Why I Won't Be Playing God of War 3

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I was thinking about this myself a while back when I was playing Plants VS Zombies, actually. Not that the game was a graphical masterpiece or anything, but in the later stages I found myself with tunnel vision, concentrating on picking up sun and dropping in replacement plants that I rarely even noticed the zombies unless they had stomped their way halfway across the yard. Then, watching reviews of some games like Bayonetta and God Of War III here on the site, I thought "Wow, those graphics are pretty sweet. Too bad the gameplay looks to frantic to much notice it when playing." It is nice once in a while to sit back and watch someone else play so you can soak in all the great graphical details the developers spend all their time on. It's another reason I like RPG's a bit more, as generally you have more time to notice the sweet character models and background details while waiting to input your next command. But that's just me.

bismarck55:
I find that I don't mind watching someone else play a game as long as their better at it than me. I get frustrated watching someone make mistakes and whatnot, especially if it's an RPG.

That's when you just make a polite little suggestion like "Hey, you know he's vulnerable to fire attacks, right?" Something not too intrusive so it doesn't feel like you're telling them how to play, but enough that you don't have to watch them fail the same fight 50 times in a row. Now if it's just bad player skill that's the problem, I don't know what to tell you.

I'd love to watch someone play Lost: Via Domus!

I recommend watching a Let's Play series of God of War 3 if you actually want to see the game but don't want to play the game.

to Ninjamedic: nope, i'm getting it to XD

OT: i won't be playing it, not cause of a lack of PS3, but because watching Kratos being pissed off for X number of hours dosen't interest me, even for a rental, GoW, for me, is a case where, it looks good, plays good and is fun, BUT for some reason i can't force myself past the fact the main character is an unlikeable asshole with no redeeming qualitys at all.

as far as 'spectacule fighters' go (thank you those who get that) i have Bayonetta and Devil May Cry 4 ( on the PS3 anyway XD)

Personally, I am not a fan of hack and slash button mashers. I havent played more than 1 hour of the whole series and it doesn't bother me much.

Susan Arendt needs a volunteer to play God of War 3 and let her watch. Any takers?

Sure, just provide the PS3, copy of the game, pay for my return flight over there, lodging, food etc. and we'll be gravy ;D

I don't have God of War 3 because I don't have a PS3.

So yeah...

I can't be the only one who isn't going to buy this for any justified reason other than the fct that Kratos killed Lazer Cat, right?

I can't say I agree with you. Although I can definitely see where you are coming from, I must say that I much prefer to be the one ripping a harpy's wings off, or the one sniping the terrorist leader, or even the one that drives the fire axe right through the psychotic meth addict's head. I always prefer the hands on approach for games (although I am totally awful) and I do get kind of bored watching my skilled friends doing this for me.

I understood what you were talking about with all of the article except for the part about horror games. If someone else has to check around the corners for me, then I am seriously dejected from the whole experience. If it is my character to guide through the ghost infested sewer, I am usually way more tense, if not then terrified.

I agree that games are fun to watch, but mostly when I'm at a friends and they're going to play whatever game they want anyway. I'd never pick watching over playing at my place.

Frankly due to a lack of game mechanic depth and polish I'd rather watch a game play itself than be forced to play it.....

Susan Arendt:
Why I Won't Be Playing God of War 3

Some games should be seen and not played.

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You make some very good points, Susan. I've seen for myself how entertaining it can be to watch someone else play, but I never considered to attribute this to the element of surprise. Even when it's quite simple, if you think about it: Playing a game means you are in control, and the character in the game (hopefully) responds just the way you told it to. A spectator, however, doesn't get this. Every move in the game comes like a surprise, just like you said. That way it can be highly entertaining to watch an epic battle unfold, more so when you know very little of the game in question.

Hey, here's an idea: Why don't we find the games that are great fun to watch while a skilled player kicks ass in it? It would be great if those of us who don't own a PS3 can enjoy Kratos' slaughterfest from a moviegoer's perspective. I think that would be perfect as a new Escapist feature: Pure gameplay videos of the leetest players around showing off their gaming skills to those who don't have the games, and/or the skills. I know I'd love to watch that, would you?

Hmm time to make a new Thread called "Why I really don't care if you play God Of War III as I will be with or without your support" ^_^

This isn't singling out the man either, its more of a standard, if I cared for other peoples opinions I'd check out a review from Yahtzee or Angry Nerd

Vigilantis:
Hmm time to make a new Thread called "Why I really don't care if you play God Of War III as I will be with or without your support" ^_^

This isn't singling out the man either, its more of a standard, if I cared for other peoples opinions I'd check out a review from Yahtzee or Angry Nerd

What man? I'm confused.

