Escape to the Movies: Alice in Wonderland

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Skeleon:
Huh, as I actually like his take on Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory, I might like this movie too, I guess.

His version was smarter and more up-to-date than the old one, I like the newer one too. I'm not saying i like it better, but I am saying that I liked that movie for different reasons. I am going to go see the new Alice in Wonderland because I like Burton's take on things. I'll probably like this one too.

ma55ter_fett:
The link apears to be broken.

Aparently if I had waited 30 seconds more the video would have finished being uploaded to the site, live and learn I guess.

Disapointed that the Bob thinks the movie sucked, I was kind of thinking of going to see it.

See it anyway. I never listen to Movie Bob myself, though I do rate his videos. I never listen to any critics, because at the end of the day half of them are biased anyway and all of them are simply spewing their own opinion. Movie Bob is great, but as a critic I never listen to what he says, because I make up my own opinion. I'll be seeing this film myself in a few weeks with friends, provided nothing comes up before then, and I like pretty much all of Tim Burton's work so far, when a lot of people don't (for some reason). Watch this anyway and make up your own mind. Don't let the critics tell you what to see and what not to see. Otherwise, what makes you any better than the sort of people who spout out Yahtzee quotes and proclaim Halo and Gears of War are Teh Gayzorz and have no mind of their own?

(I understand Yahtzee and Movie Bob are different. But my point still stands...)

Oh my god, I fucking hate this show.

1. Stop ripping off ZP
2. Stop playing the sound clip from the start over the top of current audio at 1:40.

wait, I thought it was based off of American McGee's "Alice". well, that was the only bit of interest I had in it, so I really don't care. why does he have a broadsword anyway?

This is... interesting. I will definitely go see the movie anyway though.

But, more importantly..

Seriouly, the "new" player is messed up.

I get it guys. You want us to look at advertisments to make money of your video series. I respect that, and it's deserved. But could you make it in a way that does not screw up video rendering on slow machines? Try watching this on a netbook in battery mode, and you'll see what a mess this is.

Now, I shall report my own post to get myself heard.

A battle sequence? The Madhatter with a broadsword?...???

0o

Loved the Hot Topic joke at the end though...lol

Odd, the majority of reviews I've read are saying it's quite O.K. And Stephen Fry is in it, which just demands watching.

I don't think MovieBob is looking for attention, I just think he's very opinonated and pasionate. Plus annoying any side of a big argument is hilarious.

This whole movie just seemed like a piece of self-indulgent crap, Just like every other Tim Burton movie, save for a few (Nightmare Before Christmas, Sweeney Todd, Edward Scissorhands.)
Tim Burton has said he's planning to redo his old movie "Frankenweenie." Now that could be good. Don't let him slaughter another childrens classic!!!

Hey, Moviebob! I disagree with half of your reviews and that is perfectly fine.

I don't get angry when reading through the http://www.rottentomatoes.com/ So I don't have any negative feelings for your criticisms because I know what that means.

I liked Charlie and the chocolate factory until I realized that Depp was the focus of the story and not charlie. Sweeney Todd wasn't bad just really predictable; I refuse to watch Avatar since I have strong feelings against bestiality(Zoophilia); And the sarcasm that you showed in the first seconds of this new clip was quite funny.

Well, seeing this I hope that when American Mcgee makes his movie "Oz", Tim Burton won't be asked to direct; Clive Barker however...

Dexiro:

I thought that was an awesome movie, at least compared to the old one.
Not that I'm saying the old one was bad, i loved that too, but the remake added more a ton more personality and exploration.

I know you tried to make up for it, and I do appreciate that...but still...=(

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lol

Johann Goethe:
So his main argument is that while it looks very nice, it's let down by a clichéd plot?

His argument was they turned Alice in Wonderland into Narnia/LOTR, that's all I needed to hear to know the movie is bad....=/

You could argue how Avatar was turned into Dances with Wolves, but Avatar's story hasn't been around for almost 150 years.....you're bastardizing the work by giving it a facelift like that....=/

Aura Guardian:
Loved the special message. I've hated a lot of Tim Burton's movies expect for one. Sweeny Todd. And I've have yet to watch a Nightmare before Christmas and refuse too. Judging by your review, this is crap. Thank you moviebob

What about Beetlejuice, Batman (1989, yes, the one with Jack Nicholson as the joker), Batman Returns, Ed Wood and Planet of the Apes (2001)? Those were all pretty good IMO. Especially Ed Wood, that was such an awesome movie if you're an Ed Wood fan.

It just bugs me how people hate on Burton but disregard every movie he's made before 2005.

I could see it coming... I could tell that it would be a "Oh look, I'm creepy!" Tim Burton movie where he tries too hard to make a Tim Burton movie. Also, I would be able to stand the amount of 13 year old girls flooding the theater to go see it...

I hate ALL Tim Burton movies. EVERY SINGLE ONE.

I knew this movie would be fail from the moment I saw it advertised when I went to see Avatar.(which by the way was still making millions on its 11th week before wonderfail pulled it).

