I Hit It With My Axe: Episode Two: F*ck. A Medusa.

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Mr Ink 5000:

silversun101:

Mr Ink 5000:

silversun101:

Mr Ink 5000:
Just to let you know, ep 1 did nothing for me, just thought I'd nose at the comments at ep 2 to see if there was a change but there isn't. I wont b*tch about the show, I said what I had to say about it last week, just explaining why I'm here looking

I'd like to comment on your reality TV/documentary comment.
A documentary would normally explain the ins n outs of this world to the viewer with a voice over.
A "reality TV" show would be edited to tell a story. Reality TV show does get heavily edited to tell what ever story the producers think will interest the viewer.
So I don't think it falls into either of those categories.
Maybe action futage/game play footage would be a better title

Well I never said it was particularly good, just that this is more or less what it is. Or at least intended to be. This is a far cry from a well made production though I still find it interesting nonetheless. The amateur editing job keeps it from being called a proper documentation, and the lack of a cohesive story outside of "these are hot girls playing DnD" makes it not quite a reality show. So... honestly it leans more towards a glorified DnD advertisement. Action/gameplay footage show is a decent compromise.

Maybe if i was a D&D player I'd get alot more out of it.
To each there own, atleast some people like it. although the whole pornstar thing doesn't sit right with me, I think it cheapens it all a little, like all us geeks n gamers need is a pornstar to get our interest. I'm sure it's not meant that way though.

I like your avatar btw. who/what is it?

Yeah, I think the pornstar angle is pretty low-brow. Maybe a bit insulting? I'm not sure if their intention is to show what a wide and varied audience DnD actually has or just trying to get lonely nerds to watch by dangling boobies in from of their faces. As I stated earlier half of my gaming group is female so his angle doesn't have any big WOW factor for me.

Also, that's Nightcrawler.

Female D&D fans? are there many about?

i thought it was. that artworks great, wheres it from?

Two of them are/were girlfriends of other players in the group who became interested in the game themselves. Another is a long time veteran of role play games. I think she's been doing it since grade school.

And actually, I'm not really sure. I searched for a Nightcrawler avi and this is one of the ones that popped up so I took it. I feel sort of lame now for not knowing. Perhaps I'll research it.

AgentNein:

Nuke_em_05:
"*Pornstars* playing D&D" isn't any different than "*Accountants* playing D&D"

Just wanted to take a moment and respond to this. Yes there is a difference. The difference is in the subversion of stereotypes, and common thoughts on certain types of people. Just wanted to point that out, because that is what I (in particular) find at least somewhat interesting with this show.

Well I don't think accountants are known for a fondness of D&D either.

Deradang:

AgentNein:

Nuke_em_05:
"*Pornstars* playing D&D" isn't any different than "*Accountants* playing D&D"

Just wanted to take a moment and respond to this. Yes there is a difference. The difference is in the subversion of stereotypes, and common thoughts on certain types of people. Just wanted to point that out, because that is what I (in particular) find at least somewhat interesting with this show.

Well I don't think accountants are known for a fondness of D&D either.

They're not really known for it, but no one would be surprised to know an accountant might play D&D. In comparison, there tends to be a lot of unspoken assumptions about 1: D&D players (nerdy young males) and 2: porn stars. I'm sure a lot of people assume that those two things are oil and water.

One of the most interesting things about this whole thing is how they don't sexualize any of these folks. They're just playin' D&D. That's it. Well...I find it interesting anyway.

I'm not sure if this has been said since I don't really feel like reading 8 pages of comments if most of them are similar to most of what's on the first page.

To improve the quality of the show I'd say a second, static camera is needed. I'm not sure if your playing area allows for it but an angle that shows the whole table and everyones faces, including the DM, would help a lot to make it feel more coherent. Optimal would be three cameras. One wideshot of the table with everyone involved on screen and one on each side of the table filming the players on each side.

Some cuts were also way too fast. Leaving a beat for the viewer to take in what was just said (especially if it's something that's supposed to be funny) is necessary or it will feel disjointed.