Also, this wasn't a review. Did you read the column, or just the title?

Well at least some people won't get bored this month... for me i'll wait between 6months to a year so that the prices drop... 30 bucks is a better price at amazon...

I was going to write a long post about why your reasoning is bizarre, but I have to say you're kind of right. Especially during Quick Time Events, I am focusing so much on pressing the right buttons at the right times, that I can't observe all the gory details of what is actually happening on screen.

Of course, the absolute best example of where watching a game is better than playing it is that one sequence in Metal Gear Solid 4. You know, the one where the screen is split, with Raiden fighting Vamp on one side, and you (as Snake) fighting the Metal Gears on the other. I tried watching the swordfight while battling the Metal Gears, and I got Game Over every time. Then I just stopped trying to watch the swordfight, and destroying the Metal Gears was a piece of cake.

watch a game.........DOES NOT COMPUTE!!! [Head Explodes]

elricik:
watch a game.........DOES NOT COMPUTE!!! [Head Explodes]

Quick time events= watching not playing.

A game based on quick time events DOES NOT COMPUTE!!! [Head Explodes][/quote]

Heavy rain is nice....but its no more innovative than who shot Johny rock and many other AMV games.........

I'm doing this with my roommate now. He's almost done and I won't let him play without me. Good thing too. He sucks at figuring out puzzles without trying everything first. Even if he figures out the right way, he'll attempt other things just to see if there is more than one way to do it.

I've actually had a higher blood pressure from watching him than I would from playing. His playstyle frustrates me so much...

Kitsuna10060:
to Ninjamedic: nope, i'm getting it to XD

OT: i won't be playing it, not cause of a lack of PS3, but because watching Kratos being pissed off for X number of hours dosen't interest me, even for a rental, GoW, for me, is a case where, it looks good, plays good and is fun, BUT for some reason i can't force myself past the fact the main character is an unlikeable asshole with no redeeming qualitys at all.
( on the PS3 anyway XD)

That's one of the reasons I do play the God of War games. Kratos is one of the few gaming protagonists who lacks any semblance of heroism. The first game made him out to be a tortured anti hero but by the second (and most definitely in the third) he'd bought a one way ticket to dickhead town on the asshole express. He murders, assaults, pillages and generally just acts like a self obsessed, indestructible douche who screws over anybody or anything that tries to help him.

I honestly can't think of a gaming protagonist as morally bankrupt as Kratos and that's one of the reasons he stands out.

You basically just put gaming in the same category as road trips. Being the driver can be fun but as passenger you can focus more on the scenery and other things to watch.
I like your thinking.

In both the god of war collection and now on god of war 3, my dad sits beside me and get awed by the all the awesomeness that's going on at the screen.

(I still find doing the awesomeness more fun then watching it, though.)

I'm a big fan of let's plays (watching someone else play a game with usually absurb and unrelated commentary [if you like Unskippable, imagine a whole game of that]).They're perfect for ps3 exclusives, when all I have is an Xbox360.
Highly cinematic games like Meal Gear Solid 4, final fantasy and Heavy Rain are perfect. As are atmospheric horror games like fear, where you can miss some scares if you're too engrossed in play...

I remember watching a buddy of mine play Fatal Frame 2, and thinking it was better to watch it. Then he decided to let me take over, and the experience was totally different. Never did I fully appreciate the value of controller rumbling until that moment. Fatal Frame 2 did such an amazing job with the timing and intensity that it built up anticipation like one couldn't imagine without playing...

solution... make the second controller also rumble, that way a spectator can be freaking out because of the pulsating the same as the player.

Decoy Doctorpus:
He murders, assaults, pillages and generally just acts like a self obsessed, indestructible douche who screws over anybody or anything that tries to help him.

You forgot vandalism. Think of all the statues, artifacts, artworks, valuable siege weapons and historic palaces this jackass has destroyed. Modern Greece, in the God of War timeline, would be left with a statue's lovingly carved ear and a Mount Olympus engraved with hundred-foot high letters: "KRATOS RAGED HERE".

I like to spectate some games, especially FPSes (?) that I'm interested in, but not interested enough to play; I usually act as a spotter. For God of War, I usually crank it down to easy mode so I can blitz through it and genuinely feel like a badass. Breaks the atmosphere a bit when you're being nibbled to death by a million harpies.

I think there is a very large crowd of "watchers" now because it has become just as entertaining to watch as a movie as it does to play the game.