I knew it! I like Tim Burton (sometimes), but I had a feeling this would have been bad.

But Bob, how was the acting? Yes, Burton over-uses Johnny Depp and Helena Bonham Carter, but you can't deny they are both great actors.

All reviews are worth exactly as much as the arguments they present to back up their observations, which is why these capsules are inherently worthless if seen as serious works of criticism. Which is fine, because they are amusing.

That said, I am bemused, if not surprised, that Bob thinks the original Lewis Carroll novel is "whimsical".

I knew well ahead of time that this movie wasn't going to be what everyone makes it up to be. Oh sure, I was excited to hear Burton's weird-ass adapt the story of Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. But the more I saw the trailers, the more I realize how full of sh*t the film was. When I go to see a movie about the titular character, I want to see that character. Not the best friend of the director, nor his damn wife. Hell, Tim Burton may as well have married Johnny Depp, just to make it official.

I still plan to see this movie, but I'm going to wait until I get a chance to catch the matinee. There's no way I'm paying full price for it.

Aura Guardian:
Loved the special message. I've hated a lot of Tim Burton's movies expect for one. Sweeny Todd. And I've have yet to watch a Nightmare before Christmas and refuse too. Judging by your review, this is crap. Thank you moviebob

You know it's not even a Tim Burton movie, right?

It was just produced by him

Was it just me or was the mad hatters split personality William Wallice (aka braveheart)?

Quiet Stranger:

Aura Guardian:
Loved the special message. I've hated a lot of Tim Burton's movies expect for one. Sweeny Todd. And I've have yet to watch a Nightmare before Christmas and refuse too. Judging by your review, this is crap. Thank you moviebob

I think you mean "Judging by your review, you are crap. Thank you bob"

But in all seriousness, if I WAS to listen to a critic I'll listen to Ebert, a PROFESSIONAL who has spent his whole career (or at least a damn many years) reviewing movies, also don't listen to critics, go see the movie (theater or pirated) and judge for yourself, don't let other people decide for you, that's just fucking stupid

I agree. Don't let other people decide what you like for you. People seem to be so afraid of losing their "super indie, I only watch/play/do good shit all the time and I must look down on anyone who likes anything that is not perfect" persona's that they ending just seeming like stuck up, condescending assholes. It's really rather sad.

I don't think that Moviebob said all the bad things he said in last weeks review just to create controversy, I think that he truly believes it and feels that way. It's just that it seems very closed minded and limiting to oneself to have an attitude like that and it really has made me not look at him as an objective movie reviewer anymore.

I was looking forward to this, not I'm havinh second thoughts. Still going to see it, but now it might be via DVD.

Why a big battle in the end?! Can't be more stupid... :'-(

I'm not terribly surprised at all. I can't say I agree or disagree with bob, as I haven't seen it yet. Though, I am getting rather sick of Burton. I was thinking about skipping it...but spring break is next week and I have disposable income. I'll do it out of boredom.

Jaranja:

Sylocat:
Again, I thank the Escapist for that ad, which will drastically reduce the number of people with brains who will actually buy that game, thus keeping the multiplayer servers of games I like free of morons.

Wouldn't it just increase the number of people that aren't morons? It would shift the ratio, methinks.

Well, yeah, that's what I meant. Sorry if I was too wordy.

Who the fuck cares what critics (especially Movie Bob, who I think is just trying to imitate Yahtzee) has to say. Who the hell goes to a movie like this expecting anything more than eye candy and good entertainment anyway? Who gives a shit how bad the story is or that The Mad Hatter has a broadsword? It's a movie! It's not made to be deep and provocative, it's made to be entertaining! And even if someone like Movie Bob thinks it isn't, that really just convinces me even more that it is, because all critics ever seem to have on their minds is looking clever, like they actually care about/understand deep stories and characters.

So all of you guys who wanted to see this and now don't just because some guy on FUCKING ESCAPIST thinks it's bad...

WHAT THE HELL?

'Twasn't a bad movie, according to meself, but other people in the cinema weren't entirely impressed with it. I heard one parent say to his kid "I'm going to show the you good Alice in Wonderland, the cartoon one."

But, meh. Stephen Fry was a talking Cat.

Just want to say first, that opening was the second most awesome thing I've seen on this site.

Back on topic: well, shit. I didn't expect anything really outstanding from Tim Burton, but dammit all, I was at least hoping this might turn out okay by virtue of the source material alone. Why can't Tim Burton let the story flow the way it's supposed to instead of fucking around with it until it becomes something else entirely?

But.... b-b-but....
But it's a Tim Burton movie....
*cries fanboy tears*

Why did they have to ruin Alice in Wonderland? This sounds more like Narnia on drugs.

I didn't actually think Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was terrible, so this is probably the worst Tim Burton movie for me.

I skipped the first 30 seconds to get to the review. MovieBob, I know criticism is annoying, but I'd rather you just focus on doing reviews for the people just enjoy your reviews.

