Escape to the Movies: Alice in Wonderland

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mechanixis:
I gave up on this movie when I found that the only actor whose name was on any of the posters was Johny Depp. Because it was a pretty clear sign that the movie wasn't aimed at Lewis Carrol fans, it was aimed at Depp/Burton fans. Which sends it from "surrealist literature adaptation" to "hollywood teenage girl cash-in".

Completely agreed and it was the same way for me.

The movie was marketed more as "OMG! It's another TIM BURTON movie starring JOHNNY DEPP!!!" rather than "It's a cinematic adaptation of Alice in Wonderland".

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Loved the special message. I've hated a lot of Tim Burton's movies expect for one. Sweeny Todd. And I've have yet to watch a Nightmare before Christmas and refuse too. Judging by your review, this is crap. Thank you moviebob

I think you mean "Judging by your review, you are crap. Thank you bob"

But in all seriousness, if I WAS to listen to a critic I'll listen to Ebert, a PROFESSIONAL who has spent his whole career (or at least a damn many years) reviewing movies, also don't listen to critics, go see the movie (theater or pirated) and judge for yourself, don't let other people decide for you, that's just fucking stupid

I laughed hard. You do know what a reviewer is right? Someone who gives an unbiased opinion on something after taking into consideration every aspect of something. A professional opinion giver is an oxymoron.

Well at least Ebert has some credentials (as in he's spent years doing it) but it seems bob hates a lot of movies and besides Tim Burton's Alice is the best live adaptation yet

Again, it's all based on opinion, no amount of 'professionalism' will change that. The reviewer you like is no more qualified than Movie Bob, since taste is not an objective thing.

Everything is based on opinion, but Bob probably never gave it a chance, you know how some people watched the cartoon Alice when they were kids and then when they saw the trailer for this they were like "oooohhh, its bashing my child hood memories! its so ugly I dont like it!"

I've only watched the first 30 seconds of the review so far, but I just had to stop and say: Wow, MovieBob doesn't take criticism very well, does he? Here's a little tip for you Mr. Bob, it's the number one rule about criticism on the internet: Don't respond to it. It's a beginner's mistake really, in fact most people have learned the lesson by the time they progress past posting amateur videos on Youtube. If you found the criticism as having a genuine point, then change what you did wrong. If not, ignore it. Anything else just appears a bit immature, don't you think?

mchoueiri:
I kind of saw this coming I was not really excited to see this film. I mean it looked pretty but looking pretty does not make a good film. So im skipping this one . Oh and on a side note I liked Charlie and the chocolate factory but to each his own.

Nobody seemed to complain with Avatar. Although, Idk, haven't seen this movie, but for me, Avatar easily takes the crown as the most shallow movie of the decade.

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mchoueiri:
I kind of saw this coming I was not really excited to see this film. I mean it looked pretty but looking pretty does not make a good film. So im skipping this one . Oh and on a side note I liked Charlie and the chocolate factory but to each his own.

Nobody seemed to complain with Avatar. Although, Idk, haven't seen this movie, but for me, Avatar easily takes the crown as the most shallow movie of the decade.

I mean avatar too dude. I am 100 percent with you on this.

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hubertw47:
I don't like the look's of this film, reminds me of across the universe too much.

oi! Any film based of Beatles songs is good

No that film was a big pile of poo-poo.

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Loved the special message. I've hated a lot of Tim Burton's movies expect for one. Sweeny Todd. And I've have yet to watch a Nightmare before Christmas and refuse too. Judging by your review, this is crap. Thank you moviebob

I think you mean "Judging by your review, you are crap. Thank you bob"

But in all seriousness, if I WAS to listen to a critic I'll listen to Ebert, a PROFESSIONAL who has spent his whole career (or at least a damn many years) reviewing movies, also don't listen to critics, go see the movie (theater or pirated) and judge for yourself, don't let other people decide for you, that's just fucking stupid

I laughed hard. You do know what a reviewer is right? Someone who gives an unbiased opinion on something after taking into consideration every aspect of something. A professional opinion giver is an oxymoron.