Also, as it is now it's not really conveyed what's going on in the game, or at the very least it's hard to follow. Longer runtime and focusing more on the story of the game rather than only on the people playing the game would increase the interest of the viewer. Yes, seeing people play can be interesting, but if that's the only focus it'll quickly start to feel stale. Focusing on the games story and reaction shots on the players and out of game player comments interspersed throughout the video would make it much more watchable. The players will still be a big part of the focus and draw, but the staying power of the show should be the games story and the synergy of the group of players.

I like the idea and I'm going to keep watching. Hopefully as the show goes on you'll get a feel for how to structure it a bit better.

"I want know more about the political structure of the goblin city?"

"little is known about the goblin city." -DM

"Thanks . . ."

made me lol

cant remember the names as you can tell

mechanixis:

Hey, if the partially-shaved heads, black nails and tattoos do it for you, then power to you I suppose.

If it has a pulse then it is good enough for me. Besides that look was very popular back in Celtic times, it has just come out of style is all. Who knows what the look of the day will be in 200 years time?

All what you described adds up to a dirty girl. Which is a big bonus. Though I suppose seen as they are adult performers you can take it for granted that they are dirty, thereby making it a moot point.

Is it just me or are you also finding our conversation more interesting than the one they were having on the video?

Please stop this now I'm begging you !

I don't feel like watching a bunch of hookers make noise.

Daystar Clarion:

Distorted Stu:
Jesus CHRIST! That was boring :|

What? What was boring? Where am I? Is this the future? Are all reality TV shows dead and buried?
No?

Well that's disappointing. Wake me up in a 1000 years, hopefully during the Japanese mecha uprising.

It wont be the japanese the koreans have already got the mecha and are biding their time XD
But of course the Giant Rat apocolypse will happen first! (James herbert style!)

Wow there's a lot of hate for this...
Well I like it, I laughed three times out loud which was enough for me. More than game dogs ever did.
Keep it up :D

Megido:

De Ronneman:

Megido:

De Ronneman:
You edited the second I clicked "quote", so you get sent off with only a minor rant:

NO: I do not think all people who play D&D are nerds.
YES: I realise you don't play it alone.
YES: I am a gamer, and I do consider myself to be quite the nerd to be honest.
YES: I am a dipshit at times, but only on weekdays. On weekends I'm a loveable guy.
YES: I stereotyped, but only because it's easier to make a point with stereotypes. Please tell me I'm not the only one who feels somewhat insulted by the idea that we(the nerds, gamers and other social challenged people) should watch a series about adult actrices(and actors, but noone cares for them) who do nerdy(apologies) things, just because of their profession.

I genuinly feel insulted. Not by you(Megido), but more by the guy(it HAS to have been a guy) who decided to pick this show for the Escapist...

You make a good point. Maybe one of the reasons I dislike the show so much is that I feel the same way as you; insulted that it is supposed to (and apparently is much to my dismay) appeal to the "nerd" crowd.

I really wish stereotypes weren't true, but the fact that this boring show is supposedly very popular is kinda throwing that right in our faces. It has no merits beyond that it contains attractive women, yet, according to Archon, it has had the biggest opening of any show on the Escapist. I can only hope that's due to the shit storm it's causing, and not because lots of people actually like it.

We all know why there are stereotypes: they're usually founded on either TV or Newspapers. They usually have a core of truth, but as with all general statements, there are too many different people. 1 stereotype for 1 group isn't sufficient. Stereotypes are there because they're popular and immediatly recognisable. That's mainly TV's(and film's) fault.

The fact it's such a big opener is also easily explained with one question, the one burning in all our minds when we heared it was coming up:
"Are there boobs?"

Now the buzz is gone, the dustclouds waivered by the wind, we take a good long look over the battlefield, realising the giant army we just crushed was an anthill. We looked at it from a distance with binoculars. Little did we know, what we saw was unreal, a lie.
Now we've seen the bigger picture, gained insight on the series, and come to realise it is not a golden army of crotchless panties, but a puddle of piss without tits.

And about the whole "let's employ pornstars" thingy, are we suposed to know them? I, for one, am not a regular viewer of porn, which is to be said, only for laughs, but does ANYONE know them by name or something?

That's a pretty in depth analogy. I'm not really sure how to follow that up other than to say I hope you're correct. Here's what I'll do as far as the series goes: Apparently it's going to last at least five episodes, and somebody said that it picks up around episode five. I think I'll wait until episode 5 rolls around, and give the show it's last chance. If it isn't significantly better (ie. good,) then that's three strikes. Sound reasonable to you?