Anyways, I agree: Burton's Wonka was rather disappointing.

To all the people saying that we should stop listening to critics and watch a movie ourselves to determine whether or not we should watch the movie: What is wrong with you? Does basic logic just not come up in your day to day life? Did you get dropped on the head as a kid? Are you just a filmmaker who's peeved at people for calling their crappy work crap? Seriously, I'd like to know why these people keep popping up.

It's like they're just attention whores who say something they think is profound but actually just comes off as pretentious, shallow and empty. If people did what they are suggesting, good movies would have stopped being made a century ago. "Hey, they're going to spend money on our movies anyway. Just make the trailers look pretty and we can fill the rest of the film with Taylor Mead's Ass for all we care."

I'm starting to get angry at my confusion, so I'll calm my self down at snarking less irritating comments.

MatsVS:
All reviews are worth exactly as much as the arguments they present to back up their observations, which is why these capsules are inherently worthless if seen as serious works of criticism. Which is fine, because they are amusing.

Hey, Moviebob's got intellegent arguments. He's got intellegent arguments coming out of his ass!

SomeUnregPunk:
I refuse to watch Avatar since I have strong feelings against bestiality(Zoophilia);

What does Beastiality have to do with anything? You can't be talking about the yoo-hoo between two consenting communicative adults.

Or are you just racist?

RJ Dalton:
Back on topic: well, shit. I didn't expect anything really outstanding from Tim Burton, but dammit all, I was at least hoping this might turn out okay by virtue of the source material alone. Why can't Tim Burton let the story flow the way it's supposed to instead of fucking around with it until it becomes something else entirely?

Tim Burton has never been good when it comes to adaptations. Even his Batman movies had severe if subtle flaws.

PoisonUnagi:
1. Stop ripping off ZP

Oh, that's so clever. Did you make that up yourself or did your Mommy help you?

Seriously though, if Bob should stop ripping off Yahtzee, then Yahtzee should stop ripping off Dennis Miller.

Eeeee... scathing...
Well, I'll still see it but I won't have as high of expectations as I used to.

Interesting review bob. I give you that. Tempted to watch it now, just to see the stuff you pinted out about it

I knew it would be bad. When I first saw the commercials for this movie I thought, wow this movie is going to give a bunch kids a nightmare.

Nomanslander:

His argument was they turned Alice in Wonderland into Narnia/LOTR, that's all I needed to hear to know the movie is bad....=/

You could argue how Avatar was turned into Dances with Wolves, but Avatar's story hasn't been around for almost 150 years.....you're bastardizing the work by giving it a facelift like that....=/

Will people stop with the "Avatar is such and such" crap?

Really, neither Dances with Wolves nor Pocahontas have an exclusive on that genre. Not to mention that it is not the same thing at all, Avatar is an original story, it can't be Dances with Wolves turned into sci-fi because it has absolutely nothing to do with Dances with Wolves.

So you are right, but for all the wrong reasons.

ucciolord1:
But.... b-b-but....
But it's a Tim Burton movie....
*cries fanboy tears*

Yeah, I hate to break this to you, but the last good movie Tim Burton made was Sleepy Hollow, and that came out in 1999. The man is creatively bankrupt, which isn't really surprising. His goth, manierist visual style isn't exactly a slow burn and, a bit like Spielberg, he never quite made the jump to CG all that well.

The one thing that surprises me at this point is why he has decided to revisit Frankenweenie instead of giving a shot to his more grounded self by following up on Ed Wood.

Tikicobra:
Who gives a shit how bad the story is or that The Mad Hatter has a broadsword? It's a movie! It's not made to be deep and provocative, it's made to be entertaining!

I think you just made film history implode out of sheer stupidity.

First, being deep and provocative is kind of the whole point. More so with Tim Burton, who has built a career specifically on being thematically deep and visually provocative.

Second, why do you assume that deep and provocative and character based is somehow opposed to "entertaining"? I don't know about Bob, but I can tell you I am most entertained when entertainment is deep and provocative. If it happens to have spaceships in it, well, that's a plus, but there are movies with big booms that are boring as hell (Armageddon) and movies that claim to be deep and character based that are boring as hell (Breaking the Waves), so there doesn't seem to be a connection there.

Third, as others have said above, if people didn't use movie reviews to determine whether a movie is worth watching, there wouldn't be any movie reviews, ever. That's what they are FOR. If they happen to be entertaining or enlightening that's also good, but the point is being informative.

I'm honestly surprised at the amount of criticism Bob manages to attract. I mean, the guy isn't even controversial. He's a critic of the geeky kind, which is a thing in the movie landscape, and not even a rare thing. It's a whole breed, people with a mix of kiddie nostalgia, love for the "so bad it's good" subset of movies and the shamefully neglected ability to actually understand what films are about paired with the shameful laziness of choosing escapism over art. Of course he swings from complaining about debasement of literary classics to obscure filmmaker fanboyism and popular franchise criticism. That's what those guys DO, and he actually does it pretty well.

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