Well at least Ebert has some credentials (as in he's spent years doing it) but it seems bob hates a lot of movies and besides Tim Burton's Alice is the best live adaptation yet

Again, it's all based on opinion, no amount of 'professionalism' will change that. The reviewer you like is no more qualified than Movie Bob, since taste is not an objective thing.

Everything is based on opinion, but Bob probably never gave it a chance, you know how some people watched the cartoon Alice when they were kids and then when they saw the trailer for this they were like "oooohhh, its bashing my child hood memories! its so ugly I dont like it!"

To be honest, as soon as I saw that Jonny Depp was in it I thought, "Oh for the love of god, not this again". I don't know why him and Burton don't just get married already. The whole gothic thing was great... 10 years ago. Now it's starting to wear incredibly thin.

Yet again arrgh fuck those battlefield ad's i'm not watching any more vids on here till they fuck off!

Drodgyn:
I really liked the movie, but the review was still 100% accurate. Granted it wasn't my favorite Alice in Wonderland adaptation (that honor still goes to American McGee's Alice -- that guy has either the best or the worst name ever; not sure which). But I wholeheartedly agree that Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was Burton's worst film.

God yes, I was hoping for something very American McGee

Who here is honestly surprised that this movie blows shit?
Really.

Seems like Burton MISSED THE FUCKING POINT! This looked god awful and I'm glad someone called Burton(not that others didn't) on it.

Chimaera:
Well, I was looking forward to this one but it sounds like if I wait a week or two (and naturally matinee it), or even forget entirely and end up Netflixing it later I won't be too bad off.

Shame, because it looked like it could be so good.

I never really enjoyed Tim Burtons style. he always makes it LOOK great but its like he painted sand to make it look like chocolate...only its a litter box full of poo

Skeleon:
Huh, as I actually like his take on Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory, I might like this movie too, I guess.

My logic. I'm going to see it tomorrow.

I'll probably still go to see it, if only because it has Stephen Fry and his midas touch as the Cheshire Cat, and CHRISTOPHER LEE AS THE JABBERWOCK! MY DREAMS HAVE COME TRUE!

I think the best film adaptation of "Alice in Wonderland" is Jan Ővankmajer's 1988 film "Alice" ("Nýco z Alenky"). It's got great little bizarre touches like the White Rabbit constantly leaking his stuffing and having to eat sawdust to fill himself back up.

Im glad that we can agree that Alice in wonderland was total crap.
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With all due respect Bob, I want to watch a movie review. If I wanted to watch a political shitstorm I'd watch CNN.

Gxas:
American McGee's Alice did something right that not many other spin-offs have been able to do. It was good. It was different, it was gothic, it was good. It took what every kid who goes to Hot Topic thinks they represent and made it awesome. Hell, I'll bet most of those Hot Topic kids would never even touch the game because of how grotesque it can be.

I want to add in my two cents on this - American Mcgee's rendition was pure excellence.

Alice was everything that Alice in Wonderland should be: Surreal, grotesque, and ultraviolent.
Even the setting was dark, strange, and disturbing - Wonderland at it's finest.
Bring on the sequel! Whoo!

Yeah burton has never really made a quote 'good' movie imo. They're all kinda just excuses to see cool and weird stuff. Which eh is enough for me, I've seen all his other movies, might as well go see this one too.

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Loved the special message. I've hated a lot of Tim Burton's movies expect for one. Sweeny Todd. And I've have yet to watch a Nightmare before Christmas and refuse too. Judging by your review, this is crap. Thank you moviebob

I think you mean "Judging by your review, you are crap. Thank you bob"

But in all seriousness, if I WAS to listen to a critic I'll listen to Ebert, a PROFESSIONAL who has spent his whole career (or at least a damn many years) reviewing movies, also don't listen to critics, go see the movie (theater or pirated) and judge for yourself, don't let other people decide for you, that's just fucking stupid

I laughed hard. You do know what a reviewer is right? Someone who gives an unbiased opinion on something after taking into consideration every aspect of something. A professional opinion giver is an oxymoron.