Sounds good, but it's kind of odd. I loved Doomsday Arcade and There Will Be Brawl from day one. ZP was an instant hit. UnSkipable has always been great, not always perfect, but good for a laugh.

If you're goal is to make a series work in 5 eps, you don't have a good show to start with...

But I know what you mean, a show has to find it's final form. You can't go for gold without trial and error, but when the entire subject of your show isn't even remotely good, then you're lost from the start...

Undercover:
What the hell do you guys want? Here's a thought, how about instead of bitching like a bunch of whiny fanboys you actually suggest how the show could be improved? This is a rare opportunity to actually HELP a production rather than just shit all over it, and none of you are taking advantage.

Every new show goes through some growing pains, and I'm not ready to give up on this one yet. Lighting: MUCH better. Pacing: Getting its stride. Editing: a lot tighter.

Zak et. al., you're not there yet, but you're getting the right idea.

I know I'm going to get flak for this like I always do when I disagree with the self-important geeks around here, but if I actually cared what any of them thought, I'd never speak my mind.

Unlike the majority of commenters, I know what its like to produce a show and edit video & its bloody HARD TO DO.

So let them feed their own egos by dumping on your ideas, if that's all they can bring to the table then too bad for them for their lack of imagination or creativity. Its a whole lot easier to tear something down than to try and help improve it.

Well, you do have a point there. Sincerely, I don't like this show. One bit. Worst of all, I can't even think of any ideas to make it more interesting so all I can do is bitch. Yeah, lighting and editing would improve it. But it would still be boring to watch 5 people play D&D. Even if they ARE porn stars.

AgentNein:

Deradang:

AgentNein:

Nuke_em_05:
"*Pornstars* playing D&D" isn't any different than "*Accountants* playing D&D"

Just wanted to take a moment and respond to this. Yes there is a difference. The difference is in the subversion of stereotypes, and common thoughts on certain types of people. Just wanted to point that out, because that is what I (in particular) find at least somewhat interesting with this show.

Well I don't think accountants are known for a fondness of D&D either.

They're not really known for it, but no one would be surprised to know an accountant might play D&D. In comparison, there tends to be a lot of unspoken assumptions about 1: D&D players (nerdy young males) and 2: porn stars. I'm sure a lot of people assume that those two things are oil and water.

One of the most interesting things about this whole thing is how they don't sexualize any of these folks. They're just playin' D&D. That's it. Well...I find it interesting anyway.

I would buy into the subervsion of stereotypes more if it all didn't seem to be forced on some level.

The underlined part of your post is exactly my point. You have the "hook" of "Pornstars Play D&D Too!", but if the content is the same as anyone else playing D&D... well... what's the point?

My point was more that "pornstars playing D&D" isn any different than "*any other profession* playing D&D", if all that it consists of is people playing regular D&D.

Like I said last time, "Dick-ish FPS friend crashes friends RPG" in Unforgotten Realms works better because they are juxtaposed, whereas everyone in this series is of similar background/attitude etc.

One "Reliable Source" column did it well with "War vet plays D&D" when the dad crashes the game, starts to play, and plays by his rules, killing his kid's character and leading a raid Vietnam-style adding an entertainment value of the juxtaposed types of people playing. Even then, it was only one issue of the column and not a whole series because that sort of novelty wears off very quickly.

This show is people of the same type of persona playing a game like normal.

If you like that, more power to you.

Nuke_em_05:
*snip*

I do have to admit, while I find this whole concept interesting, I don't know if my interest is sustainable over a series.

And speaking of the Reliable Source column, it seems (to me anyway) to be more concerned with reinforcing stereotypes than actually subverting any.

Fun times for me still :L

The most amusing part for me was when I left the site and searched on imdb for this title (just for fun) and instead found the following real titles:

If I See Randy Again, Do You Want Me to Hit Him with the Axe? (2006)
I Could Never Have Sex with Any Man Who Has So Little Regard for My Husband (1973)
Repeat 'I Stepped in S*** with My Flip Flop' (2009)

The worst thing about being a werewolf is when you go to take your 4 o'clock dump and you notice fingernails in your poo.