However, I sometimes find myself incredibly frustrated when just watching, because I am someone who picks up on a lot of game nuances very fast. I quickly learn the importance of the moves you never use, of the places you don't look, on the weapons you don't use. I very quickly figure out how to beat each area faster, and better, picking out every detail that I see.

Maybe its because I can't be bothered to watch TV or Movies now. I like to be doing something while something else is going on. Regardless, I am not a "watcher" nor will I ever probably be. I'll be the one playing the game, doing the best to make it look like that is what the character would do in that situation.

In this case, being an absolute badass, and not taking any shit from anybody in my quest for destruction of the GODS!

So what I have gathered from this article is...
"Susan Arendt likes to watch"
I feel dirty.

For the most part, I agree. The only issue is...having someone that's going to keep playing consistently. Unless you live with a person like that (i.e. roommate, boyfriend/girlfriend/husband/wife), sibling), then it gets kinda frustrating when you want to see the next part and your buddy is bored (especially if he or she is stuck!). Then I just give up and buy the game myself.

If it's a game I'm never EVER going to play though, I'll just watch it. I will disagree with Silent Hill and Dead Space being scarier to watch than to play. At least for me, I find it 1000% scarier to play than to watch...when I'm in charge of my own fate, I get more tense and cautious about every turn I make. If I'm just watching, I don't give a crap about the character's fate...in fact, if they screw up and die, it's often more entertaining! :P

thats the stupidest reason i have ever heard! lol

Ninjamedic:
Am I the only person here who got mega man 10 instead?

OT: I'm teaming up with my brother to beat all three in one sitting.

You could have written "IM GOING AGAINST THE CROWD NOW" and it would have been more appropriate.

OT:
God of war is fun to play and look at. In my opinion, which I know will get flamed, I think GoWIII doesn't really look that good. The sense of scale and the details in the battles are amazing, but the textures look like polished asphalt.
Sometimes you want a game where you need 100% of your concentration to play
and sometimes you just want to mash buttons and watch heads fly off. That's what God of War is for.
If you're looking for a violent game look for "Toribash", THAT's a game most people would rather watch than play, considering it's not an easy game to master. Look it up on youtube and enjoy the carnage.

I have to admit, playing God of War 3, or even watching it, would be way better then how I'm experiencing it now, i.e. by hearing someone I know go "HOLY SHIT you should've seen what I did in God of War last night, I pushed Poseidon's eyeballs into his brain!"

LunaticFringe:
I have to admit, playing God of War 3, or even watching it, would be way better then how I'm experiencing it now, i.e. by hearing someone I know go "HOLY SHIT you should've seen what I did in God of War last night, I pushed Poseidon's eyeballs into his brain!"

yeah.
Why do they brag about it? They're SUPPOSED to do that in the game.
When they do something really cool that's not a requirement, then it's cool.
Like the stunts people do in GTA.

I was scared for a second, but I totally agree. Having just finished this gargantuan and titanic bloodbath of a game, I'm now coaxing my friend over this weekend so that I can sit couchside to Watch the game I just played. I mean, playing through it there were times I'd just stand still, watching the immense and serene destruction take place, but there was a limit to how long I could stand still without having to mash someone's face in with the Cestus or ripping souls out with the Claws, or electrifying something with the Nemesis Whip. But now...now I get to watch the game. I'm pumped.

Oh, and

Susan Arendt:
...but you'll have to take your hands off the Sixaxis to really appreciate the sheer spectacle of Kratos' bad mood.

People still use the Sixaxis? Don't they know about the Dualshock and it's rumbly goodness?

Susan Arendt:
Dead Space, Condemned and Silent Hill are all far scarier when you take on the role of observer with no direct control over your fate.

This is the one thing I personally disagree with. For me, games have been and will always be much more scary than movies.

In a game, you are the one who has to walk down the dark hallway with (or without) a flashlight and a gun. You are the one who has to slowly open the creaky door. You are the one who has to scan every dark hiding place for scary things that want to hurt you. You are the one who has to quickly react when something jumps out at you, and you are the one who dies if you don't. In a movie, you're just watching somebody else do all these things and you're not the one who suffers the consequences.

Games add so much more tension to the experience by putting you (in)directly into it.

I can definitely see what you mean there, Ms. Arendt. I enjoyed playing the first two, sure, but the fighting drew my attention away from most of everything else. After playing God of War and watching my roomie play it, I can honestly say I'll probably watch someone else play the game before I decide whether or not to take a stab at this one,

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