A Boy and His iPad

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Expie:

The Heik:

Trujkin:

The Heik:

Would anyone know if the iPad can work like a electronic sketchbook?

As a matter of fact there are some cool apps already available. I've got my eye on Autodesk's port of their Sketchbook Pro package. It looks pretty shiny.
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/sketchbook-pro/id364253478?mt=8

That alone may make me buy the iPad. Is it possible to use a stylus with it?

ZephrC:
... I think a tablet is capable of doing pretty much everything 90% of people use a computer for, and why get a laptop if a tablet is all you need...

By the same token, why buy a tablet when a piece of paper and a pencil are all you need?

Yes, but I smudge a lot, and a tablet doesn't physically fall apart after being used by me. Besides, if I had a sketchbook with that many pages available I would be carrying the equivalent of the whole Encyclopedia Britannica series in my backpack.

plants vs zombies in the ipad omg :D

Expie:

ZephrC:
... I think a tablet is capable of doing pretty much everything 90% of people use a computer for, and why get a laptop if a tablet is all you need...

By the same token, why buy a tablet when a piece of paper and a pencil are all you need?

Can a piece of paper and a pencil check Wikipedia now? Whoo technology!

I don't like the iPad, and I don't want a tablet, but they certainly do have a place. They're just now reaching the point where the technology can support what they need to be, so they're just now starting to become popular. As much as I dislike Apple, I do have to admit they know just when to jump on to the next new thing, and I don't believe this will be any different.

I don't even think this iPad is a good tablet. The lack of multitasking is especially strange. But that won't stop it from being a success.

IDBash:
When I say that you are a "fanboy" I mean that you have not given anything else a fair shot, and if you did, your glasses would be clear.

Thank you for your more objective and comprehensive reply. Unfortunately it's apparent to me that you're still only interested in telling me that I'm wrong, proven by your once again making broad and baseless assumptions as I've quoted here. You simply can't know this statement to be true, and I assure you it's not.

I would have enjoyed continuing this discourse otherwise.

I understand the appeal of Apple products, what with the stream-lined software meaning everything's there from the get-go. However, for those who like full control over what they're doing, and the ability to modify and play around with it, Windows is where its at for most people.

Apple products in general cost more for that stream-lined experience, and it's down to the individual consumer about whether that ease of use is worth the price-hike.

Very informative article. I'm a PCfag, so this doesn't really affect me, but it was interesting to see a user rating for the iPad.

humantis:
13 Glaring iPad Shortcomings

This.

I mean, if one wants to blow their money on the new and exciting thing, that's cool, but at least make said purchase worthwhile.

Trujkin:

IDBash:
When I say that you are a "fanboy" I mean that you have not given anything else a fair shot, and if you did, your glasses would be clear.

Thank you for your more objective and comprehensive reply. Unfortunately it's apparent to me that you're still only interested in telling me that I'm wrong, proven by your once again making broad and baseless assumptions as I've quoted here. You simply can't know this statement to be true, and I assure you it's not.

I would have enjoyed continuing this discourse otherwise.

It's always fun to see someone have their argument beaten dead by the cold metal crowbar of logic.

It was mentioned somewhere in this thread that the educational market lost interest in apple/mac.

That isn't entirely true. I live in Indiana and my friend's sister a year or so ago, got accepted and has been attending college at Ball State University. During the tour of the campus, the sister was told by the guide that Ball State was going to get rid of all their Windows PCs and fill all the labs with Macs, they said that Macs were easier to use and they were going to become an all Mac school. Granted, that is one of the worst decisions that a school can make, but Ball State was stupid enough to do it.

Because of that, my friend's sister came to the conclusion that she had to have a Mac, so she got, if I remember correctly, a Macbook or whatever they're called. One day during that summer before she started at Ball State, I had come over to that friends house for an XBox 360 game night. The sister was setting up her Macbook and she was having some problems. My friend told my to go help her, because he said that if he got a hold of it, it would probably explode or explode because he would throw it out the window. What the sister needed help with was installing some word-processing software. That stupid Mac asked me three times if I was sure that I wanted to install that software, after that I was pretty sure that I was about to do what my friend said he would do, throw it out the window. The design of that Mac was messed up. It took me at least 5 minutes to find the ejection button for the CD slot when it was done installing that software. The CD slot was on the right side of the Mac and the eject button was all the way over on the left, and it wasn't even labeled as the eject button, I think it had a tiny etching of a CD or something but it was so small I couldn't tell. I only hit it because it was one of the random buttons I pressed in my search for it.

