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The custom tiles kinda seem like the Something Awful premium upgrades. I don't post nearly enough to care about the words under my name. High-res videos are fancy, but current resolutions are good enough for me. The only series that would objectively benefit from higher resolution would be Unskippable, the Stormrise video specifically with the itty-bitty text.

Are swear words allowed in titles? Would one be allowed to identify oneself as a "Bad Motherfucker"?

It would be incredibly hilarious if the so-called "walled garden" caused a caste split that generated immense hostility between the Pubs and the Plebs, culminating in a forum war so intense that the insane amount of flaming fried the Escapist servers and burned up the souls of every user online on what will come to be known as Judgment Day. Well, it'd be hilarious to me.

Exactly what Nomad said. Seriously, Russ, I respect you, I respect the staff.. But come on. If you're going to promote your paid membership service, at least do it with some common courtesy. Treat the people who are considering giving you their money some respect. A little counts. The way the staff have been "promoting" this just looks off. I donated to this sort of access thing before. It turned into more of a paid FRIENDSHIP. "If you give us money, we'll be your friend and we'll only listen to you for any support questions."

Hate to mention it again, but LRR doesn't do that. Runners don't get special treatment. Yes, they're in a pretty sweet gang and all, with their peeps and it's all cool, g.. But y'know, they still respect and honour their other fans messages. Hell, Paul's helped me out with some HTML advice for my uni assignment. Jer, Graham and I have had some deep discussions about JRPG's. Tally and I discuss crafty stuff. I'm not a Runner (and I don't think I'm likely to be, the operations to do with art and such aren't my strongpoints), but that doesn't matter.

Honestly, I'd be much more inclined to buy the product if you don't cram it down people's throats that we're idiots if we don't.

TylerBaumbarger:
I'm sure as hell not doing this, mostly because I'm not an especially active member over here, but partly because it seems like profiteering with some of the recent moves on the Escapist and comes across as downright insulting to be asked to pay for quality and full RSS. At least to me.

But I can predict a big problem: Bannings.

I've glanced at users getting banned for rather small infractions. But if they're paying for a service and their account is banned from access, that's a pretty big liability train you're standing in front of. Sure, the users could not be douches, but asking someone on an internet forum to not be a douche is like asking the sun not to rise.

That is a fair point. Are there at least some terms and conditions associated with the forums? Because I really, really don't want this place to become Xbox Live.

As for the subscription, I think I'll pass. Partly because my ststus as a 17-year-old without a credit card renders me unable to pay, and partly because I don't really care about HD videos anyway. I came for Yahtzee, stayed for the News Feed.

I'm not too sure about custom titles either, to be honest. Now that they've become common, they're not valuable anymore. And for the people whose badassery earned them one (Nuke, Decoy and Gigantor for example), I could understand if they feel a little shafted.

Also, as a sideneote: $5 that this is the reason Root lost his Time Lord title.

Nomad:

Russ Pitts:

D_987:
I'm certainly not going to pay to use a website...however a few things irritate me about this service:

A custom title of your choice: We've only given out a handful of custom titles over the years, but you can claim a unique title of your own (within reason, of course). We'll even throw in a special badge for good measure.

This is the section that irritates me - really, you're now selling custom titles - making those titles earnt through winning contests or posting a lot completely pointless...I wouldn't pay just on principal...

Audience panel membership: Let our content team know which direction you think they should go by participating in opinion surveys and focus groups.

Wasn't there a user group created for this very purpose that was disbanded? Was it purposefully disbanded to make way for this paid membership group - if not, why was it disbanded if you're simply going to do the same thing?

Not to be a jerk here or anything, but I have to wonder why you're asking us questions about something you've already told us in no uncertain terms you won't be bothering to support? You're not giving me much incentive here to answer your questions, dude.

I was really on the fence about this. On one hand, I'm wary about subscriptions by principle, but on the other hand, I really like the escapist. I even went as far as opening up the subscription window to register - but in the end, I backed out. It's not that I don't feel the sum is too much of a fortune for the features being offered, or that I don't want to support the website. It's the way the whole thing was presented, it honestly makes me feel uneasy. As I read through this thread, I became increasingly more wary about the subscription as I read the replies of the staff members - especially in combination with the parts of the initial offer that some people have commented on already (the "walled garden" stuff and whatnot)... And this post is what finally made me back off completely.