Well at least Ebert has some credentials (as in he's spent years doing it) but it seems bob hates a lot of movies and besides Tim Burton's Alice is the best live adaptation yet

Again, it's all based on opinion, no amount of 'professionalism' will change that. The reviewer you like is no more qualified than Movie Bob, since taste is not an objective thing.

Everything is based on opinion, but Bob probably never gave it a chance, you know how some people watched the cartoon Alice when they were kids and then when they saw the trailer for this they were like "oooohhh, its bashing my child hood memories! its so ugly I dont like it!"

To be honest, as soon as I saw that Jonny Depp was in it I thought, "Oh for the love of god, not this again". I don't know why him and Burton don't just get married already. The whole gothic thing was great... 10 years ago. Now it's starting to wear incredibly thin.

Well you could say the same for Martin Scorsese and Leo

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Loved the special message. I've hated a lot of Tim Burton's movies expect for one. Sweeny Todd. And I've have yet to watch a Nightmare before Christmas and refuse too. Judging by your review, this is crap. Thank you moviebob

I think you mean "Judging by your review, you are crap. Thank you bob"

But in all seriousness, if I WAS to listen to a critic I'll listen to Ebert, a PROFESSIONAL who has spent his whole career (or at least a damn many years) reviewing movies, also don't listen to critics, go see the movie (theater or pirated) and judge for yourself, don't let other people decide for you, that's just fucking stupid

I laughed hard. You do know what a reviewer is right? Someone who gives an unbiased opinion on something after taking into consideration every aspect of something. A professional opinion giver is an oxymoron.

Well at least Ebert has some credentials (as in he's spent years doing it) but it seems bob hates a lot of movies and besides Tim Burton's Alice is the best live adaptation yet

Again, it's all based on opinion, no amount of 'professionalism' will change that. The reviewer you like is no more qualified than Movie Bob, since taste is not an objective thing.

Everything is based on opinion, but Bob probably never gave it a chance, you know how some people watched the cartoon Alice when they were kids and then when they saw the trailer for this they were like "oooohhh, its bashing my child hood memories! its so ugly I dont like it!"

To be honest, as soon as I saw that Jonny Depp was in it I thought, "Oh for the love of god, not this again". I don't know why him and Burton don't just get married already. The whole gothic thing was great... 10 years ago. Now it's starting to wear incredibly thin.

Well you could say the same for Martin Scorsese and Leo

The difference there is that it isn't used as a crutch for his movies. While Burton and Depp on the other hand, attract every screaming fan-girl under the sun. People won't see the film because it's Alice, they'll see it for Depp.

Im still going to watch it

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Loved the special message. I've hated a lot of Tim Burton's movies expect for one. Sweeny Todd. And I've have yet to watch a Nightmare before Christmas and refuse too. Judging by your review, this is crap. Thank you moviebob

I think you mean "Judging by your review, you are crap. Thank you bob"

But in all seriousness, if I WAS to listen to a critic I'll listen to Ebert, a PROFESSIONAL who has spent his whole career (or at least a damn many years) reviewing movies, also don't listen to critics, go see the movie (theater or pirated) and judge for yourself, don't let other people decide for you, that's just fucking stupid

I laughed hard. You do know what a reviewer is right? Someone who gives an unbiased opinion on something after taking into consideration every aspect of something. A professional opinion giver is an oxymoron.

Well at least Ebert has some credentials (as in he's spent years doing it) but it seems bob hates a lot of movies and besides Tim Burton's Alice is the best live adaptation yet

Again, it's all based on opinion, no amount of 'professionalism' will change that. The reviewer you like is no more qualified than Movie Bob, since taste is not an objective thing.

