication required and there's nothing you're required to do next, where some big budget games will have a main storyline, and once you've exhausted your other options, you have to follow that line to get anywhere.

i totally know what you mean...i never got past the first few levels of mass effect, even though i knew if i gave it time and patience it would blow my mind

its like, if you could compress fallout 3 and all of its DLC down to the really interesting areas and quests, even if it was 50% of the size it is now, it would be better....for me anyway, i just dont have the time for sandboxes

Thoroughly enjoyed that read and I think a lot of people can share your sentiments, whether it be down to work or like me - family life. I've stopped playing WoW for now as I'm awaiting the arrival of another bundle of joy but I agree that it's never felt a waste of time because of the social aspect and just general enjoyment from the game, not the story.

I has no money. can't buy it. Long games are good. It lets you actually keep your attention on it instead of just letting it die and gather dust on your shelf.
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I don't get to play

I don't really have much to add to this.

Except that a video game reviewer not playing Mass Effect 2 is like a music critic that's never listened to Zeppelin.

But at least you have a good reason. I mean, assuming you find the digital version of running on a hamster wheel a good reason.

It's an interesting take and one I understand, if I don't agree with.

May be it's the old bastard that I am but honeslty I was waiting for a few epic games like these. I have a full time job, a wife juggling grad school and work, and a 2 year old. . . so if I am going to take time to play a game I want that experience to draw me in. The idea of getting into a little multiplayer mayhem is just a way to pass time for me if I DON'T have a game like Mass effect sitting on my shelf.

Just when it was seeming that the days of Planescape:Torment and Baldur's Gate 2 were behind us, we get these two epic games along and remind me why I love RPGs.

I understand the sentiment, though I have to say that (in some cases) it's a false dichotomy. The first ME only takes around 20 hours if you stick to the main missions. I haven't played ME2 yet so I have no idea if that's true of the sequel, but I know in every other Bioware game I've played the time-consuming part of it wasn't the main game, it was all the side missions.

Granted, you're missing out on a huge portion of the experience if you opt-out of the optional content, but it's your choice. Developers have been pretty good about keeping to brass tacks in their main campaigns this generation. ME felt like a complete experience even when I insisted on getting right to the point.

I was actually repelled from WoW after a while because there was no definitive ending. I could spend hours, months, even years playing the game and there would still be more to do. I find single-player epics more appealing in the regard that I know no matter how long they are they will end. If I don't complete it, so what? Any time I spend on something I enjoy isn't a waste even if I don't finish it.

Of course, WoW has something no single player RPG ever will, and John touched on it: it's a social experience. If I ever go back that's what'll draw me in. In fact, that's partly why I'm looking forward to The Old Republic. Not only can you conquer beasties and baddies alongside virtual companions, you can create your own stories within a lore-rich world if you so choose. That's a level of freedom no single player experience will ever be able to provide. (Barring advanced AI scripts that would let NPCs develop and react of their own will according to the player's input. Unfortunately that means my PS3 might become Skynet.)

In the end I suppose it's a matter of preference. Both kinds of games have their advantages and you'll end up spending the same amount of time on either of them if you've got it to spare. Unfortunately time is a limited resource so even if you'd like to be an avid player of both you'll probably have to choose.

Well if you dont want because its to long then that's fine, that's why there are all sorts of games. I love games like Mass Effect and Dragon Age, but i have a hard time with games like WoW and LFD (unless its local co-op)

ME2 aside (I have neither xbox or gaming PC so this one goes under my radar unfortunately) I agree wholeheartedly with this article and I find it quite saddening. A few years ago I was more than able to spend forever on my games but in the last couple of years it's all changed. I still do play my PS3 and if I have the time or inclination I'l happily waste a day on a new game, I blitzed inFamous when I got it a few months ago and had no uni work but (still have yet to finish it) and Arkham Asylum actually got finished over a weekend before that (but that was when I had yet to start back at uni and had no Summer girlfriend...)
I keep looking at games in the stores and thinking ooooh I want it!! Dragon Age is one of these, but for the same reason as in the article I don't want to feel like its wasted if I don't finish it. Bioshock 2's out in a few weeks and I STILL haven't finished the first one! I just keep forgetting! The cases of these unfinished games just stare at me and make me feel guilty now...

John Funk:

Nimbus:
That sounds like bullshit to me. You don't have enough time? Play an hour a week. You'll be done sometime in June. Also, it's 20 hours, tops, not 50. Finally, it's not just about story. If it was, I wouldn't be on my 3rd playthrough.

If you're on a 3rd playthrough of a game that came out a week ago, I submit that you have free time of the like that I decidedly do not. What fun is playing a game for an hour a week? You'll forget where you were going, never have time to be immersed in the world and the story, and just not get as involved as you would be if you take it in larger chunks.

I don't want to play a game that I *need* to play for 30+ hours to see to the end.

And yet you do play others longer. The point I'm trying to make is that, at least to myself, a lot of what your saying is mostly excuses and not particularly good ones at that. If you spent as much time just getting to the end of any of Biowares games as you do playing WoW and L4D2 and justifying doing so, you could have all three (ME, ME2, DA:O) you could be done in a couple of months.

Fearzone:
Call it man... just say it: BioWare makes mediocre products that suffer badly when you compare it to Blizzard.

Really? So exactly what genre and storytelling shatteringly well done games have they made since Warcraft 3?

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