Now, apparently, your new business model is to offer support only to those who toss you money. Sure, it's an economically sound policy - but it makes you seem cold, distant and unpersonal. It makes you look like robots. It makes you look like EA. You shouldn't need an incentive (read: wad of cash) in order to spend 20 seconds answering perfectly valid questions from loyal visitors. You already spent an equal amount of time saying you're not going to answer the questions, which means you can't play the "our time is valuable"-card either.

It just signals that people who aren't subscribers are henceforth considered second-class citizens - like someone said a few pages back, in six months anyone without the proper badge will be scoffed at and ignored by all the cool kids who payed up.

I don't know about this whole thing. The idea itself is, while not my favourite idea of all time, not all bad. The way it's presented, and the general attitude behind it, is what puts me off.

I can tell you that in no uncertain terms, the emphasis here in the office was that we would continue to be doing everything we do for the vast majority of people on the site who don't join the Publisher's Club. That was the message from the top, and that's what we're going to be doing.

This just lets us go above and beyond.

Huh.. $10 USD is $10.78 AUD.. I guess I can let 78c slide. See you on the other side, I guess?

I keep getting this horrible feeling that those of us who don't sign up are going to be treated as akin to pirates.

I'm not sure how I feel about this. I want to join, and I guess I love the escapist, but I also have no way to subscribe, unless you take cash.

To be honist it's Amazon thats holding me back, My dad has a Paypal account he allows me to use (As I have no need for one myself) but I don't know if he will let this fly. Yeah I'm one of those crazy kids who do what their parents ask.

YAR YE SKURVY DOG, WALK YE PLANK! I mean.. Um... No! No that won't happen at all!

Also.. I'm a Publisher Club member! O: Oh snap.. I actually did it o.o

So yeah, I can end if I wish to before the instant billing in a year's time, right..?

Hileict:
YAR YE SKURVY DOG, WALK YE PLANK! I mean.. Um... No! No that won't happen at all!

Also.. I'm a Publisher Club member! O: Oh snap.. I actually did it o.o

So yeah, I can end if I wish to before the instant billing in a year's time, right..?

Yes - it was stated that you can unsubscribe at any time, and you will continue to have access through the end of your paid period regardless.

-m

Matt_LRR:
Yes - it was stated that you can unsubscribe at any time, and you will continue to have access through the end of your paid period regardless.

-m

Understood, thanks Matt! Let's see how this whole shtick works out.. Hopefully better than my last experience with this sort of thing.. Just.. Escapist Staff, don't start acting like super-celebrities, ignoring people who AREN'T Publisher's Club members. Benefits are benefits, but don't treat anyone who happened to not subscribe like shit. That should be the same to PC members too. Common courtesy, kthx?

My other question.. Who do I ask to see if I can get a username change? This is one hell of an old name. Might see if I can get a change on the LRR boards too..

Something Awful makes a fortune just by charging people to use an internet forum. Then again Something Awful quickly became the second greatest cess pitt on the internet second only to it's own horrific offspring.

I'll be watching this closely, if there's enough content and features to warrant my dolleros then great. If not then that's okay too. At least the option is there for people who want HD videos and whatnot.

That being said, it's totally bogus that my awesome custom titled, paid for with about 20 minutes of sweat, sweat and sweat is being made redundant by dudes paying $20bucks to call themselves "AWESOMEASAURUS"
I should get a glittery title or something. Something to help ease the pain.

I would do this if I had the cash, but being a university student, I don't.

The only thing that irks me about not being able to do this (aside from seeing all the awesome titles people are making for themselves) is the thing about a private area of the forum for members only.

Feels like I'm being segregated from the community for being poor.

At first i was very dismissive, thinking it was another good site gone bad by offering 'Premium' content but after reading through this, the prospect of all those benefits for less than £10 for the year is actually quite enticing.

