It's Time To Forgive George Lucas

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It's Time To Forgive George Lucas

It's time to stop hating George Lucas, gang.

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You know what? I never blamed him in the first place. There is nothing to forgive.

The next time I see Star Wars, it will be the remastered versions. Because it doesn't fucking matter.

"...if Greedo shooting first "ruined your life" then your life was in a pretty sorry place to begin with"

EXACTLY!

Hit the nail on the head with this article. I'll be e-mailing it to a bunch of my friends to read over. Doubt it will change there opinions but whatever, some people are just thick headed

To be honest, I never really had this problem, by the time I was old enough to appreciate the Star Wars films the prequels were just rolling out, so I don't really mind them, since I wasn't nostalgic about the original trilogy, same about Indiana Jones too.

Hell, I never watched all of Return of the Jedi until after the first prequel, I was poor so we only bought VHS tapes occasionally.

Confession.

I prefer the prequels.
There is nothing to forgive, George, if I want intelligent social comment from you, I'll watch Graffiti or THX. You've earned your stripes, and everyone likes a bit of fun.

I always blamed the advancement in technolgy for the flunk of the newest Star Wars films.

C.S. Lewis, in describing his gradual personal transition from staunch atheist to Christian philosopher (and author of the Narnia books) described his period of unbelief as a state of being "angry with God for not existing."

Ow Ow Ow, I don't know who that guy is but that comment made my brain owie, I'll have to read Page 2 some other time

I've gone over excessive hate against Lucas long ago and currently trying to stop hating on Twilight so much.

I think i'd rather spend my time obsessing over things i love and preach about the good words (and images, and sounds) than obsessing over things i hate.

That said, why don't you go and listen to some "The Human Equiation" by Ayreon while buying a bunch of Scott Pilgrim books before the movie releases and round out the evening with some Firefly or Summer Wars, an anime movie so good it comes close to Ghibli.

That would make a pretty awesome day...

Hm, good article. I am myself guilty at times of complaining too much about his dud Star Wars movies. I think what really did them in was the amount of hype/hope that surrounded the prequels, because almost every famous director has dud movies, yet we usually don't remember them for that. For that matter, even Lucas has dud films that no one rails at him for (Howard the Duck, anyone?).

I will always drink the Starwars koolaid. It does not matter what "it" is that is released I will be a fan. I have no idea why but I simply love it all.

Why do I have to forgive him? There's nothing to forgive. I actually liked the Star Wars Prequels and Indian Jones IV. *runs away before the flaming starts*

It doesn't matter who shot first, and the prequels were fine. Yet again, Movie Bob drives me up a wall.

I don't think the prequels were bad, just different. Me? I love the Clone Wars era.

...and that's about as much as I really need to say haha

I don't hate George Lucas because of the prequels or animated series.
I hate him because of the Star Wars Holiday Special, which is unforgivable!
Producing Howard the Duck doesn't help.

Distorted Stu:
I always blamed the advancement in technolgy for the flunk of the newest Star Wars films.

Yeah, same here.

People were used to seeing what it used to look like...and now it looks so much more...shinny. I know it put me off a little when I saw them.

Dont have a problem with the Star Wars prequels, but Indiana Jones IV... Way to rape a franchise mr. Lucas... Aliens? really?

No Forgiveness!
No Regret!
No Mercy!

Actually, I never understood the hatred of George Lucas. Sure, Anakin was an irritating little cunt in the Ep.1, But that's no reason to subject him to unending raeging.

slowpoke999:

C.S. Lewis, in describing his gradual personal transition from staunch atheist to Christian philosopher (and author of the Narnia books) described his period of unbelief as a state of being "angry with God for not existing."

Ow Ow Ow, I don't know who that guy is but that comment made my brain owie, I'll have to read Page 2 some other time

I think the theory there is that you can't be angry with God and not believe in Him at the same time. Or is it just the strangeness of the sentence that vortexed your brain?

OT: Sure I'll forgive the little scamp! But only if I get to tug on his magic beard for luck.

Very well-written as always, Bob. Of course, not mentioning Crystal Skull is kind of a cop-out, but there's really no way to defend that...

To be honest, I liked all the films more or less.

except epsiode 3, the writeing in episode 3 was too weak in my opinion.

episode 1 was really good in my opinion, and episode 2 gave us another Fett so no worries there.

I have far too many friends guilty of this. Honestly I never really resented him for what he's done wrong. As you said, he's done so much good its hard to condemn him. I do think, however, its time for him to relinquish the reins on Star Wars and allow the new generation of writers and creators to play with his toys like how comic book universes have always worked. People have been playing with Stan Lee's toys for 40 years now.

I saw the first Star Wars movies when I was five, them being the remastered VHS "Gold Box" thingy of the Original Trilogy, and I thought they were the shit (not a direct quote, of course). A year or two later, Phantom Menace was released and I loved that too. Star Wars has always been my favorite film series growing up and I've had absolutely no problem with any of them (Jar-Jar Binks' existence notwithstanding).