Also, Mac users claim that Macs are so much more reliable than PCs, but in my friend's sister's second semester, at the end right before a big paper was due, not long after she finished the paper and before she could print it off and turn it in, the Mac just up an died, all I know is that one of the major components quit working and she had to get the whole Mac replaced.

I hope i become rich enough one day to want a ipad.

From all the articles i read, it's basically a large i-phone without flash or USB drives. I would rather buy a i-phone.

drizztmainsword:

Nimbus:

Woodsey:

Nimbus:

Woodsey:

Personally I lost interest when he told me they wanted to charge him 700 to put in another 4GB RAM when they built it for him.

Was that a typo? Surely it was. I mean, 70 is quite high for four gigs, right? Surely that's what you meant to type... RIGHT?!?

*Shaking Visibly* RIGHT!?!

Seven hundred my friend. Seven hundred.

Holy fucking Spaghetti-Monster... That's unbelievable! Since when is a 1000% markup acceptable?!

It's a well known fact that you always buy the smallest amount of RAM from Apple and upgrade it yourself. Apple's RAM prices have never made any sense.

some box department stores -- sorry, ALL box department stores -- will sell items like tv's, computers, ipods/mp3 players, etc below cost, then mark up the prices on accessories, and load you up with as many of them as they can to make up for lost profit. ever notice how a cord that looks like it'd only be worth about ten dollars costs 74?

my brother used to work for a store in thunder bay. one story he told me was about these cameras they had in stock. they listed for about 250 bucks, and they weren't selling. so one of the salesmen got an idea: he marked up the price to 549, and included the camera in his sales pitch. when people who liked the camera noticed the steep price, he'd give them "a deal" and "drop" the price to 250! they cleared the store pretty quick after that.

Until Apple shows me a real, practical reason to pay insane markups on hardware, I will put my money elsewhere.

I'm sorry, I just don't find being able to "brag" about owning part of the i-Franchise as an acceptable reason to dish out that sort of scratch; be it for a phone, a tablet computer, or an MP3 player.

I can't help but feel that this review is useless to us. Since you've already declared that you will not try any of the alternatives that have been around for many years, nor will you even attempt to really experience them, you've limited yourself to a product range of one and are now telling us that you like the fact there's finally actually something which may fit.

I hate popular things because they are popular too!

*pops his collar*

I have yet to see the point of the ipad, then again what I think about apple products is biased because from what I can see is that they are nothing but a brand people buy to look cool or edgy, I have yet to find an apple product that is priced well ether, they are all about twice the amount they should be.

I am not buying it. Either its my mobile or my laptop, mobile for when I just want to be reachable by people. Laptop when I want to bring my "office" around and have a proper sized screen that doesnt ruin my eyes even more, yes, but with full functionality for the same price.

I'm going to stick with my Zune and PC. Half the time something that popular people automatically love that's a piece of technology, will be a big screw over.

That look like it would break easilly with how thin it is.

Looks like the US bought so many iPads that the international release was delayed to make up for inventory shortages.

Fail indeed. /sarcasm

The Heik:

Expie:

The Heik:

Trujkin:

The Heik:

Would anyone know if the iPad can work like a electronic sketchbook?

As a matter of fact there are some cool apps already available. I've got my eye on Autodesk's port of their Sketchbook Pro package. It looks pretty shiny.
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/sketchbook-pro/id364253478?mt=8

That alone may make me buy the iPad. Is it possible to use a stylus with it?

ZephrC:
... I think a tablet is capable of doing pretty much everything 90% of people use a computer for, and why get a laptop if a tablet is all you need...

By the same token, why buy a tablet when a piece of paper and a pencil are all you need?

Yes, but I smudge a lot, and a tablet doesn't physically fall apart after being used by me. Besides, if I had a sketchbook with that many pages available I would be carrying the equivalent of the whole Encyclopedia Britannica series in my backpack.

Fair enough, if you absolutely need to carry every single picture you ever drew, the ipad is a choice. Hopefully it won't fall apart in use, as it costs $500+ (which would buy a shit load of sketchbooks the size of the EB...)