Everything is based on opinion, but Bob probably never gave it a chance, you know how some people watched the cartoon Alice when they were kids and then when they saw the trailer for this they were like "oooohhh, its bashing my child hood memories! its so ugly I dont like it!"

To be honest, as soon as I saw that Jonny Depp was in it I thought, "Oh for the love of god, not this again". I don't know why him and Burton don't just get married already. The whole gothic thing was great... 10 years ago. Now it's starting to wear incredibly thin.

Well you could say the same for Martin Scorsese and Leo

The difference there is that it isn't used as a crutch for his movies. While Burton and Depp on the other hand, attract every screaming fan-girl under the sun. People won't see the film because it's Alice, they'll see it for Depp.

Well I simply used Martin and Leo as a example for Directors who always have their favourite actor in some if not all their movies, annnnd why are you saying fan girl? (im just wondering what girls have to do with it)

It's times like this that I recall a quote from Statler and Waldorf.

Waldorf: What's that sound?
Statler: I think that's Lewis Caroll (spelled right?) spinning in his grave.

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Loved the special message. I've hated a lot of Tim Burton's movies expect for one. Sweeny Todd. And I've have yet to watch a Nightmare before Christmas and refuse too. Judging by your review, this is crap. Thank you moviebob

I think you mean "Judging by your review, you are crap. Thank you bob"

But in all seriousness, if I WAS to listen to a critic I'll listen to Ebert, a PROFESSIONAL who has spent his whole career (or at least a damn many years) reviewing movies, also don't listen to critics, go see the movie (theater or pirated) and judge for yourself, don't let other people decide for you, that's just fucking stupid

I laughed hard. You do know what a reviewer is right? Someone who gives an unbiased opinion on something after taking into consideration every aspect of something. A professional opinion giver is an oxymoron.

Well at least Ebert has some credentials (as in he's spent years doing it) but it seems bob hates a lot of movies and besides Tim Burton's Alice is the best live adaptation yet

Again, it's all based on opinion, no amount of 'professionalism' will change that. The reviewer you like is no more qualified than Movie Bob, since taste is not an objective thing.

Everything is based on opinion, but Bob probably never gave it a chance, you know how some people watched the cartoon Alice when they were kids and then when they saw the trailer for this they were like "oooohhh, its bashing my child hood memories! its so ugly I dont like it!"

To be honest, as soon as I saw that Jonny Depp was in it I thought, "Oh for the love of god, not this again". I don't know why him and Burton don't just get married already. The whole gothic thing was great... 10 years ago. Now it's starting to wear incredibly thin.

Well you could say the same for Martin Scorsese and Leo

The difference there is that it isn't used as a crutch for his movies. While Burton and Depp on the other hand, attract every screaming fan-girl under the sun. People won't see the film because it's Alice, they'll see it for Depp.

Well I simply used Martin and Leo as a example for Directors who always have their favourite actor in some if not all their movies, annnnd why are you saying fan girl? (im just wondering what girls have to do with it)

They fall into the same fandom as Twilight, the vast majority of Depp/Burton fans are screaming fan girls who, regarldess of Depp's peformance, will think it was the best piece of acting they've ever seen. Don't get me wrong, I give credit where credit is due, Nightmare Before Christmas was amazing (Lacking Jonny Depp oddly enough), but the kind of fans he draws are intolerable, for frankly, pretty average movies.

I'm afraid I cannot agree with MovieBob on this one.

For me at least, there's an appeal in not just story from a movie, but the world it is grounded in. If the characters in a tale feel believable and likeable, who are living in a world that is different and unusual, then that can make a movie feel well and truly golden.