Milky_Fresh:
I don't feel like watching a bunch of hookers make noise.

then don't watch it... duh?

these types of comments are not constructive at all. If you don't like the show give a worthwhile comment on how you think they may change it or just quit watching it. Your juvenile comments are unnecessary.

As for the show, i don't think its bad, especially if your into that stuff. I personally have never played it, but i understand the idea and seen it played once or twice. I think the show is good as it brings a light on D&D and shows people, who may only have heard about the game, how its actually played.
Plus they seem like a fun group, i'll probably keep watching.

So yeah... improve the editing a little bit, and this could be worth watching. I'll probably stick around for the next episode or two to see if things pick up.

Seems like everyone is a little restrained so far. I don't know if it's just their playing style, but no one has spoken like they ARE their character except the dungeon master. Which, granted, is ASTOUNDINGLY geeky, but then we *are* watching a show about people playing D&D, so we're here for the geekiness.

craddoke:
Improvements from First Episode:
1) Camera is much steadier
2) Editing is much smoother
3) We see more role-playing

So, basically it covers most of my (minor) problems with the debut. Two things I would still like to see, though: (1) More game mechanics (an encounter with dice rolling); (2) Much longer episodes - the half-hour (or so) Penny Arcade DnD podcasts seem about right to me.

I'm pretty sure that if they addressed issue #2, it would take care of issue #1.

I would just like to thank you for alerting me of the presence of the |Penny Arcade DND podcasts. I admit I havd preconceptions of DND but I am strangely enjoying their podcasts, I skipped serious 1 by accident so when I've finished with series 2 I'll go back. I still have preconceptions but I like the podcasts. Thanks.

Hello there Escapist followers! My name is Kimberly Kane and I'm that chick from your porn collection and one of the recurring stars in I HIT IT WITH MY AXE. I thought I'd pop in and thank you for making our little program the top new show on the site. If anybody has a question for me I'm reading your comments, you can also write me directly here on the site or my blog (address in my profile)

Thanks for the support & keep watching!

Davrel:
EDIT: As for people saying: provide constructive criticism, I can only reply: If you polish a dog turd, all you have is a shiny dog turd.

I'd rather have a shiny turd then a filthy one. I'm not going to watch it, though. It didn't look promising from the start.

Ok, this is either a suggestion or a dire request. I can't decide which:

Action figures.

This show would be good if it had cool, funny people as the players and someone else made it. Sorry, just AXE this show to make way for something good .... like DOLOREAUS YAY!

I didn't like the first episode at all. I gave it a second chance.

I shouldn't have.

/shrug

Please, please, please kill this series!
Or gouge my eyes out, whatever is fastest!

Well played escapist, you have managed to successfully make me completely disrespect this website (and probably withhold any further Escapist Film Festival entries as a result). First Apocalypse lane; that took the promo for me to loose interest. Doraleus and Game Dogs each took half of their respective first episodes to turn me away. Im really sorry Dorian's Quest but you have lost me too. The first ep was brilliant, the second was good, and now its just slumping. And now this? This is terrible!! I've always found Doomsday Arcade too HURF DURF slapstic to enjoy, but I'm honestly considering watching it over the other utter DRIVEL that is now produced on this website.

'when did strippers and porn stars get so ugly..and boring?[/quote]

LOL so true are they actual pornstars because pornstars usually look good they just look like sum easy goth/rock/indie chicks

Triaed:
Please, please, please kill this series!
Or gouge my eyes out, whatever is fastest!

Considering all the communication required to drop a multiple person staff, you know what you must do.

*Casts Summon Knife*
*Hands knife to Triaed*

TangoZulu85:

Triaed:
Please, please, please kill this series!
Or gouge my eyes out, whatever is fastest!

Considering all the communication required to drop a multiple person staff, you know what you must do.

*Casts Summon Knife*
*Hands knife to Triaed*

I can't do it, I like my eyes too much. You do it TangoZulu, need to knock me out first. Oh wait, you don't have to knock me out, I just need to watch "I hit with my ax" (not "axe" as that is a verb, not a subject)

ZZZzzzz

I will say this about the show - they've managed to show Sasha Grey doing something that I don't find physically repulsive. I guess that's sort of an accomplishment.....

I think it needs to be longer, it is hard to know what's going on with a game like DnD in just 5 minutes.