ZephrC:

Expie:

ZephrC:
... I think a tablet is capable of doing pretty much everything 90% of people use a computer for, and why get a laptop if a tablet is all you need...

By the same token, why buy a tablet when a piece of paper and a pencil are all you need?

Can a piece of paper and a pencil check Wikipedia now? Whoo technology!
[snip]

Who said anything about Wikipedia? We were discussing using an ipad as a sketchbook...

Expie:

ZephrC:

Expie:

ZephrC:
... I think a tablet is capable of doing pretty much everything 90% of people use a computer for, and why get a laptop if a tablet is all you need...

By the same token, why buy a tablet when a piece of paper and a pencil are all you need?

Can a piece of paper and a pencil check Wikipedia now? Whoo technology!
[snip]

Who said anything about Wikipedia? We were discussing using an ipad as a sketchbook...

Umm... you might have been, but I sure wasn't. That's not what this article or thread were about. Why would you assume I was discussing sketchbooks? You first responded to me, remember? I never once mentioned anything about sketchbooks.

I'm waiting for the version that has a camera, keyboard, is priced like it was made by ANYONE other than Apple, and does (useful) things that my laptop cannot already do.

ZephrC:

Expie:

ZephrC:

Expie:

ZephrC:
... I think a tablet is capable of doing pretty much everything 90% of people use a computer for, and why get a laptop if a tablet is all you need...

By the same token, why buy a tablet when a piece of paper and a pencil are all you need?

Can a piece of paper and a pencil check Wikipedia now? Whoo technology!
[snip]

Who said anything about Wikipedia? We were discussing using an ipad as a sketchbook...

Umm... you might have been, but I sure wasn't. That's not what this article or thread were about. Why would you assume I was discussing sketchbooks? You first responded to me, remember? I never once mentioned anything about sketchbooks.

Um, no, actually I was responding to The Heik's comment about "That (sketchpad apps) alone may make me buy the iPad.", and quoted you to support my comment. Perhaps you missed the part where I said "By the same token"; that is, why buy a laptop if a tablet is all you need, why buy an ipad solely on the basis of its sketch pad capabilities? In other words, why buy something if something else will do the same thing (as well, or not, as it turns out) for less? As you made note, if you want to sketch AND check wikipedia, a piece of paper and a pencil is not going to cut it.

Expie:
Um, no, actually I was responding to The Heik's comment about "That (sketchpad apps) alone may make me buy the iPad.", and quoted you to support my comment. Perhaps you missed the part where I said "By the same token"; that is, why buy a laptop if a tablet is all you need, why buy an ipad solely on the basis of its sketch pad capabilities? In other words, why buy something if something else will do the same thing (as well, or not, as it turns out) for less? As you made note, if you want to sketch AND check wikipedia, a piece of paper and a pencil is not going to cut it.

Alright, I skimmed the post and missed your point. Sorry. I'm still not sure why you ever even quoted me in the first place though.

ZephrC:

Expie:
Um, no, actually I was responding to The Heik's comment about "That (sketchpad apps) alone may make me buy the iPad.", and quoted you to support my comment. Perhaps you missed the part where I said "By the same token"; that is, why buy a laptop if a tablet is all you need, why buy an ipad solely on the basis of its sketch pad capabilities? In other words, why buy something if something else will do the same thing (as well, or not, as it turns out) for less? As you made note, if you want to sketch AND check wikipedia, a piece of paper and a pencil is not going to cut it.

Alright, I skimmed the post and missed your point. Sorry. I'm still not sure why you ever even quoted me in the first place though.

I was agreeing with the sentiment you expressed. I know, I know, agreement on teh netz, hard to believe huh?

Woodsey:
Seven hundred my friend. Seven hundred.

I'm curious: since macs use the same kind of memory modules as most PCs, why didn't you just purchase 4 additional GB from ANY computer store/digital store for $50-$80, and install them yerself? Doing this on my first-gen MacBook Pro was indeed a hassle, but the new macs feature a slide-out tray that makes the whole operation take less than a minute. Literally, since I've done it time and time again. Slide out the tray, put (yep, put, not push) them in place, slide in.

Back on topic: I am in no way an iPad fan. I must have been one of the more aggressive naysayers. And when my friend dropped one of the first imported iPads in Sweden into my lap a few days after the US launch, I found most of my suspicions confirmed: it is merely a big iPhone/Droid/[insert yer choice of modern smartphone here].