Tim Burton has some habits that are tiresome, for example his constant use of Johnny Depp and his obsession with his gothic niche, aswell as a clumsiness with stirring up a great story. In my eyes though, he's an intelligent man. I believe this because he does enough things right to pardon his hiccups. Let's take Alice and her amazing Wonderland for an example. Alice created Wonderland when she was a little girl; it's full of disgusting trifles like spitting and urine of an unpronouncable animal, along with impossible wonders like evapourating cats and talking animals. It expresses a kid fantasy in which they are the hero to save the day. Considering that Alice is older now though, she has had experiences in her life and has met people who stick out in her mind. For instance, there are two identical sisters constantly arguing with eachother over trivial things, and when you step into Wonderland, you'll instantly be able to se resemblances between two certain lookalikes. Coupled with this are noble-like figures with snobbish tendancies, a collection of suck-ups and yesmen who only serve to spare their heads being lopped off (obviously being the incarnation of the upper-class Alce has been around her teen years) aswell as british accents and traditions (hell, the Queen of Hearts is the Blackadder Elizabeth incarnate), and conversations and habits of the characters involved are of a distinct and unique yet human quality that they are an absolute delight to behold.

In short, if you're not entirely sure on this movie, all I can say is that you'll never truly know until you check it out. Don't let anybody (including me, mind) cloud your judgement on whether a movie/game/whatever is good or not because we are all different and of different tastes. We are human and we are unique. Let it show.

I saw the movie and I liked it.

yeah there were some weird bits here and there like when Johnny Depp started to break dance at the end, but hey he's suppose to be nutter than a nutri-bar. Dormouse, March hare, and the ever so loveable dodo bird are voiced by soem great actors and what they do is relevent..

I liked it

Jabberwock is an awsome monster

I might go see it again.

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Loved the special message. I've hated a lot of Tim Burton's movies expect for one. Sweeny Todd. And I've have yet to watch a Nightmare before Christmas and refuse too. Judging by your review, this is crap. Thank you moviebob

I think you mean "Judging by your review, you are crap. Thank you bob"

But in all seriousness, if I WAS to listen to a critic I'll listen to Ebert, a PROFESSIONAL who has spent his whole career (or at least a damn many years) reviewing movies, also don't listen to critics, go see the movie (theater or pirated) and judge for yourself, don't let other people decide for you, that's just fucking stupid

I laughed hard. You do know what a reviewer is right? Someone who gives an unbiased opinion on something after taking into consideration every aspect of something. A professional opinion giver is an oxymoron.

Well at least Ebert has some credentials (as in he's spent years doing it) but it seems bob hates a lot of movies and besides Tim Burton's Alice is the best live adaptation yet

Again, it's all based on opinion, no amount of 'professionalism' will change that. The reviewer you like is no more qualified than Movie Bob, since taste is not an objective thing.

Everything is based on opinion, but Bob probably never gave it a chance, you know how some people watched the cartoon Alice when they were kids and then when they saw the trailer for this they were like "oooohhh, its bashing my child hood memories! its so ugly I dont like it!"

To be honest, as soon as I saw that Jonny Depp was in it I thought, "Oh for the love of god, not this again". I don't know why him and Burton don't just get married already. The whole gothic thing was great... 10 years ago. Now it's starting to wear incredibly thin.

Well you could say the same for Martin Scorsese and Leo

The difference there is that it isn't used as a crutch for his movies. While Burton and Depp on the other hand, attract every screaming fan-girl under the sun. People won't see the film because it's Alice, they'll see it for Depp.

Well I simply used Martin and Leo as a example for Directors who always have their favourite actor in some if not all their movies, annnnd why are you saying fan girl? (im just wondering what girls have to do with it)

They fall into the same fandom as Twilight, the vast majority of Depp/Burton fans are screaming fan girls who, regarldess of Depp's peformance, will think it was the best piece of acting they've ever seen. Don't get me wrong, I give credit where credit is due, Nightmare Before Christmas was amazing (Lacking Jonny Depp oddly enough), but the kind of fans he draws are intolerable, for frankly, pretty average movies.

Okay thank you very much kind sir, it explains a lot, and makes me less angry at bob, but to add im the kind of guy who found Plan 9 from Outer Space interesting and also is the kind of person who gets angry when they say something I like sucks and really bashes it like bob did, also off topic....what happened to plans 1 through 8???