I think the sound is pretty good though I can hear what people are saying witch is good when you got so many people around the table so good editing too.

Would like to see a fight and see how that get out of it or better yet a room were they got to figure out how to get out of it or some or some kind of problem they got to solve but let us see the entire thing so we can try to figure it out too at the same time.

Ad these people seem nice & I figure there already used of people watching them so why not something like a get together that we all can relate to? I don't care what they do at other times it just seems they got a few things in common and are friends so it's nice to see as long as politics are kept out of it, I hate politics. :)

Good times

I don't know if these suggestions will help this show, or formulate a different D&D show but...

-Length: The episodes do need to be longer. D&D is rather long (hell, it can be fucking infinite), so trying to cram it into a 5min episode is just pointless. PA does have the right idea with episodes at 30min or so. And although that may increase production time and the workload, if you're willing to commit (which I assume you are) then it won't matter. Plus, you can release it once a week or something, something that won't work you to death.
-Team chemistry: People who act and respond to one another can easily draw in an audience. It doesn't mean though that the people have to have similar likes or dislikes (one person could think that killing everything is the solution, whereas another would rather be diplomatic), but rather that they can enact/enforce those attributes without gamebreaking conflict. Gamebreaking means a standstill in gameplay, not arguing. Arguing is eventual and necessary in the growth of characters.
-Spontaneous: People who are creative and imaginative, quick thinkers, this allows the game to grow in unknown branches
-Presentation: I'm not saying that you need to dress up or decorate your room, but whichever why you choose to go, make sure it's enveloping. If you don't have a drawing of a room and just navigate by the pieces, then focus more on the player's dialogue. If the set is elaborate, then focus on it as well as the players.
-Cinematography: This ranges from still cameras, to zooming in/out, getting good shots of the people and the set pieces. Any and everything to do with a camera. We can't enjoy the show if we can't watch it.
-The DM: Without it, there's no story to begin with. Having involving stories helps the players and the people watching. Pull out all the stops, backstab your own players, kill one of them off and have the others try to revive them, trick them, etc. Even if they hate you for it, what're they gonna do? Maybe the DM exclusively offers one of the players advantages if they secretly backstabs their own team. This show's DM is...lacking, he doesn't seem into it or even trying (although he did do voice for the town).
-Interactivity: D&D is a highly malleable medium. Audience's could also be a part of the show, let viewers write their own little side quests that would take about 15-25min, have the community vote on it. Maybe the DM will let the audience in on something that'll happen, and the viewers could vote on different options that the story could take. It's a lot easier to watch a video when you're part of it's development.
-Entertainment: This doesn't necessarily mean comedy. Sure, we all like a good laugh, but if I was to watch people play D&D, I dunno. I'd place higher importance on the actual choices and adventures of the players (which is what the game's about) rather than tailoring it to always be funny (if the two overlap, great, but it shouldn't be a requirement). The main thing here is, IT CANNOT BE BORING. Now, no matter whatever ANYONE makes, someone will love it, and someone will hate it (so don't worry about trying to please everyone).
-Drama: Going back to Entertainment and Team chemistry. A player who argues with his teammates and goes off alone in a dungeon would provide intriguing drama. Will he get in trouble? If so, will the others help him? Could he find something they'd otherwise miss? Drama is the life force of any TV, web show, movie, novel, etc. However, drama shouldn't necessarily be enforced either, which leads to be bastardized creation of something like those "Big Brother" shows on MTV.

I hope I covered everything and helped.
I myself would like to see a web series about D&D. One that's NOT The Guild or PA's podcast (mainly because I can't enjoy D&D if I can't see what's going on. Part of the experience is the players, who you can't fucking see).
So here's hope for not only this show, but any who may follow.
(and yes, you all look like emo/goth kids, but that shouldn't effect my viewing pleasure and it doesn't)

mechanixis:
I really want to like this, guys, but it's shaping up to be "stupid, unattractive, and fairly self-important women squabble for five minutes, the show."

PayJ567:
No, no this show is not for me. I mean I stayed with game dogs and I'm mildly glad I did but I haven't actually watched a full episode of this... I just can't do it.

These are exactly my thoughts. Exactly.

I keep on trying to like this. However I am running out of ideas to defend it on.
Hallows'sEve, sums up what this show needs (emphasize the word needs!)

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