[Marketing-wise, it is a brilliant but depressing move: the iPad really isn't for techies and nerds. It is for the common people (common, as in my 65-year old mother, who now wants one, not common nerds, or even the people in the periphery, such as journalists who rely on tech, but only learn the basics for their work, which is a surprisingly common category), who have four basic digital needs: surf, read, listen to music, and watch videos (with the possible addition of social communication and chatting), and that is where it will succeed. And succeed it has. Brilliant, Apple, and fogging depressing. Divide the computer world, will ya?]

However, the ONE thing that did surprise me, was the touchtyping. I could literally type faster on the iPad than on my keyboard. And I am probably, say... quite a bit above *nerd* average in typing speed, without being phenomenal, thanks to having written on computers for 20 years, as for 10 years as a (speed)writer/journalist.

This is not a hyperbole: my iPad writing speed was up 20% from any keyboard I would type on, propelling me past most of my hardcore techie friends, who often type uncommonly fast, even for nerds.

So, an iPad naysayer I am still. But I am strongly considering keeping this iPad, just for the added speed advantages of producing articles at an (for me) amazing rate, something that would greatly benefit my journalistic career.

But perhaps I am just a deviation. I actually like typing on on-screen keyboards on smartphones, having written a few tightly deadlined 1000+ word articles directly on smartphones, even enjoying myself in the process (though I wish I could come anywhere near this fella: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNcTE5WJGdw&feature=player_embedded).

But if any of the truly amazing speed-typers would experience the same speed increase with the iPad, we might see one of the first hardcore, professional tech use of this device.

Ayjona:

Woodsey:
Seven hundred my friend. Seven hundred.

I'm curious: since macs use the same kind of memory modules as most PCs, why didn't you just purchase 4 additional GB from ANY computer store/digital store for $50-$80, and install them yerself? Doing this on my first-gen MacBook Pro was indeed a hassle, but the new macs feature a slide-out tray that makes the whole operation take less than a minute. Literally, since I've done it time and time again. Slide out the tray, put (yep, put, not push) them in place, slide in.

Back on topic: I am in no way an iPad fan. I must have been one of the more aggressive naysayers. And when my friend dropped one of the first imported iPads in Sweden on my lap a few days after the US launch, I found most of my suspicions confirmed: it is merely a big iPhone/Droid/[insert yer choice of modern smartphone here].

[Marketing-wise, it is a brilliant but depressing move: the iPad really isn't for techies and nerds. It is for the common people, who have four basic digital needs: surf, read, listen to music, and watch videos (with the possible addition of social communication and chatting), and that is where it will succeed. And succeed it has. Brilliant, Apple, and fogging depressing. Divide the computer world, will ya?]

However, the ONE thing that did surprise me, was the touchtyping. I could literally type faster on the iPad than on my keyboard. And I am probably, say... quite a bit above *nerd* average in typing speed, without being phenomenal, thanks to having written on computers for 20 years, as for 10 years as a (speed)writer/journalist.

This is not a hyperbole: my iPad writing speed was up 20% from any keyboard I would type on, propelling me past most of my hardcore techie friends, who often type uncommonly fast, even for nerds.

So, an iPad naysayer I am still. But I am strongly considering keeping this iPad, just for the added speed advantages of producing articles at an (for me) amazing rate, something that would greatly benefit my journalistic career.

But perhaps I am just a deviation. I actually like typing on on-screen keyboards on smartphones, having written a few tightly deadlined 1000+ word articles directly on smartphones, even enjoying myself in the process (though I wish I could come anywhere near this fella: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNcTE5WJGdw&feature=player_embedded).

But if any of the truly amazing speed-typers would experience the same speed increase with the iPad, we might see one of the first hardcore, professional tech use of this device.

It was my Dad, not me (so I haven't read anything you've said, no offence). And it was just what they offered on a pre-install, he didn't accept the "offer".

Woodsey:
It was my Dad, not me (so I haven't read anything you've said, no offence). And it was just what they offered on a pre-install, he didn't accept the "offer".

Ah, sorry, missed out on that part. If you are heavily into writing, the "Back on topic:" part above might be of interest (most of my posts concerns the iPad). Otherwise, don't bother reading my wall of text ;-)

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