Racecar1994:
In short, if you're not entirely sure on this movie, all I can say is that you'll never truly know until you check it out. Don't let anybody (including me, mind) cloud your judgement on whether a movie/game/whatever is good or not because we are all different and of different tastes. We are human and we are unique. Let it show.

Couldn't have said it better. Just because someone has different tastes, dosen't mean your going to hate what they hate. Oh, and awesome display picture, is it Toy Story 2?

OT: No matter what anyone may say, I'm going to watch it, because Steven Fry is the cat. No better person for it.

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Loved the special message. I've hated a lot of Tim Burton's movies expect for one. Sweeny Todd. And I've have yet to watch a Nightmare before Christmas and refuse too. Judging by your review, this is crap. Thank you moviebob

I think you mean "Judging by your review, you are crap. Thank you bob"

But in all seriousness, if I WAS to listen to a critic I'll listen to Ebert, a PROFESSIONAL who has spent his whole career (or at least a damn many years) reviewing movies, also don't listen to critics, go see the movie (theater or pirated) and judge for yourself, don't let other people decide for you, that's just fucking stupid

I laughed hard. You do know what a reviewer is right? Someone who gives an unbiased opinion on something after taking into consideration every aspect of something. A professional opinion giver is an oxymoron.

Well at least Ebert has some credentials (as in he's spent years doing it) but it seems bob hates a lot of movies and besides Tim Burton's Alice is the best live adaptation yet

Again, it's all based on opinion, no amount of 'professionalism' will change that. The reviewer you like is no more qualified than Movie Bob, since taste is not an objective thing.

Everything is based on opinion, but Bob probably never gave it a chance, you know how some people watched the cartoon Alice when they were kids and then when they saw the trailer for this they were like "oooohhh, its bashing my child hood memories! its so ugly I dont like it!"

To be honest, as soon as I saw that Jonny Depp was in it I thought, "Oh for the love of god, not this again". I don't know why him and Burton don't just get married already. The whole gothic thing was great... 10 years ago. Now it's starting to wear incredibly thin.

Well you could say the same for Martin Scorsese and Leo

The difference there is that it isn't used as a crutch for his movies. While Burton and Depp on the other hand, attract every screaming fan-girl under the sun. People won't see the film because it's Alice, they'll see it for Depp.

Well I simply used Martin and Leo as a example for Directors who always have their favourite actor in some if not all their movies, annnnd why are you saying fan girl? (im just wondering what girls have to do with it)

They fall into the same fandom as Twilight, the vast majority of Depp/Burton fans are screaming fan girls who, regarldess of Depp's peformance, will think it was the best piece of acting they've ever seen. Don't get me wrong, I give credit where credit is due, Nightmare Before Christmas was amazing (Lacking Jonny Depp oddly enough), but the kind of fans he draws are intolerable, for frankly, pretty average movies.

Okay thank you very much kind sir, it explains a lot, and makes me less angry at bob, but to add im the kind of guy who found Plan 9 from Outer Space interesting and also is the kind of person who gets angry when they say something I like sucks and really bashes it like bob did, also off topic....what happened to plans 1 through 8???

To be fair to Movie Bob, he has reasons for not liking it, the same as you having reasons to like. It's just a conflict of opinion at the end of the day. If you enjoyed the film then good for you, but it's for the reasons that Movie Bob mentioned that I wouldn't enjoy it.
At least this was an intelligent discussion, and I thank you for that.

Much better than the typical. "OMG!!!111ONEONE YOU KNOW LIKE JNNY DEEEPP??! YOU ID GAY!!!1111ONEONEONE"

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Loved the special message. I've hated a lot of Tim Burton's movies expect for one. Sweeny Todd. And I've have yet to watch a Nightmare before Christmas and refuse too. Judging by your review, this is crap. Thank you moviebob

I think you mean "Judging by your review, you are crap. Thank you bob"

But in all seriousness, if I WAS to listen to a critic I'll listen to Ebert, a PROFESSIONAL who has spent his whole career (or at least a damn many years) reviewing movies, also don't listen to critics, go see the movie (theater or pirated) and judge for yourself, don't let other people decide for you, that's just fucking stupid

I laughed hard. You do know what a reviewer is right? Someone who gives an unbiased opinion on something after taking into consideration every aspect of something. A professional opinion giver is an oxymoron.