Honestly, my favorite is Return of the Jedi, which many people say is the worst of the Original trilogy. I've enjoyed every single Star Wars movie and will continue to do so, regardless of the Lucas hate.

The man is a genius and a prominent figure in my childhood. I've just never been able to understand the reason behind all the hate. Sure, the prequels weren't perfect, but he had massive expectations to live up to. It's all pointless fanboy rage. I may get my own fanboy card revoked for this, but I even thought the faster lightsaber duels were a needed change (especially considering the evolution of film making techniques as well as technology) given the large time period between the last of the Original Trilogy and The Phantom Menace.

Star Wars is the shit. No matter which movie you're talking about.
Darth Maul. 'Nuff said.

I think the prequels get more hate then they deserve. Sure episode 1 was crap but the second one was ok and the second half of episode 3 was really enjoyable in my opinion.

Never forgive, never forget.

Does this mean I can't enjoy that South Park episode with him and Spielberg anymore?

Eh, perhaps I'm too far outside the fandom of Star Wars in the first place to understand the hate or where exactly it comes from. To me they've always been okay movies (the originals anyway--what I saw of the prequels was just terrible), and nothing more. Basically, I nothing George Lucas...don't know if that's better than hating on him or not.

There's nothing too forgive. I liked the prequels for what they were and I'm a devoted Star Wars fan. While he could have made Anakin less of an emo, it's not bad. Move on, people.

Plus, did you notice that the guy in RedLetterMedia can't properly say "Protagonist"? Seriously? You can't say protagonist? It's like a 9th grade word. I didn't trust his review at all after that.

ghaldar:
I will always drink the Starwars koolaid. It does not matter what "it" is that is released I will be a fan. I have no idea why but I simply love it all.

Mainly this, the only thing that he has actually helped make that disappointed me was Indiana Jones IV.

George Lucas can be forgiven but the sycophants he surrounded himself with can't. As soon as GL mused idly about prequals his handlers should have said "You know which was the best Star Wars movie? Empire Strikes Back...probably because you had the least to do with it." Then gotten him to hire some young, hotshot writers and directors. He could do the producing because he has the money, supervise the effects since he is a geek at heart, but leave the moviemaking to the professionals.

He really needed someone to tell him AGAIN "You can write this shit George, but you sure as hell can't say it!"

Even the fan recut of phantom menace made it suck less.

George Lucas? I'm still bitching about how Brannon and Braga killed Star Trek.

Kidding aside, I liked the original trilogy at the time, and had some toys and books and other merch (but not any of the Kenner figures--I was a G.I. Joe kid). But I was never a hardcore fanboy. I disliked the prequels immensely, but because they were crappy movies overall, not because they'd betrayed a beloved franchise. Half the stuff we loved about Star Wars were the things fleshed out in the Expanded Universe (without Lucas' direct input) anyway--eg, Boba "Wilhelm Scream in the Sarlacc pit" Fett.

KillerMidget:

slowpoke999:

C.S. Lewis, in describing his gradual personal transition from staunch atheist to Christian philosopher (and author of the Narnia books) described his period of unbelief as a state of being "angry with God for not existing."

Ow Ow Ow, I don't know who that guy is but that comment made my brain owie, I'll have to read Page 2 some other time

I think the theory there is that you can't be angry with God and not believe in Him at the same time. Or is it just the strangeness of the sentence that vortexed your brain?

OT: Sure I'll forgive the little scamp! But only if I get to tug on his magic beard for luck.

The amount of stupidity from his comment hurt my brain, if he was angry with God, he failed at being an Athiest

I am not sure what inspired this article, probably a lot of this "hate" is Internet Bandwagon Syndrome and faux outrage, subtle mocking?

While not the awe inspiring events of the original three, it was nice to see some backstory on how the Emperor came to power etc etc. Not only that, but there was what, a 16 year gap between Episode VI and the 1st prequel? It's hard to say the prequels would of had the same effect given that our collective childhood innocence and fascinations had long since changed...

There's a hell of a lot more things to be outraged over, some people's priorties need a reality check.

Never hated Lucas so much, but damn, I'd like to wring the neck of the casting people for the prequels. Cause UGH.

I don't really hate Lucas. He can't help being a hack. I have a stronger dislike for the people around him who keep licking his balls and telling him he's a genius writer when he clearly isn't. Watch the preview material to Force Unleashed for an example of that.

No, like the article writer points out his greatest achievement is in pushing technology forward and that's not a bad thing.

Hasn't anyone even seen the Star Wars Holiday Special?

Great article. I agree, the man is a genious, a visioneer. What he isn't is a director. We can't all be everything. I'll continue to love Georgy and the Star Wars mythos. They're just that good :) But I'll make sure to stay away from The Clone Wars and the prequel :P

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