That said, ad-free browsing - not exactly difficult when you have ABP installed :p

Now to think of a title...

Well, typically I just hang in the background and let the more outgoing sorts grab the glory, but heck... it's the Escapist. I suppose I can pony up.

Do you see what I did there? "Pony" up? Eh? Eh? Come on, people, work with me here. Is this thing on?

So how do I set this custom title?

I signed up, not for the benefits because they look rather blah tbh, but to support the escapist, $11AUD is pretty cheap for a year, and hey, you guys do good work, don't care for all the articles or video series (personally can't stand the new porn star thing) you have, but you who say they love every aspect of any publication, but on the whole, it's a great site, and well worth supporting.

Hmmm, very interesting, I am tempted to get this though I'm cheap as hell. I'll definitely consider subscribing to this, but I'm really just content with the way things are now.

Though that badge sure does look shiny....

Hileict:

Matt_LRR:
Yes - it was stated that you can unsubscribe at any time, and you will continue to have access through the end of your paid period regardless.

-m

Understood, thanks Matt! Let's see how this whole shtick works out.. Hopefully better than my last experience with this sort of thing.. Just.. Escapist Staff, don't start acting like super-celebrities, ignoring people who AREN'T Publisher's Club members. Benefits are benefits, but don't treat anyone who happened to not subscribe like shit. That should be the same to PC members too. Common courtesy, kthx?

I find it hard to believe that anyone who's been around this site, and has seen the staff interact with the community, would even be asking such a question. We interact with y'all now, when you aren't paying us a dime. What, we're suddenly going to stop that because some folks pony up $20 and some don't?

Lemme tell you who I ignore: Jerks. The willfully ignorant. People who are cruel for the sake of alleviating a few seconds' worth of boredom. Asshats. And people who watch Jersey Shore.

Sorry, but I just can't abide that show.

Point is, while I certainly hope people choose to support The Escapist so that we can keep the lights on, that's not going to be a determining factor in how I treat someone. People have plenty of perfectly valid reasons for not joining the Pub Club, and if I didn't respect that, then I'd be the jerk.

Question:

Just for clarification, will we be able to still watch videos on the site at a lower quality if we don't sign up for the Publisher's Club?

And are you planning on increasing the number of ads on the site in the near future?

Any more information about this retail store?

JWAN:
If you get a papal option Ill consider it...

You mean, like...for the Pope? ;)

(Sorry, I know it was just a simple typo, but it was such a darned funny one, I had to say something.)

Unfortunately guys, When i saw the PM a little part of me Died, and ive strongly considered jumping ship before things turn nasty. When i first read the PM i thought "They're going to charge for forums now...", but then i read on.

Im tempted to leave, The only thing that is stopping me is my love of the community here. Why should i part from my hard earned cash, to get insider info on a company that doesnt seem to have much to do with, or even care about, our Forum community. I mean even though most of the forum community seem to hate MM, They still go ahead - Because they want to run a business - Which is understandable. Granted, The forum Mods & Stuff are nice people, and they arrange Escapism days, But the people sat in the offices in the Esc HQ, what do they make...Oh yeah...Game Dogs.

I dont mean to sound like a Skeptic here, But with the influx of new members (hell, After the Valve vs Zynga fiasco, Imagine the advertising revenue they got from those hits, Must've been like christmas) & site popularity, Asking the site to pay for a forum that they dont really need just seems a tad Cheeky, If not a little bit cheap.

Unfortunately PM's like we got just seemed to add to the fire of "This place is going to be bought out by IGN" - Many places have become popular, Bought out by IGN, Fleeced & Marketed to the Hilt - Then left a souless hulk of what it once was...Its a shame the process is probably going to begin soon here.

The Thing is, the way i feel is a "Them And Us" Situation now, The forum community, Which probably gives a proportion of the revenue via the advertising & Site traffic to the Escapist, And the Suits, Who want to make as much money as they can from the site.

My question to the Escapist faculty is why Should we part with our hard earned money? ZP is fine as it is, And we all seem to pay our ways be looking at the ads all over the site. (even the evony ones, Oh look, More boobs...)

I know the escapist is a business, But this just feels cheap/greedy to me.