Well at least Ebert has some credentials (as in he's spent years doing it) but it seems bob hates a lot of movies and besides Tim Burton's Alice is the best live adaptation yet

Again, it's all based on opinion, no amount of 'professionalism' will change that. The reviewer you like is no more qualified than Movie Bob, since taste is not an objective thing.

Everything is based on opinion, but Bob probably never gave it a chance, you know how some people watched the cartoon Alice when they were kids and then when they saw the trailer for this they were like "oooohhh, its bashing my child hood memories! its so ugly I dont like it!"

To be honest, as soon as I saw that Jonny Depp was in it I thought, "Oh for the love of god, not this again". I don't know why him and Burton don't just get married already. The whole gothic thing was great... 10 years ago. Now it's starting to wear incredibly thin.

Well you could say the same for Martin Scorsese and Leo

The difference there is that it isn't used as a crutch for his movies. While Burton and Depp on the other hand, attract every screaming fan-girl under the sun. People won't see the film because it's Alice, they'll see it for Depp.

Well I simply used Martin and Leo as a example for Directors who always have their favourite actor in some if not all their movies, annnnd why are you saying fan girl? (im just wondering what girls have to do with it)

They fall into the same fandom as Twilight, the vast majority of Depp/Burton fans are screaming fan girls who, regarldess of Depp's peformance, will think it was the best piece of acting they've ever seen. Don't get me wrong, I give credit where credit is due, Nightmare Before Christmas was amazing (Lacking Jonny Depp oddly enough), but the kind of fans he draws are intolerable, for frankly, pretty average movies.

Okay thank you very much kind sir, it explains a lot, and makes me less angry at bob, but to add im the kind of guy who found Plan 9 from Outer Space interesting and also is the kind of person who gets angry when they say something I like sucks and really bashes it like bob did, also off topic....what happened to plans 1 through 8???

To be fair to Movie Bob, he has reasons for not liking it, the same as you having reasons to like. It's just a conflict of opinion at the end of the day. If you enjoyed the film then good for you, but it's for the reasons that Movie Bob mentioned that I wouldn't enjoy it.
At least this was an intelligent discussion, and I thank you for that.

Much better than the typical. "OMG!!!111ONEONE YOU KNOW LIKE JNNY DEEEPP??! YOU ID GAY!!!1111ONEONEONE"

But I'm also angry at the fact that after I watch a video review of Bob's or yahtzee's and then I see people be like "OMG! I'm SO glad I watched your review now I'll NEVER get it"

you know, the people who listen to other people without deciding for themselves, I suppose that's what started my rage but yeah thank you for not....okay well you didn't do anything wrong I suppose so I dont know what i can thank you for oh wait, thanks for explaining more

maninahat:

One of my favourites, besides the old disney cartoon, would be the 1999 NBC television film http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_in_Wonderland_(1999_film). That one at least makes some reference to the fact that Alice through the Looking Glass is a seperate story(i.e - the sequel Tim Burton probably should have tried to make), rather than just lumping characters from either stories into one narrative.

i saw that movie in school. I thought it was kinda meh.