Oh I guess I can spare $10. Since I'll never get down to Australia to drink from Yahtzee's bar, I might as well support him this way, and all the other fine works on this site as well. Plus I've been here two years for free, I can give you guys that.

But I too question the contest thing. I've tried before but due to my Canadianishness, I've never been able to enter. So what's the point of that? Are you guys going to be able to expand that to your neighbors from the North, or do I have to start yelling at Obama over trivial matters again?Thinks he can take my basketball....

Susan Arendt:

JWAN:
If you get a papal option Ill consider it...

You mean, like...for the Pope? ;)

I'm sure there is a joke to be had involving the vaticans current troubles and the pope using this site, but I can't see one.

Will any member be able to view the new gate forums but not post? I'd like to see them before even considering this. the main reason I stopped posting regularly was because I didn't like the threads that were being posted, I don't want to join up just to find that the gated forums still has crap like, "why all the hate on Christians?" or whatever equivalent you like to replace that with.

EDIT: also, a list of premium member might be nice, just saying.

Just to be clear, I have to ask if I'm reading this right.

This is a subscription; an automatic payment which occurs every 12 months? Without manual or any other form of authorisation beyond the initial payment?

It doesn't come and ask us every 12 months "Are you happy to pay us?"

I'm intensely wary of -anything- which features automated payments, so I'd appreciate the clarification.

Oh, and if I give you guys money, can I stop people from using those goddamn .gif avatars which bug me as I'm trying to read? >_>

Unrelated: Also, Susan, question. You seem to write on the forums with a bit of an accent. Some of the words you use. And yet, it doesn't seem to come across in your video supplements or anywhere where I hear you speak. Are you aware of this? Is it on purpose? I'm curious ^^

Susan Arendt:

JWAN:
If you get a papal option Ill consider it...

You mean, like...for the Pope? ;)

(Sorry, I know it was just a simple typo, but it was such a darned funny one, I had to say something.)

Yes,
Go in peace my child.
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This is a huge post, sorry, but I'm trying to answer whatever questions I can before the wife catches me working at night ;)

sms_117b:
The auto competetion entry, firstly being from the UK would I still be elegible as I'm not for most competitions the site runs and being automaticaly entered would me actually entering myself give me a second chance to win? I'm not hugely fussed, I'm just curious as it's a selling point.

Only for the ones that you'd otherwise be eligible for. We can't change the laws, unfortunately.

sms_117b:
Will video downloads be playable on BlackBerrys?

I don't know - technically any phone identified as a smartphone should be able to try, but I don't know if BlackBerrys can play these videos. It might even depend on the version you have. I'll check around the office tomorrow to see if anyone has one that we can test on. We tested on several iPhones, an iPad, a Droid, and a Palm Pre (and my Zune HD, but that unfortunately doesn't work :P)

D_987:
Really, you're now selling custom titles - making those titles earned through winning contests or posting a lot completely pointless...

Custom titles has been one of the most requested features from people on the site, second only to video podcasts. We did the code to add them in a while back, but there is a very high potential for abuse, and we don't want to have to moderate them constantly. People that subscribe are incredibly less likely to set their titles to something inappropriate, so it acts as a built-in filter.

People with special titles (from contests or otherwise) get both a custom title and the one that's set. These are pretty rare, so you will mostly only see it on staff.

Honestly, I don't think that it counts as one of the major features, but it's a nice little perk, and we wanted to throw in as many things as we could. Same as the badge.

D_987:
Wasn't there a user group created for this very purpose that was disbanded? Was it purposefully disbanded to make way for this paid membership group - if not, why was it disbanded if you're simply going to do the same thing?

It was disbanded because it wasn't going to work well in that format, so we killed the idea at that time. We still liked the original concept though, so we brought it back for this - it'll function differently though. Like the titles, this is also a matter of volume - we don't expect the thousands and thousands of people we have on the forums to all join, so slotting this into the member program means we have less traffic to handle in there.

ddq5:
Are swear words allowed in titles? Would one be allowed to identify oneself as a "Bad Motherfucker"?

Nope, standard common sense rules apply.