OT: not surprised one bit.

hubertw47:

neoman10:

hubertw47:
I don't like the look's of this film, reminds me of across the universe too much.

oi! Any film based of Beatles songs is good

No that film was a big pile of poo-poo.

i liked that movie >.<

But... but I was looking forward to seeing a good film and... and...
*sobs*
*pulls out gun and sticks it in mouth*

Dark Templar:

Quiet Stranger:

Daystar Clarion:

Quiet Stranger:

Aura Guardian:
Loved the special message. I've hated a lot of Tim Burton's movies expect for one. Sweeny Todd. And I've have yet to watch a Nightmare before Christmas and refuse too. Judging by your review, this is crap. Thank you moviebob

I think you mean "Judging by your review, you are crap. Thank you bob"

But in all seriousness, if I WAS to listen to a critic I'll listen to Ebert, a PROFESSIONAL who has spent his whole career (or at least a damn many years) reviewing movies, also don't listen to critics, go see the movie (theater or pirated) and judge for yourself, don't let other people decide for you, that's just fucking stupid

I laughed hard. You do know what a reviewer is right? Someone who gives an unbiased opinion on something after taking into consideration every aspect of something. A professional opinion giver is an oxymoron.

Well at least Ebert has some credentials (as in he's spent years doing it) but it seems bob hates a lot of movies and besides Tim Burton's Alice is the best live adaptation yet

I DISAGREE WITH MOVIEBOB!!! FLAME FLAME FLAME!!!

Seriously, Moviebob's reviews are alwase thoughtful, intelligent, and completely to the point. He provides valid reasons why most people might not like this movie ad he does so in an intelligent manner like a professional. If you don't like him you don't have to watch or post here at all.

Oh and if you honestly thought Tim Burton's horrible movie was the best adaptation yet then you haven't seen American McGee's Alice. Or heck, even the disney movie was better than this.

Dark Templar:

Quiet Stranger:

Daystar Clarion:

Quiet Stranger:

Aura Guardian:
Loved the special message. I've hated a lot of Tim Burton's movies expect for one. Sweeny Todd. And I've have yet to watch a Nightmare before Christmas and refuse too. Judging by your review, this is crap. Thank you moviebob

I think you mean "Judging by your review, you are crap. Thank you bob"

But in all seriousness, if I WAS to listen to a critic I'll listen to Ebert, a PROFESSIONAL who has spent his whole career (or at least a damn many years) reviewing movies, also don't listen to critics, go see the movie (theater or pirated) and judge for yourself, don't let other people decide for you, that's just fucking stupid

I laughed hard. You do know what a reviewer is right? Someone who gives an unbiased opinion on something after taking into consideration every aspect of something. A professional opinion giver is an oxymoron.

Well at least Ebert has some credentials (as in he's spent years doing it) but it seems bob hates a lot of movies and besides Tim Burton's Alice is the best live adaptation yet

I DISAGREE WITH MOVIEBOB!!! FLAME FLAME FLAME!!!

Seriously, Moviebob's reviews are alwase thoughtful, intelligent, and completely to the point. He provides valid reasons why most people might not like this movie ad he does so in an intelligent manner like a professional. If you don't like him you don't have to watch or post here at all.

Oh and if you honestly thought Tim Burton's horrible movie was the best adaptation yet then you haven't seen American McGee's Alice. Or heck, even the disney movie was better than this.

And to go more on what dark templar was saying. Why are you getting mad that people are listening to a review thats what they are for. Also if you took time to listen to movie bob he lists good thoughtful reasons why I movie is bad or good. But dont get mad at other peoples choices cause here is the thing there choices dont affect you.

Hybridwolf:

Racecar1994:
In short, if you're not entirely sure on this movie, all I can say is that you'll never truly know until you check it out. Don't let anybody (including me, mind) cloud your judgement on whether a movie/game/whatever is good or not because we are all different and of different tastes. We are human and we are unique. Let it show.

Couldn't have said it better. Just because someone has different tastes, dosen't mean your going to hate what they hate. Oh, and awesome display picture, is it Toy Story 2?

OT: No matter what anyone may say, I'm going to watch it, because Steven Fry is the cat. No better person for it.

Yep. Originally it was gonna be Buzz, but the pic was being stubborn for a while; then I noticed the creepy guy and remembered his laughably comic chicken suit. I figured that guy needed some luv <3

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