Lord Krunk:
That is a fair point. Are there at least some terms and conditions associated with the forums?

All the same rules apply to everyone. A clarification of the forum guidelines is in the works, but it's completely unrelated to this.

Nerf Ninja:
I keep getting this horrible feeling that those of us who don't sign up are going to be treated as akin to pirates.

We'd never treat a ninja like a pirate. That's just wrong.

Chicago Ted:
Just for clarification, will we be able to still watch videos on the site at a lower quality if we don't sign up for the Publisher's Club?

Not a lower quality, at the same quality you've been seeing them at since we upgraded them late last year. We aren't changing anything for non-members.

Chicago Ted:
And are you planning on increasing the number of ads on the site in the near future?

Nope.

Insanum:
The forum community, Which probably gives a proportion of the revenue via the advertising & Site traffic to the Escapist, And the Suits, Who want to make as much money as they can from the site.

Here's something you may not know. Forum traffic is, in ad terms, completely worthless. It's a tiny percentage of our total site visitors that view lots of pages but never click on ads. Nobody wants to advertise in them. The forums are also the heaviest load on our servers, and require a dedicated employee and several very gracious volunteer moderators to even attempt to keep in line. As a business, we'd be better off not having most of our forums at all.

I'll leave it to you to decide why the "suits," every one of which who is a long-time dedicated gamer and has written articles about gaming for our site, keep the forums around. Frankly, as one of them, I find your insinuation pretty offensive.

Insanum:
My question to the Escapist faculty is why Should we part with our hard earned money?

Here's the thing: As an ad-supported business, there are certain things we can and can't reasonably do. The membership program is a way to do two different things. First, it's a way for people who want to support the site but not see ads to support us and what we do directly.

Second, it's a way for us to add features that being ad-supported doesn't allow us to do. For example, we couldn't afford the bandwidth to serve the high quality video to everyone. Video podcasts mean people don't need to come to the site or see ads to see the videos. Full-content RSS feeds also keep people away from the site and ads.

If you don't mind seeing the ads, and none of the features sound like something you'd use, then by all means take a pass on this. I personally think that when you add everything up it's a nice set of features, but it's definitely not for everyone.

Virgil:
Snip

....Holy internets, thank you!

Seriously, that's the kind of post I've been really waiting for. Actual honest assistance and not blatantly insinuating and insulting people to sign up (the first few pages were practically filled with staff members adding subliminal and often demanding "Join usssss" comments. You, however.. You gain much win. Your clarification completely justifies why I finally paid the money. Good job, sir! \o/

Well, if my title cannot be Bad Motherfucker, I'm afraid I'll have to settle with being a pleb and not a pub. Unless I came across an equally awesome title and an extra $10. It'd have to be pretty incredible though.

Either way, I understand the limitation. I can only imagine what sorts of foul titles could be thought up

ddq5:
Well, if my title cannot be Bad Motherfucker, I'm afraid I'll have to settle with being a pleb and not a pub. Unless I came across an equally awesome title and an extra $10. It'd have to be pretty incredible though.

Either way, I understand the limitation. I can only imagine what sorts of foul titles could be thought up

Personally, I think you're already set with "Beat Writer".. In some states and provinces.

ddq5:
Well, if my title cannot be Bad Motherfucker, I'm afraid I'll have to settle with being a pleb and not a pub. Unless I came across an equally awesome title and an extra $10. It'd have to be pretty incredible though.

Either way, I understand the limitation. I can only imagine what sorts of foul titles could be thought up

"Bad Mother-shut-yo-mouth"?

Whats $20 in GBP?

'Those that are classy enough'?

I'm resisting the urge to tear up in rage at the derision in that comment, and hoping against hope that it is meant with satirical intent, because otherwise I could be in trouble within my next post.

Beyond that, no comment, I've stated my anti-Publisher message enough for one day.

Would "West Coast Mother-Loving G" be appropriate? Or it too long? Or too much of a LRR reference? (Edit: LRReference?)
At least I can still have the wallet.

I did it, as I support this site and hate mother fucking ads. Thanks for the option to make them go away Escapist team!

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